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1  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 18, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
i summarize my experience for the past 4 months
this is one of the less paying micro earning i ever scene on the web i am at 1000HP power and after doing all the mining and missions all the time i own 200Doge coin and 2400 Satoshi seriously? a simple faucet can make you this in 1 week
so where is the catch between this CMG ?, maybe i missing something here

The catch is that the CMG project was overambitious while having a very small team (1?) and basically is a failed project
The Admin (Jamboon) greatly overestimated the revenue this site would generate, by the means chosen of creating said revenue

I think that is the main reason why the shift is now going towards becoming a "real" browser/mobile game which can be better monetized en so creates a more stable income for the Admin


it make sense
and now what, they dont pay HP for doing missions when i reached above 1000 HP, i am really scammed with this, how do i get more HP ?

Hpower is basically a multiplier that generated money out of thin air, hence why this system didn't work and was changed and nerfed.

You can still buy Hpower 1year "contracts" but will do so at a loss.
Then you can get "free" Hpower from chests and such, but these are small amounts and currently i think also only valid 1 year after receiving.

According to Jamboom v2 of CMG (basically a browser cardgame with some RPG elements) will replace the old system in a week or two anyway, and by doing so the whole Hpower system will change too
There is various, but somewhat obscure and incomplete information about what is going to change and happen on v2, to be found deeper in this thread, the news archive on CMG and some other channels (FB,Twitter,Youtube and Patreon) that Jamboom maintains.
You'll have to dig in various places though to get a (vague) idea of it.

Best things you can do now is use the site as is and not worry about too lot since a lot gets changed again soon.
I do think you should not expect an increase in potential earnings on the v2 of CMG though, more likely a decrease.

About you being "scammed", i cannot remember if there was any promise of anybody receiving Hpower on doing missions once you earned 1000Hpower (so buying Hpower didn't count towards that initial 1000Hpower.
In this aspect you have not been scammed
2  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 14, 2019, 08:38:07 AM
Is it me or is the website crazy slow the past day(s)?

I can almost do nothing
3  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 10, 2019, 09:11:20 AM
i summarize my experience for the past 4 months
this is one of the less paying micro earning i ever scene on the web i am at 1000HP power and after doing all the mining and missions all the time i own 200Doge coin and 2400 Satoshi seriously? a simple faucet can make you this in 1 week
so where is the catch between this CMG ?, maybe i missing something here

The catch is that the CMG project was overambitious while having a very small team (1?) and basically is a failed project
The Admin (Jamboon) greatly overestimated the revenue this site would generate, by the means chosen of creating said revenue

I think that is the main reason why the shift is now going towards becoming a "real" browser/mobile game which can be better monetized en so creates a more stable income for the Admin
4  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 09, 2019, 04:21:50 PM
A poll asking about a dedicated CMG forum, where only Patrons can vote? Funny!
Anyway, here's my 5 cents:

Literally ALL forums that ever opened on faucet sites got overwhelmed by users seeking support that they couldn't get from the site support.
There's no point in opening a forum, unless you first implement a site support that is so good that 99% of all users are completely satisfied with it.
Such a support is plain impossible, simply because the cost of such a support far exceeds the revenue of the site.

But even IFFFFFF you could have such a good support, your forum would still get overwhelmed by cheaters who got their payment denied and try anything to still get paid, up to 100s of signups per cheater just to flood the forum.

What you CAN have is what Cointiply is doing, which is an on site chat, where volunteer moderators are given the power to ban disruptive users from the chat, where these moderators receive some premium features (such as loyalty bonus protection without daily claims) for free.
I'm one of the moderators at Cointiply and I can tell you from my own experience, it works quite well.
Not at last this chat and the disruptive users in there are one of the best possible indications, where cheaters give themselves away by their behavior.

LOL Thomasio, you beat me to it in seconds ^^

I disagree however with the suggestion of chat (for now) for many reasons similar as written in my previous post
Also new users logging and finding lots of negativity might scare of newbies before even starting, in the current state there is too much too complain about and i do not see that getting less soon anyway.
5  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 09, 2019, 04:14:11 PM
A poll about a forum for CMG but voting seems only accessible for Patreons?

Do the opinions of the thousand of long-term users not matter over those of maybe a few hundred patreons?

You have means of discussion with your Patreons on Patreon

You have this thread on bitcointalk to communicate with other users.

