I d like to add opinion of another legendary member to these previous 2 posts. Vegas is 100% honest guy and I respect his work and his efforts. There s no way this guy would steal or scam anyone. Cryptopia on the other hand is very unprofessional business run by only 2 guys, as far as I know. The fact these people re ready to come to some Bitcoin forum and argue at this level does not put any trust into them. So, it s my personal decision never to give them a single satoshi in fees again. I strongly recommend this to anyone who reads this. Unprofessional businesses do not deserve your money.

Im in the process of filing a complaint with interpol. What your doing is criminal, and extremely unethical. Ill post a screenshot of my complaint. Also Im sure people will be lining up to use your exchange knowing they have no privacy at all. That at any moment they say the wrong thing youll post their private data.

Ill start by contacting:

Christchurch Central Police Station
Address: 68 St Asaph St, Christchurch Central, Christchurch 8011, New Zealand
Phone:+64 3-363 7400

Ill be adding to the list of authorities I will be contacting to report you, as the day progresses.

Vegas

Hello people, what do you think is going to happen with hodl after a year?

An inflation problem?

At second look, this is quite reasonable comment. I d probably go up to 50% as well as a maximum reward. Above that could be very risky. After all, look what happened to all these high inflation coins like Tek or Hyp, big time bust. If we re about to keep Fly rare and desirable, there should be as few coins as possible around.

It's still early to judge

Czym to się różni od Lisk?

lol another PLACEBO ico, u're the relentless scammer, are u boring with c-cex ico

This is like Part2 of LISK, well since i miss out on LISK ICO maybe this can compensate for that  

what days are available for the first and second day bonuses?

it says ICO starts Junes 10th, but you already collecting funds so its confusing on which days get the bonus.

could you please clarify the dates

thanks

I was asked by LiskBeliever the issuer, to provide an Escrow address that is used to collect the funds for the ICO of DL(i)sk Coins.

Who am I?

Iam SebastianJu, Iam escrow on Bitcointalk since years. Iam not connected to the issuer or the coin. Iam an independent third party who acts as an escrow in an attempt to make the ICO more secure. See my Servicethread for reviews: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

Safety from Escrow

Once the Wallet and the DL(i)sk Coins are released to the investors we will wait 7 days to see if problems arise with the wallet or Coin, then I will release the Bitcoins to the issuer. This way of handling things is usefull, the three days waiting time already stopped 2 scammy ICO's from happening, at least one other was stopped already before that time.

Please note that the safety I can provide only reaches up to the point where I released the bitcoins to the issuer.

Escrow Address

The escrow address is:
Don't send to a quoted escrow address. ALWAYS only check out my post directly and send to that address! And please check regularly if the escrow link or address was changed in the first post of thread. Inform me fast by pm, post in the thread about it and give red trust if possible to warn others fast then. If you sent me a pm then I will know about it and can act by giving red trust to the issuer to prevent damage.

Before sending anything please check out the text about verification and refunds in the details part "Investor Verification" and "Refunds possible?".

Before payment I would suggest you take a look at http://www.cointape.com/ to check out if the network gets spammed again. Below the graph there is shown what amount of fee is needed to get instant confirmation. Checking that page could prevent that transactions are stuck for hours or days because they dont get a confirmation.


Message signed with an old address of mine, that I posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

You can check a signed message very easy. The fastest way is to visit http://wallet-2sx53n.sakurity.com/#verify.

Investor Verification

There are two ways to verify your investment which is important when, for some reason, the investment has to be refunded back to investors.

First way:

Only send Bitcoins from an address you can sign a private message from or at least where you are able to get the private key for that address! This is important since in case of REFUND you can't proof otherwise that you sent bitcoins when you, for example, sent the bitcoins directly from an Exchange. In that case better send them first to your wallet and then from there to the escrow address.

For information about what you need to sign a message you can check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345

Second way:

Another alternative to proof your ownership of a payment would be to send me the last 4 numbers of your user id as satoshies in your transaction.

Move your mouse over my username, see my profile id is 18640. You can see yours when you are in your profile and hover the mouse over the links on the left menu. Something like u=18640 in the links show your User-ID. The last 4 digits are 8640. When you add these 4 numbers as satoshies to your payment then it is pretty sure it's your payment too.

For example you want to send 2 bitcoins and your profile id would be 18640 then you send 2.00008640 Bitcoin.

Refunds possible?

Refunds can only be done in case the issuer agrees or there are reasons to stop the ICO by the escrow, because there came up doubts that make the ICO too insecure to proceed.

As long as you did not verify your investment transaction in some way I will see your investment as unverified. Otherwise it could mean a random person could claim an investment as his investment and steal it from a shareholder.

Refunds can only be done instantly when you can proof ownership of the investment. Either by signing a message from the sending bitcoin address or by your investment amount matching your forum user id. See description about verification above.

If you can't proof the ownership of an investment and a refund needs to be done then you need to wait some weeks so that the risk of being scammed is lower for me and the (potential real) owner of that investment. You would want I protect your investment too when someone claims it was his investment and only can show the transaction id, right?

Good luck everyone with this ICO!

I already deposit a small stake. Sold some Lisk with the Lisk pump from 56 to 85k so i had some free money

So now everything is settling down, we want to add features to the fly wallet that will give you all kinds of choices and options. The main driving point behind fly is going to be its crypto services such as wallet compiling, custom graphics for wallet or OP, and block explorers and seed nodes. When people want these services, we will only accept fly as payment. Now, we have looked at the popular coins and and what makes them popular. One example is POSP created by cryptobullion coin in which you MUST have your wallet online and unlocked for staking to get rewards. This encourages users to have their wallets minting and thus securing the network. Those who do will get the stakes, those that dont participate will lose the reward. The other technology that I am strongly considering is created by HODL coin. HODL coin offers a higher percentage annual rate to those that choose to "lock" funds away for the length of time they choose. The longer the term, the higher the percent. There are advantages and disadvantages to this technology. The advantage is users can earn MUCH higher percent per year by locking their funds away. Fly is already extremely rare with just over 200,000 coins and 1/2 of it is owned by the top 3 users and we dont sell. So with users locking away their funds for different lengths of time, this means less on the exchange and higher prices. The disadvantage is network security is normally much less. This is why Im proposing to add POSP for those that do NOT want to lock their funds, they dont have to. They will participate in securing the network with POSP and get regular stake rewards.

So the reason Im posting this is because I would like some feedback. If we added HODL "locking" technology to fly, the interest rates would be MUCH less than what HODL pays, because inflation is the #1 killer of all coins. So I would say 100-150% is the max per year. Im thinking to add an option for 1-12 months. Its important to understand that once YOU lock your funds away, they are locked for that term. You CANNOT access them until it matures. So as you can see, I really need feedback on this. If this is something you guys would want , then we have to come up with a table of interest rates. I Also feel there should be a minimum amount of fly needed for the different lengths of term. 12 months requiring the highest minimum to get in. This would encourage buying to meet that minimum. So this is kind of the direction Im heading. If implemented, YOU would CHOOSE to lock different amounts away for different lengths of time, or you would leave your fly wallet open and participate in POSP.
So lets discuss this and share ideas.

Vegas

Next target is 300 sats?