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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I lost half of my crypto amount! what to do? on: August 22, 2018, 07:41:39 AM
Just hold your crypto though we know that 50% of your fiat money is already losing if you will going to trade that crypto meaning that is a huge loss especially if you had invested all of your money. Do not worry the ETF will be approved soon since the cryptocurrency system is already running and there is no way that they will going to disapprove this system especially if they will see how huge the marketcap volume in cryptocurrency especially bitcoin.
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who will benefit the most from bitcoin/cryptocurrency? on: August 22, 2018, 06:55:25 AM
The investors itself will going to benefit the most here in cryptocurrency system. However, there are also systems here in cryptocurrency that benefited also cryptocurrency like those local exchanges, mining bitcoins, and other projects that utilizes cryptocurrency.
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44  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can We Finally Call This the DEATH of Bitcoin?!? on: August 21, 2018, 01:54:53 PM
No of course i have seen so many threads regarding how bitcoin market price moves with the graph presentation and basically major market price fall down is one of it. So we need also to consider that this time is another huge market price fluctuation. This is the good time to invest instead while market price is low the possibility to get huge profit is high.
45  Economy / Economics / Re: Germany recognized the bitcoin on: August 21, 2018, 04:33:49 AM
I believe that way back before german people had already accepted and acknowledge bitcoin or cryptocurrency. In fact there are many projects that german people had join in and as evidence you can see on the project's telegram channel that there are many german people out there. Anyway, bitcoin investment is not about having your nationality because bitcoin is for all except for those countries who ban cryptocurrency like having a abusive use by doing an illegal transactions using cryptocurrency.
46  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Have anyone used this AI trading platform? Is it legit? on: August 21, 2018, 03:05:30 AM
Be very weary of things such as these. When in doubt either don't risk it at all, or check the forums for people and other posts on here talking about it. %95 of people and new businesses creating something that affects the Bitcoin community, will usually create their own announcement thread here to gain initial publicity and to answer questions. Never trust sites claiming things like this site does. Ponzi's are too common nowadays....

A good extension/add-on for your browser is MetaCert. It helps with Phishing and (some) scam/ponzi sites. Their database is still growing, but it is very handy to have if you're worried about phishing and other maleficent deeds.

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Yeah i strongly agree with this one. Never trust people that has a good offer to you that sounds like good to hear but in the end you will end up get phished out. Just do some research first and besides if you like to do trading do not get an AI for you. It may be a good idea to keep away from the likes of this and you should not give a chance that you will going to regret it in the near future. If i were him i will just handle myself doing trading cryptocurrency.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I lost over 80k because i sold too early (newbie mistake) on: August 20, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
A while ago i went all in ZClassic and bought about 365 Coins when the price was about 2$ per coin, but i decided to sell a couple of days after.
Two weeks later zclassic mooned and i could make about 80k now.

i learned my lesson in the hard way..
Wow that is a great lost over your money. Anyway you can still recover that one just keep on investing cryptocurrency. Quitters never win and winners never quit is the phrase that will perfectly fits you. As we all know that market price for market for cryptocurrency is not that stable. No matter how market price drop you take advantage on it just always check market price for crypto and then try to evaluate on what to do. I had this strategy and made me recover also my loss. Just do not quit on this kind of investment.
48  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When you think of currency what will come to your mind? on: August 20, 2018, 06:34:36 AM
To answer your topic question, I still think of USD, PHP, GDP, and other fiat currencies as money. Simply because fiat money is still the widely used currency worldwide. Still have huge hopes for BTC though.

Also, it's funny how we're getting so much positive news and adoption this year, but still the prices refuse to go up. If this was last year a single positive news pumps the prices by at least 10%.
Well sad to say that PHP, Dollars is not a crypto instead it is clearly a fiat for Philippines and Dollar the western countries fiat currency. However, when you say cryptocurrency definitely the most common thing that a person will come their mind is the BTC. BTC is the most known establish and the dominant crypto in the market. THere is no other crypto that works best and there are some altcoins also in the market that is worth to remember like ETH, XRP and BCH.
49  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we talk about Laszlos pizza but not the 1000 BTC poker tournament ? on: August 19, 2018, 05:05:45 AM
Wow that is a huge tournament over there having 1000 BTC as reward. This is something really good on using BTC instead of having dollars in the table or as a reward. As we all know that money nowadays is so  hot that is why in every casino the organizers will going to acknowledge using chips to avoid getting conflict because of the fiat money if being represented.
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Panic sellers, please head for the exit (and don't come back) on: August 19, 2018, 03:12:23 AM
No, it cannot be that way. Even if you say that all panic sellers will go exit there will be another huge market price fall down and you know of that because of the so many factors or reason for it. One of the mere reasons are the day traders. As we all know that day traders makes the bitcoin so volatile and they could really move the market price because there are so many day traders and they are having huge investments or even a team doing a day trading.
51  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin and altcoin on: August 18, 2018, 07:59:35 AM
Yeah it always does. Fluctuation to market price is invetibale. There is no guarantee that one you are holding will grow forever because it wont not happen especially for the altcoin which is dependent on bitcoin market price movement. Besides there is no way for us to find when will fluctuation happens especially if you are not having always online doing market price checking. But there could be best to do if you are holding crypto and that is to hold still no matter how market price moves the important thing is that when market price is high you have to sell and get your profit and invest again.
52  Economy / Economics / Re: Success of an investment may not be true to all? on: August 17, 2018, 08:17:06 AM
We cannot really provide the best solution for our investment; however, it is enough to earn a profit and say " Yes my investment really is successful" and refer to other people.

