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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 07:52:54 PM
subtlety talking shit about a coin is no better than posting it on your twitter


we should act like adults investing large sums of money

not fucking children


..................


i know if this keeps up xc will become lastweekscoin


regardless if xc is better than the rest or not


my two cents which as of last nights dump is now 1 cent






Last nights dump will happen again and again and again until distribution has become a stabilizing factor. Right now marketcap is too low for so many weak hands. The talk in this thread has an influence on the high volatility, yes, but it s a factor among many. Keep it cool.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
Insulting other cryptos shouldn t be tolerated in this thread as the very reason it exists is this kind of behaviour. We should know and behave better.

Please...can we stick to the logo contest. We should gather a lot of works and decide then. Posting the link to the logo contest Teka opened is enough. Posting and reposting img will make this thread more uncomfortable to read.
 
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS ANON on: May 29, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
omg, thx, finaly peace....
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 29, 2014, 04:22:50 PM

Any background about the developer of XC?
Yes! http://seclists.org/interesting-people/2002/Feb/107 (more to come)






So a couple of things.. #1 - that twitter account is fake, my account is the matrix_guru one... also web site was take down as soon as my identity was revealed for reasons I cannot discuss.


#2 - YES that is me in the article above, back in 1998 I designed and deployed a large wireless ISP.  By 2003 it had expanded to cover a large part of eastern Massachusetts.  As it grew more features were added, like VoIP, QOS, and VLAN support.  However market conditions changed with lower cost solutions available from the competition(Verizon deployed DSL in my community due to the threat)... The product was then upgraded to support a marine environment, which was deployed in Cape Cod.   This network still runs to do this day, serving 11 Ferries and 50k to 150k (depends on season) per day.


This.

@dev/teka

could u comment on the self-moderated thread not a few i guess would prefer?
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS - no IPO| Anonymous POS in development on: May 29, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
You definitely have earned that "Ingnored". Hope we get a second moderated thread soon. Can t take it anymore. To much bs and not enough serious xc stuff.

It's al-right, no need for any moderation! You can stop feeding them now Tongue

@altsecure, really good job so far, just like eduff did for dark, thoughts are with you and don't let the haters get you down  Kiss

It s not about feeding them or not. They keep going anyhow whether they get reactions or not. This thread has lost most of his quality by not being moderated. Furthermore i was talking about a second thread which means anyone would be free to enjoy the bs talk here. I m sure not many would do so.

Trust me I saw what trolls did to the old unmoderated BlackCoin thread. It was literally flooded with sockpuppet accounts on every page spreading FUD. As soon the topic switched to moderated and the trolls saw their posts getting deleted the topic became readable again.

I'd rather not see it happen though. It took a few weeks of trolling before BC team folded and made it self-moderated, so lets see what happens here.

I hope we can keep it clean and professional. No way to do so without moderation. You could say: "Ignore" them. But i d have to ignore the reactions to them as well, even if they came from serious xc dudes. Not moderated means not readable means not worthy of xc, its developer and members.  
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS - no IPO| Anonymous POS in development on: May 29, 2014, 03:13:48 PM
You definitely have earned that "Ingnored". Hope we get a second moderated thread soon. Can t take it anymore. To much bs and not enough serious xc stuff.

It's al-right, no need for any moderation! You can stop feeding them now Tongue

@altsecure, really good job so far, just like eduff did for dark, thoughts are with you and don't let the haters get you down  Kiss

It s not about feeding them or not. They keep going anyhow whether they get reactions or not. This thread has lost most of his quality by not being moderated. Furthermore i was talking about a second thread which means anyone would be free to enjoy the bs talk here. I m sure not many would do so.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS - no IPO| Anonymous POS in development on: May 29, 2014, 03:02:34 PM
Please correct this from OP, its 5.5 blah blah mil coins and not:

Total # of Coins reduced to about 6~7.5Million with POW

This is the most beautiful scam ever. First dozens of mil, then 6 to 7.5 mil, than back to 5.5 mil. And hardly we can find people aware of this.

Are people really blind? I guess the dev and his friends have (or had) at least 50% of all coins easily. This thing will collapse like nothing else yet... I hardly feel sorry for illusional people, but this is too crazy.



To be fair the decision was made very public and heavily supported. There was a 51% risk on the hash and we were near the end of mining. For distribution and safety it was reduced. Pretty much everyone supported the decision at the time.

Ok, show me the actual first post. It should be not after 21-22 may...

It was after. It was near the end of mining, the hashrate went insane. I mean utterly insane, I've never seen so many SCRYPT hashes in one place and there was a genuine cause for concern at the time. It was at around 4.5mil I think.

