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From my understanding, the memory is already on the GPU itself. All the work is suposto be done on the GPU. That's why I can run the X1 PCIe slots, it's not transfering anything to/from the GPU other than some key values between the pool and the GPU.
Why would you need any host-side memory other than to run the OS and the small footprint needed by the mining software?
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Smart people are buying at low levels, and of course sell at high levels
Are you smart?
Think about it!
But that's the real trick. It's easy to say buy-low and sell-high, but in my experience it rarely works out that way. Ive bought other coins at what appeared to be low values, only to see them go lower still. It's a 50-50 guess when I buy if it will go up or down from that point. I know that some folks have what appears to be a magic touch, but im my experience, just selling the mined coins at market has produced a steady return. That's what my wife likes to see. I have to bring money in or I get badgered about it all the time. As for a hobby, I already have tonnes more computer equipment than the average joe, so that doesn't fly well with her either. The only way I could get into mining was to commit to pay back the investment as quickly as possible. |
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I agree, while the relative comparason between BTC/VTC seems to show a price drop, I believe VTC is stable.
However, because of the comparason to BTC, ive decided to hold my mined VTC rather than sell it daily as I normally do.
So for the time being, im going to keep mining but hold my VTC.
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Ive got 7850s. When I start vertminer with just pool/login info, 3 of the gpu's fail and one runs about 10KHs.
Running Scrypt, I get 420KHs out of all 4 gpus.
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I would love it if I could actually tune vertminer.
However, my problem is that just running vertminer with no command line options and no conf file results in gpu failure.
I need to figure a way to just get it started before I can consider tuning it.
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Dumb question...
If I have coin staking, as it ages it stakes at a lower APR.
If I send the coin out and back (or just back to myself), does that reset the coin age back to 0, so it starts staking at 100% APR again?
Im asking because I read somewhere that when you send a coin, it splits it into fractions and the wallet creates a hidden address with the fractions, implying that all the coins are "re-newed".
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Right click on desktop => AMD-Catalyst Control Center (CCC) => Performance => AMD Overdrive => remove checkbox "Enable GraphicsOverdrive" => done  Got me 3 brand new grey hairs till i found out what was wrong  Those "OverDrive" tuned the card down and "re-adjusted" my mining settings... *AAARRGGHHHhhhh...*  And as i wrote above: every vendor has its own "sweet spot"... not every time is more = more hashes It was already off (unchecked). I guess I never turned it on. When I went in there it first asked me to accept license agreement, which implies I never used it previously. |
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.
Looks like RAM issue. How much RAM do you have? You need about 4Gb (up to 3 GPU) Try to swap RAM modules between slots (disconnect power cable when doing this). I have a single 4Gb stick. |
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand.  Please disable in AMD-CCC grafic-overdrive. The GPU-core depends on the vendor of your hardware: i'm using a r9 280x from powercolor(a cheap vendor) and have a GPU-core of 970 with 330kh/s. On Sapphire cards i'm using a gpu-core of 1050 with 350kh/s. diff of 20kh/s => at atm price ~ 22$ per yeah diff but costs me 50 bucks less when buying new => 2 years ROI  I don't recall the brand offhand, could be PowerColor... I can check when I get home. About the AMD-CCC thingy, how/where does one disable this (and re-enable if it doesn't help)? |
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with my setting i get about 373kh/s, just using this in cgminer
-g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 with that core and mem settings
try TC 8192 instead of 8193 and 1040 core instead of 1050
Changed the TC to 8192 and engine to 1040. Ran about the same, maybe 1% worse than with 1050. I don't think the TC change had any effect. The -g 2 option killed things totally though, it's terrible with that option. One card basically is crap with this option, the other runs, but slower. |
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Tried the config you sent, one GPU is fine but about the same hashrate (215KHs), the other GPU doesn't like it for some reason. Both are the same brand. |
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that's pretty bad hash you got there, you should try this, the core make the big difference
1040 core /1500 mem, -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13(same as regular scrypt)
Im running the following, which seems pretty close to what you say. "api-listen" : true, "expiry" : "1", "no-submit-stale" : true, "scan-time" : "1", "auto-fan" : true, "gpu-threads" : "1", "gpu-engine" : "1050", "gpu-fan" : "0-85", "gpu-platform" : "0", "gpu-memclock" : "1500", "gpu-powertune" : "0", "intensity" : "13", "temp-target" : "85", "temp-overheat" : "90", "temp-cutoff" : "95", "temp-hysteresis" : "1", "vectors" : "1", "worksize" : "256", "lookup-gap" : "2", "thread-concurrency" : "8193", "no-pool-disable" : true |
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I feel that people who mining .... or steal electricity or steal coins  Who sells at this price I like VTC, it's saved my GPU's from becoming paperweights. That said, I don't "hold" VTC, as im still trying to eek-out my ROI for my rigs. Thus, I mine and then I sell at market. Not trying to be mean, once I reach ROI I would probably hold the coin, but for now I need to pay back my account to keep my wife happy. She's expecting regular payments comming back in from the equipment. but ... ... wait... you mean you have free electricity or THAT cheap? Since I see no other reason how you could get roi with this price against electricity mining cost... So if you doing this way you are lucky man living in place where you afraid not of electricity costs.... for me its like 0.23$ per kwh + I pay monthly costs of landing room + lpg in around 400 usd .... :/ So honestly if I would cash out from every coin I mined since a longer while till now then it would be like