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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 18, 2018, 03:57:43 PM
Oh its was nice to be a part of this team hopefully we hit our goal at the mean time but much better if we hit the hard cap

Surely hard cap will be reached because Kamagames has an amazing pack of casino games in its portfolio. These games generate a lot of sales ($57.5M per year) + sales are growing each year.

Yes, kamagames had already allocated 13.5M and as far as I see its promo campaign is just increasing its power. FB adv, bounty, etc. are growing. Hype is increasing with great capacity.
682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 18, 2018, 09:26:31 AM
Kamagames porfolio makes the huge popularity across the world.as we can see the innovation is well developed.. keep up the good work team..
but I don't see them at Coinmarketcap, the information published about the Kamagames Tokens is very small, where are the kamagames exchangers? and what is the price of this token? maybe some people don't know that

Kamagames KGT tokens are not issued yet. They will be issued after Token Sale and allocated among contributors. And for information: Coinmarketcap lists only tokens which are traded on two (at least two) exchanges.
KGT will only be tradable on their own site where are players are in.

I would say exchangeable (not tradable) because you could not sell KGT on Kamagames side. Instead, you could exchange KGT to in-game virtual currency (chips) on Kamagames side (application).
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty Campaigns on: October 18, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
What is the recommended time frame for a bounty campaigns?

If you are going to run token sale (ICO) the best time to start bounty is 2 months before the start of pre-sale.

If you are (a hunter) going to participate in bounty then it does not matter when to start.
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TOKPIE] Makes your Dreams Real 💣[Bounty Stakes Trading]💣 on: October 17, 2018, 03:06:58 PM
Hopefully in the near future you are going to add more bounty partners on your platform.
But please only the legit ones.
I've sold few of my stakes and its a quick trade there.
Do you have plans of converting stakes into btc?

Yes, we are looking for new reliable projects to list more different bounty stakes for our investors.
And yes, we plan to add more 'quote cryptocurrencies' available for exchange in the future (incl btc).
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 17, 2018, 08:38:36 AM
The team has good track record looking professional there is room of growth for this business in future. Blockchain is very hot tech for online gambling business than they will make space and this will provide nice services in future good luck for successful future.

The point is that Kamagames will not apply blockchain to online gaming processes to avoid its lack of efficiency, speed, and stability. Instead, the company had certified its Random Number Generator(RNG) used in all games to ensure players that everything works in an honest manner.


686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Creator, NYU Economist Go to War On Twitter, Mull Public Debate on: October 17, 2018, 08:07:43 AM
Roubini is a typical representative of classic economics science. He will never accept crypto.

Roubini is like traditional scientists who deny the possibility of voyages across the Atlantic Ocean, and
Vitalik is like Christopher Columbus who finally cross the Atlantic Ocean but also was wrong regarding distances and lands (he thought he is reaching Asia=)

687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 17, 2018, 07:59:08 AM
GamesForum held at the Bell Harbour Conference Centre in Seattle will be mostly relating to b2b sector of the mobile game industry.
Fortunately, Kamagames has a unique B2B-platform.  The company provides the world’s only B2B platform for social casino games offering access to significant player liquidity and a variety of quality product
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 16, 2018, 12:47:33 PM
Only weeks left in the KamaGames Token sale
Read more about it: https://www.kamagames.io/news/OpenSale

Yes, and half of the hard cap is already reached! Then your team attendance of all main conferences gives its output. What are the next meetups you are going to visit?
689  Local / Бayнти и aиpдpoпы / Re: 🔷🔷🔷🔷 ЭФИР за баунти стэйки СРАЗУ 🔷🔷🔷🔷 on: October 16, 2018, 11:20:12 AM
Очень крутая тема, хочу в ней попробовать поучаствовать. Smiley

 С вашим рангом вы в данный момент можете только в FB и TW поучаствовать ну или подождать листинга новых баунти стэйков (по другим проектам) где будут разнообразные bounty activity (medium, reddit, video и тд)
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TOKPIE] Makes your Dreams Real 💣[Bounty Stakes Trading]💣 on: October 16, 2018, 09:03:01 AM
Great opportunity for bountyhunters won't be scammed and get paid for the job.