Bullshit. What is the problem then? Those miners would dump, keep the market in balance (force up, force down) and eventually the distribution would be much fairer. A much bigger concern is people had a few percent based on the total amount stated before, had multiple percent after.

Here is the first post made _here_ about it  Roll Eyes Can you quit it

So you guys think it will be 10k tommrow??

It would be like liberty all over, went to bed at 6 K woke up at 10k ++

I hope not so fast... gradual rise is way better than shooting up so people can dump to take a quick profit.   This coin definitely is for the long term with a strong dev that's not here to pump and dump.   XLB like rise over such short time actually is bad for the coin ultimately I think.

Oh ya, just looked at the website and Saw POW last 100 days only 13% through the blocks so I guess it wont get to high or the multipools will smash the price down as it becomes to profitable.  Holding a little bit and can't wait to see the anon features!

I wish we can cut POW down to 10 days... for sure the multipool will smash it if they get a hold of the profitability...

Potentially it could be reduced... but thats a huge decision



Yep I linked it for him too but lets not let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory

Conspiracy theory: we are going to launch anon (and delay over and over)

Fact: its ridiculous to reduce the total amount of coins after launch and dev knew more than everyone else. I am sure this coin has more big holders than any other coin, who do you think they are?

Another fact: its just sick if you have to make money this way. Personally, i hate what happened with xlb although made nice profit and will put some effort in this bullshit. Even if i can prevent one buyer to buy this ill be happy.

You definitely have earned that "Ignored". Hope we get a second moderated thread soon. Can t take it anymore. To much bs and not enough serious xc stuff.
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 29, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
Honestly, the whole "x11 coin" nomenclature idea needs to be dropped.  Too much affiliation with Darkcoin.

Xnode Currency, Xnode Coin, or Xcurrency is the only three decent ones I can think of.  The first one being my preference.

To my mind, even the "X" itself should not be set in stone. Why not invite some professionell guys to a contest. Winner gets bounty donated by community. A fresh start to rethink our corporate identity.
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 29, 2014, 07:59:01 AM
XC is heading up again, stop freaking out it hasnt even been 24 hours. Investing requires holding your investment longer than hours, days, or even weeks or months.

Good luck with that.

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/pair/xc/btc/poloniex/10-days

I've been waiting to buy in, will wait till it gets to 0.001. You can thank me later for the headsup.

You must be new here. Welcome to crypto.

Thanks.

Retired day trader here though. Definitely not new.

Pretty strange a retired daytrader is not remembering the very early bitcoin days. Why exactly did u retire? ^^

Bitcoin bubbled up and it bubbled right back down. Don't get me wrong, ill invest here, the team behind it shows promise. But it's going to 0.001 before it gets to 0.01.

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/pair/xc/btc/poloniex/10-days

It's going to continue swinging up and down with lower highs and lower lows. Until a final crash probably tomorrow, maybe today.

If you can't see that then that's your problem.

Speak to me tomorrow, you'll know why I'm retired then.




You might be right if there is high supply going from top100 to top1000 in the next hours. that needed some big holders to shake out a lot what could easily happen. But there are many dudes out there waiting  patiently to get in cheap. Some of them most likely retired daytraders. ^^ Also it s quite normal to see a drop in EU morning time. no offense man, you may be right or wrong, maybe we can agree on the high probability that, if the peer view and road map go well, xc never again will be that undervalued gem it is now.  
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 29, 2014, 07:44:09 AM
XC is heading up again, stop freaking out it hasnt even been 24 hours. Investing requires holding your investment longer than hours, days, or even weeks or months.

Good luck with that.

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/pair/xc/btc/poloniex/10-days

I've been waiting to buy in, will wait till it gets to 0.001. You can thank me later for the headsup.

You must be new here. Welcome to crypto.

Thanks.

Retired day trader here though. Definitely not new.

Pretty strange a retired daytrader is not remembering the very early bitcoin days. Why exactly did u retire? ^^
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 29, 2014, 07:33:29 AM
Missing the benefits of a moderated thread... this place really gets ugly.

@recent dump

If u look at the top 100 richest adresses of xc distribution, it is still pretty centralized for a coin with that volume. Darkcoin has a higher percentage of top1000 holders which will also happen to xc. And that s a good thing although those dumps hurt. There will be many more weak hand shakin out their xc until this gem finally gets stable. If you have strong nerves on this bumpy track and hold, u might be rewarded in a way u don t dare to dream of now. To my mind it s a bet with a minor risk but a chance for a life changing reward.

Really looking forward to seeing a roadmap. Next to the peer view of the code, it s the only thing that will do as a shield against all this orchestrated FUD which is damn annoying by the way.

@Teka You re doing a great job as CM. Thank you very much.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 28, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
Parker, trolling around is one thing. Insulting people with no reason is something you shouldn t do. Please calm down.

