Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky

[benalexis12]

First of all, according to your story, before your Rollbit account was closed, you were able to withdraw your balance from their wallet, correct? Then what is not clear to me is that you received $6,000. Is it $6000 in dollars or 6000 in free spins? And it looks like you're a high-level Diamond player, doesn't it? And the amount of money you released using the Rollbit platform last year was also large, between 50k and 80k.Maybe it can be said that you are still lucky because you were also able to withdraw a large amount from the Rollbit platform before they blocked your account. But your account is also a waste because you are also a diamond player level in Rollbit. Maybe you should try to follow up to find out the reason why your account is disabled.

[Wind_FURY]

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

[Haunebu]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

[Shishir99]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

This is the case where Rollbit released the fund and blocked his account. We have seen another case where the user was banned with a couple of thousands of dollars for the same generic "sportsbook abuse". Later a guy from this forum created a thread in reputation board and accused the campaign manager for misusing his forum reputation.

I did not participated in those drama but I guess the case is still open in scam accusation board. My one and simple suggestions to casinos, if you do not allow something, block it. If one user abuse it, you already know how it was abused, why did you keep it open?

[Coin_trader]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

To be honest it does not make sense. You give me an option then when I use it you tell me I abused it, it is not allowed. Is it a joke?
If that happen to me then I will be mad and will not think a second to create a flag against the casino.

Rollbit is very aware of it as far as I can remember now. In a thread they talked about it as well.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused. My previous comment is only illustrating what the casino think for a player that doing this kind of strategy since the OP is asking on reason why he got ban. The casino clearly doesn’t stated this rule specifically that’s why this user manage to withdraw his profit meaning his method doesn’t violate the ToS. But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

My one and simple suggestions to casinos, if you do not allow something, block it. If one user abuse it, you already know how it was abused, why did you keep it open?

Because adding more stricter rule will not be appetizing to players. Blackjack.fun add this kind of rules too on their promotion and I personally stop participating due to too much restrictions.

Maybe only few players do this. I guess?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused.

Sorry if you feel that way. With due respect your and my categorizing of looking it as abuse or not does not change anything to be honest.

[goldkingcoiner]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

It sounds like you may have done something which goes against the terms of service but lucky for you, you took out your money from that platform, into your own, personal wallet. Good job! I would not even go as far as to call that luck, but rather a smart decision not to hold crypto on a third party wallet. You would have definitely lost your money if you did.

Same goes for every wallet which is not your own(like exchange wallets). Not your keys, not your wallet.

[Sandra_hakeem]

You went to it extremes to have been booking games with such odds...most especially for the fact that you were given a grant/starter-pack as you said - I feel it's not profitable to the casino and in general, downgrades the reasons for getting such huge starter packs...
Secondly, you went away with the funds - I understand anyone would wanna do the same (not me though) but, I think that's also a reason because anything that would have made you withdrawn all the funds at the time, wasn't something good at all.... You're not expecting to act  based on your own jurisdictions; they've got TS/C's remember??

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[boyptc]

There's always two sides of the story.

But if it they reason out that you have abused their promotion and system even if you didn't do so, there's really nothing you can do to defend that to them.

It's just like one way of eliminating those gamblers that are into their promotions and yet they're winning a lot and cashes out money without even depositing.

That's why they can change or alter their rules without prior notice and that's why you can't do such appeal when they've already placed a banner on your head.

[Magoo8]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

why did they give you 6k?

[Wexnident]

Won't really know anything unless Rollbit says their claim about what abuse you said, OP talking about the 1.01 thing is only his assumption, not really a guarantee that it's the cause (unless other users also provide the same reason, then maybe we can safely assume that). Seeing as Stake allows it though it may just vary from casino to casino, guess Rollbit is just that much stricter when it comes to stuff like that. OP not also depositing anything but winning a lot might've also been a factor tbf.

Kind of curious how you were rewarded though for being a Diamond stake member. Did they have something like that since before?

