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121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 24, 2013, 10:49:19 AM

Agreed, moonshot bids for $20 coins don't really count. I keep meaning to create an index that divides each bid/ask by the % distance from the current MMR. I think it would be much more insightful. I just can't square the maths to adjust for the fact that bids only differ by 100% but asks can be many 1000% higher. Anyone know how to properly adjust for that?

Simple, just base it on the logarithm of the price.

Thanks, but I think I've got it now. It's simpler than that.

One re-bases the order book so MMR is 1. lets call it $125. A $100 dollar bid at $10 dollars gets weighted by 0.08. An equally weighted ask of $100 would be priced at $1562 (the price at which current MMR represents only 8%.)

So who do I need to beg for historical daily snapshots of the full depth API?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88054

I'll pitch in half the 200btm if you share it with me.
Bingo. Thanks. I almost missed that reply. I'll get in touch with the dude after some tests on the old data.

As an aside; I can't help but feel I'm re-inventing the wheel here though. Brokers have had Level 2 data for years, why don't we have common TA indicators for depth like we do for Volume and Price. Am I missing something? Is this kind of thing common in CFA textbooks?
122  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-23 The Cryonic Bitcoin Mining Machine Is $15,000 Of Pure BTC Power on: May 24, 2013, 09:58:22 AM
Wait. Does this mean I won't get my $15k wire transfer back?
123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You like vim? Donate to Bram Molenaar in BTC and help kids in Uganda on: May 24, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
P.S. - Maybe this helps out a frustrated newbie:  one of my biggest gripes with VIM that almost made me give up on it when I was learning, was the seemingly asanine decisiion to use the "ESC" key to exit insert mode, since it forces your left hand to leave the home keys, all the time.  I later found out that you can use Ctrl-[ to exit insert mode, and that was what I needed to be happy.  If you hated because of the escape key, give it another shot now Smiley

QFT. This is good advice. I'm a happy user of `setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape`. I noticed the other day that google chromebooks go so far as to replace capslock with a kind of quick-search button.
124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 09:31:26 PM
^^Wow, I think we all just got trolled. I know what to say to get bitcoiners going now.
125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 09:24:40 PM
People hoarding BTC will kill it.
Objection! Statement not found in evidence.
126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
Bulls on Bitstamp are shifting a gear up.

 olmost there..  time to buy up what's left of cheap coins..
If that is arbitrage buying, that's probably why the gox price stalled, the coins are being dumped there simultaneously (for a profit).
127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 08:58:01 PM

90% don't own a car. But they're going to use money holding BTC? There is 0 domestic economy in China. Which is their problem.
Have you been under a rock for the last decade? China makes around half a million cars a month, all for domestic consumption.
128  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-23 CNN MONEY Why PayPal is Bullish on Bitcoin on: May 23, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
Strangely I think I could warm to 'synthetic currency' as a moniker. It sounds futuristic and cool.
129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 08:38:32 PM
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.

Under 10% of people in China own a car. 40% of families don't own a fridge. The average Chinese person has the same buying power an 9 year old american boy. The people in China with money, will buy/hold/sell BTC as they please. Mass adoption in China was overblown, buying a fridge ranks slightly higher then BTC.

You're missing the point. That's 1,200,000,000 cars that now won't be bought with bitcoin, because the people with money in China (the one's who own businesses) will do as they are told and not accept bitcoin. They would rather keep their businesses.
130  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-23 The Genesis Block: Are we primed for a new high? on: May 23, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
While I praise the development of dedicated bitcoin news sites; we need to make a collective decision about whether we are just going to regurgitate everything here in the Press section. Perhaps it's best If we only post CoinDesk/GenesisBlock stuff when they have an actual news scoop? I'm open to debate. What do people think?
131  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-22 RT Crosstalk - Bitcoin Ecosystem (Amir Taaki rules the show) on: May 23, 2013, 05:20:22 PM
The bitcoin market is already larger then 20 or 30 of the  worlds smallest currencies. 
(would love to see more stats on that one!).
Did you miss the epic Vladimir thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154954.0

I guess I did.