As u wrote earlier in this thread u bought in at 10k. What happened to your stack?
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 27, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Dev is aware of the fact that something about the brand needs to be done. Let s not be too narrow-minded but collect fresh ideas from the community and/or professional designers. The "X" is not a must, to my mind it s rather a bump. I ll repost my thoughts about it, guys, please keep this brand discussion alive. XC is NOT a name, it s an abbrevation! Some guys here don t seem to get it. I think the current corporate design is not bringing it. We need a professional solution.

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I think it's great and a lot of people love it, sorry but it's been decided.

Dude, it s decided for now because we needed a quick solution. Sorry to become rude but ur close minded reaction to criticism just proves u r not a professional. This one here is not about celebrating your first shot. You made a nice start but please curb ur vanity to let this be handled by some specialised folks.
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 27, 2014, 01:10:00 PM
Dev is aware of the fact that something about the brand needs to be done. Let s not be too narrow-minded but collect fresh ideas from the community and/or professional designers. The "X" is not a must, to my mind it s rather a bump. I ll repost my thoughts about it, guys, please keep this brand discussion alive. XC is NOT a name, it s an abbrevation! Some guys here don t seem to get it. I think the current corporate design is not bringing it. We need a professional solution.

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I m disappointed the renaming has been decided without any further discussion. I would have recommended not to be so restricted about the naming of this gem and concentrate more on an open discussion without enforcing an early decision. But i couldn t even finish my post until it was done. A little too fast i think with a little too less consideration.

To my mind "XC" does well as an abbrevation but as a name it s not working. It s not fluent (how could it be without a vowel) and it would be a rather bumpy word in every conversation. Under marketing aspects this coin definitely has an unsexy name. If you don t care about marketing that might not appear to be problem but a coin with this success story needs a professional branding. Everything else would be irresponsible.

Big problem: the X. If you stick to this letter you have a very limited choice as there are not that many words beginning with it, right now "Xeno" or "Xent" (oh no, reminds me of Cents so forget it ^^ ) comes to my mind but it still sounds that little bit too fierce because of the sharp "X". The other proposals, with all respect, sound as artificially constructed as mine because it s just hard to find a (compound) word with this capital letter.

I would have recommended to restart with new ideas, focus on the main features/benefits of this coin and find a fitting brand with no restrictions to its current naming.

We all are more and more getting the idea of how big this one could be. This one definitely would have needed a professional designer with a relevant skill set to ensure a proper brand identity. This premature decision might reflect the current rush but it might not be the best for the coin's future marketability and competitivness.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 26, 2014, 11:22:30 PM
Guys do you realise the significance of us debating on the name of the coin?

Meanwhile in other threads, there is fighting, fud and madness.

And us? "What name do we need to give our coin"  Grin

We got first class tickets to the moon and beyond.

Yes, actually i realised the significance. But i can understand that you don t care about the name of the rocket ship that brings you to the moon. As long as it does its job.

This all reminds me a little of our government making crucial decisions while people are going crazy during big sport events. No one cares but for the next goal. I don t like that style especially when the decisions to be made are so important.
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 26, 2014, 11:13:58 PM
I like the name "XC". It is a simple and plain name, like "BTC". X-Coin is the best. X stands for mysterious, like every single transaction will be when sent to people. Mysterious transactions that can't be figured out Smiley

Get ready for landing at 0.025/ $13 per coin.

BTC is not a name, it s an abbrevation. The name is so much better. Unfortunately you cannot say this about XC.    
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS | 3 Exchanges | The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 26, 2014, 11:07:12 PM
I m disappointed the renaming has been decided without any further discussion. I would have recommended not to be so restricted about the naming of this gem and concentrate more on an open discussion without enforcing an early decision. But i couldn t even finish my post until it was done. A little too fast i think with a little too less consideration.

To my mind "XC" does well as an abbrevation but as a name it s not working. It s not fluent (how could it be without a vowel) and it would be a rather bumpy word in every conversation. Under marketing aspects this coin definitely has an unsexy name. If you don t care about marketing that might not appear to be problem but a coin with this success story needs a professional branding. Everything else would be irresponsible.

Big problem: the X. If you stick to this letter you have a very limited choice as there are not that many words beginning with it, right now "Xeno" or "Xent" (oh no, reminds me of Cents so forget it ^^ ) comes to my mind but it still sounds that little bit too fierce because of the sharp "X". The other proposals, with all respect, sound as artificially constructed as mine because it s just hard to find a (compound) word with this capital letter.

I would have recommended to restart with new ideas, focus on the main features/benefits of this coin and find a fitting brand with no restrictions to its current naming.

