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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Veil] Veilcoin x13 *Secure - Anonymous* On Bittrex! [VeilCall alpha] on: June 24, 2014, 09:00:10 AM



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619210

Talkcoin is a next-generation crypto-currency that is the first to let users communicate via the blockchain with the same freedom and security provided to financial transactions. Talkcoin lets users chat, exchange information and leave messages publicly, privately and anonymously without the need for a central server and without control or censorship by any one person or government.





http://www.streamerp2p.com/


New version 2.20 published, with many improvements. See news for details.
The new and old versions are incompatible, the two networks are different and don't talk to each other, so you need v2.xx to listen to v2.xx streams. Broadcasters are encouraged to use the new version, but the old version 1.47 will stay working until people stop using it. The old and new version can both be installed at the same time, they install to different folders and don't interfere with each other.

Streamerp2p enables anyone to webcast without needing to pay for servers or hosting. It works from your home pc, even on dial-up for some streams. There is no maximum limit to listeners, like with like shoutcast or other unicasting. It is completely free to use for both personal and commercial users. Small install (12M with the LibVlc video library)
Listen to things the mainstream doesn't play.
Be a bedroom DJ.
Promote your band or label's music.
Do chat shows, using skype to conference your presenters.
Promote your favourite diety.
Use it as an overflow for your when your shoutcast stream is full.
Join the webcasting revolution.
 streamer icon to listen (Streamer must be previously installed).
unicast icon unicast (where available).
version 2.xx icon you need Streamerp2p ver. 2.xx to listen!
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https://guardianproject.info/2012/12/10/voice-over-tor/


Voice over Tor?
Voice calls over Tor are supposed to be impossible. It seems this may no longer be the case.

Without being able to do voice over IP (VOIP) conversations over the Tor network, people are prevented from being able to route  calls outside of censored networks. People ask us if there is any way they can route voice traffic through Tor to avoid blocks. To our surprise, we tested Skype and found that it can work acceptably over Orbot.

There are two main reasons that it has been held that VOIP will not practically work over the Tor network.

A technical problem with the transport layer that Tor supports.
The network is too slow for the latency demands of a real-time voice conversation.
However, it turns out Skype has some pretty robust signaling capabilities such that it works on a variety of network conditions. Also, in practice the latency is more usable then one would have thought. This is good news for the future of VOIP traffic over the Tor network, and not only over Skype.

Problem 1: Transport Protocol
TCP is the most common transport protocol for the Internet. It guarantees reliable communication and is used for nearly everything you do in an Internet browser. UDP is a more relaxed protocol used for real-time communications because it reduces latency. The cost for this is that UDP is not reliable and will occasionally drop traffic. For this reason, it is useful for real-time applications that benefit from lower latency. While dropping packets is never ideal, in a real-time communications it usually doesn’t significant affect the quality and even then the time it would take to re-transmit lost packets with TCP might preclude the data being relevant to the stream anymore.

The problem here is that Tor only supports TCP for its transport layer. Meanwhile, VOIP applications use UDP. So they’re not supposed to work over Tor and one of the main difficulties for VOIP users to apply strong anonymity to real-time voice communication.

Even if you tunneled UDP traffic through Tor it would be encapsulated in TCP and lose any benefits that UDP provides for real-time traffic. The TCP mechanisms attempt to account for lost packets and hold delivery of future packets until a resend is complete.

If you’re interested in learning more about networking, I would highly recommend Computer Networks by Peterson and Davie. Its takes a practical approach to teaching the technology and avoids strict adherence to the layered model of the Internet. Beyond that, any TCP/IP or Internet technology introductory resource will get you far!

Solution: Here either Tor needs to support UDP or you need a VOIP client that supports TCP. It had been suggested that Skype will fallback to use TCP connections in instances in which the user has UDP traffic blocked. This is not a very uncommon network policy for some Internal networks and reflects Skype’s effort to make their application work in many hostile network conditions (NATs, firewalls, ect.).

Problem 2: Latency
Second, Tor relays and mixes its traffic across multiple nodes which greatly increases latency. People generally have pretty high performance expectations for latency over a two-way phone conversation. Adding even a couple of  milliseconds of lag between conversations can be very noticeable to the user. It causes jerks and jumps in the conversation, making it hard to communicate. For this reason, it is likely that widespread routing of voice traffic through Tor is unlikely. However, people already cope with quite a bit of latency using VOIP internationally, and there are very real security and censorship demands that would require VOIP over Tor. In many situations latency will be quite usable. Let’s see how it actually feels over Tor.

