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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 14, 2015, 01:13:02 AM
Any help or tutorial on how to stack? I'm new to stacking.
Transfert your coins from an exchange to your crave wallet and wait for your coins to mature (more or less 8h). Just unlock your wallet and it will start staking after this period of maturity.

Dont worry , Paidfudder pmed ICM and asked him to write "rekt" on this thread  Grin .
so?
is my name so confusing to you all?
im just a dumb bagholder and i wanted the truth ...

Well, you have been trolling for weeks, at least if you are holding try to show some support even if you think you wont recover from your losses.
There is still a chance to get this market release from ICM (he went online today) even if some guys already lost faith.
P.S : this "rekt" made me laugh but it sounded very weird  Grin
Happy bagholding  Cheesy
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 13, 2015, 09:05:09 PM
ICM keeps accumulating... Few more days and he will be fully loaded.

I guess you're fully right   Wink
i desperatly hope you are right ...  Undecided
I desperatly hope you desperatly hope he is right.
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 13, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
Dont worry , Paidfudder pmed ICM and asked him to write "rekt" on this thread  Grin .
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin - [20 DEC] - ANNOUNCING CRYPTWALLET !! on: July 13, 2015, 12:31:08 PM
Hope the best for the future  Wink
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 11, 2015, 09:44:24 PM
The first unlock allow your coin to stake afaik. Then when they get mature you'll get a chance at each block to earn 1/3 crave.
Correct me if im wrong but it worked like this for me.
246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 11, 2015, 09:23:02 PM
Hi guys,

I had transferred some CRAVE to my wallet for staking. It passed 250+ blocks. When I unlocked my wallet for staking only , it gives "you dont have any matured coin" and doesnt stake. Yes, it is already over 8+ hours now.

Do you know the reason for that warning?
You are sure you unlocked for staking 8 hours ago ?
It will start staking 8 hours after you unlocked for "staking only" the first time.
Coins are mature after 188 blocks. Just wait a bit more.
247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 08, 2015, 07:46:03 PM
Btw Chinese security regulations and exchanges allow the inclusion of home equity against margin trading... So thats not the same kind of crisis.
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 07, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
cravemultipool not work "Error Generating Deposit Address, Please try again"
The multipool payouts are delayed, due to the BTC blockchain being spammed with transactions. The BTC transactions from blockchain.info are delayed. Not much I can do about it, sadly.

JJ




whats the speculation on profit on owning a market?
I would think profit made on markets relies exclusively on the amount of business it does and the fee rates the owner sets on vendors

It is supposed to work like that. If a market doesnt attract people, it wont be profitable.
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 06, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
Such poetry  Huh
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market [MODERATED] on: July 05, 2015, 10:15:28 PM
There we go
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin - [20 DEC] - ANNOUNCING CRYPTWALLET !! on: July 04, 2015, 02:33:36 PM
Hope to see some good movements  Wink
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: July 02, 2015, 02:04:20 AM
Just remember, patience is key.
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: July 01, 2015, 01:53:57 PM

 Listen to me all fuders. If you think crave is a scam then sell all your crave to me. I offer 85k satoshi for every crave . Just pm me.
I doubt fudders are owning crave.
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
I had said that supporting BTC in addition to Crave is not impossible but is challenging.  I know a way it can be done but it is something to slate on the schedule after getting the remaining items on the current roadmap out, as it will probably take some time and tinkering to prove it out.

The escrow in Crave is 3 party escrow.  The Urge market operator acts at the 3rd party.  As part of normal operations their node will auto-release the funds unless there is a dispute, in which case they can then mediate and decide what to do with the escrowed funds.

It is useful outside of the markets as well so it made sense to modularize it and do the escrow management as its own feature with workflow, this way it can be built and unit tested easier.  Its like dropping the engine in the car Wink
Guess it can help.
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 10:32:38 PM
I think the idea is to consider the market operator as a clearing house and a middleman. And the 10k crave work as a collateral if something goes wrong.
Or maybe im wrong.
256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 09:36:06 PM
Yes, I'm watching this thread, and I have more than 1000 Crave. Wink
You need 10 times more if you want to open a market  Wink
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 09:19:35 PM

 I am trying to buy crave for crave market. I collected 9000 crave. If i get 1000 crave more it ll happen. I ll be the first operatör in the market Grin
wow nice, you almost there  Smiley what do you guys think how profitable would be to run a market? i understand that market owner can set up fee and that will generate profits. will there be certain % of sales that goes to market owner? what about vendor collateral amount of 100Crave, will it belong to market owner or it will be hold as insurance against fraud? sry didn't understand that part totally  Tongue

From what I understand, vendor bond amount is determined by the market operator. So there will be a competition in that. More market operators would like to set low bond amount to lure vendors in. Also market operators will get the transaction fee they set, so there will be a competition on that too.