Another channel of communication seems useless to me and a focus on wrong priorities at this point

Again focusing on far far future developments and unwanted features before even finishing the current things you are working on

What is next? "Withdraws will be delayed(even more - again) because i (Jamboon) am working on setting up the forum,- sorry for the convenience" Huh

Finish what you started, fix what is broken, pay your members in a reasonable amount of time, is what the focus should be on

In the current situation i think if you opened a forum, that place also gets flooded with negative comments by disgruntled users.
You do not have the time to administer your own site as is, how do you want to moderate such a forum?


TL;DR:

No i do not think it is a good idea
6  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 07, 2019, 11:25:36 PM
So if we don't need to battle, and faucet earnings stay somewhat the same, ...

...

Also seeing you already struggle to payout faucetearnings, how are you planning to gain a source of income to enable earnings(of crypto) in that game?

Payout won't remain the same.
Moving all HP above 1000 to mining a token instead of cryptos means for all premium users a gigantic cut in mining reward.
For me with 1170HP (accumulated from daily bonus and chests over almost 2 years) it means a cut by over 50% and whether or not the token will have any kind of value is an open question.

Either way the site saves money, because even if the token gains a value, it doesn't cost the site anything, they create those tokens out of thin air.
It would be a win-win if the tokens gain a value, but whether that's going to happen we will have to wait and see.

Yes, i know

I'm asking because Jamboom tries to give the impression that "for faucetusers that have no interest in the game" things remain mostly the same, which i'm sure is not the case

I'm in the same boat as you earning wise, our Hpower is in the same range and it took me almost the same amount of time to reach that (by bonus, not buying)
I have zero faith in any token he wants  to release

Also i do not consider a customary token as income in crypto, it's just a McGuffin

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I.e. the "miner run".
I've tried it throughout the last 2 years several dozen times, always with the exact same result, which is the game getting stuck.
No matter how many screens I clear, there's always another screen where sooner or later I bump into one of the viruses, where my miner turns red and the game freezes without any kind of indication what I should do now.

We have seen almost every "release" and "update" being implemented hastely, untested, bugfilled and delayed, and just about 50% of every update resulted in some negative effect as stop gap measure(e.g. "halting a feature" such as closing down exchange/market or not delivering on other bonus/features (referral landing page, bonus referrals etc) to limit the damage those updates (supposedly) caused.

This gives me very little faith in a about 99% overhaul of CMG or "game" of which only a small portion (a part of the still unfinished cardgame) is betatested by a handful of Patreons.

My ponit is, Jamboom can already not pay his users now and instead of finding and implementing more ways for him (and so the user) to earn, he just keeps pushing more and more features that do nothing except maybe look pretty from afar and cost a whole lot of time to participate in

It would be fair if he would was more transparant of what the new site is going to be, and implement at least a 1 month transition period in which the exchange or market is opened so people who'd like to stay and play can buy and buff up and people who'd want to leave can at least turn their savings into something worth withdrawing

7  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 07, 2019, 04:42:14 PM

System will be made in a way that players who don't want to battle won't need to.

So if we don't need to battle, and faucet earnings stay somewhat the same, what besides wasting some playtime is the point of the game?

So far i have seen mention of victory stuff, cards, cryptocoins, another ingame cmg crypto, chests etc etc etc, but what is there actually to earn (in crypto) by playing the game?

Also seeing you already struggle to payout faucetearnings, how are you planning to gain a source of income to enable earnings(of crypto) in that game?

Lastly, you do understand that after again closing the exchange/market for an extended period of time, there will be a huge dump of items, and so shifting of balances which result in a spike in withdraws?

Currently it is up to a quarter year to receive a withdraw, which IMHO is insane.
A quarter year is quite a stretch in having faith a faucet/crypto related site will last that long again
8  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 07, 2019, 04:35:01 PM
So just wanted to ask people's opinion.

I paid $2 per month for Patron but want to know if it's worth it?
Paid $4 so far till end of October.

After 5 weeks I have almost 500 Hpower and only made 463 000 Litoshi
Just doesn't seem worth the money or am I missing something?
The market closed so not really any other ways to make money (not that I was able to sell anything anyway and just lost crystals).
Only other way is referrals but you would have to have a ton of them (and active) to see any decent income.

Cards can't be used for anything so don't see the point of collecting them (sure the game is coming but chests are always packed full of useless bronze cards i can't do anything with so it's just frustrating).
If there was a way to earn Mining boosts that would be great to mine while we sleep.

Don't understand how to +EARN MORE QUESTS.

I came to this site to do something fun and make a small profit but it doesn't seem that hopeful.