[Slow death]

I confess that I read it several times to understand where you were wrong, and I confess that I didn't understand, because let's see the following: the casino gave you 6000$, you didn't ask them for that money, you didn't steal that money, you didn't cheat the casino to get that money, you didn't cheat to get that money, it was the casino that put that money in your account, so up until now you haven't done anything wrong. Now let's talk about the betting part, who placed bets with odd values of 1.01? The answer is simple: it was the casino, do you work at the casino to set odds of 1.01? no. you don't work at the casino;

So where in their TOS does it say that placing bets with odds of 1.01 is prohibited? Where in their casino's tomos does it say that betting on games with odds of 1.01 is considered cheating? If their texts don't say anything about it, then betting on games with odds of 1.01 isn't cheating, it's not abuse. It is necessary for the casino to create clear betting rules when involving bonuses, if the casino believes that odds of 1.01 should not be part of the bonus requirements then it is enough to state in the tos that only games with odds above 1.50 will be valid to increase the level of accounts and bonus requirements, that the problem is resolved.

now to say that it is abuse when there is nothing in their TOS that says that it is abuse to bet on games with odds of 1.01, I think this is wrong, I believe that the casino needs to make it very clear in their TOS if they do not like betting on 1.01. I don't know how it is possible for a casino to offer $6000 without them saying why they are giving such an amount of money

[Coin_trader]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.
Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

It’s their way to restrict players that is unprofitable. Again, I'm not telling this as support to the casino because I'm a player too but it's their term. Their ToS stated this line on their ToS.

3.13. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to suspend a client account without prior notice.

ToS is available upon registration. We don't have a choice than to follow it so expect this kind of move to this casino. This is why reading the ToS will help everyone here to accept easily all the decision by the casino.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused.

Sorry if you feel that way. With due respect your and my categorizing of looking it as abuse or not does not change anything to be honest.

It's useless now to continue this discussion since we are already off-topic if you don't consider my post as answer to this thread because I made that post related to this thread topic and not to directly address your opinion since you are the one who quoted it. I'm giving the OP the possible reason for his ban.

[Porfirii]

Isn't that the usual policy in Las Vegas? I mean, suddenly certain player starts winning big amounts and, shortly after, he is invited to leave the casino and not come back.

IMO, betting with 1.01, although many of you see it as cheating, is not wrong; in fact, the probability long term is the same (you have to bet 100 times to double, and chances are that you lose everything in one of those bets).

On the other hand, using it as a way to easily wager and withdraw such big bonuses you got for free is not very honorable, but as a colleague said, this is something to be controlled on beforehand by the casino, and not really users fault. But then, back to the start of this post, the user should expect to be "invited to leave".

[noormcs5]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

First what is the role of ChatGPT in all this case ? You mean that Rollbit got to know that you are a diamond level player at stake.com, through ChatGPT ? I don't think that chatGPT has such information of the users within the platform.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

You first received 6K bonus and then you received more bonuses that amount to the total of 14K bonus in your rollbit account. You think that they were doing this bonus transfers to your account as they thought that you will start depositing also ? I don't think rollbit needs to do such acts.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

[Kakmakr]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

[fritvalg]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

Spot on

[Dave1]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

I would agree that competition is really tough across all gambling platforms, even in landbased casinos, whales are given special privilege because if he jumps in to join and move to their competition, it's done for them. I personally know a big whale here in my country that's why I can attest to the influence of this big whales and high rollers.

Not sure though as per OP how did one casino share or get his information though that's why he was offered the money as you described because in the other casinos that he mentioned perhaps he as a Diamond member already?

[fritvalg]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I made placed 10-20 bets 1.01, +20 bets 1.1, and the rest is casino..

And guys try to understand the 6K bonus i got was upon sign up. i cashed out, and did spend it again in there afterwards where i won big on CASINO. The only promotion/bonus was the 6K with No strings attached, they promotion ended after i cashed the money out and they became mine. Afterwards only my own deposits (from the won money) were used and i didnt recieve any other promotion after this (from signup until now - 8-9 months period). The only promotions os the Weekly and monthly bonus which everybody gets - and they always suck at this casino..

I am mainly a casino player, dont get offered special bonuses except for the signup 6K bonus and that bonus ended the same day since i cashed out. The betting on 1.01 has taken place but we are talking about 3 times a week maybe but i still placed more bets on higher odds like min. 1.10

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And the CHATGPT thing is because i asked it to correct my english, so if the post sounds a bit too professional, Thats because of that :-)