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1  Local / 山寨币 / ARBITAO - 去中心化的套利 - 套利交易的新方式 on: July 14, 2018, 02:29:03 PM



 













2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] ARBITAO - DECENTRALIZING ARBITRAGE on: June 18, 2018, 06:01:48 PM
I will follow twitter campaign, and I have filled out the form, do I have to wait for confirmation first via email?


The Coins for the Bounty will be distributed onece per week. This will start on the 24th June. Then you will also receive an email.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 02:57:52 PM
Any aidrop plan for it?

Yes the Bounty is set up. Pls check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4470823.0
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?


The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays. It may result over time in a drop of daily interest – but this is not going to happen soon.

Furthermore, Arbitao does not guarantee fixed rates. They can vary. However, based on the tests Arbitao can currently distribute profits of up to 0.75% per day. However, in this case the customers will be informed.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
I understand the concept of arbitrage platform, but I didn't expect referral system here. I know how it is beneficial for users who invite friends, but what are benefits for you except the community growth?

With this strategy we can reduce our marketing costs. Other ICOs are spending a lot of money on external agencies. We planned it in a different way and are rewarding the community instead of the agencies.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 01:27:02 PM
The project is beautiful, but it’s interesting how the platform will function. Do you feel you allocated enough to maintain stable functionality? As for me one of the most important aspects


Yes, the profits are already covering all variable and fixed costs.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 01:23:17 PM
Do you have any referral programs? I mean could I make some additional profit from a number of users who I will be able to attract

Yes, we have a refferal program. If you want to learn more about how to profit with Arbitao pls check the following document:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] ARBITAO - DECENTRALIZING ARBITRAGE on: June 18, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
Looking promising project. How will we submit proof of participation for bounty? At form there is only one place for twitter bounty link. Each time do we have to fill the form for each tweet or retweet?

The proof of bounty will be done via the google docs. Yes each time you have to fill them out. This makes the process easier for us. In this way we can make sure that everybody is getting their coins.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 12:11:21 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed...Like your style and whitepaper! I like that I can choose the right pool.

Are you sure that you will be able to choose the pool? As I understand it may be choosing randomly when the appropriate amount gathered? Or you just enter the pool you want and wait for guys joining you. I don’t know  Undecided

You can choose in which pool you want to be. It just dependends on your investment. If you want to learn more about it just check out the website: https://www.arbitao.com
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 17, 2018, 11:56:18 PM
Investigate your T&Cs too, seem to be copied from:

https://mfchain.com/tc/

A lot of terms and conditions matches with other ICOs and that does not mean that we are copying them or related to them at all. Yes the wording is same and that's because our team has chosen it and found the best and most accurate statement .. I mean better than writing ourown statements we believe taking a few statements that are written best and not copyright we canuse them too.

 's like an inspiration from them but by no means we are copying them or chasing them.

However, as everything dependend with legal was outsourced, Arbitao will investigate on it. Thank you for the comments.

So... your "team has chosen" or "outsourced", which is it? And why investigate if this is all extra kosher according to you?


We strictly want to have our own written terms and conditions and all the content but our team member copied some parts and gave the explanation which I mentioned, please bear with us and give us 24 hours to answer all your questions, being a fair project we are not going to hide anywhere.
Working for the marketing I cannot make sure if all the content is hand-written or parts are copied, wehave immediately fired him too, apologies for whatever happened.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 11:38:54 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment.


You didn't promise this?
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Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors
Then you don't need investors. You have fully working product which can give you 0.75% daily return. For what do you need $48,000,000?

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We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!

Have you already raised $15M?
If not, how you are operating on 10 exchanges?
Why do you need ICO if you have fully operating project working on 10 exchanges? Trades are in your dashboard, right?
The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays.  It may result over time in a drop of daily interest
What does it mean? If I invest $10000, I won't earn...

...up to $20500+ ?

What now? Can I earn 20500$ or not?




Look at us, we like to build pyramids, but that girl in the front (on the left side) forget how our logo looks like, but that is ok, it still looks like pyramid.

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You didn't promise this?

The 0.75% profit is profit approximation of the system we have created and in general it gave out 0.75% profits but of course there are risks involved and hence we are not promising anything big yet.


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Have you already raised $15M?
If not, how you are operating on 10 exchanges?
Why do you need ICO if you have fully operating project working on 10 exchanges? Trades are in your dashboard, right?

The platform is working because of initial investors and yes arbitao covers 10 exchanges and yes you can check trading history in the dashboard, however we trade on small amounts. To cover all arbitrage opportunities on 10 exchanges and 671 unique pairs (based on daily trade volume and market depth) we need more money on the exhanges.


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What does it mean? If I invest $10000, I won't earn...

Since an investor you must be aware that yes the calculator shows the approximate profits but you may not earn the mentioned profits because the market is volatile and margins are changing every minute.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:52:15 PM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?


The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays.  It may result over time in a drop of daily interest  – but this is not going to happen soon.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
it sounds kinda fishy

There's plenty about this "arbitrage platform" that smells "kinda fishy"....here's just three aspects of it that are atypical of previous scams which pretended to arbitrage.

1) The software is supposedly already successfully running and producing profit for anonymous "private investors".
2) The "Four types of Arbitrage pools" structure is exactly similar to HYIP script "investment opportunities" i.e. invest more, get higher
     return. There is no logic behind this structure for pooled equity trading.
3) Multi level marketing scheme attached.

