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For those that still refuse to believe that Coinpot is scamming with the multiplier, here is mathematical evidence of the fraud they are committing. In screenshot #1 you can see that the highlighted numbers are a match and I received the tokens I won. However, in the screenshot below it, I ran the exact same "provably fair" formula to verify the roll but the numbers did not match. The number that I was supposed to roll was 210 which would have been a winning roll. Coinpot says I rolled 609, which was in the losing range, and did not award me the tokens I should have won.   Noone has anything to respond to that? I did the same verifications and I also found he should have hit 210 on his 2nd roll. Then I made the maths for my last 22 rolls, and I did find some discrepancies too on several occasions. How can that be explained? And what is the server seed hash for? I don't understand how it counts in the calculation of the roll. |
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So remember: never deposit!
I keep on deposit every day... no matter if I lose. As it's been said numerous time here, Coinpot is everything but safe. To me, it could clearly get closed anyday, noone should ever deposit anything on this website. And yes the multiplier has become a joke. This is not normal:  |
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Definitely, for everyone who still do not convince about... Coinpot is a SCAM... They pay you but in the end Coinpot want to convince you to deposit your funds... so never do it! Never play multiplier as lots of users reported here ridiculous results. I said it seasons ago... All bitcoin community have to fight against scam/fraud-gambling sites like this, do not fall into this frauds. EDIT (11/11/2020) I tried some rolls now and this is RIDICULOUSLY SCAM:  and I've just stoped right now with result: 566 rolls played and -266 token lost! RIDICULOUSLY SCAM!Your coin seems to have a problem too...  Give us your win / loss ratio, it's funnier that way. ^^ |
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So, do we all agree on the fact that my coin has a problem?
And that tails should occur much more often?
And that a 77% heads ratio is NOT normal? That is should be much closer to 50%?
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The Wikipedia GIF doesn't show a 77% loss ratio.  |
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Guys, I'd like your opinion on something.
Let's say I toss a coin 132 times and I get this result:
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30 times tails, 102 times heads.
23% tails, 77% heads.
Question : can we say my coin has a problem or is this the product of pure randomness?
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Hello,
I want warn all BitcoinTalk users that coinpot.co is definitely a SCAM service that pay only if you earn very small amounts grahamlyons??? Where the hell are you??? |
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Just let me quote myself: Don't waste your breath here, noone will believe you and they'll just say it's "tedious for everyone to see your whining on here". I've been experiencing the same problem for weeks now, I went as high as a 82 % loss ratio (89 losses for 109 rolls). You can read it starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006313.msg55024298#msg55024298But no, you juste have to believe it's "bad luck". |
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So there is a second lottery at coinpot since 2 weeks i found: the conversion rates.
I converted 1 token a few times to dash within one minute and got those rates:
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.00000114 dash
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.00000115 dash
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.00000129 dash
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.00000108 dash
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.0000013 dash
Conversion from 1 tokens to 0.00000129 dash
variance is nearly 20%
A funny new game at coinpot?
No, this cannot be true! Or, according to most people here, you must be a cheater/ botter/ abuser /s. BTW, I also noticed variance between exchange rate and the amount of sat I got. grahamlyons!!!! Where are you?  Someone is saying negative things about Coinpot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Hello to everyone.
I had been using Coinpot multiplier successfully for more than a year, starting with 300 tokens and playing for 30,000 rolls daily, one token per roll. Some days, I won a little more, others a little less but things seemed steady. During June, I kept a log with my daily results to see if the so called 0% house edge is true.
Over 30 days and a little more than 900,000 rolls I recorded a result of 49.8% win - 50.2 % loss, so quite close to the advertised 0% house edge. There is no way to keep screenshots or logs of the rolls, so I just wrote the results down in a text file. You can choose to believe me or not, that's up to you but I have no reason to lie.
