Is Damelon still here? The OP should be updated. It still speaks about the "testnet" and the Ardor snapshot (yes, the one that occurred in 2016) and thus is outdated for almost a year ... Otherwise, another team member (or a "stable" community member) should start a new thread.
(PS: It would also be cool to change the thread title, adding something like "Live now!" etc.)
Yes, I am still here, but no longer actively involved with the project. After I left Jelurida after I helped set it up (more on that here: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/damelon-status-update/msg230305/#msg230305) I pretty soon handed over my remaining tasks to Travin Keith (also known as Marenkar). This thread has not been maintained by me since then, while it was still being used as the main thread. I agree that needs to change (as it makes sense), maybe into the hands of someone from ANG or Jelurida. I have since started my own educational company and really do not have the time to put in the time the thread needs and deserves. It is pretty awesome the project has so much traction now, and it should have a spiffy new place for information that is not linked to me.  |
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username: Damelon
Thank you.
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Hello,
My name is Bas Wisselink from Amsterdam.
Some people may know me from the Nxt/Ardor community and the Bitcoin Wednesdays in Amsterdam (which we sponsor with the Nxt Foundation).
I am also co-founder of Blockchain Workspace, a training company and collaboration space initiator in Amsterdam.
I am one of the early sponsors of the projects, way back in 2014 (are we that old?!) and have been asked by the team to act as one of their advisors.
I just wanted to say "hi" to everyone. I am happy that the project is doing so well and is reaching another milestone. I love projects that take their time to do things right, instead of rushing head first into something.
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Something seems tom be boiling.... Ardor very jumpy today!
Expect some news soon Devs are working their arses off for Testnet so people can finally start playing around and finding the inevitable bugs and glitches. You're all invited to the "Let's try to mess up this new piece of software" party  |
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After discussions and outreach, we are happy to announce the escrow providers for the first ICO round. We will be using a 5/6 escrow for this round with 3 escrow service providers and the 3 Adel Board members. Here they are by order of acceptance: 1) Konstantin Gladych (Gladkos) - Head of Changelly2) Bas Wisselink (Damelon) - Co-founder of Blockchain Workspace3) Khaoudy Yassin (Yassinnxt/Yassinkomodo/Yassin54) - Popular Escrow Service Provider with Approximately 2700 BTC Escrowed - Confirmation TweetI will be updating this post with links to confirmations by them once they have done so. I can also confirm I will be escrow for the Adel ICO. https://twitter.com/DamelonNxt/status/826112875924226048 |
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Ardor vs Nxt functional comparisonSource: https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/ardor-vs-nxt-functional-comparison/| Functionality | Nxt | Ardor | | Blockchains | Single chain | One parent chain with multiple child chains | | Transaction tokens | The same token (NXT) is used for establishing the consensus and providing the security of the blockchain, as well as for the basic unit of value in all transactions | Only the parent chain token (ARDR) is used in the proof-of-stake consensus, and thus provides security for all child chains. Child chain tokens are used as transactional units of value only. | | Transaction fees | Transaction fees are paid in NXT only, requiring users to always have NXT in their accounts. | On each chain transaction fees are paid in the native token (coin) of that chain. End users do not need to own ARDR tokens. | | Features | Asset Exchange, Monetary System, Aliases, Messaging, Digital Goods Store, Voting System, Shuffling, Data Cloud, Phasing, Account Control, Account Properties | All these features are preserved in Ardor, and are available on each child chain. A child chain can optionally be restricted not to enable some features. The parent chain supports a limited subset of features, as it is intended to be used for consensus establishing only and not for everyday transactions. | | Accounts | Each passphrase maps to a single account. Passphrases can't be changed, and there is no wallet file to store. | The same mapping of passphrases to account numbers is used as in Nxt. Accounts are global across all child chains, and an account can have balances in each of the existing child chain coins, as well as in ARDR. | | Holdings | There is a single coin (NXT), and unlimited user-issued Assets and Monetary System currencies. | Each chain has its own coin. Assets and MS currencies can be issued on any child chain, and are available for trading globally. Assets or MS currencies can optionally be restricted* to some child chains only. | | Trading | Assets and MS currencies can be traded for NXT only. | Assets and MS currencies can be traded on any child chain, with