Let's say I opened a market with 500 CRAVE vendor bond amount and I said I would take %5 of the deals. Than olcaytu2005 comes and says the vendor bond amount in his market is only 250 CRAVE and he would only take %4 of every transaction. Competition = better service, lower prices = liberal economy.

I don't know about the insurance part but I guess it won't because market operator will pass the transaction after getting confirmation that the goods arrived.

Anyway, we will understand and learn more when it releases. I am so excited.

By the way, we discussed this before but I really like the idea of having a market operator as a middleman. The trustless, "decentralized" markets doesn't fit in my logic, its just not realistic to me. There are thousands of ways abusing such a deal.

This thread have always hundreds of trolls.
Buy and hold, dont panic!

Agreed. Stake or let your mn's pay you nice income. Wink
Only few guys will be able to open a market if Crave price rises since you need 10k crave to open one as a collateral. We will probably see a monopoly/duapoly because MN & stake can be more profitable if the volume is too low on this market.
At current price its about 8 btc (more than 2k$) to open a market.
And yes the market operator is supposed to be paid with fees afaik.

That is correct. But also not many people supposed to open markets anyway, 2k$ investment for a market is nothing at the moment. If you want to purchase a buy&sell website just like ebay from a developer it would be at least 20x of that investment. Even ready to use php scripts cost around 3-4k$ and they still need a lot of development. If the plan works out and the market gets some popularity, market operators will earn a lot more than stakers and MN holders for sure. But at the beginning it is expected to see not much profits. I also think (again, if the plan works out and markets get known by the sellers and buyers = big job for the community) there will be specific markets in the future such as clothing markets, digital downloadable product markets etc.
Correct. And another fact is that the 10k crave aren't lost, you can take them back if you want to close your market, thats what i understood.
So opening a market is not really an investisment. Anyway the profitability will depend on volume & popularity.
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 08:58:47 PM

 I am trying to buy crave for crave market. I collected 9000 crave. If i get 1000 crave more it ll happen. I ll be the first operatör in the market Grin
wow nice, you almost there  Smiley what do you guys think how profitable would be to run a market? i understand that market owner can set up fee and that will generate profits. will there be certain % of sales that goes to market owner? what about vendor collateral amount of 100Crave, will it belong to market owner or it will be hold as insurance against fraud? sry didn't understand that part totally  Tongue

From what I understand, vendor bond amount is determined by the market operator. So there will be a competition in that. More market operators would like to set low bond amount to lure vendors in. Also market operators will get the transaction fee they set, so there will be a competition on that too.

Let's say I opened a market with 500 CRAVE vendor bond amount and I said I would take %5 of the deals. Than olcaytu2005 comes and says the vendor bond amount in his market is only 250 CRAVE and he would only take %4 of every transaction. Competition = better service, lower prices = liberal economy.

I don't know about the insurance part but I guess it won't because market operator will pass the transaction after getting confirmation that the goods arrived.

Anyway, we will understand and learn more when it releases. I am so excited.

By the way, we discussed this before but I really like the idea of having a market operator as a middleman. The trustless, "decentralized" markets doesn't fit in my logic, its just not realistic to me. There are thousands of ways abusing such a deal.

This thread have always hundreds of trolls.
Buy and hold, dont panic!

Agreed. Stake or let your mn's pay you nice income. Wink
Only few guys will be able to open a market if Crave price rises since you need 10k crave to open one as a collateral. We will probably see a monopoly/duapoly because MN & stake can be more profitable if the volume is too low on this market.
At current price its about 8 btc (more than 2k$) to open a market.
And yes the market operator is supposed to be paid with fees afaik.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
I like watching FUD vs anti-FUD fights.  Cheesy
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 30, 2015, 03:03:47 AM
perfect time for crave markets, the world needs this because its becoming more apparent to people everyday that the governments we have in place are weak and have no power when dealing with the IMF mafia. IMF will turn on other euro countries and make them pay greece debt. Its already happening with media now reporting greece owes the money to euro countries (58 bill to germany ,30 bill italy etc) very soon these countries will turn on their citizens and ask them to suffer more austerity. Obviously greece and others cant pay so they will be asset stripped (uk lost a few assets, royal mail and soon nhs) we need a system to allow trade without imf fiat.  URGE fills lots of boxes and with craves anon tech on top it has the potential to become a very useful tool for all of us.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/eu/debt_greek/debt_greek.html
IMF and ECB are just asking for the moment to greece to pay the interests of its loans, thats about 1.5 billions € to IMF for tomorrow and another 7 billions spread between july and august to ECB. This will not be paid ofc.
Its not IMF's fault if greece is a master of illegal work and tax evasion for decades with a retarded goverment.
Everyone knew already in 2010 that greece would never be able to pay.
Greece represents only 2% of the EU's GDP, this will not have that much impact for others EU countries if greece collapses.

Btw I like it because this gives traction to Bitcoin Wink, gold is going up too.
And yes its a good time for Crave to show its potential and for few others altcoins too.
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