You are missing nothing

As Patreon, you basically claim that you like the "CMG" game and support further game development, NOT that you're into it to make a profit

Referrals as is, is a bit of a skewed promise
Once a referral hits "premium" status (which eventually always happens) you go down from earning 8% on that referral, to a measly 0.5%

So effetively when 1 non-premium referral earns 200 satoshi, you will get 16 satoshi
But when that referral turns premium when that referral earns 200 satoshi, you will get 1 satoshi

Turning premium does not greatly increase a user's income too, so eventually referral income will go down significally.

9  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 05, 2019, 02:26:26 PM
Update is scheduled for 29th, October 2019!

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Send your drones to spy other players! Attack other players to get Victory points and more!

Am I the only one here who doesn't like this at all?
I dislike this so much, I'm seriously considering to leave CMG at the day of the update.

Help me out guys, post your opinion about this, I can't imagine there would be many users who like this.


I'm with you, waiting until 28 okt on which i will request withdraw of all my funds

I came here to use a faucet, not play a mediocre browsergame which i didn't choose for myself and which probably will get released filled with bugs anyway

Also if the onsite ads will not be greatly reduced, i wonder how playable it is going to be after all

That being said, it's not my site and Jamboom doesn't owe me anything (besides my accumulated funds)

If he wants to pull the plug on CMG as is, and focus on a whole new direction, he can do so as he wishes

Too bad the market is M.I.A. (again) or i would have dumped all my coins,cards and crap also but as far as i understand now i have accumulated all that stuff for nothing over the past almost a year
10  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 02, 2019, 12:45:48 AM
Hello, I think we should not dramatize.
I also have a payment concern that has been dragging for about 1 month.
I made a mistake buying hpower too. A small amount of 800 doge.
I am also waiting but I think jamboom work hard on the next version of the game.
jamboom could consult you my last ticket thank you.

Most of the "drama" has been caused by Jamboom's action himself, but let's hope he finally learrned something from past mistakes and  improves his methods

That being said, i again won't claim he is a scammer or a fraud, in the past i also have been paid eventually even though it takes longer and longer

Like i suggested a few posts above, the old support ticket system did not work and had to be changed
Viewing CMG it seems that it has now been done and this system is overhauled to Purchase support (do not mistake this for "you have to pay for- or buy support", support is free but only givin on issues that involve some kind of payment from the user)

So i think it's fair to assume that all old pending tickets are now void and will not be handled
Jamboom implemented a new ticket system for support on any paid services only

This should effectively mean that new tickets about paid services will have more serious focus
On CMG it is stated that support can take (again) a few weeks (2-3 weeks IIRC but do not quote me on that)

IMHO this is a positive change because any paying user (patreon or not) should have absolute priority with support about purchase issues including priority over any development

I would advise you to make a new ticket (on CMG click the +more-link in the top menu and select Purchase support) if your previous ticket was created before the change to purchase support
11  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: October 01, 2019, 12:35:27 AM

Hi again

Jamboom has enabled back my account today with all my coins, crystals and Hpower. Also, he completed my huge last payment which was 500.000 satoshi. CMG is still one of my favourite faucet game. If you can dialogue correctly with Jamboom, you can solve your problems easily. You should be only patient and kind as well as real Smiley

Here is a screenshot of my new account:

Thank you very much Jam. Also, thanks again you all; Thomasio, Clearmaker and Pyrros.

Best.

This is good news!

Glad you got what you deserved in the end Smiley
12  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: September 30, 2019, 05:00:10 AM
...
... I've asked you to send me a private message on this forum with all the info and you just don't, and keep complaining?...
For the other things, I will soon make an announcement.
Best regards,
Jamboom

After 6 months no activity on site support, do you think it's weird or unreasonable people  start complaining.

If you are not planning to provide the service, you should take it down entirely, and not leaving it as a false sense of security to users who think eventually will receive support.

There can be said and done a lot about "free" services and your, and users right to support and complain, it is when you start receiving actual money for any "paid" service (e.g. buying Hpower) you step into a whole new territory.

Your focus,  if you want to be an honest and decent webmaster and provider of paid services, should be on  the accurate processing and supporting on users that paid for said services.

Instead you focus on Patreon users and while claiming "even non-patreons will be served at a point".
History and experience showed us that this is in fact not the case.

Also 6 months ago there was none of this "Patreons come first" nonsense and so it is totally unfair, that when decided months later that Patreons will come first, you again put every non-Patreon in the back of the queue.

After 6 months i would have given up too, and used every channel i could to display my dismay about how things are handled.

The solution here should be simple:

-Remove the ticket-support link page NOW, and not at some predicted and always delayed point of yet another update none of us asked for.
 If you want people to ask for support here, adding one line of text and a link to this thread would be enough.

