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41  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Scam Alert: Do not use OKPAY on: December 14, 2013, 11:52:03 PM
I also had bad experience with them. After a hell of bureaucracy and waiting plus blocking times finally I was able to move my money to btc-e .. but this did take another 24 hours.. in the mean time I had 0 Euro left in my okpay wallet and 0 Euro in btc-e.. I don't know who is at fault here, but this is one major factor holding crypto currencies back. All the services around using "old" money to purchase alt coins suck incredibly and seem not trustworthy at all.
42  Other / Beginners & Help / Why is it so hard to buy coins? on: December 14, 2013, 02:04:02 PM
Hi Guys, yes I am new to the whole subject.
I wanted to play around with cryptocoins a little bit and decided to buy some different kinds in order to get a feeling for the technology, the wallets, the communities.. everything sourrounding it basically.

Now it was fairly easy to buy BTC via a marketplace. seems to have a good reliable system there, working easily with SEPA bank transfers.
Afterwards I wanted to buy other currencies in Euro directly. So I had a look at kraken, btc-e, vircurex etc. and nowhere is any convenient way to buy coins directly in Euro using established money transfers (e.g. paypal, credit card payment, SEPA, etc). Always you had to lay out all kinds of personal information to sites I barely knew or trust. Sometimes even sketchy voucher systems and so on are in place in order to have some way to exchange Euros for coins.

I don't really want to go via BTC purchase first all the time I want to buy altcoins.
Also I have not yet tried to sell an altcoin again. I imagine it will be the same, first I need to trade to BTC and then I can sell BTC for Euro.

I wonder why is it like this? Why does it have to be so unconvenient? For me this is destroying the concept of the altcoins quite heavily because you are fully dependent on BTC.
43  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New alt coins? on: December 14, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
I came here with basically the same question, thank you for taking the burdon from me  Grin
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