Yes, indeed it's a unique opportunity. Never before hunters could earn ETH immediately after performing FB, TW, and other bounty tasks.
By the way, TOKPIE team choose and list bounty stakes of only highly reliable projects (ICOs/token sales).
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 15, 2018, 05:08:33 PM
On this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJtKD4vmno
Kamagames explains how its KGT tokens could be used by their holders. The concept of the token is simple: KGT will combine gaming and crypto principles.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / 💣💣💣 [TOKPIE] Makes your Dream Real 💣💣💣[Bounty Stakes Trading]💣💣💣 on: October 15, 2018, 03:51:28 PM
              

 
 
  

1. Did you ever dream to get ‘CASH’ immediately when bounty stakes earned + tokens of reliable projects later?


2. Did you ever dream to get 10x on your crypto investments?


3. Did you ever dream to Incredibly Boost your Token Sale?


If you reply “yes” to any of the above questions then you should definitely read this thread to know how TOKPIE makes your dream real!

If you don’t have time to read, just choose from the following options:

(1) Want to earn and get Ethereum every day on a regular basis (not mining, not faucet);
(2) Want to get many 10x on investments;
(3) Want to Boost my token sale, ICO/STO.

Otherwise, Let’s go to details:


       


   









TOKPIE exchange has successfully launched its unique service:



BOUNTY STAKES TRADING


WHAT IS IT

Bounty Stakes Trading is the revolution in bounty common practice and more!
It allows bounty hunters to get both: ‘cash’ immediately after performing any kind of bounty activities + tokens later.
It helps investors to get 10x ROI by obtaining promising tokens with the huge discount, instead of waiting for upward spikes.
It’s so obvious & simple that cannot be true, but it’s true and already working thanks to the TOKPIE exchange.


WHAT PROBLEM IT SOLVES

Bounty hunters problems:
- High risk of a Token Sale fail and getting zero reward
- Have to wait about 4-7 months to get cash for hard working

Investors problems:
- Low chances to make any profit on investments
- High risk of a Token Sale fail.

Startups (ICOs) problems:
- Low hype around the Token Sale
- Token price dump when exchange.


HOW IT WORKS
Check how Bounty Stake Trading works in real-life.

1. TOKPIE lists the related bounty stakes titles, after partnering with a Startup (ICO)
2. All hunters participating in a Startup (ICO) bounty campaign receive the ability to
deposit part of the stakes immediately as they earned on TOKPIE
3. Bounty hunters & investors/traders get the ability to trade deposited stakes for ETH
or keep them until execution
4. TOKPIE converts bounty stakes to related tokens when bounty campaign is over.
The result, every stakeholder gets tokens on its account on TOKPIE.  


ADVANTAGES

Bounty hunters:
* SELL part of your Bounty Stakes for ETH immediately as soon as they earned
* No need to wait 4-7 months or longer to be rewarded with 'cash' (ETH)
* Get ETH instantly + tokens later!

Investors:
* No need to wait for upward token growth to get 10x, just try to buy it 10 times cheaper!
* Minimize the possible damage caused by Token Sale fail or price damp by obtaining tokens for 'penny'


Startups (ICOs):
* BOOST bounty campaign and tokens sale of your project (ICO) not changing your bounty pool size!
* Grow Community and number of token holders
* Decrease price dump when a token goes to exchange on 50%!  
* FREE Token listing on TOKPIE exchange when a bounty is over
  

FAQ

Q: Can I try Bounty Stakes Trading right now?
A: Yes you can sell and buy bounty stake right now


Q: What is the TOKPIE?
A: TOKPIE is the new crypto exchange that penetrates the market by providing a unique Bounty Stake Trading service to hunters and early investors.

Q: I have questions. Where can I ask them?
A: You can post your questions here or ask them on TOKPIE telegram group.




                           


Previous Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253647.0
693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 14, 2018, 09:22:54 PM
You can easily simulate the situation in which KamaGames captures new markets (for example, Asia), the number of players is growing, everyone needs tokens. In this case, the value of tokens will increase greatly.

The most exciting except growing the number of players is the rule about burning KGT. As it declared in the WP, KGT tokens, after being exchanged into chips, are no longer valid and will be “burned”(removed from the circulation).


You don't count the fact that in-game chips are not being removed from circulation. For example, you exchange your KGT to chips and play, someone finally will win all your chips the result this lucky man don't need to buy chips (or KGT).  

Good point! So only the exponential growth of kamagames players could absorb inflation of in-game chips. Or maybe we don't know everything about game process. Maybe players pay some commision (nominated in chips) to get access to "the table".

Surely there are commissions otherwise Kamagames could not generate even dollar of profit because chips would circulate from player to player and no one buy new chips except a new player. So the crucial fact for KGT future success is the number of new players engaged.
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 14, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
You can easily simulate the situation in which KamaGames captures new markets (for example, Asia), the number of players is growing, everyone needs tokens. In this case, the value of tokens will increase greatly.

