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@Csmiami, I've removed my review and my support of the flag. I wish this situation could have transpired differently, but at least it ended without anyone being hurt. I hope you don't harbor any hard feelings, If I or anyone else had treated a newbie this way, even if he is trying to scam, I would expect the same outcome. Scamming a scammer doesn't make you any different.
I am agree with that. Thank you ever l will be around here in the forum. How can we close this forum, i mean not eliminate just lock for not more messages on this threaths?
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Sounds correct to me.
Welp, life has turned out to be a bitch, and "The minimum withdrawal amount is 0.00030000 BTC". Looks like he is going to get some BTCBTC after all from all this idiotic thread (maybe not getting at all, but I am paying double fees) Succesfully confirmed your payment request for 0.00030000 BTC to 388hFGeoMBFtUr4njtpEiNgUBVsTexUGge.
The payment will be sent out in the next 6 hours.
You may close this page now.
Alright, this is now getting out of hand. I think I have explained the situation the best way I could and that everything has been sorted out, but creating a flag now seems a bit overkill to me ATM... Let me tell you someting this is not because life is a bitch, you need to understand that everything is cause - effect this how the life works once you understand this eveything is more easy. Thank you DarkStar for being good as a judge and thank you for understand in the end Csmiami.
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Right was I was going to propose, to see if you and direwolf would agree that's something reasonable. I believe it is, and I have admitted my mistake (and I think I won't joke around anymore to prevent getting another hot potato like this one)
Resolve the situation and I will remove my negative trust feedback. Send him 0.003 BTC - 0.0027 BTC - one transaction fee Yes, I'm agre with DarkStar, he has a good sense of justice.
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Succesfully confirmed your payment request for 0.00270000 BTC to 388hFGeoMBFtUr4njtpEiNgUBVsTexUGge.
Enjoy your $3 profit Csmiami used Freebitcoin's slow withdraw to return ArmandoComellas's 0.003 BTC (minus tx fees). Freebitcoin's withdraw fees are dynamic, but fees have not hit around 800 sat/byte which would cause a 0.3 mBTC withdraw fee. A reasonable maximum would be around 0.05 mBTC (5000 satoshi), and thus Csmiami pocketed 0.25 mBTC+ (roughly $3 USD with current exchange rates). The 0.05 mBTC figure is a rough estimate based upon a 120 sat/byte fee for next block, though the 'Slow' withdraw option is a batch transaction and the fee charged is likely based off of a future estimate for when the transaction was sent. It would make little sense for any algorithm to assume that 120 sat/byte would last, and a more reasonable guess would be around 0.037 mBTC fee based off of the current charge of 0.034 mBTC. Csmiami is likely doing this with malicious intent - the 'borrower' does not seem to know how Bitcoin fully works as shown in this post, and thus may not know what a reasonable transaction fee would be. It is a small amount, but I consider these actions untrustworthy. Thatīs correct and i think i can learn a lot here on this forum. I will be around here so don't miss me!
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I don't believe you mentioned suchmoon or her suggestion in the PM you sent to me. If you're insinuating suchmoon suggested you let ArmandoComellas twist in the wind for a couple of days before sending his money back, I could see her making a comment like that off the cuff.
Nailed it. Succesfully confirmed your payment request for 0.00270000 BTC to 388hFGeoMBFtUr4njtpEiNgUBVsTexUGge.
The payment will be sent out in the next 6 hours.
You may close this page now. The funds are at my freebitco.in account, and the next slow withdrawal will be in 3 hours. There's some satisfaction in making people like him suffer for a little while Yup, that was actually fun but life goes on... Yes that's correct buddy, life goes on... So l can wait for my funds less the fees comes to my wallet in 3 hours. Im learning a lot from you
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So you are indeed abandoning a deal in the middle of it.... Hey Csmiami, Im still waiting for the funds minus the fees of the transaction. 388hFGeoMBFtUr4njtpEiNgUBVsTexUGge Aqui tienes mi hash.
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Suchmoon suggested another approach though If you are reffering to this: Then send the remaining 0.027 and stop clowning around. I don't think suchmoon believes that's actually gonna happen, and I get the feeling she was being facetious. If you haven't sent ArmandoComellas' funds back to him yet I think it's about time you do. Nope, I think I told you on a PM too; but he suggested something similar to your PM Are we seriously advocating for Csmiami to just steal his money? Say someone buys something from me, and sends me the shipping fee upfront and agrees to pay the rest after they receive the item. Before it's shipped, the buyer realized that they can't actually afford the item for some reason and need to spend their coins on living expenses or whatever. Am I then allowed to keep the shipping fee?
A deal was made, and ArmandoComellas backs out. Csmiami is not damaged by the action of returning their funds. (minus tx fees)
It was not my intention to keep the funds (at least for more than a couple of days). At first I was just really amazed by the whole situation, how absurd everything seemed post after post, repeating the 0.03 for 0.015 each time. It was quite a good way to gain insight on how these people work; because the moment he smelt he could get some blood (or money), he got so focused on it he just didn't really read the posts of his own thread. There could be an argument made to scam a scammer to repay the person they scammed, but as of right now ArmandoComellas has not scammed anyone, and while you could argue that they were likely to scam, thought crimes aren't reasons to steal money. That kind of reminds me of thisMan really you have troubles in your thoughts, you need to take care about this not all people is like you. Remember the Thoughts are the reflection of ourselves (Subconscious). So im just waiting for my money back minus the fees they gonnna charge you. Than you Dude!
