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Both terms quoted don't pass the vibe check.
having a max win amount yet accepting bets with potential winnings above that amount is lazy and a scummy.
If you want to have a term like only accepting first bet on selection it should be posted on betslips and in a banner pinned to the top of all sportsbook pages.
also very scummy.
I've had some good times at Fortunejack in the past and almost recommended them to a close friend, glad I didn't after this behaviour.
I expect fortunejack to realize how horrible such rules are and offer a settlement to OP and rule changes to their terms.
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I'm not sure what you expect him to do? He's probably not lying here. A company as large as Stake obviously will have security considerations and VIP hosts will probably have different access privileges to the site content compared to the rest of the support team. It's a bit unreasonable to expect someone who is not specialised in this field to be able to assist you. A VIP Host should have powers to pull a players value into the equation. In any major vegas strip casino this would be settled on the spot with one call to a real host. That would be in questionable spots. In this particular situation host to should contact casino manager for complete review of why player hasn't be compensated for a site fault. This is not true. No host would get involved with a dispute between one of their players and their employer (meaning any pit boss or sports book manager). At most they would give you something to calm you down (like a meal or something) and a phone number to reach someone who can look into it. And if you kept arguing with the host, you wouldn't have one much longer. I assume OP was at my level of play not some kiddies game type gambling. once you start betting 2k+ for millions of turnover a host job is to keep you coming back no matter what. At a proper gambling organisation a host should work for general manager or shift manager. I know what I'm talking about and have been around the traps long enough on both sides. A host doesn't argue with you at this level. My original point is Stake have host but should call them customer service reps, because they do a poor job keeping high stake players for example this thread. |
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I'm not sure what you expect him to do? He's probably not lying here. A company as large as Stake obviously will have security considerations and VIP hosts will probably have different access privileges to the site content compared to the rest of the support team. It's a bit unreasonable to expect someone who is not specialised in this field to be able to assist you. A VIP Host should have powers to pull a players value into the equation. In any major vegas strip casino this would be settled on the spot with one call to a real host. That would be in questionable spots. In this particular situation host to should contact casino manager for complete review of why player hasn't be compensated for a site fault. |
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Their job title should be changed. Such poor treatment of a customer. |
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Is there anything else we can do to show that Blackjack.fun is the most Honest and Trusted gambling house on the market? I've always advocated the gambling sites should show proof of bankroll in cold storage etc, no other site has listened. The site looks great, The graphics are top quality. Nice low vig games. I think I'll sign up here next when some funds are freed up. I might have missed the poker post, what are the plans for poker games? what limits and rake will you take? |
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Btw, what games do you play there? so you managed to reach the 40x wager requirement, don't say you play Frozen gems :v
Thanks man! Sadly, I couldn't find Frozen Gems on FJ, not even outside the "Bonus Wagering" pool. It's fine though, that game only milk your tits. A little bit downside of this bonus (not gonna complain a lot since it's free, lul) is the limited pool of games available for bonus wagering, and mostly old games. I spent 90% of my gaming time playing PnG and Pragmatic, so naturally I'll still play these two. However, PnG wasn't available at the time of the promotion, so I played only Pragmatic games. Congrats on the score! It's always extra nice when it's free. Why is frozen gems your preferred slot? Most of FJ's slots aren't in the bonus wagering section, might be worth a review. |
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I had a look and was not impressed.
Main issue is the site uses it's own token causing deposits to be charged exchange losses. I also saw to withdrawal from the site back to bitcoin there is a massive 5% fee plus another exchange loss. So you loss 5 to 15% of your deposit before you even make a bet.
Where did you find the info about the deposit and withdrawal fee? Previously Twicedice said that there is no deposit and withdrawal fee so I'm wondering which one is correct, whether they charges fees on withdrawal/deposit or not. Each Dagchip is valued at a fixed amount of 0.5 EUR, with no withdrawal or deposit fees, making the token cost-effective, and safe to hold for extended amounts of time.
@TwiceDice, can you clarify which one is correct? Is it true what is said by above user "win win win"? Don't trust. verify. Have a quick look at their bitcoin withdrawals section. 5% fee on BTC withdrawals. They use a 3rd party to exchange BTC to their token. I'm guessing there would be a hidden fee in poor exchange rates both ways. Twicedice, I saw you mention an argument for KYC that applies to your fiat customers. I don't think it is needed for Cryptocurrency accounts. How can you justify KYC for Crypto accounts? |
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The site looks interesting, I might try over the weekend and report back. Let me know what people want to hear in a non biased review.
Is there any chance the withdrawal fees are reduced?
I hope the sportsbook is improved when the NFL starts up
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I had a look and was not impressed.
Main issue is the site uses it's own token causing deposits to be charged exchange losses. I also saw to withdrawal from the site back to bitcoin there is a massive 5% fee plus another exchange loss. So you loss 5 to 15% of your deposit before you even make a bet.
The bonus wagering is 35x bonus and deposit making it effectively a massive 70x bonus wagering which is almost a guarantee of losing your deposit if the deposit and withdrawal fees don't need to finish you off.
(for reference fortunejack welcome bonus is 30x bonus(only) wagering)
Twice dice terms and conditions are written in a confusing way to always favour the site over the player. The rules are set but no protection is placed for the player.