I think not all of us make a better decision especially when we talk about money matters. The pressure "risk" and the financial concerns, as well as the existing problem, may alter the decisions that we have. Thus, we can`t forecast success on investment by merely having profit because it might end up to another bunch of investors to be trapped in an investment and eventually want a scapegoat even if the outcome would be a loss. Significantly, it will give discouragement to the other potential investors.

Thus, we should not be more confident about what we get because some people may not find the fit and would result in a greater impact of discouragement as a whole. In addition, even when the intention is good, but if the person lack of courage, patience, and aspiration then it would create a mistake; and a mistake of one individual may lead to an overall conclusive distraction.

yes if all are successful on this system on their investment then literally our profit would not be that big. However, there is a time for you to become successful maybe not now or sooner but for sure if you will going to learn more on this system definitely it will just come around.
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you stop calling Bitcoin an investment? on: August 17, 2018, 03:29:19 AM
Wether you like it or not bitcoin is already known to be an investment because the term profit and earning is there. You could not call bitcoin a mere digital currency that could be use as a medium of exchange though we know that the real purpose of the creation of cryptocurrency is to have a peer to peer transaction without having the third party that will relatively collect higher transaction fees. However, it seems that many of the people here in cryptocurrency are taking advantage on its volatility so the term investment was created as they are earning profit on its volatility.
54  Other / Beginners & Help / Is there any orientation on bitcoin investment? on: August 16, 2018, 12:53:43 PM
I would love to attend a seminar regarding bitcoin investment on how to earn on it because basing on experience as i have purchased a little amount of it seems like i had a little problem like having fear and worries as a result i end up losing my money in the end of the investment. In any case if someone had any ideas how to get a chance to get an orientation on bitcoin investment then i will give it a try.
55  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kim Kardashian promoting Bitcoin on instagram. During Poker Game. on: August 16, 2018, 08:03:57 AM
This is a good thing that happen to the bitcoiners here in this forum. As we all know that most of us discussing bitcoin current news and somehow promoting bitcoin as part of our goals and objectives to let bitcoin soar high and to be acceptable of the people around the world. Now that the objectives is somehow already realize somehow and as an evident this thread showing a celebrity promoting bitcoin is an evidence. This is why we should be happy now that we are able to join this system.
56  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you still holding when market price falls abnormally? on: August 11, 2018, 01:09:53 PM
Yes, that is the best strategy for now which is to hold your btc at this very situation. This has been the lowest so far within the year and I hope this will no longer go deep down. However, if the bear market will continue to go down trend, still we don't have any choice but to wait further until the recovery and continue to hold so far.
However even if you do hold but how come still market price goes down? I do not really have the idea of this and i am a little bit worried though i am still holding now my crypto. I guess i need to chill for a bit also this is since the market price for most of the cyrpto is very alarming i hope that market could recover sooner.
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58  Economy / Economics / Re: The whole market is going down. Any particular reason for that? on: August 11, 2018, 06:43:10 AM
Guys whole market is going down rapidly. Especially see the ETH price. it is crazy.  But I didn't see there is the specific case except  ETF. Can anyone guess when will be market recover? 
Well i guess as market price for crypto falls so does the clients or investors of cryptocurrency seeing this will make them also sell. Meaning the downfall of market price itself is like a domino effect that will take effect on each investors to sell their crypto to avoid much loses on their money being invested on crypto.
59  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Prices Are Falling Again. The Cause? on: August 11, 2018, 06:07:11 AM
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Bitcoin fell 2% early on Wednesday, dropping as low as $6,385. Other than one brief period in early February, when the cryptocurrency dipped below $6,000, today marks the lowest point for Bitcoin in 2018.

The latest Bitcoin crash appears to be a reaction to the release of a new study by University of Texas-Austin researchers indicating that Bitcoin prices were manipulated last year—when Bitcoin soared from $800 to nearly $20,000.

The New York Times report on the study explained that a “concentrated campaign of price manipulation may have accounted for at least half of the increase in the price of Bitcoin and other big cryptocurrencies last year.”