That's without mentioning the Linkedin profiles, cliched marketing vids, emphasis on "community" blahblah, or the wallet or the internal exchange or the.......

1) At this moment Arbitao can perform a deep, real-time analysis on 10 of the biggest markets and hundreds of pairs. In fact, there are 671 unique pairs on which Arbitao is executing risk-free arbitrage trading.

We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!

This can be easily checked in the history at the Arbitao dashboard.

2) There is a very simple logic behind the pools we created. We wanted to reward those who invest more, with a higher interest rate return – as simple as that. Especially, as the daily interest rates have been calculated with a considerable margin for error.

3) All other ICOs spend millions of dollars on marketing by handing out big parts of their budgets to established marketing agencies. We wanted to do it differently, and decided to empower the Arbitao community with an affiliate program.

Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors and, based on the historical data, we managed to assess what percentage of the profits we can allocate for this affiliate program.



And why do we need a wallet? - Where there’s a coin, a wallet is necessary. But also, in the future, we’re seeking to decentralize the computing power and the wallet will make it possible.

Thanks to the internal exchange investors will be able to withdraw the profits from arbitrage in BTC.
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 17, 2018, 10:34:49 PM
Investigate your T&Cs too, seem to be copied from:

https://mfchain.com/tc/

A lot of terms and conditions matches with other ICOs and that does not mean that we are copying them or related to them at all. Yes the wording is same and that's because our team has chosen it and found the best and most accurate statement .. I mean better than writing ourown statements we believe taking a few statements that are written best and not copyright we canuse them too.

 's like an inspiration from them but by no means we are copying them or chasing them.

However, as everything dependend with legal was outsourced, Arbitao will investigate on it. Thank you for the comments.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:26:07 PM
Hello! Nice to see devs answering community questions, but one thing is not that clear for me. As the speed is crucial you think staking may help you, I read the WP but still despite the detailed description the concept itself is a bit vague. Could you explain it in simple words? Thanks

Arbitao is a platform which finds those risk-free arbitrage opportunities and executes them successfully.

This is already a working product, so I can show you how it’s done.

There are two crucial steps - 1) to spot an existing arbitrage opportunity, and 2) to take advantage of it.

This powerful platform monitors Order Books on numerous exchanges simultaneously, so it knows what’s going on, on every market it covers.

At this moment Arbitao can perform a deep, real-time analysis on 10 of the biggest markets and hundreds of pairs. In fact, there are 671 unique pairs on which Arbitao is executing risk-free arbitrage trading.

We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:24:34 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users Undecided

Arbitao is a proven, working arbitrage system. The speed of execution of the transactions is not and will not be dependent on hashrate.

For the purpose of beating our competition at the speed of execution of arbitrage trades, Arbitao servers are located as close as possible to the servers of the exchanges that the platform is operating on. This smart network architecture lets us become faster than the competitors.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:22:09 PM
I understand that you probably can't just give the full algorithms and code because competitors are over your shoulder Roll Eyes But you need to provide far more transparency since the arbitrage process is automated. No pleasure from working with black box Undecided

The answer to your question is included in the question itself, but we’ll be happy to answer any other questions you may have in the future.
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 17, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
Arbitao's main thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4455437.0

https://static.arbitao.com/wp/Arbitao_Whitepaper_EN.pdf


Okay, I did as you requested per your white paper, hence publicly disclosing my findings below ...

https://icosbull.com/eng/ico/arbidex/whitepaper


That's all the fuckin proof you need. If you still opt to invest in Arbitao like a brainless Investard, don't come crying to us who have proven beyond doubt that Arbitao is a scam outfit.

Bruno

As this part of the whitepaper contains legal matters we have to investigate on this as it was outsourced.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:11:19 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users Undecided

How can hashrate help with trading and arbitrage?

Hashrate will let us process enormous amounts of data which we need for analysis and introduction of new arbitrage strategies.

As we are striving to decentralize the system, we chose this method instead of the cloud solution. Additionally, this means lowering the computing power costs and more opportunity for the Arbitao community to gain profits. So, it’s a win-win situation.

If you are interested more in the scientific part of this, please check out the following website: https://www.orbatao.com/, which is a part of the Arbitao project, and where more publications will soon be added.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 17, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
I understand the concept of arbitrage platform, but I didn't expect referral system here. I know how it is beneficial for users who invite friends, but what are benefits for you except the community growth?

First of all, all other ICOs spend millions of dollars on marketing by handing out big parts of their budgets to established marketing agencies. We wanted to do it differently, and decided to empower the Arbitao community with an affiliate program.

Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors and, based on the historical data, we managed to assess what percentage of the profits we can allocate for this affiliate program.

Our goal is to secure a leading position in the cryptocurrency arbitrage space as soon as possible. To reach this goal, we need sufficient capital in order to deposit enough funds across dozens of exchanges and be able to trade on hundreds and hundreds of currency pairs.

The ultimate goal is that Arbitao can trade thousands of pairs across 100 exchanges.

Now is the perfect time to reach the position of a leader because the crypto market cap is still relatively small. Therefore, really big players, currently operating in the forex market are not yet interested too much in taking it over. Also, dozens of exchanges that are not yet regulated do not seem attractive for traditional investors. 

This, however, will change sooner or later. The market cap is growing year to year and the big players will eventually take interest in it. By that time, Arbitao wants to grow big enough to be able to compete with them.
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