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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 09:51:29 PM
0.75% daily... must be totes legit  Roll Eyes

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What is a Ponzi scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.

Why do Ponzi schemes collapse?
With little or no legitimate earnings, Ponzi schemes require a consistent flow of money from new investors to continue. Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out.

What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?
Many Ponzi schemes share common characteristics. Look for these warning signs:

High investment returns with little or no risk. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and investments yielding higher returns typically involve more risk. Be highly suspicious of any "guaranteed" investment opportunity.

Overly consistent returns. Investment values tend to go up and down over time, especially those offering potentially high returns. Be suspect of an investment that continues to generate regular, positive returns regardless of overall market conditions.

Unregistered investments. Ponzi schemes typically involve investments that have not been registered with the SEC or with state regulators. Registration is important because it provides investors with access to key information about the company's management, products, services, and finances.

Unlicensed sellers. Federal and state securities laws require investment professionals and their firms to be licensed or registered. Most Ponzi schemes involve unlicensed individuals or unregistered firms.
Secretive and/or complex strategies. Avoiding investments you do not understand, or for which you cannot get complete information, is a good rule of thumb.

Issues with paperwork. Do not accept excuses regarding why you cannot review information about an investment in writing. Also, account statement errors and inconsistencies may be signs that funds are not being invested as promised.

Difficulty receiving payments. Be suspicious if you do not receive a payment or have difficulty cashing out your investment. Keep in mind that Ponzi scheme promoters routinely encourage participants to "roll over" investments and sometimes promise returns offering even higher returns on the amount rolled over.


Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 09:35:41 PM
Too good to be true.But something look fishy, If you have a working product already why then include in your roadmap in Q3 of 2018(Launch of Platform). I don't get it , how is a working platfrom need a lunch again. And I think the private sales collected in 2017 should be made available.

Thanks to the early investors, Arbitao has been working for a while and generating regular profits. We are currently trading on 10 of the biggest exchanges and executing arbitrage trades for 671 cryptocurrency pairs. Up to 20k arbitrage trades are being executed on a daily basis.

The capital we will raise through the ICO is not necessary for the launch of the product itself, but nearly all of it will be used to increase the funding to a lot more exchanges and thousands of additional pairs. This will bring tens of thousands of arbitrage opportunities more each day and result in a far greater, regular profits for our investors.

So the financing is necessary for increasing capital on the exchanges and establishing the position of Arbitao as market leader. Of course, part of the funding from the ICO will be used for the development of the infrastructure and introduction of other, more sophisticated arbitrage methods – you can find this information in the white paper.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 06:26:28 PM
I am very interested in your project , I want to become a successful trader, give me a couple of tips on how to get a stable profit from this platform. Is it possible to develop if I invest $100?

If you invest in Arbitao you will get ATAO Coins, with these coins you are able to invest in the investment pools, stake on the wallet etc. In the pool your investment will be locked for a certain period (dependent on the pool) and the algorithm will execute the arbitrage trades automatically. You can withdraw your profits on a daily basis and you dont have to execute any trade by yourself.

If you are interested in "How to profit" with Arbitao check out the following links:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager_EN.pdf
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
I can afford to join a bronze pool, my funds are not so great, but what is the difference from other pools? How soon can I get profit from this and for what period, is there any special calculator? or where can I find more information

Hey! The difference between the pools is the lock up period of your investment and the daily rate! The amount of invested money defines in which pool you will be in!

The timeframe/period related to pools stands for how long your invested starting capital will be locked up. It is locked up because the capital is used for arbitrage trading.

After the specified period is over, you are free to re-invest or withdraw your starting capital. (The daily profits are not locked up and can be re-invested or withdrawn at any time.)

Bronze Pool: Invest: 100$-1000$ Interest Rate: 0.5% per day Locking Period: 240 days

Silver Pool: Invest: 1001$-5000$ Interest Rate: 0.6% per day Locking Period: 190 days

Gold Pool: Invest: 5001$-10000$ Interest Rate: 0.7% per day Locking Period: 150 days

Platinum Pool: Invest: 10000+$ Interest Rate: 0.75% per day Locking Period: 120 days

The calculator you can find on the website: https://www.arbitao.com
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 03:47:46 PM
How did the idea of creating such a large-scale project? I want to invest and would like to know how soon I will be able to get profit from it, whether there are any discounts for investors. I like the ideas of cryptocurrency and I believe this is our future