However, during the past week or so, something has changed. The multiplier roll have been devastatingly in favor of the house. The first day it happened, I hadn't even made 4000 rolls when I was out of tokens. Thinking that I had made a mistake somewhere, I collected more tokens and tried again the next day. Same results. Changing roll frequency had no positive effect. Yesterday I started with 300 tokens and only played 1000 rolls to get to the first star. When it was all over, I ended up with 240 tokens, even less than what I started with. With my poor math skills I calculate this as 300 starting tokens + 100 tokens from star= 400-240=160 tokens less than if the chances were 50% so 340 wins / 660 losses in 1000 rolls.
34% looks quite lower than 50% to me. I also tried with more tokens (about 1000) to begin with but the best I managed to get was a 40%-60% distribution in favor of Coinpot.
Evidently, there must be something wrong with the multiplier algorithm or they have just changed the odds silently. I am not complaining as I have made a few dollars over the year but this forces me to stop playing. Once again, I have no tangible proof for this but I see there are others with the same problems as me, so that's why I decided to register and post this.
Don't waste your breath here, noone will believe you and they'll just say it's "tedious for everyone to see your whining on here". I've been experiencing the same problem for weeks now, I went as high as a 80 % loss ratio. You can read it starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006313.msg55024298#msg55024298But no, you juste have to believe it's "bad luck". --- EDIT --- 82 % loss ratio this morning (89 losses for 109 rolls). Just bad luck. |
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The proof is right here:  (merge of my previous graph with the current one) Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats 26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden 15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea 16/08 to today: machine broken again Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird. Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks. You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row. I think the graph just speaks for itself. You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^  |
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I roll with 20 or 25 taps open every day.
Autoroll on, 1 token stake.
I don't do i for the win or lose factor but for the challenges.
100.000 rolls a day gets me around 2000 tokens a day.
some days are better then others.
And you get free lottery tickets every day. Around 1000.
That's what I used to do too, I've done it for months. And I've withdrawn about 1000000 sats since I registered to this site, without ever depositing anything. But let's look at what I would've won today, had I rolled 100000 times: -100 tokens after 160 rolls: at this ratio, that makes -62500 tokens after 100000 rolls. Let's add the 2100 tokens I would have won thanks to the challenge: -62500 + 2100 = -60400 tokens Thanks but no thanks... ^^ |
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-100 tokens after 220 rolls! New world record!  Stats on my 169 last rolls: - 140 losses - 29 wins = 83 % loss ratio Winning streak: 2 (LOL) Losing streak: 14 (3 times) 0 % house edge! Yeah... Right...  -100 tokens after 160 rolls! Stats on my 167 last rolls: - 133 losses - 34 wins = 80 % loss ratio Winning streak: 1 (LOOOOL) Losing streak: 20  I'm gonna get a "0 % house edge" tatoo on my arm. Why do you keep playing if you say it's rigged? Cause I'm loving it!  |
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-100 tokens after 220 rolls! New world record! Stats on my 169 last rolls: - 140 losses - 29 wins = 83 % loss ratio Winning streak: 2 (LOL) Losing streak: 14 (3 times) 0 % house edge! Yeah... Right... |
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And the scam goes on... #0%houseedge |
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-100 tokens after 247 rolls ! New world record ! |
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Nah this is normal and you are right. You wont make profit with just playing the multiplier with a single tab.
I'm rolling with 5-6 days 24/7 and im generating tokens / making profit with the daily rewards, not with the multiplier.
That's exactly what I do too. ^^ The "profit" is usually irrelevant because I earn from all the challenge bonuses. But here, for the past few days, the machine has cleary been rigged. Look at my stats:  As you can see, I earn from challenges everyday, even when the "profit" is negative, because it's compensated. As soon as I can convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats, I withdraw them (I've done so already 121 times!). And then I start over. But see, since the end of July, there's an obvious huge house edge, that's been mentionned here regularly, that f*cks it all up. Yeah, you can have mishaps from time to time, of course... But not like that! |
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Yeah, that statement doesnt say the truth.
You are definitely -ev against coinpot but everyone with a clear mind should be aware of that fact.
So you say this is normal? Or do you think I'm lying?  |
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This morning : 1000 rolls --> profit : -397 tokens! Not weird... Not weird at all... "0% house edge": |
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