-Add a support link to pages with PAID-services only, e.g. the boost section and buy Hpower-page and whatnot
 Your focus 100% should be on working on tickets submitted there FIRST, no matter what.
 If you cannot manage support on your paid-services, then you should reconsider maybe removing the service entirely.

Above 2 steps should take any webmaster not more than 15 minutes to accomplish, and you, the webmaster, have a supportline to the most pressing issues.


I would thhink that 100% of your userbase is more interested in you fixing your backlog of pressing (people losing money) issues, fixing your backlog of constantly delayed withdraws, instead of putting everything aside to focus on your V2 update that nobody asked for or even expects much from(as what was the case with literally EVERY update that came before).

I have looked, out of curiosity, at your Patreon page and noticed even there promises made to backers that in my opinion would be very difficult, if not impossible to deliver.
Even if you could deliver on most of those promises, it would mean that the time you spend on that would have to mean ignoring everything else, leaving your regular users in the dust.
This is already a while ago though and i would not be surprised, and actually hope, you scaled down your promises to more realistic and achievable goals.
 
Fix your foundation, brake down the cracked walls, then rebuild solidly.
Or break it down entirely and move one.

Do not make promises you can't or won't keep, and people won't complain about it!
13  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: September 30, 2019, 03:50:32 AM
I got scammed by jamboom.

I just give up the game because it does not want to refund a payment error I made for the purchase of hpower.
I play for a long time and reinject my profits from the game to have more hpower and more.
6 months that I wrote to the support and that I prove my payment.

he just disgusted me in his way to despise his players.

I see that he continues to invent pretexts to banish big players  Undecided Undecided

I do not think you actively got scammed

However i do think you became a victim of Jamboom's incompetence and mismanagement.
Even 6-7 months ago i was clear to anyone who took the effort to count that buying Hpower was a bad idea and the whole system of buying Hpower was unsustainable from the start.
It at least was clear to me when i started more than a year ago.

Buying Hpower effectively was a multiplier of  non-existing funds and no faucet (or faucetgame) ever could return more than the income the site has.

Unless you'd made "playing" CMG a full time dayjob, it was highly unlikely that you would ever brake even, no less make some profits.
Jamboom did make the HUGE mistake for calling buying HPower for life without any logical limits, but this was just a testament of his blatant ignorance and so he had to change it or become bankrupt.

I am not trying to downtalk you, but the fact that your english seems somewhat broken, plus the fact that Jamboom's english is very lacking too made the issue of trying to solve this even harder.

Jamboom is certainly at fault by "seemingly" focusing on developing unwanted features, releasing broken features and panick-induced "damage control" caused by his own mistakes instead on focusing on support tickets.

This all proves again Jamboom's inability to be a webmaster of such a site.

I am sorry for your loss though!
14  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: September 29, 2019, 11:03:21 AM
hi, can you make these adjustments to cmg hacker game ? :
each character we destroy we earn from it, so for each barrier, and each cannon, level the game, we destroy level 1, then we go to 2, ..., that we'll make outside the 10 parties quest, a contest (daily, weekly, monthly) who have better scores;
more control on already earnings : not only 10 prizes sat coins (a mix of btc-ltc-eth-bch-dash),
but also 10 cryptocoins-cards-crystals (the possibility of 40 prizes on each level)
earnings to add : doge sats (uncounted prizes outside 10 because hes very easy to be mined, and extremely cheap), first aid kit to the hacker character (possibility of 3 at each lvl), mining boosts (at least the  possibility of 2 on each level)

There is a reason rewards/bonuses/extras are in sat (and additionally why there is always something to disable exchange/market)
Any other crypto and users will reach withdraw too quickly (and probably will be marked bot)

CMG is already hemorrhaging money left and right because of Jamboon's mismanagement

Adding more earnings, or easier bonuses will not help the site in general, and only results in more and more disgruntled users and negative feedback

Jamboon should re-evaluate his whole system to see what are his actual potential earnings before he promises anything to his users

After that he should strongly nerf all earning abilities on his site so he can present an honest estimate of what users can expect for their efforts

Jamboom's current "business-model" (if you can call it that) is clearly unsustainable
Anyone with common sense and a calculator can verify this for him/herself

Jamboon should focus on disabling everything that has no base on income math
Then he should work through the enormous backlog of support tickets

Also he should focus on the enormous list of pending withdraws

After re-evaluating his site and business model, then, and only then should he think (really hard, and also TEST-) about adding features to his site
15  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: September 29, 2019, 09:34:21 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm here to present you this new faucet that I've just released in Bêta, hoping you will like the idea.