Generally, arbitrage is a well known method in order to generate profits almost risk free by exploiting price differences between different markets on the same commodity/financial instrument. The CEO and CTO of Arbitao were working in the banking sector before and were already years ago aware of the arbitrage potential. So John (CEO) started to develop with his team the basics of the current algorithm and Karel (CTO) figured out how the infrastructure has to be built in order to exploit automatically the price differences in order to outweigh the market inefficiencies. The prototype was developed and it worked fine on a small scale. However, based on their experience in the old economy/financial markets they spotted this opportunity on crypto market. This is how they went deeper into the crypto market. Afterwards, the algorithm and the infrastructure were aligned to the crypto market and initial investors were found which helped to continue the development. This is how the product was created. After testing the product, the huge potential of the market was even more clear. At this point we realized that the next step we have to focus on is scaling. Now Arbitao wants to accelerate the business development and is searching for additional funds in order to scale the arbitrage system even more (more currencies, exchanges etc.). If you are interested more in the scientific part pls check out following website: https://www.orbatao.com/

The PRE-ICO starts on 1st of July with a discount. After the soft cap is reached it will be possible to start investing in the pools. Profits will be paid out on a daily basis. At the end of the ICO you will be able to withdraw your ATAO Coins and start staking. If you are interested in “How to profit” with Arbitao pls check the One Pager out at: https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 03:35:14 PM
Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Thanks for the feedback, we will follow up to resolve this asap. I sent you a direct message.
New signups are working in general, I'm sorry you encountered a problem.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

The Telegram group is here: https://t.me/arbitaochat
Can I join the Arbitao signature campaign, dev?
Please help me link to apply and codes of Arbitao signature.

Yes you can. Pls follow this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.0
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 03:15:58 PM
Just came across your project on the Internet and would like to know how I can make a profit except trading, for me it is a big risk to lose money if I make a few ETH how soon I can get profit from it?

Hey!
In Arbitao you dont have to trade by yourself. This is done automatically by the algorithm (success rate of 96%). However, if you still feel uncomfortable with it, Arbitao offers other ways too. Just check out the One Pager or Ten Pager for more details:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager_EN.pdf
28  Local / Токены / [ANN] [PRE-ICO] ARBITAO - ДЕЦЕНТРАЛИЗОВАННЫЙ АРБИТРАЖ on: June 15, 2018, 01:11:45 PM



 












29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 11:01:59 AM
I would like to know how to trade and make a profit, if some secret of success, I'm new to this and want to know as much as possible where I can find detailed information or contact someone who has long been versed in this and makes good money.

Arbitao developed a specialized algorithm which is executing arbitrage trades automatically. If you are interested in the project pls check out the website for more info: https://www.arbitao.com

If you are interested generally in arbitrage you can just google it and gain more knowledge about the critical factors for arbitrage trading, markets with biggest spreads etc.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Sorry, maybe I'm asking a stupid question, but I need to know, is your platform legal? and I would like to know all payments occur immediately or after some time. Now it is so difficult to find a really worthwhile platform, but after reading the information on the site I see that the team is perfect and I think there should be no doubt.

We are not allowed to give any legal advisory here. However, it depends on your country and the legislation in general. For example, if you are located in United States of America, North Korea, Cuba, Iran and/or Syria you are not allowed to invest in the ICO. For further information, pls check the Risk Disclaimer, Terms and Conditions and the Disclaimer in the whitepaper. This information you can find here: https://www.arbitao.com/documents
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 09:56:46 AM
hey Smiley interestingly, there are 4 types of pools for investors: bronze, silver, gold and platinum and i can choose the right pool for me . if i understood correctly, the larger my investment, the shorter the term for which the capital is placed
But I wonder why profit in dollars? After all, the prices of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are growing, I have long been watching the course and how is it better for me
Hi, I don't agree with you here. The price of cryptocurrencies is constantly changing. And dollars have been stable lately.I think here everything is thought out when you withdraw funds, they will be converted from U.S. dollar ATAO using the current exchange rate on TAOx and the average price of bitcoin US dollar

Everything said here so far is correct Smiley

If the daily profits were not fixed in USD, you would automatically take more risk due to the more volatile nature of crypto. We decided to implement it like this, so that per default the way of less risk is chosen. However, you can withdraw you profits daily and convert them in any cryptocurrency you like.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 09:35:31 AM
Guys, I have a question, if I ever make money, how much will the Commission for the transaction? and how soon will the funds go to the wallet?I know a lot of blockchain platforms, but all commissions are different.