price denominated in the corresponding child chain coin. | | Coin Exchange | N/A | A new feature, Coin Exchange, allows trading of child chain coins to each other, and also to the parent chain coin (ARDR). | | Dividends | Asset dividends can be paid in NXT only. | Asset dividends can be paid in any of the child chain coins, by simply issuing the payment transaction on the corresponding chain. Additionally, paying dividends in another Asset or in MS currency has been implemented. | | Crowdfunding | Crowdfunding feature is available in the Monetary System, but the funds must be collected in NXT only. | Crowdfunding feature is available on all child chains, and on each child chain the funds are collected in the corresponding child chain coin. | | Shuffling | Shuffling of NXT, Assets, and MS currencies is available. | On each child chain, shuffling of the corresponding coin, or any Asset or MS Currency, is supported. | | Aliases | Alias names are globally unique. | Alias names are unique within each child chain only. | | MS Currencies | Currency codes and names are globally unique. | Currency codes and names are unique within a child chain only. | | Pruning | Pruning is available for plain and encrypted messages, and for tagged data (data cloud feature). Pruned data are retrieved automatically on demand from designated archival nodes. | Pruning and retrieving of all prunable data is available as in Nxt. In addition, the child chain transactions themselves are designed to be prunable and will not need to be stored permanently or re-downloaded by every new node. The actual pruning of transactions will be implemented later.* | | Transaction identifiers | Transaction IDs are 64-bit longs, and are globally unique. | The 64-bit transaction IDs are no longer guaranteed to be globally unique for child chains. 256-bit transaction hashes (sha256 digests) are used instead as transaction identifiers. | | Block generation | A "forging" process is used to create new blocks, with the probability of block creation dependent on the account NXT balance (stake). | The same forging algorithm is used as in Nxt, dependent on ARDR account balances only. | | Bundling | N/A | A new process, "bundling", is used to group child chain transactions into a parent chain transaction ("child chain block"), which is then included in the parent chain. Any account can play the role of a bundler. The bundling process also performs the exchange of fees paid by users in child chain tokens into ARDR fees accepted by the block forgers. | | Phasing | Transaction execution can be made conditional, subject to approval using various voting models. | Same voting models as in Nxt, but phasing is possible on child chains only. Approval transactions can be on a different child chain from the phased transaction, and the by-transaction voting model also supports linking to a transaction hash on a different child chain. | | Account control | Accounts can be restricted to use phasing only (mandatory approval). | Same as in Nxt, but accounts under phasing-only restriction cannot submit transactions on the parent chain, as those cannot be phased. | | Peer networking | HTTP based, also with WebSocket support, transmitting JSON formatted data between peers. | Completely re-written and optimized, using native Java sockets and binary messages between peers. Block and transaction propagation has been significantly improved, by exchanging and caching information about currently available blocks and transactions between peers and only propagating the missing data pieces. | | API | HTTP query APIs, returning JSON formatted response. | Mostly unchanged, except:
1. A "chain" parameter has been added to each API that is child chain specific.
2. 64-bit long transaction IDs have been replaced with 256-bit hashes.
3. All prices and rates that were previously defined relative to the smallest indivisible holding amount ("QNT") are now defined relative to a unit of the holding (share). | | Scalability | Transactions are stored in the blockchain permanently, and need to be re-downloaded and re-processed by every new node, which after months and years of operation becomes a significant bottleneck. | All child chain transactions will be possible to prune completely, without affecting blockchain security, thus allowing the blockchain size to be kept much smaller. A new node joining the network only needs to download the parent chain transactions, followed by the latest snapshot of the current system state.* |
* Functionallity marked with asterisk is planned to be implemented in a future Ardor release. All other functionallity is already implemented and currently being tested on a testnet blockchain.
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Here are some teasers for the screens for the Coin Exchange (Exchange tokens against other tokens) and a preview of the Bundlers' dialog: Coin Exchange Bundlers' Dialog |
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UPDATEAfter talking to the Core Devs, it turns out to be a NEW feature that was added to Ardor: Coin Exchange, that allows trading one child chain token for another or to Ardor.What I was describing was the means to do all this by Assets, but apparently they pulled another rabbit out of their hats.
