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1  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 09, 2019, 02:58:10 AM
Why the hell is your site hosted on the clearweb and only additionally on Tor?
Our site is hosted on Tor and only additionaly on clearweb.
Clearweb site allows clearnet users to get some privacy. We suggest all to use Tor.

With an unrelated .com and a Tor .onion on an unknown server you could make sure that the mixes will always be private.
Should we advertise that unrelated .com or keep it secret? How does it make mixes private?

For transparency reason - there is a scam accusation against ChipMixer active:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173144.msg52085359#msg52085359


It is pretty clear IMHO, have a .com domain only for advertising and to explain how to get to the .onion.

That is the only secure way of doing it.

If you run the server on .com and .onion, tor will protect users traffic but won't hide your servers location, so it is possible for law enforcement to find the server and to try to get inside.
And don't tell me they can't, if it is important for them, they will break encryption with some cold boot attack.

Of course you could say the .com is an extra server, and it connects to the .onion using the tor network.
That would make your server hidden again, but how can users trust that?
You could just say it is an extra server, but in reality it is all the same.

Conclusion: Host sensitive things like a mixer that is in full spotlight because of the binance hack etc only on .onion

In case you are considering doing the only right thing, and fix this, you should rent a new server, transfer all data using tor from the old server to the new server.
Then wipe the old server and never use it again.

Point the .com to some unrelated offshore hosting, like bitblender did.

And never connect to the new server with your real ip or VPN, tor only!
Because if they were already watching the old server, and you connected with anything except tor, they will also watch your ISP / VPN.

And better get a new .onion, since the private_key was on your old server, i would consider it compromised.

If i don't get only stupid replies, i will write a short guide on how to run a mixer that is actually secure and working.
I put a lot of thought into it, and the only one who ever got it right was bitblender.
For various reasons which i can explain.
2  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 06:37:27 PM
You are super naive, but i guess your personal safety does not depend on the mixer you are signature shilling.
Never attribute malice to what could equally well be attributed to stupidity i guess  Roll Eyes
3  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
If you are talking about my username, no, i am only looking for someone to mix my coins, but there seem to be 0 options who take privacy 100% serious.
you can pick one of many mixers out there and noone is forcing you to use chipmixer,
but why are you questioning only chipmixer and not also the other mixers?
about privacy, chipmixer doesn't require registration, your email address, name or any personal info
if you don't like centralized mixer, you can try built-in coinjoin transaction in wasabi or samourai wallet

I am just wondering why no mixer runs exclusively on tor anymore.
I also asked in other mixers threads, but someone deleted my posts, maybe because it was the same text  Roll Eyes

I think centralized mixers would be way better than current coinjoin implementations, but only if run on tor.
4  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 05:24:47 PM
You don't have to encourage money laundering, mixers only exist for money laundering.
Everyone knows that they are mainly used by criminals.
And just pretending you don't know about money laundering, or don't encourage it, will make very little difference in court.
Even if they don't put mixer operators in jail, why would you think law enforcement does not want the data on the servers? Of course they do, it is just a matter of time until more mixers get shut down.
Or even worse, they let them running to catch people.
Maybe those operators should do less signature campaigns and start thinking about how to really cover their ass.
Meanwhile, why should i trust my data to one of those mixers, if they are too incompetent to understand that they are playing with fire with their .com servers?
5  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 03:02:22 PM
More like data of dummies using this snake oil.

Summat tells me you're about to launch a 'revolutionary' mixing service. You have an uphill battle.

If you are talking about my username, no, i am only looking for someone to mix my coins, but there seem to be 0 options who take privacy 100% serious.
6  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 02:15:42 PM
Rofl, dummy data.
I will create a darknet marketplace today, run it on a .com, but dont worry, we will have lots of dummy data  Cool Roll Eyes
More like data of dummies using this snake oil.
7  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 07, 2019, 01:38:32 PM
Bitblender was Tor only and closed the site themself.
They closed because they made enough money and did not want to end in jail.

Bestmixer got shut down, nobody got arrested, but they clearly got all the data from the mixer, and the bestmixer guy was even promising all those things you mentioned.

To me this is just talking, if a server is hosted on the clearnet, you don't even need to break the encryption of the server. Hosting provider will have the SSL cert, so they can just watch ALL traffic and nobody even notices.
Those current mixer providers are just good salesman, using fancy words, i would not trust any of them to be competent.
They are clearly not competent if they choose to host on a .com and not a .onion


The fact that 2 paid shills are telling me everything is ok, instead of the admin giving some real answer to me makes me sick tbh.

Have fun with your pretend mixers everyone  Roll Eyes
8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Blender, anonymous bitcoin mixer on: August 06, 2019, 11:52:28 PM
Bitblender admin, please reactivate your website for 1 time. Say a exact date and time, and all user can withdraw their coins. It's very inportant for me and i think us all.
there is no chance that the admin will bring back your money.
What a wonder a mixer on the darknet goes to scam XD


regards

Yes, let's all use clearweb mixers now, law enforcement will never infiltrate servers without anyone even knowing until it is way too late.  Roll Eyes
9  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 06, 2019, 11:22:24 PM
We do believe that ChipMixer is most transparent mixer. We provide information how our mixing work and most important - why.

One question, since you seem to be serious about providing a working service:

Why the hell is your site hosted on the clearweb and only additionally on Tor?

You just hope that no law enforcement agency will ever try to infiltrate your server?

With an unrelated .com and a Tor .onion on an unknown server you could make sure that the mixes will always be private.

The way it is now, better assume you have already been compromised.

If you do it on a clearweb server so you get more newb customers and more money, you could just run a scam mixer like others.

I don't want to attack you or anything, i just noticed since bitblender is gone, all mixers are on the clearweb. Why would anyone think this can be a save mixer to use?
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