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Does anyone know anything about Vircurex? I can't get my bitcoins to withdraw. I get a timeout error each time I try. I have sent them 3 e-mails and so far I haven't had any response. It's been 5 days now since my first attempt. If anyone has any information on vircurex I would appreciate it.
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After packing up the house and moving, I'm finally getting things put back together...... I got a payment of .05 on October 8th. I'm trying to hunt down where this came from, I'll update the spreadsheet if I can confirm it came from btc-arbs. On a side note: bitcoin-trader has run off with everyone's money, and now this new site: http://expertbtc.com/ has popped up..... It's my personal opinion that it's a scam and run by the exact same people that ran bitcoin-trader. Stay far away from it! |
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In this list are the losses.
ML= Money Lost; MS = Money Sent; MR = Money Recovered
ML = MS - MR
icecreamgenius = $40k
joystickj = $31.5k
Casimir1904 = $25k
jimmad13 = $24k
timothyvail = $20k
varChar = $14.5k
pawlo74 = $12k
c0c0 = $10k
Karsten Holland = $8760
tonyca = $5964.1
Centaurus = $5k
justGotConned (Jeebs007) = $4.1k
tuktukracer = $3k
rhader = $2.7k
proximator = $2.4K
Attie707 = $2k
aerensoy = $2k
ranlo = $1.8k
Forgaria = 1578$
zwickl = $1.3k
btloser = $1280
tywe = $1,230.95
puma1888 = $1.2k
Digicoinz = $1.1k
Mr_River_x = $0.9K
Cassey = $500
I changed mine above to reflect real money lost. I never successfully had any money paid back to me, but about $5,500 previously calculated was my rolled back "earnings" which never existed anyway. Those of you who have submitted numbers above, please make sure your number is correct as to how much money you actually sent them from your own funds less profits. Do not simply put your account balance, as that is a fictitious number anyway. icecreamgenius = $40k joystickj = $31.5k Casimir1904 = $25k jimmad13 = $24k timothyvail = $20k varChar = $14.5k pawlo74 = $12k c0c0 = $10k Karsten Holland = $8760 tonyca = $5964.1 Centaurus = $5k justGotConned (Jeebs007) = $4.1k tuktukracer = $3k rhader = $2.7k proximator = $2.4K Attie707 = $2k aerensoy = $2k ranlo = $1.8k Forgaria = 1578$ zwickl = $1.3k btloser = $1280 tywe = $1,230.95 puma1888 = $1.2k Digicoinz = $1.1k Mr_River_x = $0.9K Cassey = $500 lesnod11 = $350 I added me here. |
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Does anyone know if they are posting any news and if so where? Or are they just completely silent?
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Arrrrrg Facebook, I don't subscribe to zuckerbergs idiocy. |
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so is this a scam?
Well. Nobody has been paid this week, and payments are supposed to happen daily, if that is any clue.. They claim it was due to a system failure, but also claim that was fixed yesterday. Nobody is giving any answers today, only promising an answer tomorrow... If you where to draw a Venn diagram around all of the typical characteristics of a HYIP and all the characteristics of BT, it is very hard to find any non-overlap.. That doesn't mean it is a scam.. It just means that if you look at it, it looks just like a scam. There is no reason at this point to think otherwise.. No, I was paid yesterday..... today is the first day I have not been paid. Which is also the reason I didn't know there is an issue until today. |
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More payments being sent in 5 minutes.
My hard drive died. I sent my new address to you via PM. Please let me know if you also need it in e-mail. |
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How is this guy getting the funds to pay you guys back? I'd guess he's running another ponzi and you're getting another victims BTC. And to the guy who had 72 BTC in there...why?
Does it matter at this point??? We are past the point of possibly losing all our btc and at this point it's just all small ray of hope we can get our btc back. You're about 50 pages too late for the 'ponzi' discussion. |
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So did this thread move and everyone is talking elsewhere or did it just die?
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Yep.......... lesnod has no income from my investment in bitempower. waiting......waiting.......waiting......
you invested in the 114% plan which is not paid daily but paid AFTER a certain amount of time (7 days) What are you talking about. ah ok, my bad..... no need to get hostile. |
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TF stop trolling and leave, not even going to retaliate to your bs
Should of just made this thread self modded, but seeing as most scams out self mod I decided not to.
I guess there were ups and downs on my decisions, and TF's spam is, well you know.
Instead of calling evidence that your HYIP is a scam "trolling", you may wish to respond to my evidence that directly links your HYIP to Bit-Investors, a defunct HYIP that scammed after only a few weeks. How is it one becomes a "Hero member"? |
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@lesnod Isn't your post? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657307.msg7990423#msg7990423Isn't theft? And I think that you don't check this thread from beginning. If you do you will be not to fall to doubler's fucking scam. I warned a lot about that fucking moron. Those scammers think the greed will overcome the common sense, which in some cases it happen.  Oh folks...... greed.... greed...... If you think that this thread is useless I will no more post here........ Also check this my post about hyip: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723093.msg8187764#msg8187764Again I clearly stated what hyip is. Anyway hyip=ponzi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HYIP"A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors." Regards. P.S. Please show me hyip website where I'm refer people to. Interesting where you found such website too. If you think that forum thread=website you are wrong. I NEVER refer people to any hyip website. Oh that's nothing, I lost 2500 in btc-arbs, and your point to this is?  I had to learn the hard way also, now I just use funny money. I like that you are attempting to do your diligence. But your missing the point, I'm specifically refering to this post right here: If you wanna gamble go to my ponzi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712072.0;allIt works. At least you get tiny profit without a big risk to lose a lot and learn how to ponzi working. While it's all sarcastic, it's the same pull the wool over the eyes of everyone unless they click it..... even the comments below that original commend seem confused. |
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Yep.......... lesnod has no income from my investment in bitempower. waiting......waiting.......waiting......