The research, conducted by University of Texas finance professor John M. Griffin and graduate student Amin Shams, presents evidence that another cryptocurrency called Tether was used to purchase Bitcoin after market downturns, thereby propping up Bitcoin prices.

“Tether seems to be used both to stabilize and manipulate Bitcoin prices,” the researchers say in the study.

Tether was created by a crypto exchange called Bitfinex, whose executives strongly denies the claims. “Bitfinex nor Tether is, or has ever, engaged in any sort of market or price manipulation. Tether issuances cannot be used to prop up the price of Bitcoin or any other coin/token on Bitfinex,” Bitfinex CEO J.L. van der Velde said in a message sent to Business Insider.

The University of Texas researchers tracked millions of cryptocurrency transactions last year, and say that the “patterns cannot be explained by investor demand proxies” and instead seemed to arise through the strategic use of Tether.

What’s more, this scenario brings with it the possibility of huge profits for Tether creators, the study states: “If Bitcoin prices increase, then the founders can cash out the acquired Bitcoins into dollars, likely at a slower pace and on an opaque channel that has less price impact than their initial buying behavior. If the Tether issuers wish to legitimize Tether and avoid scrutiny, they can convert some of their cryptocurrencies to U.S. dollars and retrospectively provide dollar reserves for Tether.”

After skyrocketing in value in 2017, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have collapsed through much of this year. Bitcoin fell 40% during the course of one week at the end of January, and cryptos like Ethereum, Ripple, and Litecoin dropped more than 25% in a single day. The cryptocurrency crash is still happening today. Litecoin, for one, decreased to a new low for 2018 on Wednesday, hitting $97—a dip of nearly 75% off the all-time high of $379 in December.

Much like the sharp increases of 2017, the steep declines for cryptocurrencies over the past few months are hard to fully explain. Most observers chalk them up to a combination of countries cracking down on crypto exchanges and investors either seeking to cash out their profits or eat their losses. Or more people could be accepting the premise of critics like billionaire investor Warren Buffett and Nobel-winning economist Robert Shiller, who basically say that Bitcoin is a scam, or at least a bubble that’s bound to pop.

Hackers and the possibility of price manipulation seem to also be concerns for crypto investors. After a South Korean crypto exchange said it was hacked last week, Bitcoin tumbled 10%. In addition to the new University of Texas report on Bitcoin price manipulation, U.S. investigators are looking into whether several cryptocurrency exchanges have been manipulating prices, the Wall Street Journal reported last week.

In the University of Texas study’s conclusion, researchers say, “Our findings provide substantial support for the view that price manipulation may be behind substantial distortive effects in cryptocurrencies.” And they say that more regulation is needed: “These findings suggest that external capital market surveillance and monitoring may be necessary to obtain a market that is truly free.”

http://time.com/money/5310924/bitcoin-price-manipulation-tether/

I haven't yet read the study which claims a link between tether and bitcoin. My initial impressions are its a BS claim. Tether lacks the market cap to significantly affect bitcoin's price. The amount of purchasing volume necessary to manipulate the price of bitcoin up near $20k is far in excess of bitfinex or tether's net worth. If the price of bitcoin was manipulated there are far better ways of explaining it. Crypto exchanges which lack trade commissions are probably a better explanation for market manipulation as it could allow traders to buy and sell to themselves on multiple accounts on an exchange without incurring significant losses.

The last line of this article seems to contradict itself:

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In the University of Texas study’s conclusion, researchers say, “Our findings provide substantial support for the view that price manipulation may be behind substantial distortive effects in cryptocurrencies.” And they say that more regulation is needed: “These findings suggest that external capital market surveillance and monitoring may be necessary to obtain a market that is truly free.”

This is what comes to mind, reading the last part.



The idea of a crypto market being "enslaved" under surveillance and monitoring, in order to achieve "freedom" could be a form of "freedom is slavery" political posturing.

If the context is correct.
Simply they manipulate market price to maximize the optimal market price increase in the near future where they are planning to beat the 2017 highest market price for bitcoin. In this way they should go down first just like emptying the glass of water and fill another huge volume.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where to get reliable bounties on: August 10, 2018, 06:08:53 AM
I have seen a lot threads here about how to choose good bounties. It shows the challenges many of us here are going through in choosing a good bounty. If you really want to maximize  your chances of participating in bounties of successful ICOs, i will recommend Bountyhive for you. The success rate of their bounties is very high. Their social media campaign is less stressful because of the absence of weekly reports. They have a limit as to the number of participants in each campaign thereby enabling you to earn a higher income. Although there are certain drawbacks in their processes such as your inability to see your weekly earnings on their spreadsheet, in general their services are really good and i will recommend for everyone
I had a lot of troubles also on getting good bounty campaign in order to get a good reward. It seems like there are too many bounty program to start with and sometimes those bounty program will end up letting you receive small amount reward for the reason that they do not have enough money collected on the ICO period. I will read some inputs of the members so i could be enlighten also.
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