Solution:

The solution here is just accepting the latency. The latency is not ideal but in practice, it is still quite usable. As Tor network performance increases (and one-day supports UDP), real-time communications will begin to have better performance.

Skype over Tor
For testing, I used two Nexus One phones running Gingerbread and the latest Skype binary from the Android App Store. Orbot will transparently route traffic through Tor if you use its transproxy features. The transproxy will drop UDP traffic since it can’t be routed through Tor. It is this feature that causes Skype to fallback to TCP and work over Tor.

First, I looked at normal Skype traffic leaving the phone. It uses some TCP connections to contact Microsoft servers and authenticate your account. Once you start a voice chat you will see lots of UDP traffic as expected. However, if you turn on Orbots transproxy you will see Skype being forced to start up a conversation using only TCP.

Here is a Wireshark screenshot of failed UDP connections to Microsoft servers. I did this by letting the UDP traffic through, logging it, and then dropping it before it left my test environment. So you can see the UDP connections going one way to a variety of IP addresses:



We set one of the phones to route through Tor by turning on the transproxy. Then logged into Skype on each phone and placed a call. Skype worked over Tor! We were having a conversation across two IPs from two different ISPs. The latency wasn’t great, but it was surprisingly usable. I’ve included two-packet captures. One should just look like Tor traffic and is a Skype conversation over Tor. The other is an actual log of the dropped UDP packets (I dropped them at an intermediary device rather than using the Transproxy to capture this). In the UDP log set you’ll see a bunch of UDP traffic originating form a single address (the phone) with no return traffic. They UDP traffic was being immediately dropped after the log.

It turns out you can have a workable VOIP chat over Tor if you use Skype. The findings are interesting because they are relevant to the general problem of trying to use real-time communication through the Tor network. It may also be useful for VERY specific and limited threat models that involve censorship bypass in which there is little risk in being caught.

Here’s to hoping for UDP over Tor in the future. Until then, Guardian Project is working on a design for high latency voice communications. The idea is that you could send quick voice messages with the click of a button similar to how you use an old hand-held radio. We’re toying with names like Push to Torlk and Onion Ringer. Stay tuned!

Disclaimer: In my opinion, Skype is not a secure standard for VOIP communication. It uses non-standard closed source encryption and has likely become CALEA compliant upon acquisition by Microsoft. That means that they have infrastructure in place to intercept communications and relay that information to law enforcement agencies around the world. It is unwise to assume that other state and non-state actors would not also have means to access that data.




Veilcoin

442  Local / 山寨币 / Re: Veilcoin面纱币是一场骗局吗???????????????? on: June 24, 2014, 08:31:39 AM
果子,你怎么对匿名这么热心啊
准确的说是匿名社交,嘴巴除了吃就是用来说话的,我不想被人堵上。言论自由、天赋人权!所以之前我一直推荐去中心化匿名聊天talkcoin
443  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★匿名社交真的有人需要吗? on: June 24, 2014, 07:54:48 AM
楼主是不是在推广talkcoin呢。。。 Grin
是的啊,个人比较喜欢,幸运的话也能领点赏金
444  Local / 山寨币 / Veilcoin面纱币是一场骗局吗???????????????? on: June 24, 2014, 07:51:36 AM
Veilcoin的英文创世贴中提到了发射VeilCall需要3-4周完成,22号推出当天就上线bittrex,每枚Veil价值最高被拉升到0.0038btc。在所有的二代币上线平台当天几乎都会出现这样的情况,Veil也不例外,22号夜里回落到0.0025btc左右。一段时间之后开始大跌,缘起于英文创世贴下的一篇回复,认为Veil盗用别人图片,作者回复称图片就是邀请的那个乐队成员设计的。随后Veil有所反弹,接下来又有回帖称Veil的语音电话只是画大饼,根本实现不了等等,并列举出他认为实现不了的原因,作者回复称他们是如何实现的,质疑回帖者是想打压价格低价吸货等等,双方就这样你来我往,价格也一落千丈。(我大致的了解是这样的,翻译如有不符请指正)

对于去中心化语音能否实现,我查了下资料,目前能找到的只有streamer已经实现了去中心化语音功能,用户可以发起自己的音乐播放、节目访谈和文字聊天。
streamer网址http://www.streamerp2p.com,大家可以参考下。





Veilcoin已经封锁官方帖子,Veil能否在3-4周发射,你怎么看?