We all are more and more getting the idea of how big this one could be. This one definitely would have needed a professional designer with a relevant skill set to ensure a proper brand identity. This premature decision might reflect the current rush but it might not be the best for the coin's future marketability and competitivness.


I couldn't disagree more. First, it was unanimous that people wanted XC, just look a the reaction when it was changed. This means that the dev made the right call and listened to the community.

Second, I have no problem coming up with marketing ideas already. Also, people on Twitter have taken note of XC and like it.

Anyways the change has been made , we need to move on and develop the community as well as get projects going.

With all respect for your work, the brand identy of this coin has not been given sufficient consideration.
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC] -POW & 3.33% POS | 3 Exchanges | The first POS X11 anonymous wallet on: May 26, 2014, 10:57:48 PM
I m disappointed the renaming has been decided without any further discussion. I would have recommended not to be so restricted about the naming of this gem and concentrate more on an open discussion without enforcing an early decision. But i couldn t even finish my post until it was done. A little too fast i think with a little too less consideration.

To my mind "XC" does well as an abbrevation but as a name it s not working. It s not fluent (how could it be without a vowel) and it would be a rather bumpy word in every conversation. Under marketing aspects this coin definitely has an unsexy name. If you don t care about marketing that might not appear to be a problem but a coin with this success story needs a professional branding. Everything else would be irresponsible.

Big problem: the X. If you stick to this letter you have a very limited choice as there are not that many words beginning with it, right now "Xeno" or "Xent" (oh no, reminds me of Cents so forget it ^^) comes to my mind but it still sounds that little bit too fierce because of the sharp "X". The other proposals, with all respect, sound as artificially constructed as mine because it s just hard to find a (compound) word with this capital letter.

I would have recommended to restart with new ideas, focus on the main features/benefits of this coin and find a fitting brand with no restrictions to its current naming.

We all are more and more getting the idea of how big this one could be. This one definitely would have needed a professional designer with a relevant skill set to ensure a proper brand identity. This premature decision might reflect the current rush but it might not be the best for the coin's future marketability and competitivness.
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BDG][BADGERCOIN] POW MULTIPOOL X11/Scrypt/SHA256 - POS LIVE - 5 EXCHANGES on: May 21, 2014, 08:16:22 PM

Would you stop saying the same thing over and over again, we got the message and agreed! we have already stated what we are working on, 2 of the devs are currently away one of them is the one that will be looking at anonymous sending, he is back in just over a week.

We are still working on the new website inc a news page and updates on the multipool.  when there is more news we'll post more news.

Part of the problem is we're all holding the coins, there are 360k coins on poloniex, and less on bittrex and 14m total coins.

Ok, you got it. Understood. Did you share these facts about unavaiable devs before? If i missed it, sorry, one more reason to implement a news section. Do you think i like to be annoying or that i am driven by some kind of vanity? I just vehemently demand sharing of information to keep this community connected with Badgercoin. Please make my petitions unnecessary by generally communicating important news and by doing this more regulary. Thanks for your update anyway, if you need help or funding, pm me.

Sorry but since when did we have to tell everybody each devs every comings and goings?  We work on it as much as we possibly can, and update news when its newsworthy.  We have already said we are working on a new website where we will add some of your ideas like feature etas, until then please stop badgering us with the same thing over and over and your negativity (all be it mixed in with very good ideas and plans)

Of course you don t have to, don t get me wrong. I m still truly thankful for what you do, like we all are. But with creation comes responsibility and i think the devs' comings and goings are newsworthy, especially when it comes to realize important implementations. It s not about stalking you, this kind of transparency and comprehensibility is an inner value of any lively community.
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BDG][BADGERCOIN] POW MULTIPOOL X11/Scrypt/SHA256 - POS LIVE - 5 EXCHANGES on: May 21, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

To stompix, If you believe that kills a coin, then you need to reconsider your belief in the entire POS system because that is how all POS coins work.  There is nothing that limits actual use, besides, have you seen the coin now?  It's not exactly alive.  Go look at Blackcoin mktcap, we can be higher than that.  What this does is it simply magnifies the POS portion, but only for the longterm holders.  Believe me, there will still be plenty of shortterm buyers and sellers.  Implementing Advanced POS and then adding anonymous features could be the perfect storm combination that takes this coin from "dead" to number 1 in volume on Poloniex.  

Stompix general thoughts about currencies are correct. Additionally, looking at POS, its main purpose is independance from POW. The network survives just by people leaving their wallts unlocked. A very good concept because it s efficient not only concerning power consumption. Reducing supply because people baghold is a side-effect but is not the main purpose of POS.

Nevertheless, I think your idea is interesting. But before raising mid- or long-term interest we really need to focus on reviving this coin by stimulating demand.
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