I had a quick look at the sportsbook and the MLB bets had a 14% vig(normal is about 5%)
KYC is needed
no comment on customer service
Until things improve I would recommend avoiding this casino
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🎮 0% MARGIN IEM Cologne 2021 🎮  Hello dear community members, We’ve some excited news to the fellow gamblers of the bitcointalk. As we’ve been getting way too many requests regarding improving the odds for the sports markets, our team has decided to exclusively offer the highest odds for Cologne 2021 matches. Starting from today, all over to July 18, we will be having so-called zero margin for all the matches of the tournament. I guess, it’s go-to-use opportunity for the ones who bet on e-sports and play sportsbook in general. Play here - https://fortunejack.com/promotions/esports-landing
Let’s go! - Tornike Hi Fortunejack I want to thank you for making the high odds for the Euro matches! It was cool! And also thank you for your honest work! Now a question about the promo "CS: GO 0% MARGIN" FOR IEM COLOGNE 2021 Although I usually do not place bets on such events, it was interesting for me to see. There will be two matches today, July 17: G2 Esports - Astralis 1.64 - 2.13 (margin 7.34% ) Faze Clan - Natus Vincere 2.88 - 1.36 (margin 7.62%) Why do you call it "0% margin"  Is this some kind of mistake by the operator who set the odds? You can make an announcement like "place your bets on the championship CS:GO" but why do you call it "0% margin"? It is immediately clear that the margin is very large! and same was with UFC odds !!! Was there a response to this question about claiming best odds or zero margin and not following through? |
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I don't give much importance to a gambling license after being in the industry for decades. I play at several gambling sites without licenses. The best gambling site ever created didn't have a license.
If you are going to keep it as a factor I would investigate each licenser and rank at least.
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I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.
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Gamblers should ban together and stop supporting poor gambling sites
*Easy to read terms and conditions
*KYC free
*Free withdrawals (even if it's only once a week)
Any site that is missing any of these points should be avoided
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Now I am speaking to the higher level players from Stake now..... (Platinum and up) .... Did your win percentage drop when you leveled up to higher levels? I can remember lots of $100+ wins on $0.10 and $0.20 and $0.25 bets when I was Non VIP to Silver.... but since I reached Gold and Platinum... I hardly ever see any $100+ wins...? ((The Fire is Gone)) Is this just my imagination .... or do you have the same experience? (Some of my friends are still Bronze and Silver and they regularly send me brag screen grabs of their $100+ wins....)  Stake is still a awesome site, but I am just worried that my VIP upgrades will reduce my winning Our VIP rank has nothing to do with our luck, so it is completely your own feeling because you have better luck in the past than the current time. It is basically common thing, as we all know that there are many people says "when you start gamble for the first time then you'll get more win but you'll get more lost once you do it longer" My suggestion, try to play other games or try to take a rest for a while to get some relaxation. For further reading you can search survivorship bias |
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Nitrobetting cancelled my bonus when it was already around 70% in progress. So I nearly had my 50mbtc earned and they just cancelled it. Be prepared to have your bonuses cancelled mid rollover for no particular reason if you play with Nitrobetting.
If they canceled your bonus, surely there must be some reason for it? Regardless of whether we agree with that reason, they will have to come up with an explanation. Maybe it is set somewhere that after 70% of completing your bonus you get the amount in your account? Whether the date of the bonus expired? They said I am not a recreational bettor....in other words: I was winning to much to their liking. That's fine, limit me then or whatever. Or say: we won't have any bonuses for you moving forward. Or just pay me out the percentage of the bonus I had already completed. But do not cancel a pending bonus which was almost completed. This is childish. You have got some balls depositing on such a site. Such a shame bad actors like these companies still exist. I hope others heed the warning and avoid this site so the legitimate Casino/Sportsbooks become the norm. |
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Mansion must have change a lot since I last played there.
I've always wanted to run a unbiased casino ranking site. Time was always the issue. Good luck and hope things go well.
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- The bad beat jackpot is fully funded and ready to go and the new poker team is very excited about being able to offer this as a great opportunity to the players among many other new features and promotions. It will be very exciting and our core team will not be a part of it but we will certainly assist in marketing and advertising.
Now I trust your words, but I trust my own eyes even more. Telling me it's there is fine and all, showing me it's there is another thing. Sign a message, proof you actually do hold the 43 BTC in a seperated wallet, designated to be used for the BBJ. That way, you'll put an end to all the questions about it and can focus on actually bringing stuff online and paying things back. Looks like a fair request. Why hasn't the funds been proven? |
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This casino should be avoided!
I registered on the 5th of february and made a 400mbtc deposit. I played just a couple of games and then left most of my funds in my account. When i came back the next day i cannot log into my account. I have contacted support but at first they say there is no account with my email, but i have my registration email and account is approved so this is impossible.
Afterwards they say the security team is looking in to the account and will email me tomorrow but they do not send any email at all. I have sent 3 emails to them since but they just do not respond to my messages!
If you do not want me as a customer then just refund my deposit!
I deposited, played and won with my own funds (no bonus) and they locked my account saying I had multiple accounts and refuses to payout my winnings and deposits. I have manage to locate their physical address and a number of workers that work for them. I will be filing charges if my winnings and/or deposits (All of them) aren't returned! Woah! What don't you get? Threats are not acceptable, If they owe you money go through the correct channels and process, Don't make yourself the villain. |
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Sorry for your loss.
I hope you recover the coins, It's such a worry of mine, That they won't be recovered by my loved ones.
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Laughing maybe because your also a member of the "fuck-today-club"? Haha. Anyways, please tell Natalie I wish her the warmest regards. haha, sure I will! Need to file complaint for non pay. Should I call police? You don't sound like you are 18+ |
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