The most exciting except growing the number of players is the rule about burning KGT. As it declared in the WP, KGT tokens, after being exchanged into chips, are no longer valid and will be “burned”(removed from the circulation).


Yes, you right. So what factors will have the up pressure on the KGT value? Let's count them:
1. Growing number of players will lead to the growth of demand on in-game chips and KGT consequently.
2. The burning of KGT reduce the supply
3. The growing rate of KGT-to-chips exchange until x11 in 36 months.

what else?
695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 14, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?

1. This is not ICO
2. The token sale is needed for marketing not for funds raising (here you are right saying that Kamagames has enough money without a token sale)
3. Why do they need to give free airdrop if they could sell KGT for 1 USD?
4. If you don't play now then a) you may play later if buy KGT or b) you may want to make a gift to your friends who like such types of game or c) you may sell in on dex
Yes nor Token sale for Gamers. They are here to promote their token and ofcourse the back up of all industry the Blockchain Tech under the Smart Contract of Ethereum. But thanks anyways for sharing this.

This is said about the goal of KGT token sale in WP:
"The current annual profit of the company is already very robust and is
unlikely to be adversely affected by the outcome of the planned
KamaGames Token sale. Due to the KamaGames Token sale being
managed by a separate team, it is not expected to influence the overall
company performance, development and market success. However, we
want to offer you an opportunity to buy our in game virtual currency at a
lucrative rate"
The team of KamaGames has stated that it intends to achieve with its Token KGT improve the level of product quality within the online social casino games market. Starting from its Top Pokerist product achieving better interaction with players.

After reading White Paper and paying attention to Roadmap it makes sense to me what it propose with the release of its KGT token.
If anyone has asked, How successful businesses create their products for free for everyone? KamaGames is a model and a good case study.

You're right but why 'for free'? Kamagames uses the typical "freepay" model of monetization its products. Many mobile games developers use it. For example Clash Of Clans game. The principle is simple: you can download the game for free + few chips will be given for free for the start BUT then you shall pay for every additional chip.
696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🎮🎮🎮KAMAGAMES TOKEN SALE | 100M Players | $57M Revenue 🎮🎮🎮 on: October 14, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
I can't understand why they raising money on ICO if they have so big revenue from their games? They have enough money without token sale. They just can distribute tokens through airdrop to players for example if they want to implemente tokens into their games. I don't know why people which don't playing in games need tokens? Or token holders will get some % of profit (like dividents etc.) ?

I guess that the main reason is to sell KGT to players now to persuade these players to continue playing on Pokerist for the next 3 years. If I (a player) have bought KGT then I will not switch to the casino games provided by other developers during next years because the exch rate KGT-to-chips is increasing.  
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you trust ICO Rating sites? on: October 14, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
They seem biased to me. A friend of mine who's doing an ICO told me that they paid 10ETH for 5 quality ratings and that's that! I noticed that some ICOs with good project, team, and good social media presence are struggling with getting good reviews.

With all that said, should it still be a factor to look at when investing in ICO?

Ico rating sites or ICO listing sites or just ICO treckers are all almost useless. The reason is not only in a fact that any 5/5 or 10/10 rate can be bought. There is another reason: a reliable and promising token sale cannot be listed on that trackers because of legal obstacles. Look at Kamagames token sale, the company has $57M revenue, 100M users and 250 people in staff. But because of the "ICO" phrase used in icobench and icorating (major ICO listing sites), Kamagames cannot be listed there. The result many people are just missing the opportunity to contribute to it.
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what's your problem in the bounty? on: October 14, 2018, 01:29:49 PM
The main problem as all of the above people already stated is ZERO reward after 3 months of work or miserable value of tokens after 6 months from a bounty start.
However, there is a solution:

 Bounty hunters can sell 50% of their bounty stakes for ETH as soon as they earned!

To know how it works search TOKPIE exchange on google.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Boxing Legend Manny Pacquiao’s Cryptocurrency Could Launch This Year on: October 14, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
Hm it's interesting but not smth new. Many ICOs are starting (or were started) with some stars as support. One example that I remember was Young Dirty Bastard and his Dirty Coin.
700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Recommend good ICO to invest to on: October 14, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
Guys, do you know any really good ICO where you'd advise to invest? Please, don't advertise your projects here, I'll just accept real recommendations

Look as Kamagames token sale. I am sure that you will not find a company like that. It has 8-year positive history of operations, 100M of paying users, $57M annual revenue.
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