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Ardor will allow payment providers to use its Assets to trade currencies over multiple chains. Assets on Ardor are GLOBAL, which means you can trade them across all child chains. When properly set up (and it's easy to do so) you can use Asset tokens to represent another currency (BTC, EUR, USD, NXT, ETH, whatever) and trade them using Ardors AE. You can then manage currency trades and payments on each chain with these Asset Tokens. Anyone who wants to set this up or use Ardor in this way can contact me. We will help out first movers with bootstrapping.   |
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How Nxt and Ardor are related? When you're saying Nxt 2.0 is coming you actually mean that Ardor is coming, which is improved Nxt or you mean Nxt will be upgraded to 2.0 version? Ardor is based on Nxt, sharing much of its code, but implementing some new features. You can read more about it here: https://nxt.org/announcing-ardor/"Nxt 2.0" was the first name given to it, but eventually it was renamed "Ardor" to make clear it is not making Nxt obsolete and it's not going to replace it. Ardor solves specific issues with scalability and flexibility, but Nxt is still being developed and will continue to be so. Over the last months, the devs have released several updates, and more are planned. Nxt and Ardor occupy different niches and are not competing directly. There is overlap, but not completely and we are very actively pitching Nxt to businesses. |
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It's been a while, but our developers are hard at work. We are expecting a testnet version to be out in Q1 2017 so we can begin the process of moving towards a mainnet version later this year. Here are some *very* preliminary pics of the client.   Of course, pretty pics are not enough. We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the project is coming along at a good pace. Apart from all this, we are looking to the future of both Nxt and Ardor by having incorporated into Jelurida B.V. The new website is up, so we invite you to have a look. It's a first version, so expect changes there, too.  http://jelurida.com/As you can see, we are going for a community/commercial model in software, which has shown itself to be an effective way to balance community stakes with the need for the team to also make a living. In this way, we are aiming for a long term company to make software for public use as well as being able to do so safely for ourselves. |
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It's been a while, but our developers are hard at work. We are expecting a testnet version to be out in Q1 2017 so we can begin the process of moving towards a mainnet version later this year. Here are some *very* preliminary pics of the client. Of course, pretty pics are not enough. We just wanted to give you all a heads up that the project is coming along at a good pace. Apart from all this, we are looking to the future of both Nxt and Ardor by having incorporated into Jelurida B.V. The new website is up, so we invite you to have a look. It's a first version, so expect changes there, too. http://jelurida.com/As you can see, we are going for a community/commercial model in software, which has shown itself to be an effective way to balance community stakes with the need for the team to also make a living. In this way, we are aiming for a long term company to make software for public use as well as being able to do so safely for ourselves. |
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Got my wallet linked. Smooth process and thanks to hermesesus for the extremely helpful Trezor tutorial! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg17114185#msg17114185I've been following Byteball since the start and I must say I enjoy seeing a calm dev and thoughtful dev for a change, not to mention the measured pace at which things are progressing. I am very much looking forward to seeing the project progress and wish you the best for the coming time |
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Ah the magic of basic, simple math mixed with a bit of critical thinking!
Suspicious thinking does not equal critical thinking, however much you may try to relabel it. I've always been very open about my Nxt holdings. I held about 1,000,000 Nxt during the snapshot period, all from my stipend for the TNSSE Project, which i managed to save. I hold the same in ARDR now. https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(tnnse)-accounts/I also hold about 500,000 in Assets (mainly DeBuNe, Supernet and MGW Assets). This amounts to totally a lot less than your 7000 BTC. Of course, you will claim I have "secret" accounts. There's no defending against that, and that's where I cannot help you, as they are obviously so secret even I do not know them, more's the pity. You present as *FACTS* relational data. There's always a huge *IF* involved that you tend to skip over really quickly. While it is *TRUE* that *IF* I held 1000 BTC it would have appreciated, it's not a *FACT* that I have them, primarily for the reason that the first step in your chain of "logic" is *UNTRUE*. Logic is indeed a wonderful thing. |
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Announcing Jelurida!The Nxt development team, creators of the advanced and feature-rich blockchain Nxt, and designers of the upcoming and ground-breaking Ardor platform, are excited to announce the incorporation of Jelurida BV, a new start-up headquartered in the Netherlands. Jelurida BV has been incorporated to protect the Intellectual Property rights of the Nxt Core Development team with respect to the Nxt, and, soon, Ardor, code. Jelurida BV, as holder of the intellectual property rights for the Nxt software and the Ardor platform, aims to create a sustainable and thriving business around the Nxt ecosystem by providing software licenses, maintenance, and services to a new breed of blockchain-based applications. By establishing Jelurida BV, we simplify this process by allowing the company to act on behalf of the core developers. The incorporation of Jelurida BV addresses a growing need of the blockchain industry to provide solutions for use in corporate environments and is targeted at creating a sustainable business model which will benefit the Nxt community in various ways such as a brand identification as well as a further statement to the integrity of the code. This will further encourage projects to consider using the Nxt and Ardor blockchains for their needs and thus increase their overall usage. Jelurida will continue to release the Nxt software under the open source GPLv2 license, making it available for free use and modifications as long as any derived software is published under this same open source license. Press contact: Bas Wisselink ( info@jelurida.com) https://nxt.org/introducing-jelurida/
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