I can still play casino, so its not about protecting me..

This is exactly what im talking about. Casinos needs to protect their business - and thats cool.. if i won! Until im (if that would ever happend) breakeven, i can't see why this should happend.

They can start protect their own business, if i ever profit.. but if you lose and they froze you out, then its just not fair game pretty much unfair game man

Hey everyone,

I've been with Stake since 2020 and made it to Diamond level. I've always bet big and never complained, even though I mostly lose. But last week, I finally won. I bet on lots of live sports like soccer in Bundesliga and Premier League, making 20-30 bets with odds from 1.10 to 2.5, and ended up winning about $20k.

But then, I tried to place a $300 bet on a big soccer game and got denied. Suddenly, I can't bet the $1,000 to $10,000 I used to. It's strange because I've lost a lot of money there. I asked my VIP manager, Steve, why my limits were cut, and he said he'd check but nothing changed. They won't let me bet like before.

I looked at my stats and saw I'm down $220k. So, after one good week, they limit how much I can bet. It doesn't seem right to let me lose all this time and then restrict me when I finally win. I understand limiting winners but doing this to someone who's lost a lot feels wrong.

Customer service didn't help, just told me to bet less and brushed me off. Is this how they treat someone who's been loyal and lost over $220k in 4 years? I think it's important you all know how they treat players here. If you start winning, they might just cut you off.

Take care.

Hi guys.

Thanks for looking into this.

Had hoped support could solve it easy, but at least its fixed now. Thanks

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you.

The reason i didnt wait was that i have been on multiple travels with this casino and i want to be on good terms with them. It turns out i maybe was too kind, since i should have done as you said.

Hi.
Yes sorry i know its better with screenshots.
You understood it totally correct.
They claim the match was still going on at that time i placed the bet, which it wasnt. They first removed the match 7,5 hours later from the platform and claim that it ended there.

Its difficult because you need to have a solid bankroll to start with and an exeptional reach.

First you need to buy a solution + license  and that costs +150k. You need to pay monthly fees to the providers and a revenue share with them.

You need to pay big money to a celeb or some big streamers, and they only want to go with you - of you can pay them more than they already get. Thats kinda impossible.

You need players from day 1 to survive in the competition or Else your bankroll will be eaten up by fees and monthly expenses.

Today new casinos opens daily but there is always the doubled who stops operation. 1 opens, 2 closes. We are sadly 3-5 years to late. Unless you get an exeptional idea that can make your casino unique. I just brainstorm but an idea could be to invite one of the streamers to get a share of the company instead of just being an affiliate. That could maybe open some Doors to a big audience quite fast.

Hi guys.

Check this!
Please read from bottom to top - in that order.

They never closed the match, so markets kept being open despite that match already was ended.. I did place a bet and found out that this bet would be 100% void.. could not contact them so because i wanted to bet on something Else i cashed it out.  If they really are that stupid, they would maybe have paid full winnings? I guess not. The 3 F’s in their slogan doesnt match here. Fun = nah, Fair = 100% No, Fast = not with figuring out their website often have matches open even they are finished. Its a handball match with 2 half of 30 minutes. I was sure this request would have taken 2 minutes but they keep bullying.

This is the problem with Sportsbet.io. They have so many errors on their website but they act like its the first time they hear about this issue.