losing loads of usd daily because of mining... in this way if I had choice mine and sell vs turn off rigs ... yes the second choice would have more sense :/ So shit... I put all under vert... we will see if will be screwed by luck or will somehow get soon or later costs  Anyway sad... very sad looking how so many ... many ... last days just selling "loads" of verts pretty honestly could say "loaaads" of them Dont know if this is kind of losing trust... or just eager to cash out while btc has little bigger value... or maybe really temprary out to invest in other coin... Generally I know one thing... Until more then 1 bigger investor... more like at least few will get into vert... we wont see rising price... And if we see ONLY losing the price then even those who not much care of price will simply stop believing... thats how the world work... and even if we wish other way we wont change it I as myself currently lost ideas how to do anything good to make all better here... its not dependant on me as I noticed last days ... whenever I asked something important (I believe was) I was crushed... Anyway... I am sure all of you know well - if price fall hard... even more will dump bigger amounts... ANY ideas from anyone to at least stop the trend? Or we all just deciding to watch this movie ? My electric is $0.091/KWh. I only earn about 1-2 VTC per day, so im not dumping some huge quantity. Im pretty close to ROI anyhow, maybe another month. I started in Jan and told my wife I would have ROI in 100 days. Well, I blew that date, but closing in on it now. I don't think she tracks the electric that close anyhow, mainly just wants me to put back into the account what I took out to buy the rigs. On a side note, ive never been able to get decent hashrates from my GPUs. Ive tried tuning them, but not much luck. My R8-280x cards generate about 215KHs, is that pretty normal? Almost forgot to add, but Kill-o-Watt shows that Scrypt-N uses a lot less power than Scrypt, so that's a plus also. |
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I feel that people who mining .... or steal electricity or steal coins Who sells at this price I like VTC, it's saved my GPU's from becoming paperweights. That said, I don't "hold" VTC, as im still trying to eek-out my ROI for my rigs. Thus, I mine and then I sell at market. Not trying to be mean, once I reach ROI I would probably hold the coin, but for now I need to pay back my account to keep my wife happy. She's expecting regular payments comming back in from the equipment. |
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Thats a cool one Never been there, would LOVE to go! |
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Cheap coins! Time to buy people!!!
Just did. |
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There are comments in other threads saying there are reports of gpu damages from nscrypt mining. Is this true?
no My VTC rigs run cooler than my Scrypt rigs. On one of my scrypt rigs the CGWatcher crashed and didn't correct the temps while I was at work. I had a 7850 go all the way to 97C, and I freaked. However, when I caught it, I disable it till it cooled down and after re-enabling, it ran fine. Still working. My VTC rigs run the R9-280x and those normally run around 85C at I13. No problems, 24/7 for several weeks now without a reboot or hiccup. |
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The problem I have is that it appears that some slots are not active if another slot is in use.
When I plug a card into a slot and it's running fine, then I plug another card into another slot and the first card disappears.
Even though I have 6 slots on my mobo, I can't get more than 4 actually working at any time.
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I love how the mig guy just kind of pretends that he hasn't read our plan for WHEN an asic is made for our coin. He sounds as if we are running a show assuming noone will make asics for it...we are running a show knowing ofcourse someone will make asics for it, and when that happens we will initiate operation hardfork No doubts, but my question I posed before is how do you tell exactly when an ASIC does start to mine VTC? I may be dense, but the only way I know of is by increased hashrate. Yet, that can be caused by additional GPU's being converted over to VTC (as im starting to do with the resto of my 12MH). It can also be that the ASCI is small enough to not make a noticable bump in the global hashrate due to small/limited production runs or distribution. What's the trick for knowing when an ASIC starts to mine VTC? How do you actually tell? Thought I answered this indirectly before, I'll try to be more clear.. You can't tell unless it has a significant impact on the network hashrate, even then it would just be conjecture until an ASIC is publicly available. I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of Vertcoin, we're not a hardline anti-ASIC cult, we're very pragmatic. Vertcoin is about preventing the complete domination by ASICs pushing everyone else out making the network more centralised to huge ASIC farms. There's no way we can just look at the blockchain and know for sure that some factory in China isn't secretly mining VTC on a small scale right now, using their own ASIC design. Of course if we were to find out that one exists for real, that would be a cause for hard-forking since it is mostly likely a test-run before larger-scale production. But we can't hard-fork every time there is an ASIC rumour.. Cool, that's what I was hoping to hear. I guess I was reading too much into the hard-line stance, which just didn't seem reasonable to me. Your explanation is much more in line with what I was expecting. Thanks |
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I love how the mig guy just kind of pretends that he hasn't read our plan for WHEN an asic is made for our coin. He sounds as if we are running a show assuming noone will make asics for it...we are running a show knowing ofcourse someone will make asics for it, and when that happens we will initiate operation hardfork No doubts, but my question I posed before is how do you tell exactly when an ASIC does start to mine VTC? I may be dense, but the only way I know of is by increased hashrate. Yet, that can be caused by additional GPU's being converted over to VTC (as im starting to do with the resto of my 12MH). It can also be that the ASCI is small enough to not make a noticable bump in the global hashrate due to small/limited production runs or distribution. What's the trick for knowing when an ASIC starts to mine VTC? How do you actually tell? |
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