Hi armchair-84, I'm not sure what you mean with commission? Nothing is charged when you withdraw ATAO from your dashboard to your wallet, except for the blockchain transaction fee, which is very low due to the nature of our PoS consensus mechanism. And for the same reason, it happens in seconds, much faster than Bitcoin.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 15, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Thanks for the feedback, we will follow up to resolve this asap. I sent you a direct message.
New signups are working in general, I'm sorry you encountered a problem.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

The Telegram group is here: https://t.me/arbitaochat
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 07:11:56 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

That's very impressive idea, guaranteed stable profit is what were are aiming for every traders and investors.  Knowing this kind of very realistic and profitable trading investment will surely create a big market for the coming months.  Continue to be active on the thread (dev team)  to satisfy the potential investors and traders queries. I have one question, will still both parties gain profit if the market is dump?

Yes, as we do not speculate on prices. We are exploiting the spreads between exchanges. Furthermore, a certain amount of the funds is stored on few different exchanges, which are traded with certain margins in order to hedge the arbitrage pool capital. With this system Arbitao can ensure that even when the market drops and the value of the arbitrage pool decreases, the loss will be covered by hedging.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 05:17:58 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?

Arbitao will use approximately 80% of the funds for the 10 biggest exchanges and 20% of the funds for the rest. Exactly, the buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently. And from time to time the algorithm is rebalancing the funds of the exchanges. Therefore, we just have to cover the trading fee for the arbitrage trades and for rebalancing the withdrawal/deposit fee. But the rebalancing is not occurring as often as the trades. This means that we are cutting fees as much as possible.

This allocation is reasonable. I would like to try this strategy by myself, but it needs much more investing than ordinary trading. That’s why I liked your platform and probably going to participate.

However, I wonder if it would be possible to estimate my profit. Would be also nice if you had smth like a calculator that could help to predict it approximately Smiley

You can find the Profit Calculator on the website: https://www.arbitao.com/
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / [BOUNTY] ARBITAO - DECENTRALIZING ARBITRAGE on: June 14, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
 



 





















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37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 03:04:38 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?

Arbitao will use approximately 80% of the funds for the 10 biggest exchanges and 20% of the funds for the rest. Exactly, the buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently. And from time to time the algorithm is rebalancing the funds of the exchanges. Therefore, we just have to cover the trading fee for the arbitrage trades and for rebalancing the withdrawal/deposit fee. But the rebalancing is not occurring as often as the trades. This means that we are cutting fees as much as possible.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a well designed ANN thread like this one. This really does look like a serious project, great design, working product and excellent team, seems like this one is a shoe-in for success. Having looked at your website, it doesn't appear that the bounty portal is setup yet? Or will you be running it via a separate bounty thread? In any case, this looks like a great project and I will be following along closely.

Thank you annz423 for the comment. The Bounty will be announced in a separate thread. Currently Arbitao is setting up administrative stuff for it in order to guarantee that all Bounty participants will receive their Coins.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?

Based on a quick glance at Gstar, Arbitao and Gstar are two very different projects with different goals. Gstar seems to be a kind of toolset for traders which should improve the trading experience. Arbitao trades for itself focusing exclusively on arbitrage trading techniques. Your participation as an investor adds to the Arbitao’s growth - and we share the profits. We don't equip you with any trading tools, supporting AI, market analysis and so on.

Yes, Arbitao has private investors who helped to accelerate the development.
Are you going to introduce any instruments that could help to improve trading skills Huh Cheesy


No, Arbitao will not introduce any instruments for trading skill improvement, because it is not a trading platform. Arbitao is spotting arbitrage opportunities and executes them automatically. So users of the platform are benefiting of the automated arbitrage system, which is generating daily profits. On the other hand, the collected funds will be also used for the expansion of the Arbitao business.

The comparison between Gstar and Arbitao is not appropriate, as they are two different products. Arbitao is an automated arbitrage trading platform. This means that arbitrage opportunities are automatically spotted and executed. The user does not have to make any decision on which trade has to be executed. There is also no competition between the users. We are trading as a community.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 14, 2018, 03:00:08 PM
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Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

Wait! This info is incredibly hot! What do you mean? What do you mean and where could I find this information? WP?

Arbitao is securing the profits in USD in order to protect the customers from volatilities. You can find the full answer in Comment #45 or read about it on the website https://www.arbitao.com in the “Why do we secure profits in USD?”
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