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Csmiami is not damaged by the action of returning their funds. (minus tx fees) Csmiami sent me a PM to inform me how this event transpired, and asked what he should do. I suggested the exact same thing quoted above. My statements in this thread are purely in jest, and I hope that was obvious. Of course I would not condone Csmiami keep the funds, or even spend them in any other way regardless how noble the cause. Thank you so much DireWolfM14 again. I think the best thing to solve this is if "CSmiami" return back my money less the fees because the netwok will charge him that fees for the comfirmation.+ Really really thank you bro.
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Are we seriously advocating for Csmiami to just steal his money? Say someone buys something from me, and sends me the shipping fee upfront and agrees to pay the rest after they receive the item. Before it's shipped, the buyer realized that they can't actually afford the item for some reason and need to spend their coins on living expenses or whatever. Am I then allowed to keep the shipping fee?
A deal was made, and ArmandoComellas backs out. Csmiami is not damaged by the action of returning their funds. (minus tx fees)
There could be an argument made to scam a scammer to repay the person they scammed, but as of right now ArmandoComellas has not scammed anyone, and while you could argue that they were likely to scam, thought crimes aren't reasons to steal money.
Thank you so much DarKstar, finally an intelligent comment. I think the best thing to solve this is if "CSmiami" return back my money less the fees because the netwok will charge him that fees for the comfirmation.+ Really really thank you bro.
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LOL! @ArmandoComellas, You just won "The most entertaining fuckstick on bitcointalk today" award. You win absolutely nothing. Don't spend it all in one place.
Hey Csmiami, maybe you should donate the 0.003BTC to Known Alts And Part Time Extortion thread.
Thanks for the award but im still waiting for my money
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So you are indeed abandoning a deal in the middle of it.... Yes, I dont trust you now!
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Hello Guys just o letting you know that Csmiami and i we had a misunderstood, i understood that i f i deposit him 0.003 BTC fist he is gonn aloan me, but he meant 0.03 for 0.15 BTC , but now i already transfer him 0.003 and i told him that maybe he needed more than me and he can keep it and then he suddenly start to asnwer haha.
Whatch out guys even them who they talk to much they can be another person in reality.
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please!
FFS what a clown... Did you really think Csmiami won't notice the extra 0? It was my bad i didnt see that extra 0 (0.003) i dont have the bad intentions as your thoughts coming Then send the remaining 0.027 and stop clowning around. Except your address doesn't even have that much so I doubt you had any intent to follow through on this nonsense to begin with. Thats true i reall y meant 0.03 for 0.015 but its okay if you dont want to send me back my 0.003 BTC just keep it maybe you need it for more than me!!
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please!
FFS what a clown... Did you really think Csmiami won't notice the extra 0? That was kind of the point of this "sociologic experiment on forum scammers"
It was my bad i didnt see that extra 0 (0.003) i dont have the bad intentions as your thoughts coming
Nope, you were the one saying 0.03 on the first place; I did only repeat it several times for you to correct me, or in case you didn't, realize that you really meant 0.03 for 0.015 Thats true i reall y meant 0.03 for 0.015 but its okay if you dont want to send me back my 0.003 BTC just keep it maybe you need it for more than me!!
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please!
FFS what a clown... Did you really think Csmiami won't notice the extra 0? It was my bad i didnt see that extra 0 (0.003) i dont have the bad intentions as your thoughts coming
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please! So you suddenly want to get out of a deal that has been made in public and quoting the ammount of BTC several times? What if now I don't feel like it and want you to maintain your end of the deal? If you dont want to maintain the deal just send me back that 0.003 BTC Ou, but I do indeed feel like maintaining it, so as it has been stated here, you still have to send 0.027BTC before I release your 0.015BTC loan What are you saying brother, that is extortion, you are worst that banks, just give me back that 0.003 BTC if you just dont do it, then you will be shown as the not good man here in this place!
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please! So you suddenly want to get out of a deal that has been made in public and quoting the ammount of BTC several times? What if now I don't feel like it and want you to maintain your end of the deal? If you dont want to maintain the deal just send me back that 0.003 BTC
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Oh shit i put 0.00300000 well man send it back to me please!
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You dont know so thats why after 1 hour of you made the investment i will give you the first 0.03 to create the confidence that you need to trust me.
Thank you guys and im here to help, help each other and start believing in people, Peer to peer
If you send the 0,03 first to any of my addresses, I'll gladly give you a loan of 0,015 within the hour Done, give me your hash!! 0,03BTC to be sent to 14GmTrt1j33Nex17BExoP3Ejz2dpgeiQMy and I will send 0,015BTC as a loan Hello Friend!! the transaction is done, here is the hash in the blockchain My hash is 388hFGeoMBFtUr4njtpEiNgUBVsTexUGge Not receiving the 0,03BTC for a 0,015BTC loan You didn't post any valid transaction id Hahah okok the validation ID is LkurwbbgL34cDin9
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