02:23
You can make screenshots to your heart's content.
Me: Can i get a copy of this chat?
02:22
We have double-checked everything and given you a detailed explanation with sources, I will close the chat now.
02:21
Me: Your own website showed the final result before i cashout my bet. Can’t you see that somewhere?
02:21
If you have no other requests I will close the chat.
02:19
This is the final say.
In circumstances where there are conflicting statistics between data sources, we reserve the right to settle at the discretion of our trading team and the provider.
(Link removed)
02:19
Me: Here is the official source
We settle bets at the discretion of our trading team and the bet provider.
02:18
Me: Betsapi is not official. They get their data from betting providers. No handball match is open for 8 hours
02:17
Is there anything else I can assist you with?
02:16
Our team double-checked and provided you with a source as an explanation for bet settlement. This is our final say regarding this matter.
Me: By a mistake you had the markets open or the match reporter forgot to close the match..
02:16
Me: I placed my bet almost 3 hours after the match started
02:15
Me: My bet would have won, but the result was known already.. If i didnt cash it out, you wouldnt have paid me either since the result was known.
Me: its a handball match 2 half of 30 minutes.
02:14
Me: Your own website even showed the full result when i cashed out the bet
02:13
Sir, we have provided you with a source.
02:13
Me: So according to you, the match lasted for 7,5 hours?
02:13
https://betsapi.com/rs/bet365/6889296/Viborg-HK-Women-vs-Team-Esbjerg-Women
02:11
The match started at 3:00 PM local time, ended at 10:30. You  placed the bet at 5:46.
I'm double-checking with the team.
02:07
Me: I placed the bet on 1st half. Its a league match from my country (Denmark). I opened the television few minutes after the bet was placed and could see the after match interviews and could see the final score. The people who just looked into this, missed something
02:06
Me: What time did the match end, and what time did i place the bet? You must have timestamps
02:03
I did, this is our final answer. Is there anything else I can assist you with?
02:03
Me: the match was ended 20 mins before i placed the bet
02:03
Me: do your job
02:02
Me: Please
Since I have not heard from you, I will now close this conversation. If you have any other queries, feel free to contact us again. Have a nice day!
02:02
Hence the cashout will stay in place and it will not be voided, sorry.
02:00
Thank you for waiting, our Sportsbet team looked into the matter, but did not detect any issue with the bet placement and the markets were accurate at the time of the bet.
01:55
Me: Tried to contact you before i cashed out but there was an error that didnt make the chat window pop up, so i took a Quick decision to cash out
01:55
Thanks
01:53
Ok, I will look into this.
01:53
Me: i believe in all fairness that this bet would have been void and that my cashout loss should be refunded, since the bet was not valid

01:52
Me:
I placed the bet, but found out later that the match was already ended and that it was a mistake i was offered the option to place this bet

i then cashed it out for 60 USDT less

01:51
Me: this bet 654669a24149c60001c5bbcd
01:51
Hi

Are you from Rollbit or?
They never scammed me, but if i didnt withdraw the last 10K balance i had in there before i was banned.. then i would have been scammed. Cause i got a bonus like almost a year ago, since then i only deposited and withdrew with my own money (and yes money that i won, but that doesnt matter here. A deposit is a deposit.)

Have you ever looked in the Rollbit thread or searched their name? Its full of unresolved issues with people who got confiscated life changing money without any accurate explanation. So when Rollbit support joins a post thats getting to hot with a reason to the issue being “ Our sportsbook provider Betby warned us and confirmed 100% abuse” then you think its resolved. I read about confiscations every week. Where do you read?

One day it might be you who got extremely lucky and suddenly the money you won would be gone and you might be left out of the account with no further explanation. Imagine comming here with your case and meet people like yourself, who more trust a shady brand that you know absolutely nothing about.

Yes, they reached out to me, and i requested that i would give them the username here public if they would be 100% detailed about what i did, so people in here could make their own opinion if it was fair or not. Did support answer that? Nope.

Btw i didnt post this in scam accusations cause i was not scammed, but if you were betting in there right now.. i could hopefully help you a bit to read this so you knew that “ okay i have a good balance here on a brand that multiple people actually got their money confiscated from.. maybe i should withdraw it”.

See it as a help. That was my intention.

What a wierd message dude.. I am not allowed to post here because i won money?
i warn people..
If you ever had like a 10k balance on Rollbit, im telling people to cash out, cause these people bans accounts, ignoring messages. Lucky for me is that i didnt have money in there when it happend, but maybe you had? If you then came across this post you would maybe consider taking the money out. You for sure can’t say i didnt warn you.

Regarding proofs..

I also provided proofs of their unresponsiveness and i also passed a link for  stakecommunity where all recieved a bonus from Rollbit at the same time. How can you make such an ignorant message if you dont go through it all?

