It starts by not advertising a service you don't trust. And if you do trust it, you can just use it. Why would you recommend others to use something you wouldn't trust with your own money? LoyceV, are you using Agora Desk exchange?  In perfect situation it would be best to advertise only services we use, but that is not happening always. I dont think this is happening in real world outside bitcointalk, people advertise lot of junk all the time because someone pays them to make youtube video for that product ot service. I hear that manager who managed whirlwind campaign quickly refunded loses to bitcointalk members who participated in campaign, well done. decodx is there any chance for you to get your coins back? |
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Flag supported. I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do  I think I saw jamyr writing in Gambling board before, but like I said yesterday - sadly this forum is full of scammers and cheaters who are waiting to stab someone in back  He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.
This was 3 days ago, he was online but didnt reply anything. He can still fix things if he returns money. |
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I was one of those members. I doubt anyone left because they were feeling a scam… most, myself included, moved to MixTum because they had a better deal.
I hope this turns out better for you, but it is another mixer so be careful  If they decided to leave those 40k, wouldn't that mean that people deposited more than that + what sig campaign members didn't withdraw? If not, then it would make more sense to pay out everyone what is owed and take that 40k.
I dont think they planed exit scam from start, but things didnt go exactly how they expected and they didnt have enough patients to wait. It is naive to think that any business can be profitable and gain huge popularity in anything in few months up to a year. And who knows, maybe they do come back at some point, that would be interesting to see. I was deceptioned, indeed, by the fact that they stopped replying to my emails for more than a month; by the fact that I had some days when the daily reward was not paid anymore (not even later through a compensation); and by the fact that they never came with that report I requested for the period of May 17th - June 14th, in order to check in how many of those days I actually received the reward.
Strange how only a few people noticed they simply vanished from forum several months ago. This is first alarm that something is not right, than email reply problems, rewards, and now nothing works except depositing. |
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I just can't bet against Sterling in this match up, and he's at better odds than I was expecting; 1.40. Probably, due to Sean being a fan favourite, and a lot of the fans are backing him to win. I think he prefers decently well in the stand up, but Sterling at any point could decided to take it down to the mat, and I think he gets the submission pretty early into that. I'd say the safest bet is the double chance DEC/SUB, however I wouldn't rule out a TKO either.
I think O'Malley has a decent chances to win in this fight and maybe do it in a KO win style, so I placed my bet on him, lets see if I was wrong. Aljamain Sterling is a good fighter but I think he sometimes acts to arrogant and someone needs to bring him back to earth a little, maybe O'Malley is best candidate for that. I dont know when UFC started doing Tournament Championship fights, but they slowly started to copy PFL, I can see two fights like this in Prelims |
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It is now possible to change the color of the text using the parameter hex and to change the font weight using bold
This looks so much better with bold text! It is a small change but it makes a huge difference in visibility and it is very clear to see. I think all the numbers in Withdrawal Fees Table would look better bold, but color can stay the same like it is now. |
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Leeds - West BromChampionship round 3 is starting today with big match between Leeds and West Brom. Leeds still dont have a win in this season after losing last round against Birmingham, and had draw in first round against Cardiff. West Brom has 3 points so far and they all came from last week win against Swansea, so this match is very important for both clubs. Bookmakers made Leeds a favorite because of home advantage, but I think we can see a draw or surprise away win today. Leeds have good H2H record against West Brom, but they dont perform great as favorites and they have few important players questionable for today. My Bet: Double Chance X2 https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/england/championship/leeds-united-v-west-bromwich-albion-64d06eeab3c6960001377c6aRest of the matches are played in Saturday and Sunday so I will try to post my predictions tomorrow. Remember to be careful with stakes you place in first few rounds of Championship. Leeds - West Brom Plymouth - Southampton Blackburn - Hull Bristol City - Birmingham Leicester - Cardiff Middlesbrough - Huddersfield QPR - Ipswich Sheffield Wed - Preston Stoke - Watford Sunderland - Rotherham Swansea - Coventry Norwich - Millwall
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Alas, I must go my best, last season I was above safety line, and didn't get any joy across all pools. For once in a while, I'm in a good position and must return my misery many-fold to my friends. Who needs enemies with friends like us?  Oh no man dont be so cruel with me and dont kick me out of Cup, this was my last hope  I see now you are leading 2:0 after four questions and you can feel the winds of victory, maybe I expected a lot from Australia as underdog. You were better this time, congratulations and good luck in next round. We have the first 2 Cup quarterfinalists, it is some unknown teams buwaytress and Igebotz. They will probably get knocked out soon.
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Prediction 2: $26,331.07
bech32 address: bc1qdsrr2sxt8kfjw0rd9yzlw7twk7n8ehq5lh5h6s
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okay... first of all you can't just say P-word, because people are going to think i called the dude a pu$$y.. which is much worse than what i did call him, which was a pen1$..
and the dude made two posts, rambling on and on while repeatidly using a word that stirs up fear. all the while never connecting any dots or making sense.
How is pu$$y worse than pen1$? Not to me it isnt They can always go back in post history and see what you wrote, with me criticizing you after that, and you said sorry to him. Better deal with it like gentleman, this forum has good members, but it is full with bots, cheaters and scammers trying to catch a pray. you're always welcome back btw. i'll beat their rate. Thanks. I will seriously think about your offer. Let us get back on topic. l0tt0 has no minimum withdraw amount, and charges only bitcoin transaction fees. Waiting for monsignor Pmalek to test and update. |
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i'm nice all the time.
