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41  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 28, 2019, 03:25:08 PM
From a historical point of view, the "ecash.pdf" file is older than the "bitcoin.pdf".

Actually, we can't be sure of the text inside. Because this is not an original.

BUT!!! I have a good new. I found a october 3, 2008 version! The one i was searching for! (but an original ecash.pdf can be older)

HERE is the rare 2008 version : https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/20081003-nakamoto-bitcoindraft.pdf

After a quick study, i can tell u there is small but existing differences in the text, between 2008 and 2009 documents.

And in the structure, 2008 pdf was created on a UNIX system, and the 2009, on a Mac. Interesting!
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 07:02:12 PM
@DdmrDdmr : thx for your answer. One cool guy on twitter sent me a copy of this ecash.pdf. Unfortunatly, this document isn't the exact copy of the original mailed to Hal Finney. I can read in the metadata the file was created in 2017 (probably a copy/past).  Undecided

@Heisenberg_Hunter : Yes, that's funny to think only 2 guys (Hal was one of them) was giving Satochi's project credits at the time. And that's ALWAYS the same with all the success stories: Apple, etc.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
An older version from the newsletter exist : https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html as you can see, one version was available in october 31, 2008. Maybe there is another one, older, from the time only Hal Finney and another guy was interested in satoshi's work.

If im not clear enough, translation are just here for the example. I don't need them, and what is written inside too. Im interested by the STRUCTURE of the file. I want to know if the white paper 2009 version is bugged or if it's hidding something.

To be sure eveybody understand me, i will post a picture: actual BTC White Paper / random PDF (and 99% of other pdf look like that).


44  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 11:40:18 AM
According to bitcoin.org, the original whitepaper is the English one. You can check it here:

https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper

There are many translated versions, this Chinese one will work.

I know the english one is the first. What im asking for is the original, created in 2008, version of the white paper. All the version i found online are from 2009 (what's written in the metadata).

Translated version aren't inportant. I talk about them because of the way the files are actually encoded. If im not clear, try to open the English version with notepad and you will understand.
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 01:18:03 AM
Go here: https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/ download a translated pdf of the white paper and try to open it with notepad.
After that, do the same with english version and you will found a very different code, only in Chinese (no english or Japanese).
46  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Original BTC White paper from Satoshi Nakamoto on: August 27, 2019, 12:00:35 AM
Hello,

im actually searching for the very first version of the white paper published by Satoshi Nakamoto in 2008, on Cryptography Mailing List.

The actual one, available everywhere is edited (from 2009) and give a weird Chinese code when open with a txt editor.
47  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC invisibles on Electrum Wallets? on: August 23, 2019, 08:05:31 AM
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/5577
48  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC invisibles on Electrum Wallets? on: August 22, 2019, 06:36:41 PM
Abdussamad, are you hosting a full node?

On my research, i was able to see some transactions from the very end of 2010. Im not giving in conspiracy, but that's the moment Satochi leaved this forum Grin

I will try to talk with Electrum developers. They can certainly solve this mystery easily.
49  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC invisibles on Electrum Wallets? on: August 22, 2019, 01:57:18 PM
Satoshi's Genesis block address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

Hal Finney first transaction 1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

Are you hosting a full node? (if someone do, plz try this addresses and tell us if you can see Satochi's BTC in "read only" wallet)
50  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC invisibles on Electrum Wallets? on: August 22, 2019, 01:46:35 PM
I know now than the first 50 BTC are unspendable. It is a logic explanation.

But what about the others blocks rewards? Because that's acutally the same! As i said: on block 170 (the first transaction), the 10BTC sent my Satoshi to Hal Finney are invisibles too.

If All the blocks (ant their rewards) mined by Satoshi are considered unsendable by the network, this is the answer to the 10 billions dollars question: Why Satoshi never used his BTC?
51  Bitcoin / Electrum / Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC invisibles on Electrum Wallets? on: August 22, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
Hello guys! French Crypto beginner here (with broken english  Grin)!

Im slowly discovering wallets fonctions everyday, and my last discovery is the "read only" wallet.

Of course, one of Satoshi's accounts was my first try.

But i noticed something: there is a difference in total, when i compare the wallet with Electrum and on blockchain.com...

Satoshi's BTC are invisibles!



Is it a problem with Satoshi's mined BTC (protected)? Or Electrum database is uncomplete (nothing before 2010)?



That's the same on Hal Finney wallet: the 10 BTC sent by Satoshi are not visibles.
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