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So much for the pictures tonight.
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Hey man! You are not a newbie. I don't pretend for something. If you read my ponzi thread you can see that I wrote that's designed FOR NEWBIES! Also released almost for education and AGAINST theft. You wrote your post because as I see you lost no one time coz "invested" to our doubler's sites  Also I wrote that last one will be refunded in full. Regards. P.S. Maybe I'm stupid as you said but I'm trying to save newbies from big losses. Saving newbies is fine, I just find it dumb to refer people to gambling sites, when basically that's what an HYIP is, it's tit for tat, there is no difference.... I have my play money I tinker in HYIP's also, it would be the same as rolling the dice or playing cards. If you are legitimately out to help newbies don't refer them to a gambling site in return. It's like taking a shot gun from someone and giving them a bazooka |
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That's stupid! There is no difference, so long as I keep my losses as just play money what difference does it make where I lose it? If I gamble or I throw it in HYIP's it's still just 6 dollars of play money. My last HYIP I ended up making 1.25 profit before they shut down. It's pennies but gives me another 6 dollars to go throw at another HYIP and watch the drama unfold..... regardless, for you to pretend like you are somehow protecting those of us that are here for the fun of it and then to suggest where to gamble - STUPID! |
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What happened with virwox? What issue?
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Ugh. Said I was going to bow out of this thread after making my point repeatedly and crossing swords with that vile idiot yonce. But it won't go away from my 'new replies'.
I wouldn't take that bet, even if I did bet, and I am almost certain it is a ponzi. I don't get why people think the regular payouts give it any kind of legitimacy. They don't. Ponzis carry on, paying out nicely, until they don't. Then it all falls apart overnight. What determines how long they keep going is 1) how many more people get signed up and 2) how fast they pay out the new money this brings. 120 more days is quite possible.
Does anyone have any idea about 1? It only takes one $50,000 'investor' to allow them to play for time for quite a while if most people are testing the water with $20 or $100.
And has anyone tried blockchain analysis to try to figure out where the money is coming from, if exchanges are even involved at any point?
Here's one last thing to think about. IF it's a ponzi, then you can expect the people running it to be dishonest in more than one way. That's not a stretch, right? Well, they have your email address, and your password. And lots of people reuse passwords. So if you're not 100% confident these guys are as pure as the driven snow, you might want to change that password.
EDIT: the payouts of finished contracts don't fundamentally alter things. Sure it's a bit more they've got to cover, especially if a whale is cashing out. If - it looks like plenty of people reinvest because oh, it's proven itself now. If they do cash out, it just means they have to sign up a few more people.
LOL 'vile idiot yonce' - I had my run-in's with that fool also...... makes me laugh you call him a vile idiot. Now he seems to have disappeared. I wonder if he pissed the wrong person off?!?! |
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This is a whole bunch of shit
You're right, I use to get pissed at Yonce for changing the subject and now I'm entertaining the same kind of crap. I'm calling off the hounds..... sorry for the rant. |
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No, this law does not stop a person from doing arbitrage, much less customers in NY from working with sites outside of NY. The law is an attempt to license dealers. Basically Dealers would undergo background checks and would have to show that business would be conducted "honestly, fairly, equitably, carefully, and efficiently." Strait out of the liberal book of idiots yelling "more government please"! However; no place does it say a person that invest money with someone/business in another state, country, or planet that is unlicensed would make the later someone/business illegal.
Lesnod11, I don't know where you are getting your information but I can quote the proposed regulations. Bitcoin is my weekend/evening job; it's my business to know these things at a professional level. I don't intend to sound rude or condescending, but this literally is my 2nd job. An entity can still do arbitrage on their own behalf - using their own money - but they follow a different set of rules when using someone else's money. Part 200.2(n) says that a "Virtual Currency Business Activity means the conduct of any one of the following types of activities involving New York or a New York Resident: ... [part 2] securing, storing, holding, or maintaining custody or control of Virtual Currency on behalf of others." Then, 200.3 (a) states "No Person shall, without a license obtained from the superintendent as provided in this Part, engage in any Virtual Currency Business Activity." So, any entity/person holding or controlling Bitcoin for a New York resident MUST have a license. Out of the hundreds of customers Btc-Arbs had, they almost certainly have at least a few New York residents. Btc-Arbs would also fall under the definition of the regulation in other sections as well. The full text is at http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdfIn order to avoid just that quoted section, btc-arbs would need to fully refund all New York residents before the regulation goes into effect. And even then, any of those residents could say that the claimed profits are still owed to them. LOL - and of those of us who are not actively involved in btc mining, trading, arbitrage and otherwise don't have it as a second job? Don't get me wrong, but it's very condescending, not to mention naive to think the rest of us are not on the same page and work just as hard to both better the community and make money from it. Once again, nowhere does it say a person can't invest in another persons business that is located elsewhere, even what you quote doesn't state that....... The point to this was to somehow implement laws to stop things like gox, however; if a person has money or traded on gox and they lived in NY the state can do nothing to stop them. |
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