Careful guys, as far as I know, you can't move the BET token yet. Buying EOS account (with BET token inside it) is like buying bitcoin wallet. Sellers know your keyphrase or your private keys. They still could access your EOS account. However, I'm not a hardcore EOS user so kindly correct me if I'm wrong  Yep, that was i saying. The seller would always have access to the wallet. And that would be a risky buy.
As far as i know, there is not a way to reset the private key.
Actually on EOS you can change the private key, both private keys (owner & active key) actually. So I can imagine the 3rd party escrow provider will give your funds to the seller after you changed the private keys. However it requires you to trust the 3rd party escrow provider. My advice is to just wait till BET gets listed. |
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I think this is as close as it gets but I would have loved to see the individual payments instead of the total. On this chart you see each day and how much eos was distributed to token holders which is if you think about it as close to what I want as possible so I enjoy it very much but at the same time I would like to see that in 10k per week as well, like what type of dividends people got per 10k tokens so we could know how much we could get each week if we hold bet token as well. Total works as well, we can calculate it ourselves on how much bet there is and how much total we can see there and then calculate how much we would have gotten as well so its fine. Some days it looks like it is record high and some days they get back to low so there is no clear uptrend for now so I will wait some more. I believe when you log in the website will make it specific to your EOS account. So it calculates it for the amount of BET you have in your account. |
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Is there a way we can see a chart for the dividends? I mean we can see the "expected per week" which is for 10k and I understand that but I feel like if we could see the previous payments for a time period we can see how high it got or high low it gets and what not. I am sure it is more and more every week but I would love to see it in a chart to understand what we can expect in the future as well.
It would allow us to decide if it will worth it in the future, right now that 1:20 ratio is not really worth it right now but since BET tokens are forever so maybe it will get higher in the future which will make it all worth it. For example maybe the payments will become like 100 dollars soon? Who knows and if that happens it will get sooner with the increase.
Hi Supercrypt, I myself use http://eospayout.com/app/?module=projects&p=bet maybe this is what you are looking for? How does the math work on this? There's market cap even though there's no tokens on sale? And payout for 10k bet on 7d and 30d doesn't add up. I don't know, it's not my site. I just use it for the total divs per day (which are correct as I've only checked that part). |
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Right now it is giving around 35$ for 10.000 tokens in a week. So that means 1820$ yearly. So 0.182$ is the yearly income from a token.
If it was dividend on a stock market it should be around 30 years roi but lets say 20 years because of crypto volatility.
That calculation brings a token value around 3.5$ right now. So i really wonder what will be the price after listed on exchanges.
This is a very small profitability for the cryptocurrency market, where with successful trading you can earn 5-10% per day. I would not risk for such a percentage of earnings as these tokens. currently, there are some players buying BET at price 0.5 USD. Despite it is not possible to trade or transfer now, people are swaping EOS accounts to buy BET Tokens. I am so excited to see litecoin betting online! So there's players who's selling the entire account for .5$ not sure if that's Worth knowing the potential of this coin and from what we are seeing the dividends really attracting those investors who's willing to take the risk, but it's still better to wait for the listing and see how this token will perform and how the investors will start owning this for passive earnings. Of course not the entire account for .5$, but entire account at 0.5$ per BET token. How that can be possible? I mean, the original owner would always have a way to access account? You can't change the phrase as far as i know. So how are they doing it? Not talking about EOSbet accounts. But normal EOS accounts. There are 3rd party services providing escrow for account buys/sells. Don't know where, google it if you want to know more. |
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I can't believe I have never really asked this question before but I realized I don't know if you get BET tokens when you play with bitcoin, do you get bet tokens when you play with bitcoin? If so how is it calculated ? Like I know its 1:20 in eos but how is it on bitcoin ? Is it the same ?
Like you calculate how much a bitcoin worth and how much eos worth on exchange rates and give bet tokens accordingly to people who bet with bitcoin ? If that is the case than will it be the same for litecoin as well ? Will people who bet with litecoin will be capable of playing here will get some bet tokens as well ? If those are true than what exchange rate its calculated from? Is it a place we know like binance/preev or whatever or is it a third party plugin that calculates it?
Yes you get BET for playing BTC and LTC. I don't know for LTC, but for BTC it's 80 BET per 1 BTC wagered (so cheaper than EOS at the moment). |
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Right now it is giving around 35$ for 10.000 tokens in a week. So that means 1820$ yearly. So 0.182$ is the yearly income from a token.