I GUESS ( and try to understand that it really is a guess, but i do think Im right cause a know the Industry pretty well) somebody from Stake or a hacker sold a list to Rollbit with very valueable info. If i deposit +1M$ on Stake, then its obvious that they try with a 6K bonus rather than sending a 100$ to me. It worked.. but because of my luck it didnt pay off. My activity in there has been 80% casino and 20% sports.

I couldnt care less about Rollbit, i just tell people that Rollbit is Wild Wild West and People’s money can be gone forever without any explanation about what happend.

Honestly - after looking around in here.. How many post is about users getting confiscated crazy amount like 20K+. People in here is somehow always trying to defend the casinos actions and eats the answers from the casino raw. Look at him Razors answers “ yea 100% sports abuse confirmed”. He said that to another post, but didnt get detailed or provided any proofs and people started to call the OP of that post an abusers. People afraid of pushing that Razor guy? Is he god?

I believe many people got their money confiscated unjustified from this casino as its uses shady methods to get players, all mods and support uses nicknames and there is no official person with a real name public for this casino.. also too many people who got their balance confiscated. Would never happend with a more serious license like Malta or UK. Here they would be forced into getting detailed. Curacao is just a cheap license with no real option to get a complaint resolved by professionals. The people who reply to a complaint can’t even write proper english.
The bonus i got from Rollbit is even higher than what it cost to accuire a license in curacao.

Not saying that all curacao brands are shady.. you just have to be careful. I 100% trust Stake.. they are big enough to run a proper business and you know the owners. Nothing is hidden. Real names and pictures of support.
Rollbit is a totally different league bro. Ride the wave, until you get shaved.

I made placed 10-20 bets 1.01, +20 bets 1.1, and the rest is casino..

And guys try to understand the 6K bonus i got was upon sign up. i cashed out, and did spend it again in there afterwards where i won big on CASINO. The only promotion/bonus was the 6K with No strings attached, they promotion ended after i cashed the money out and they became mine. Afterwards only my own deposits (from the won money) were used and i didnt recieve any other promotion after this (from signup until now - 8-9 months period). The only promotions os the Weekly and monthly bonus which everybody gets - and they always suck at this casino..

I am mainly a casino player, dont get offered special bonuses except for the signup 6K bonus and that bonus ended the same day since i cashed out. The betting on 1.01 has taken place but we are talking about 3 times a week maybe but i still placed more bets on higher odds like min. 1.10

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And the CHATGPT thing is because i asked it to correct my english, so if the post sounds a bit too professional, Thats because of that :-)

Spot on

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

Hi!
Thanks for looking into this.

I was thinking, based on your replies to other issues regarding “sportsbook abuse”, could we then try something new to show some transparancy and make users make their own opinions about whats going on?

What you clarify exactly what i did wrong? Post the bets you think were abusive.. cause the more i think about it, the more Im sure i actually placed 1.1 odds bets rather than 1.01..

I have seen you only just post “yes 100% sportsbook abuse” .. i would like it detailed exactly what happend and why. Could we do that?

No, at Stake my VIP manager told me about betting on 1.01 since it would make me rank even faster. I asked him for advices, and Thats what He came up with.

Rollbit once started to send out bonus promotions to several stake users. I think they bought a hacked e-mail list for all stake users. Some got 100€ and some like me got 6k. You can see many users were contacted here:

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/69364-email-from-diffrente-casino-anyone-else-got-it/#comment-1482952

I work in the affiliate business and often gets contacted by shady people asking if we want to buy list of data for players - like usernames, e-mails, vip status and loss/winnings. Of course i say no to such things, but Rollbit seems to have taken the chance.

I am asking them why i can’t login.. Thats it? I dont go into a discussion about it.

People here talk to much about the promotion. I got those 6k like 8-9 months ago, and cashed them out the same day. Did spend the same money on daily/Weekly deposits where i also won very big.

