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261  Economy / Marketplace / Re: We accept Bitcoins [moved to bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade] on: February 21, 2011, 02:21:31 AM
No idea how long they've had it, but anonnews.org is now accepting bitcoin donations. Searched the forum for any news of it and didn't find anything so, sorry if this is a repost
262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banned words when explaining Bitcoin to the mainstream on: February 20, 2011, 12:02:51 AM
I heard the other day from the Tor blog, less than 2% of internet users even know what a proxy is, let alone use one. Unrelated, but it can give a good idea how we'll need to rethink how we explain things like this to the normal internet user.
263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple application to backup your wallet in Dropbox and Gmail [scam] on: February 19, 2011, 06:48:54 PM
This is why I rely on YOU guys to test out new software.... for me....   Smiley

I hate to see innocent people scammed like that.

Sadly I think this is going to become common. It's just too easy, especially if the forum was even larger and had many unknowing and unsuspecting individuals.
Could we somehow enforce rules on links to downloadable material? Create a team willing to somehow test new downloads before they are allowed on the forum? How do you protect people when the users are not as advanced in computers as 95% of the users here currently?
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple application to backup your wallet in Dropbox and Gmail [scam] on: February 19, 2011, 04:42:08 PM
Take the entire url out of the first post.
265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple application to backup your wallet in Dropbox and Gmail on: February 18, 2011, 07:40:54 PM
Would be nice if it could zip and encrypt the file before adding it to dropbox. I use a program called Syncback for all the backups on my computer, and can schedule intervals like this. The ability to encrypt files is important when making these backups especially if you're adding things to the cloud.
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should we ban something on the Bitcoin marketplace? on: February 17, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Don't try to moderate the open market and what two consenting adults want to do.  I think bitcoin is about a free open market and free choice.  Limited choice is what spawned bitcoin's creation in the first place.  If you don't approve or wish to participate in some product or service, then don't.  How can you judge and say something between consenting adults is immoral?  On what grounds can you say something shouldn't be allowed here?

You're the first one to bring up any argument of these being "immoral". No one said that and I doubt many feel that. As others and I have said, it's about keeping the integrity of the forum and focusing on what is important.
Let's say months down the line, a third of the market of filled with drug dealing. Do you really think a website/community like slashdot would even want to write about it? How would we gain publicity if websites don't want to cover something involving drug sales? Do you think if a big market like, say, amazon, was to look into bitcoin and saw drug dealing was openly happening on the home site of bitcoin, they would even bother?

Silly. I understand everyone's want for integrity and open freedoms, but this forum is integrated into bitcoin.org, where everyone will come to check out bitcoins and learn. Where the majority of people will disapprove of drugs, especially of the anonymous sales of them online. Again, I'm not implying this is me, I don't care what you do with your bitcoins. But putting drug sales right next door to the bitcoin homepage and FAQ, gives the wrong idea, especially to the majority of internet users who do not fully understand bitcoins, the technology behind it, nor care about it, and are just looking into a "paypal alternative".

Stop taking it so personal. I don't care what two consenting adults do(who's to say your transaction is with an adult anyway?). I wish we had a marketplace forum separate of bitcoin.org where rules weren't an issue, because having it tied to bitcoin.org is my ONLY problem. Bitcoin.org is the face of the community, and there's no sense having things like this plastered on the walls. If the no holds barred ruling stays, I hope it doesn't bite us in the ass concerning publicity.
267  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Psychological advisory on: February 17, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
I was just pointing out the irony that when you put the term into http://lmgtfy.com  the box below says "was that so hard ?" considering the meaning at urban dictionary...


HAH. Well, I do admit, it is funny. Hadn't realized that's what you were pointing out.

Sorry for the hijack, wobber. Carry on with your advisory of the psyche.  Tongue
268  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Psychological advisory on: February 16, 2011, 11:42:59 PM
Thanks for the tip, but I did that. Considering the only place whatsoever that mentioned it was urbandictionary, it only had 26 up votes, and "define:wobber" on google came up with nothing, I skipped it Roll Eyes

I guess urbandictionary is more of a dictionary than I thought to some people.
269  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Psychological advisory on: February 16, 2011, 07:35:32 PM
I have no idea what a "wobber" means.
270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should we ban something on the Bitcoin marketplace? on: February 16, 2011, 02:56:25 PM
This is the same kind of debate we have on wikileak.
Heh yeah, scared people VS people who feel that no matter what happens, bitcoin or one of its clone will free humanity a little more Smiley

Little close minded. It's not about being "scared", and I do agree bitcoin will live on if the forum dies. Doesn't mean common sense isn't needed to preserve what we have and grow it to the utmost potential and best reputation possible, especially considering it's infancy.
271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should we ban something on the Bitcoin marketplace? on: February 16, 2011, 02:26:07 PM
What is our goal here?