If it was dividend on a stock market it should be around 30 years roi but lets say 20 years because of crypto volatility.
That calculation brings a token value around 3.5$ right now. So i really wonder what will be the price after listed on exchanges.
This is a very small profitability for the cryptocurrency market, where with successful trading you can earn 5-10% per day. I would not risk for such a percentage of earnings as these tokens. currently, there are some players buying BET at price 0.5 USD. Despite it is not possible to trade or transfer now, people are swaping EOS accounts to buy BET Tokens. I am so excited to see litecoin betting online! So there's players who's selling the entire account for .5$ not sure if that's Worth knowing the potential of this coin and from what we are seeing the dividends really attracting those investors who's willing to take the risk, but it's still better to wait for the listing and see how this token will perform and how the investors will start owning this for passive earnings. Of course not the entire account for .5$, but entire account at 0.5$ per BET token. |
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Trying to reply to game-protect is a futile attempt, I have been around for years now and I have been seeing him everywhere in all casino topics and I have never seen him say "oh okay this one is good", he has always been hating on all casinos and never really accepting any casino to be decent at all. He seem to have some places he promotes because of legal things but even he doesn't write on their topic, he just likes to say how much he hates all casinos and say how illegal all casinos are. That is why I honestly think talking with him is not the right way to go because he will answer you, however if he asks something and you ignore him and do not reply he can write only few more things however in the end since he won't be getting any replies he will just leave, if you keep writing to him than he has a reason to stay around. Stop replying to him and eventually he will leave  . I am too emphasizing the same thing; just ignore him. The more you guys reply to him the more you will be getting idiotic responses, he will keep asking you more and more stuff that will make no sense like "when you bet bet token" which anyone that has ever visited the website even once would know not possible. Moving away from that town clown I want to ask one more thing, is there like a road map that you guys have in your mind to improve the website? The owners are getting free money thanks to their millions of bet tokens, they have made millions of eos and a lot of btc in profits. We gotta really know "what" they are working towards in the future, just "we are working on new things" is not enough, we should get a road map. As far as I know, they don't really have a roadmap. But they do communicate a lot with the community in telegram and have bi-weeky updates on their steemit. So far I know they had "Jackpot --> LTC --> HiLo --> BET Distribution" in the planning as we today got LTC released. Also 2 unannounced games have gotten a placeholder on the website and more currencies will be developed. No ETA's given. Not really a roadmap like many other projects. But than again, actions and good quality releases speak louder than a fancy roadmap on a website. If I got it wrong @EOSbet, please correct this |
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Is there a way we can see a chart for the dividends? I mean we can see the "expected per week" which is for 10k and I understand that but I feel like if we could see the previous payments for a time period we can see how high it got or high low it gets and what not. I am sure it is more and more every week but I would love to see it in a chart to understand what we can expect in the future as well.
It would allow us to decide if it will worth it in the future, right now that 1:20 ratio is not really worth it right now but since BET tokens are forever so maybe it will get higher in the future which will make it all worth it. For example maybe the payments will become like 100 dollars soon? Who knows and if that happens it will get sooner with the increase.
Hi Supercrypt, I myself use http://eospayout.com/app/?module=projects&p=bet maybe this is what you are looking for? |
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@EOSBet: can we expect a promotion to be announced as well with the LTC acceptance release?
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EOSBet just said in Telegram that LTC acceptance will be released tomorrow!! Than we'll get house edge paid in EOS, Botcoin & Litecoin |
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Trying to reply to game-protect is a futile attempt, I have been around for years now and I have been seeing him everywhere in all casino topics and I have never seen him say "oh okay this one is good", he has always been hating on all casinos and never really accepting any casino to be decent at all. He seem to have some places he promotes because of legal things but even he doesn't write on their topic, he just likes to say how much he hates all casinos and say how illegal all casinos are. That is why I honestly think talking with him is not the right way to go because he will answer you, however if he asks something and you ignore him and do not reply he can write only few more things however in the end since he won't be getting any replies he will just leave, if you keep writing to him than he has a reason to stay around. Stop replying to him and eventually he will leave . yeah you're right. I guess it's the only option we have left... So after a few slowly increasing dividend days, the last 4 days have been VERY good Now were at 6k EOS again and still 10.5 hour to go Hope LTC is being released soon, might have a good BET droprate like BTC as well, but still pretty fast (although not as fast as EOS). |
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You cant bet with BET tokens
If you can not bet with BET tokens and win EOS or BTC and if you can not sell them for cryptocurrency or FIAT money, then they are currently worthless! How do you determine how many BET tokens a player gets? Smart move, and when the BET begin to be listed in any exchange buying and storing it inside your wallet to keep accumulating more EOS and BTC rewards coming from the dividend shares, that's how things will work for me treating things as a passive investment venue.