445  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★匿名社交真的有人需要吗? on: June 24, 2014, 07:18:41 AM
看着这币翻了5倍,但是我没买也不后悔
最高时翻了近7倍
446  Local / 山寨币 / Re: 功能币来袭去:去中心化匿名聊天和匿名语音电话你更看好哪个? on: June 24, 2014, 05:46:53 AM
个人觉得都是噱头,为了拉接盘侠出货而已 Embarrassed
你有权这么认为!
只是我想说,我在tac0.000023的价位就推荐给大家了,那时候很多人就说再找接盘侠,tac前几天最高涨到了0.000142.涨了7倍!你理解中的接盘侠是买了就能赚到的含义吗?
447  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★匿名社交真的有人需要吗? on: June 24, 2014, 05:37:20 AM
如果这能做的出来,我需要
已经做出来了,5月4号钱包就推出了
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAC] TalkCoin | First Anonymous Chat | First NIST5 | Vote/No Premine on: June 24, 2014, 04:34:49 AM
the price is quite low now,Just buy it! Grin
  do the dev  have some plan ?
I bought some too.

I also bought some Grin Grin Grin
449  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 世界第一座“比特币”岛 on: June 23, 2014, 09:02:43 PM
尽管比特币的货币地位已经遭到多国央行的否认,但仍有一些人力挺这种虚拟货币。
据悉,位于英吉利海峡中的英国皇家属地“泽西岛”即将被打造成全球首个以比特币为流通货币的小岛。
英国财务官员Senator Philip Ozouf表示希望让泽西岛成为比特币的流通地和坚实后盾,最终成为全球第一个以比特币作为基础货币的小岛。初步,泽西岛将允许岛上人员使用比特币来替代传统货币用于支付报纸、公共汽车票、报纸等日常商品费用。
不过,Senator Philip Ozouf对“比特币岛”有着更长远的规划——世界比特币银行,并开展全球顶级的金融服务。

450  Local / 山寨币 / 世界第一座“比特币”岛 on: June 23, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
尽管比特币的货币地位已经遭到多国央行的否认,但仍有一些人力挺这种虚拟货币。
据悉,位于英吉利海峡中的英国皇家属地“泽西岛”即将被打造成全球首个以比特币为流通货币的小岛。
英国财务官员Senator Philip Ozouf表示希望让泽西岛成为比特币的流通地和坚实后盾,最终成为全球第一个以比特币作为基础货币的小岛。初步,泽西岛将允许岛上人员使用比特币来替代传统货币用于支付报纸、公共汽车票、报纸等日常商品费用。
不过,Senator Philip Ozouf对“比特币岛”有着更长远的规划——世界比特币银行,并开展全球顶级的金融服务。

451  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / ★匿名社交真的有人需要吗? on: June 23, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
聊聊币TalkCoin,一个新的“第二代”加密货币,第一个去中心化匿名聊天和民主投票区块产量的加密货币。2014年5月4日推出,无ipo、无超级快、源码公开。需求量巨大的功能币。

很多人看到关于去中心化匿名聊天的新闻和宣传,经常回帖问一个问题:谁需要去中心化的匿名聊天?



下面整理部分百度搜索“匿名社交”得到的新闻报道:


匿名社交Whisper每月网页浏览量达25亿次,而Secret则高达35亿;Snapchat的用户也达到了2,600万,Whisper也已经完成了C轮3600万美元的融资。除原有投资方光速和红杉外,夏斯塔创投(Shasta)、兴盛资本(Thrive Bentures)以及腾讯参投,投后Whisper估值约2亿美元。

腾讯推出“悄悄”,
“小声”:获数百万元天使投资。

匿名社交网络为什么这么红
http://www.fortunechina.com/business/c/2014-06/16/content_209795.htm
匿名社交网络让网民在网上分享观点时更有安全感。根据Facebook的经验,匿名社交网络预计很快就会迎来爆炸式增长。商界必须随时做好准备,为我所用。