Here is the CIA World Factbook which lists both narrow and broad stocks of currency

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2215rank.html

This forum is getting too big, you practically need a tour guide now. I saw today that we nearly hit 3 million page views the last couple of days.
132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 05:15:57 PM
As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

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Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg2243603#msg2243603
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
133  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-22 RT Crosstalk - Bitcoin Ecosystem (Amir Taaki rules the show) on: May 23, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
The bitcoin market is already larger then 20 or 30 of the  worlds smallest currencies. 
(would love to see more stats on that one!).
Did you miss the epic Vladimir thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154954.0
134  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk needs to evolve on: May 23, 2013, 04:49:37 PM
Why not try using Discourse by the creators of Stack Overflow? Looks like really cutting-edge forum software.

That's a good forum software for discussions etc but it doesnt have alot features that this community needs.
It's not just a bitcoin discussion community anymore, people buy/sell stuff here and it has a pretty big marketplace.

Only forum software with good features and support is best for it like xenforo which DP is using now https://forums.digitalpoint.com.



Theymos already slapped the idea of Discourse down, but I think that was a bit rash. He should at least tell Jeff Atwood that there's 700 grand in it for him if he can incorporate our needs into the Discourse code-base!
135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 04:06:32 PM

Agreed, moonshot bids for $20 coins don't really count. I keep meaning to create an index that divides each bid/ask by the % distance from the current MMR. I think it would be much more insightful. I just can't square the maths to adjust for the fact that bids only differ by 100% but asks can be many 1000% higher. Anyone know how to properly adjust for that?

Simple, just base it on the logarithm of the price.

Thanks, but I think I've got it now. It's simpler than that.

One re-bases the order book so MMR is 1. lets call it $125. A $100 dollar bid at $10 dollars gets weighted by 0.08. An equally weighted ask of $100 would be priced at $1562 (the price at which current MMR represents only 8%.)

So who do I need to beg for historical daily snapshots of the full depth API?
136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
ATTENTION SHOPPERS. ATTENTION SHOPPERS.
We are having a 5% discount sale on Bitcoins all this week.
Head on over to the BitStamp aisle where we have half a million dollars for the first customers in line.
Thank you and have a nice day.
137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 23, 2013, 01:32:48 PM

-Bitstamp Orderbook is looking better every hour


Unfortunately I do not see that. Bid sum at Bitstamp was $955k a few days ago. Now its $1.05M. That's a tiny improvement. And it is still a joke compared with the $20M sitting on Gox's order book.

Total bid sum may not have increased as much, but lots of fiat was used to eat into the huge ask wall. Also bid sum from $100+ has increased by about 50% the past couple of days.
Agreed, moonshot bids for $20 coins don't really count. I keep meaning to create an index that divides each bid/ask by the % distance from the current MMR. I think it would be much more insightful. I just can't square the maths to adjust for the fact that bids only differ by 100% but asks can be many 1000% higher. Anyone know how to properly adjust for that?
138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin - Documentry film Trailer/Preview on: May 23, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
This looks great. Four months is going to feel like a very long wait!

*Shut-up-and-take-my-crypto-coins.gif
139  Bitcoin / Press / 2013-05-22 CoinDesk - Bit Angels on Fast Track to Invest in Bitcoin Startups on: May 22, 2013, 10:45:41 AM
http://www.coindesk.com/bit-angels-on-fast-track-to-invest-in-bitcoin-startups/

It looks like the positive effects of the conference are starting to bear fruit. More venture capital is always welcome.
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The company’s online presence took shape only days before during “a pretty amazing experience at the 2013 Bitcoin Conference,"

http://www.bitangels.co
140  Bitcoin / Press / 2013-05-21 [Press Release] - MaxCDN Now Accepting Payment Via Bitcoin on: May 22, 2013, 10:36:15 AM
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20130521005463/en/CDN/Content-Deliver-Network/Bitcoin

Not really a press hit, but came in via Google News so including it here.

Nice quote from the company representative:
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“Developers are a core part of our customer base and have been requesting this payment model,” said Justin Dorfman of NetDNA. “We’re strong believers in open source and part of that commitment is being responsive to developer requests. Bitcoin as the emerging 'coin of the realm' for this community and we’re excited at the opportunity to be accepting Bitcoins.”
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