Why are you misleading the gambling community with your nonsense? There is no investmrnt option and therefore no investment venue! You just received the following feedback: Paid signature spammer to create data dust without any connection to the reality to mislead the bitcointalk community! You are actually very much wrong. You cannot bet with BET token, but you can factually EARN BTC and EOS just by holding it (the more you play the more you receive). Once the BET token gets listed though, you will not only earn dividends through it but also have a real market value on it. So stay tuned and witness it for yourself. To be honest, we didn't get to where we are (no.1 ranked dApp) by scamming people! We are here because the community share our vision and keeps us going! man I dont think we should pay more efforts to defend EOSBET against this dude whatever his purpose is. Just keep doing your great job! Love your game! Love the divs! I guess you're right, he's just here to be ignorant, not doing any research at all, asking same questions which have been answered and proved already. |
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You cant bet with BET tokens
If you can not bet with BET tokens and win EOS or BTC and if you can not sell them for cryptocurrency or FIAT money, then they are currently worthless! How do you determine how many BET tokens a player gets? Well worthless to you apparently, BUT it's true value will be decided by the market when BET tokens will be listed. But FYI, the only use of a BET tokens is receiving part of the house edge (which is in EOS and BTC). The market will decide how much a BET will be worth when it's listed. |
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You cant bet with BET tokens
I would not even want to bet with BET tokens hehe, rather keep them and collect extra EOS/BTC from the house edge with it |
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While the number of bets increased eosbet has to ask themselves, is this going to be sustainable or will it be less in the future when people can't get that much dividends ? I mean right now people are wagering a lot and they are trying to lose as little as possible while wagering as much as possible to get those BET tokens but when the bet tokens are harder to get (or even finished and only could be bought from an exchange) will people continue to play ? Is the reason people play here so much caused by chance of getting BET tokens or is it because people really do want to play here ? If you could do that math between yourselves and can actually come up with a solution that will help you go beyond that BET token deal than I am sure you guys will rival the top for good.
I thought about this myself as well (of course). I think they do have something to offer next to BET tokens that will earn you some of the house edge for life. As there will only be 88M tokens (max supply), they will run out when every token is distributed through playing. From that day on they will have be a matured online casino that has enough actual gamblers to keep playing without getting any BET tokens. I do think they will be able to achieve this. My reasons are: 1. Provably fair: They are the only open source casino I know of that are fully on-chain. This is a huge benefit for players that want to be 100% sure the casino is not scamming them. EOSBet is the only casino where players can verify this. 2. Licensed: They're one of the few licensed casino in the crypto space. This allows them to go public, show up on events, blockchain/gaming conferences and be recognized by other companies and build relationships that can turn into partnerships. In fact they already are publicly speaking and marketing EOSBet on multiple blockchain and gaming conferences. 3. I believe the EOSBet DEV team is more than capable than creating good and fun games, with a good UI. No I don't believe they will win over every online gambler in the world, but at least a big part of it be a self sustaining casino. As reason 1 and 2 are pretty much facts, reason 3 is more of a personal believe I have, which only time will tell if this is true. |
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People bet with BTC or EOS never been about the USD amount attached to BTC or EOS We believe in crypto. Who creates the EOSbet tokens? Is the exchange of EOSbet tokens to USD guaranteed? If yes, who determines the exchange rate? Why you keep talking about EOSBet tokens? You don't play with EOSBet tokens, you play with EOS and BTC. However, most volume comes from EOS. They can't create EOS like you claim they can. Also every players account is in full control of it themselves as it's an EOS account of which the player only has the private key. I did not claim they can create EOS, I claimed they can create EOSBet tokens as much as they like and I thought players bet with EOSBet tokens. But that is now clarified. EOSBet token (BET) is not listed yet, so for the market value of BET tokens is not established yet. What is the function of the EOSBet token? However the wagers in their casino made in EOS (again not in control of EOSBet but of the EOS holder) do have market value as you can see on Coinmarketcap as EOS is ranked about 5 or 6th