腾讯领投美国匿名信息分享应用Whisper  http://www.fortunechina.com/column/c/2014-05/21/content_206305.htm

熟人之间的匿名社交:在国外红的发紫的Secret有了第一个中国学徒“秘密”,但绝不会只有这一个
http://www.36kr.com/p/210668.html

大咖预测匿名社交网络会在未来爆红
http://www.hxen.com/englisharticle/yingyuyuedu/2014-06-16/351833_2.html



更多匿名社交新闻标题:

 
   Talkcoin Wants Your Communications Secure And Private
      (胡安·高尔特Juan Galt: Talkcoin让您的通讯安全和私密)


   许朝军新产品乌鸦,用“圈层”概念赶趟匿名社交


    比特币的匿名性:没任何问题


    匿名社交基因论 大街“吐司”、YY“秘密圈”怎么玩?


    “吐司”让匿名社交更具生命力


    应用宝“秘密”首发Secret中文版 腾讯布局匿名社交?


    三个匿名社交软件的产品体验报告---secret官方中文版、无秘、秘密


    Secret进军国内的“秘密”

   
        脉脉:匿名八卦,实名社交


    匿名社交应用乌鸦上线 开启吐槽新玩法


    8点1氪晚间版:如果真的回到过去……(匿名社交)


    匿名社交应用Secret推新功能 将让“秘密”只在内部流传


    大街网CEO王秀娟:匿名社交应用吐司将上线 打造职场的“秘密”


    匿名社交网络:美国国安局最大克星


    李鬼遇李逵:匿名社交鼻祖Secret官方中文版现身


    猜猜:做细分于校园领域的匿名社交


    啪啪团队低调推出“乌鸦” 布局匿名社交


    啪啪团队低调推出“乌鸦” 布局匿名社交应用


    啪啪团队推出“乌鸦” 匿名社交APP域名有创意?


    许朝军推出匿名社交APP乌鸦 用户分职场与校园


    匿名社交添新玩法 乌鸦引入圈层概念


    乌鸦细分市场 开启匿名社交新尝试


    到头来,社交皆圈子,匿名社交也不例外


    方圆2500米的匿名爆料:叽叽


    啪啪许朝军的“社交情结”:推出匿名社交圈子APP“乌鸦”


    用匿名社交说说你在学校和公司的糟心事


    匿名社交“隐秘”争夺战爆发 APP总数已经超过20款


    熟人?陌生人?匿名社交?


    匿名社交应用“悄悄”为什么比“秘密”更懂你


    各种露骨猛料?匿名社交软件秘密App体验


    【娱观点】秘密APP太火 匿名社交软件舒服了谁?

       
        【MSC】去中心化互联网项目IPO-Maidsafe 项目


    比特币公司BitGo融资1200万美元


    视频:匿名社交软件悄然走红 秘密APP打造“假面舞会” 来源:上海电视台


    没有网络也能聊天,FireChat究竟应该被用在哪儿


    秘密:如何设计一款匿名社交应用


    匿名社交应用真的能做到匿名吗?



    泰国聊天应用如何成功模仿Snapchat?


    熟人匿名社交分享应用Secret的设计亮点


    剖析“秘密”:从产品角度看匿名社交的价值与局限


    易信推“问一问” 匿名社交PK熟人社交谁将胜出?


    匿名社交的热闹与失控:今天你吐槽老板了吗?


    匿名社交应用Secret推Android版 进军国际市场


    Facebook探索匿名社交服务:或与Secret合作

    Secret创始人称中国应用“秘密”涉嫌抄袭


    匿名社交应用Secret入华 与中国游戏公司合作


    匿名社交上演花样模仿大赛

    IM和社交应用的新趋势:非公开和半匿名


    匿名社交软件“秘密” 成色情、隐私揭秘内容福地


    匿名社交软件,为何就成洪水猛兽?

    匿名社交软件"秘密"火了 邀满三个朋友可解锁看秘密


    无觅新品“秘密” 通讯录的匿名社交


    匿名社交应用小声获数百万元天使投资


    大咖预测匿名社交网络会在未来爆红


    匿名社交网络为什么这么红?


    匿名社交能走多远?


    匿名社交,如何保持用户粘性?