CRYPTO MINING GAME is a new kind of Bitcoin, Litecoin and Doge Faucet where you can mine for game and earn for real!

https://cryptomininggame.com

The main features are :

  • MINING: You can now mine satoshi, doge and litoshi with your HPower! Mining rate are continuously changing depending on many factors, so check its before to mine. Don't forget to increase it by doing missions!
  • MISSIONS: You can do missions using your energy to earn satoshi, doge and litoshi and increase your HPower!
  • EXCHANGE: You can exchange satoshi, doge and litoshi.
  • BOOST: Start from level 8, you can use satoshi to boost your HPower and energy!
  • WITHDRAW: Withdraw request can be made
  • REFERRAL PROGRAM: Thanks to our referral program, earn 10% of your referral earnings of satoshi, doge and litoshi!

Beta tests are open! You can report bug you could found using our facebook : https://www.facebook.com/Crypto-Mining-Game-305699756582955/. Every efficient report will be rewarded by 10 satoshi credited in your account!

Don't hesitate to tell me your opinion on it, i'll really appreciate it and I hope this faucet will please a lot of users. I will also use this topic to send you updates and news.

Have fun playing CRYPTO MINING GAME!


Dear Jamboon,

I won't go as far as calling you a fraud, because i honestly think you are a victim of your own stupidity and ignorance

I have been member at your site for more than a year and started close to the beginning. The main reason i signed up on this forum is because at this point i am absolutely fed up with your incompetence and ignorance and it is time for me to call you out on it while on the other side i quit (while probably never seeing my payout because you will judge it as being too much and so you think you have a right not to keep up your end of the bargain).

Over the more than a year i have been member i have seen you do so many stupid and even despicable things.

First of all, you always place all blame on the users while never realising that most of the misery on your site is because of your own misdoings.

I cannot recount how many times you messed something up and then let the users take the fall for it.

You started as a faucet as quoted from your very own first post above.
Then you started all sorts of bs on users, because you claim your goal is creating a crypto card game
Nobody asked for this and looking back at your failed crowdfunder should be prove enough of this
Yet you keep pushing more and more nonsense, cards, chests unusable gameitems and what not and are insulted that we are not thankful for it.

You even start a patreon, congratulations! you have now the actual world's-first faucet that you make people pay for to participate
The fact you already stated that CMG would not survive without patreons is prove of your blatant mismanagement

I understand  fully that you cannot keep up the site how you started it and that things get nerfed.
Still things like promising users "free referrals" which is impossible, then give out automatically generated ones who have no activity and then after a while just blatantly steal pending "free referrals" is a false promise or even a lie

Also the whole "buy Hpower" scam you pulled a while ago.

You claim CMG is a "game" but you promised real life gains for people that invested real life money in you false advertisement.
However i saw that sh*tstorm coming miles ahead and so i'm glad i never fell for that scam.

You made major mistakes and (as you claimed) created huge security issues which lost the site a lot of money/crypto
Then you blame it on your users and try foul tactics to scare off people so they will never reach a payout.

Many times was the exchange offline which resulted in people forcing to play for months/years instead of weeks/months to reach a payout not exceeding a measly few cents.

Then you come up with this market and before you put that one online without any reasonable thought many users here warned you about the possible downsides, advise you blatantly disregarded anyway

You would  think everyone  would sell stuff at marginal losses, effectively earning those losses back to site balance
Although warned you never thought about that although a portion would funnel back to your site, a big portion would funnel to a few smart users resulting in you having to pay out balances that you do not actually possess.
On top of that all, the people who actually manage to earn something on your site are then called bots 

Your message to Alya prove what a scumbag you are

I have seen CMG go from "ok this seems funny, see how long it lasts" to "worse" to "bad to "OMFG do people not see what an idiot you are and how this site is a total ripoff"

I could go on and on about the things i experienced here, what others experienced and talked about here but for now i leave it like this.

My balance is probably above what you expect to be fair because i have been playing almost daily next to other faucets.
Also I have made many trades with Alya,  and guess what, i always made a profit above 10% or higher on those.
I guess this all makes me a bot too?

I'm quitting your game and highly advise others that came to earn to do so too
New users coming here for some vague card game? Go ahead, but if you came here believing the false promised gains and false advertising, turn around because you are in the wrong spot here

I will withdraw my balance, and hey who knows? maybe in a half year or so i will actually receive part of what i worked for
At least i'm not counting on it


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