below Bitcoin. The casino can not steal bets or account balances? How does investment work? Again do some own research and all info can be found already. But specially for you: function of EOSBet token? Receive profit share Casino can not steal bbets or account balances? No they can't, you play directly from your own EOS wallet of which only you hold the private key. It's the same like when you trade on a decentralized exchange (Peer to peer transaction), they also don't hold your funds like a centralized exchange. So there is no deposit needed. Therefore EOSBet never holds your funds. How does investment work? You don't. They never was an ICO. All they did was setup a casino. You can gamble normal like any other casino (but provably fair as they are open source, are fully on-chain, even 3rd party statistical analysis have been done), but on top of the normal win or losses you get, you also get X amount of BET tokens when you play. Those BET tokens will entitle you to participate in all profit sharing. Profit sharing is 80% of revenue as 20% is used by EOSBet for operating costs. So actually they did not setup an investment proces at all. They only reward early adapters of their casino with BET tokens. However some people just play for the BET tokens and see it as an investment, they are not actually gamblers, but fundamentally it's only an extra rewards for a player playing games. Hope this clears things up for you more. |
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People bet with BTC or EOS never been about the USD amount attached to BTC or EOS We believe in crypto. Who creates the EOSbet tokens? Is the exchange of EOSbet tokens to USD guaranteed? If yes, who determines the exchange rate? Why you keep talking about EOSBet tokens? You don't play with EOSBet tokens, you play with EOS and BTC. However, most volume comes from EOS. They can't create EOS like you claim they can. Also every players account is in full control of it themselves as it's an EOS account of which the player only has the private key. EOSBet token (BET) is not listed yet, so for the market value of BET tokens is not established yet. However the wagers in their casino made in EOS (again not in control of EOSBet but of the EOS holder) do have market value as you can see on Coinmarketcap as EOS is ranked about 5 or 6th below Bitcoin. So at point of saying something X mount is wagered in USD it means the crypto (EOS) value wagered had a equivalent value of USD said at that point. |
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Seems like you will be negative all the time, hes clearly helping you out with the information you requested. If you had just spend 5 mins on the website you could find all this information. Its not USD, its token that's being bet with, hes referring to dappradars dollar amounts tracking.
He's just here to fud without doing actual research. For every new person here, please DYOR and see for yourself everything checks out. You can bet in EOS and BTC. On Dappradar (independent website) you can see the wagered amount per day and per week. They also for convenience show the USD value of that point in time. In other words the 3.6M spoken of above was wagered in EOS, which happen to be a total of 651.9k EOS that equaled 3.6M USD at that time. Where is the accounting / proof / documentation that 3.6 MIL USD was wagered on EOSbet within 24 hours? lol, does he know blockchain at all? Everyone can verify this on the blockchain. That's also where dappradar get the info from. As far as I understood, you are short in money and that is why you take investments. Again no proof at all. He is just here to fud. When you check this everything checks out just fine. That's the whole reason why blockchain is here to be fully accountable. That's why EOSBet is fully on-chain, not like many other casinos out there. seems like today will be the same! Yeah we broke the 10k today |
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I think it is obvious whats going on with people who dislike eosbet and who like eosbet. One part is showing what could be wrong about eosbet and more often than not they are correct as well, nobody can say eosbet is the perfect dice website can they, there are of course some things that do need improvement. However, people who say good things about eosbet are also correct, they are showing the great things about eosbet and they are provable stuff so they put it here showing how their great parts work.
So, we gotta come to a conclusion between ourselves to say that eosbet have some amazing things and they should be recognized but eosbet is new and it does have bunch of stuff that needs to get improved in the future as well. Nobody should think eosbet is perfect the way it is or its horrible as it is, its "decent", not bad but not great, somewhere in between.
I 100% agree here. Of course they are not going to market things they still need to work on. And I agree they have a long way to go. I just don't see the need for people fudding the good things or just straight say they scam without proof. As I'm invested in them I see a lot of good things, I see some less good things and a lot of room to grow. |
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