Stop talking about that promotion. I only mentionened it to make people understand i was a winning player since they never got any of my “own” money. All deposits made from me is from cashouts made from that account.

I just believe they look at the ROI and saw they lost too much on me and then came up with such excuse. I just want to warn others who might be in profit to take your money out, and only deposit money you wont cry about if they confiscate. Rollbit is not transparent, and they can always close your account without letting you know why.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”. 
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.


People here needs to understand that the promotion was a sign up bonus, which i could have cashed out instantly since there was no strings attached.

To odds on a 1.01 bet is not abusive at all, and it maybe happend like 10-20 times out of a thousand bets. Its normal for people who wants to climb the ranks to bet like that. I do that on Stake as well, and thats totally ok. Its not unusal that people also lose on odds 1.01, that happend to me as well.   Like Chelsea is up 3-1 in 80 minute, you place a odds 1.01 and the other team scores 2 goals the next 10 minutes.. It happends often!

Its like betting on Crash and cash it out on 1.01, is that abusive as well? People needs to understand that such bets is ok! You can climb the ranks faster but you lose big money when it fails. Its normal and totally ok.

I dont intend to speak fore to them.. Im fine with that being closed for good when they ban people without explanation, and i leave with good profit. I just want to make people aware that they can’t trust them at all.. Getting banned without knowing the reason is crazy and i wish for nobody to have balance in there while this happend.

Also remember that Rollbit is non transparent at all. No names on owners, all support/admins uses nicknames and they decide the communication.. if they dont want to discuss with you, they stop answeing. Thats how they do.

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

 It is completely understood that I don't know any of the teams. I placed my bet based on the data I could see for the game, specifically the number of points scored in the first and second quarters, and quickly decided to bet on over 47.5 points in the third quarter. The statistics were in my favor compared to where they had set the spread. I would follow the game and went to bet365, but the game was not there. So, I tried going to 1xbit and they even showed the game live. I opened the live stream and immediately saw that it was one of these so-called fake matches from the 1x empire.

I believe that the organizers of these matches have made a deal with Sportradar or another reporting service that reports the scores.

I know that Sportradar also reports how much is being played on which outcomes. Sportradar is often used in the fight against match-fixing by reporting obvious large bets to football associations around the world so they can investigate if there has been any match-fixing involved. Unfortunately, the organizer of the match is simply the big player behind it all (1x empire).

In this way, they can ensure that the markets that most people have bet on do not come to fruition. This is a big advantage for the 1x empire, and it allows them to finance these matches running 24/7. We are probably talking about at least 10 different matches across all sports going on at the same time - 24/7!. There are both Russian matches, but there are also matches in China like the one I bet on. I know it sounds strange and crazy, but it's true. It's totally shady. When I used to play on 1xbit, I learned the hard way and have always been cautious about which matches I played on there ever since. I always had to make sure it wasn't one of their own hosted matches. It's just to my great surprise that I come across such a match on sportsbet.io now.

Would it increase my credibility if I ask the official Chinese basketball federation if they are familiar with a league called New League and if they know either of the two teams?

I warn you. Check if the game is official before you play. I discovered this today. It surprises me that people haven't brought it up before.

Trust me, I have gambled my whole life and seen the industry from behind the scenes through my many years as an affiliate. These Corona matches are a huge problem. They bring sports betting into disrepute.

Sorry! Im just nervous which way Crypto sportsbetting is going these days. I did withdraw +25k last month from sportsbet - No trouble at all. This bet is a small one for 450€.. so its just the princip. If you go on 1xbit you can find leagues you have never heard of before with a HD live stream on the matches. Those games are self hosted and so rigged, so it was just so fustrating to go on 1xbit, open the stream and find out that it was one of their rigged matches, i did place a bet on from sportsbet.

There is no organizer of the event, the teams does not exist. No official information at all.. because the teams dont exists. Its a rigged match from the 1x-emperium. You can find these matches 24/7 daily (football, handball, basketball, cricket and icehockey). You can’t even find the result of the match  from any source except from 1x-brands result page.