    匿名社交的玩法(组图)


    爆料:YY推匿名社交产品 功能与“秘密”类似


    熟人之间的匿名社交:在国外红的发紫的Secret有了第一个中国学徒“秘密”...


    “秘密”遭下架 COPY型创业遇短板

   新匿名社交软件“呵呵”上线:规避恶意造谣


    匿名社交的“隐秘”争夺战


    TAC钱包聊天窗口部分消息(6月14日)


    Likealittle:校园匿名交友网站


    一场悄悄兴起的匿名游戏!


    一批新应用正带领用户走进匿名和私密社交时代

   
       匿名社交APP走红 实名制的Facebook也想开发了


    匿名社交引爆秘密:你敢爆料吗?


    专访Whisper创始人:匿名分享引爆另类社交


    人性的另一面:匿名社交的回归


    匿名社交在中国何去何从


    用户需要的不是“隐私保护”,是“做选择”的权利


    匿名社交应用真的能做到匿名吗?

   
        匿名社交软件秘密:即使匿名发布 仍涉嫌侵权


    基于地理位置的匿名社交应用Yik Yak引发专家忧虑


    Secret与Whisper:匿名社交网络的是非之辩


    匿名社交强势回归


    匿名社交正成为中国互联网社交的下一片红海


    Secret入华 匿名社交路在何方?


    社交媒体被指成恐怖组织重要工具 优点是可匿名


    泰国监视社交媒体,逮捕批评者


    女子利用Twitter传播伪基站技术被刑拘





信息量够不够?不够的话自己可以再百度一下 谷歌两下。
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAC] TalkCoin | First Anonymous Chat | First NIST5 | Vote/No Premine on: June 23, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
Chinese
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=662014.0

Talkcoin Wants Your Communications Secure And Private
胡安·高尔特(Juan Galt): Talkcoin让您的通讯安全和私密
453  Local / 山寨币 / Re: 功能币来袭去:去中心化匿名聊天和匿名语音电话你更看好哪个? on: June 23, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
一个都不看好 都是嘘头 玩一把而已
匿名聊天是噱头? 这么说腾讯刚刚投资的匿名社交网站也是噱头?
454  Local / 山寨币 / Re: ★★★★★ 新币关注◆特点介绍 ★★★★★ (持续更新---大家参与) on: June 23, 2014, 05:27:17 PM


大家都了解些什么币,回帖介绍下,大家共同探讨
我就玩过比特币,马币,狗币,国际币四种.其余的没玩过呢!
马币、国际币, Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  我不说话 Grin
455  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★公开市场(OpenBazaar):利用比特币创建去中心化的eBay ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 04:51:00 PM
去中心化的市场不靠谱 有问题怎么解决啊
比特币就是去中心化的
456  Local / 山寨币 / Re: TAC推荐:✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ 2014下半年——功能币的崛起 ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
挺好的文章,后面加了段广告!
这是软文,不过不是太高明啊
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin请指教 Grin Grin Grin
457  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★万维网之父呼吁互联网重新去中心化 ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 12:30:53 PM
感觉楼主头脑清晰善于思辨啊 Grin Grin
去中心化的理想很好,但能否真正的完全的做到,如何做到,还是一个问题。。
没有人会相信比特币这玩意有一天会蹦出来,而且还挺受欢迎。 我要是提前知道, Cry哎,我的名气就比聪个大了
458  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★公开市场(OpenBazaar):利用比特币创建去中心化的eBay ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 12:06:35 PM
黑客就是牛逼,永远不失业的也只有黑客了  Cry Cry

哪有那么容易,不羡慕
肯定不容易啊,但是做出来就是很牛逼的产品了吧

自古牛逼有几人啊?
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
459  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★‘窃听攻击’威胁比特币匿名性 ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
匿名,匿名,匿名只会增加犯罪,
Bluis Jan是你的真名吗? Grin Grin Grin

你是不是已经走在了犯罪的道路上 Grin
460  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: ★互联网的去中心化 (2014年6月22日)✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔ on: June 23, 2014, 12:03:13 PM
楼主对匿名真的太多追求了,去中心化真的只是适当就好,太过头了就会让一些不法分子为所欲为了。
且行且珍惜吧,btc可成可败,就看我们怎么去完善它
比较中肯
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