Nobody can be nice all the time, but maybe you are trying. I can remember recent time when you called another member a P-word just because you didnt like what he said. But I appreciate what you are trying to do with your l0tt0 website, and you have been fair towards me, I have no complains and I like games on your website. That is why I suggested adding l0tt0 here even after I switched my signature campaign, but this can all change quickly |
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When you take part in some campaign you agree with its rules or not participate. So it's incorrect saying that way of receiving payments was against the will of participants. If it was just made only now, then it could be discussible, but it was for weeks, everyone who didn't want to risk could exit campaign for that time. You just decided to write something smart right? Before reading carefully what other people wrote This campaign didnt start with paying IOU notes from start, this was later changed and I dont know by whos initiative and what was the reason for doing this. If this is true, then I think that 12% made them promote the service almost for free, as I think that most of the participants did not withdraw their currencies, but on the contrary, some may be greedy to deposit more.
I dont know if there is any way to prove this theory, but it is possible. This is all done by stealing money from other people. The fact that no one (afaik) left campaign after notes introduction says a lot. Some members left campaign recently, maybe they had a feeling something is not right. |
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I can't remember when exactly, but I personally didn't complain because those were the terms of the campaign so if you don't like it, what you can do is to leave the campaign (I doubt that there would be expection for those who complained) and on top of that I've been in a campaign before where I wasn't paid directly to my wallet (Bustadice) and never had any issues. Lesson learned I guess.
If everyone or majority of members complained than it would not be possible for anyone to force this changes. All participant share small responsibility for keeping quiet, and I would not agree on this terms myself if I was in that position. But it is easy for me to be general now when battle is over I wish luck to everyone and I hope you get back coins you earned fair. |
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You didn't withdraw any of your ww signature campaign earnings? Damn, and I thought me holding 5 weeks of signature campaign money (+last week's earning that no one can withdraw) was a bad move... 6 weeks is not huge amount of money for most people but I bet it still hurts to get screwed like this. This is worse than having your money stuck in exchange or gambling website. Of course we would choose getting the money directly into our own wallets instead this note system.
When was this IOU notes change introduced and why nobody complained to campaign manager? Also, I had faith in the campaign manager.
This is something that I should be more careful about in the future: as I cannot claim Hhampuz responsible for anything, also I cannot think WW we're to be trusted because it has a campaign managed by Hhampuz.
This is the main problem and main reason why people trusted this service more. When my money was confiscated from one gambling website, that same manager defended them and refused to stay on my side, and I have nothing personal against him. Lesson learned for all of us. |
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There's an ongoing discussion on their ANN about considering using funds escrowed by MJ to compensate what's lost by this... incident, but I think [if the idea is approved] the priority should be compensate those who deposited on whirlwind first, and later on to the campaign participants No, I dont think so. First people who need to get refunded is campaign participants because they received payments from manager in IOU notes against their will. I am sure most of them would choose to get paid directly in Bitcoin and later deposit to earn more rewards if they want. People who sent their own money for mixing did it on their own risk, but everyone needs to get refunded if possible. I tested the service indipendently and it worked. I was holding my campaign rewards on the website, and just when I ended the campaign all the drama started. Horrible timing.
After what happened to whirlwind and chipmixer I will think very good before advertising any mixer in my signature. |
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I will support flag against them, but I still have small hope they will return coins, and they still have time to fix damages they made. Now that you mention it: Do signature campaigns that pay in "IOUs" even belong on the Services board? Or should they be moved to the Altcoin board?
I think campaign manager should be responsible for supporting this. I dont know who came up with that stupid idea to pay campaign participants with worthless IOU notes, but this only helped whirlwind exit scam easier. Is there any way for members to get paid for their loses if they can prove they have coins stuck in whirlwind? I participated in a few campaign where the payout was paid in the advertised service. I never had a problem with that and I was used to keep the stash on that for this exact reason. Of course I had a small fortune in WW, but it is another lesson learned.
Did you send your own coins or it was from payments in signature campaign? I hope you can get refunded for your loses. |
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It's the first time I hear of l0tt0 to be honest. Despite the name, I expected a full fledged casino, but turns out it's a simple lotto site with 3-4 lotto games. Judging by their announcement thread in the gambling section, they have been around for around 2 months. If I remember them the next time I add new casinos to the table, I will add them, why not.
Yes they started few months ago and I used them several times, everything worked much faster than with betnomi Few days ago they completed update and erased all my betting history with new system so I dont remember how much are withdrawal fees for Bitcoin, but I think they only charged transaction fees. Maybe you can ask dewez for more info, he is a owner, developer and a nice guy most of the times, except when he is tired Edit: I talked with devez today: no min.. withdraw fees are transaction fees.
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11. Aljamain Sterling
10. Zhang Weili
9. Ian Machado Garry
8. Da'Mon Blackshear
7. Marlon Vera
6. Brad Tavares
5. Gregory Rodrigues
4. Kurt Holobaugh
3. Andre Petroski
2. Andrea Lee
1. Karine Silva
NOT go the Full Distance 7
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I am aware of the situation regarding Betnomi, their unavailability, and what looks like an exit scam. Unless they post an update by the end of this month, I will remove them from my list. The site is currently offline, meaning there is no danger for new users to sign up and deposit coins.
I think you dont have to wait for the end of month for them to come back to remove betnomi website. Website is not working at all and there is low chances they will ever come back, even if they do come back they will have everything different including withdrawal fees. Maybe you can think about adding new l0tt0 website in future, they are new but I like what they are doing with their games: https://www.l0tt0.com/ |
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Are there sites where you can actually withdraw coins? I mean gambling sites.
I dont understand what do you wanted to say, but most faucets are not real gambling websites. You can withdraw coins from all legit gambling websites, except scam phishing fake websites, but most of them have minimum withdrawal amount. Some casinos have low limits and others have high, but for more information you can check topic from one bitcointalk member Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0 |
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