Is our goal to destroy fiat money?

Or is it something more radical than this?

Obviously, the community is made of individuals with differing perspective on politics. How should we handle this political diversity? Should we let the philosophy of the members guide bitcoin's development?

This wouldn't interfere with bitcoin at all. Users can still spend them on what they please. The question should be, what is the forum's goal? And I don't think it's to grab any attention possible.

If you ban illegal goods here, another place for them will appear.
That's the point. I could care less where else they appear. Why risk government involvement and bad business reputation with providing it here?


I'm sure we could all agree to prohibit child porn. That's already an exception to our freedoms on this board, but because it's believed by the majority, it's upheld and accepted. I don't care if drugs are sold with bitcoins or porn or other things, I just don't see any point whatsoever in having this done here, where businesses will come to gather information of the user base and where users will first look to gather an opinion of the community. Majority of users will be weary in a place that openly sells drugs, and majority of businesses would think three times before even allowing the notion of bitcoins if they saw that happening in the forums. Why bring negative attention? The whole internet is a big open field. Run free and express yourself however you want. Make a black market forum using bitcoins. Sell your drugs. I just don't see why it has to be done here. There's always limits to how much freedom you can have, the child porn being a perfect example. Focus on what the forum is most important for.
272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DAE think drugs, porn and gambling w/ BTC should discouraged? on: February 16, 2011, 01:40:59 PM
Disagreed. This forum is the central hub of community - meeting place of everything that relates to Bitcoin.
If we ever want this currency to go mainstream, we should not let it die.
Stuff happens on IRC.
This forum is nice to have but definitely not critical.


I'm willing to bet over 90% of those who use the internet don't use IRC, and will never want to.

I agree with Shadow here. My stance has nothing to do with morals, and I think it would be pretty silly if we let the board go up in flames because we allowed sales of drugs or other illegal goods. I've seen forums shut down for this exact reason before and the host doesn't give a damn about "freedom of speech" if they think it's going to come and bite them in the ass.

Porn and gambling can be legal. I could care less about those topics. But if someone up high catches wind of drug sales going on here, it will bring a lot of unneeded attention and problems.
This board is important for the long haul of the bitcoin community and the continued technical development of the system, and it would be foolish to lose that because we couldn't make a few rules on what can or cannot be sold here.

"Human trafficking? Murder? Have no fear your coins are accepted here"
273  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Psychological advisory on: February 15, 2011, 07:46:41 PM
What Would Wobber Do :p

274  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Poker Stars USD for Bitcoin ($1/BTC) on: February 15, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Why are you buying right before the crash?



"Why are you doing something to prevent a crash right before the crash?"

"Why are you hitting the brakes right before the crash?"


If people keep buying, it keeps a crash from happening and there won't be one... Wink

275  Economy / Marketplace / Re: USA residents; Are you near to a national bank branch? on: February 15, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Which US bank has the most branches in the most places?

Out of sheer curiosity, why are you asking?

I'm interested as well.

Please...don't consider Bank of America for ANYTHING.
276  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New US Based Exchanger - Main target US Customers on: February 14, 2011, 04:51:23 PM
I guess I will have to look at how AML affects me. I know Paypal now gives 1099's to anyone making over 200 tx or some certain amount of money ($1K?). As much as I hate taxes and other laws I'd rather comply than be in jail.

Paypal is going to give 1099s for 200 transactions or $20,000.


I don't see what anyone would have to complain about in your service david. It's not like they'd be forced to use it.
277  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Demonoid invites on: February 13, 2011, 11:13:34 PM
Nothing is good about demonoid.

Private trackers are awesome, but if you're going to get a private tracker, shoot for something higher than demonoid. MANY people still get ISP letters from demonoid.
278  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Most cost effective way to exchange USD for BTC? on: February 12, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
I'd say cash in mail is the cheapest option.
279  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New US Based Exchanger - Main target US Customers on: February 12, 2011, 07:01:11 PM
Fantastic Smiley. I'm excited to see the future of your work.
280  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Credit Score on: February 10, 2011, 04:53:07 PM


RipplePay already supports Bitcoin and it is a larger network


Interesting, I didn't know this. I do believe raindroplet was the first one to add Bitcoin to the list, but I'm glad the main project has as well. Ripple could be a very important partner to bitcoin.
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