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201  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: offline address - or a way to explicitly freeze an address on: February 28, 2013, 04:42:43 PM
You can generate an address offline.

As long as you keep the private key secret, nobody can steal the bitcoin.

A frozen address with time-activated release would be far more secure than an offline address.

The requirement to 'keep a private key secret' makes security depend on humans, and humans are fallible.  Best to outsource security to the protocol as much as possible.

I can see lots of real world scenarios where a time-locked address would be useful and an offline address isn't good enough:

(1) A large 'bank' or exchange that has billions of dollars worth of bitcoin in cold storage. Even if the bank assigns multiple signatories to spend those bitcoins, they could be kidnapped and forced to disclose the private key.
(2) A famous rich person who is publicly known to own a lot of bitcoins.  Again, the frozen wallet would discourage kidnappers.
(3) A problem gambler who wants to keep his retirement fund safe from himself.
(4) A single parent who has terminal cancer and greedy relatives, and who wants to leave his bitcoins to his 13-year old child.
(5) A bitcoin enthusiast who lives under a tyrannical regime and fears that the authorities might imprison and torture him in order to obtain his bitcoins.

As bitcoin gains in value and maturity, these kinds of examples are going to gain relevance.
202  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 28, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.

Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox hits all-time Bitcoin high on: February 28, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
Psychologically, this is an important milestone. It marks the end of the 2011 bubble and the beginning of a new chapter in the history of Bitcoin.
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RSA Conference 2013: Experts Say It's Time to Prepare for a 'Post-Crypto' World on: February 28, 2013, 09:36:19 AM
Just throwing this out there but could it be replaced by quantum networks and quantum communication?  This technology is in its infancy but could explode over the next 10-20 years if it develops.  Our tech is expanding faster than we can even keep up.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120411161604.htm

The only difference between quantum cryptography and classical cryptography is that quantum cryptography is (allegedly) provably unbreakable and classical cryptography just hard to break.

However, quantum cryptography doesn't solve the fundamental problems discussed in the OP: Knowing who to trust and hiding your private keys.
205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RSA Conference 2013: Experts Say It's Time to Prepare for a 'Post-Crypto' World on: February 28, 2013, 09:20:56 AM
I think that 'Post-Crypto' in the context of this talk doesn't mean abolishing crypto entirely, but rather to stop relying on crypto for certain tasks.

Private keys are only effective if they are stored in private places, but on the internet nothing is truly private because every system has holes and leaks.  Crypto alone can't be used to create the private places that it relies on, so we need something else, like Trusted Computing, to do that job.  I think that's the gist of it.

206  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A clean solution to ALL Bitcoin problems: SatoshiDice, Block size, future fees. on: February 27, 2013, 01:16:30 PM
One issue might be transactions that spam by means of their size. Perhaps a modification taking into account transaction size, too? Something like CoVar(txfeei/txsizei)?

I haven't had enough time yet to try thinking of other ways of gaming this.

Even better:

CoVar(txfee*priority)

Priority is already used by the protocol. It's defined as:

priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes


Giving a higher priority transaction a bigger weight makes sense intuitively, since we already use priority as a criterion for excluding certain transactions.
207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Voting] Bitcoin Slogan / Tagline on: February 27, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
Strength in Numbers
208  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: versteht ihr Ripple? on: February 26, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
OK, auf meiner Trust-Liste steht jetzt, dass molecular mir 0.01 BTC schuldet, und dass ich 0.01 BTC an yossarian schulde. Mein Kontostand ist also wieder Null.

Was geschieht jetzt, wenn yossarian meinen Schuldschein weiterverkauft?  Findet der irgendwann den Weg zu molecular zurück? Verschwinden dann die roten und grünen Barren auf meiner Liste oder muss ich die Schulden irgendwann manuell eintreiben/zurückbezahlen?
209  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: versteht ihr Ripple? on: February 25, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
Nachdem ich beim ripple giveaway 50000 ripples bekommen habe, ist es nun wohl an der Zeit, ein bisschen damit herumzuspielen.

Was dafür zu fehlen scheint, sind Kontakte. Wer mag, kann mir seine ripple-Daten (Name und Adresse) schicken, und dann verlinken wir uns. Soweit ich verstehe, kann man danach jedem ripple-Mitglied eine "Kreditlinie" einräumen. Das werde ich gerne auch tun und mich dabei an den bisherigen Erfahrungen und Bewertungen (Forum, OTC etc.) orientieren.

Wer mag, kann auch ein paar ripples von mir geschickt bekommen. Cheesy

Meine Ripple-Adresse lautet:
rG8VFQPaJB2gNjx29Et1wKUJettQP1eLmk

Bin auch am Herumspielen. Ich habe schon 0.01 blockchainBTC gegen 0.01 rippleBTC getauscht, via Benutzer: molecular.  Wenn du Lust hast, können wir den Gegentausch versuchen und sehen was passiert.  Bin gespannt ob es funktioniert selbst wenn du nicht mit molecular verbunden bist.
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Satoshi come back and tell us what he/her thinks about the block size? on: February 25, 2013, 02:21:24 PM
This debate on the maximum block size is getting more religious everyday. Now we beg the Creator for His Second Coming, or at least to speak to His prophet here on earth to tell us, humble mortals, how we should deal with this issue. And if He doesn't come soon, we will get into a debate on how we should interpret His Holy Scriptures.

Satoshi's opinion would help the community to decide, not because he is more competent than the current core developers, not because he is an authority figure but because it would reassure investor confidence.

People invested in bitcoin because they expected bitcoin to behave in a certain way in future.  In some cases, this expectation was based on the assumption that there is an implicit contract or consensus that the protocol is set in stone (a flawed assumption perhaps).   In other cases, this expectation was based on Satoshi's word.

Satoshi's opinion matters simply because many investors/stakeholders think it matters.

 
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTF happened to ripple? on: February 25, 2013, 12:16:19 PM
[...]
Now, I indeed remember the original ripple web-of-trust proposal being as gmaxwell described. The "new" system seems to be something else, and I echo people's concerns expressed in this thread and do not see how they have been resolved to any satisfaction. It may be unintentional on the part of the ripple developers, but something seems fishy or opaque about it (at least at this point in time), and it looks like a commercial rather than a community project.

To me, it looks like it is both a commercial and community project.  Is that a paradox? Not necessarily.

It looks like the pre-mined pre-issued XRP are a way for the developers/founders to monetize their work.  That's fair enough in my opinion, even though they overdid it by keeping such a large share.

I too would have preferred a "pure" community project, but the commercial element won't stop me from using Ripple.

I'm happy that someone is working hard at making this idea happen.  At least the XRP pre-issuing is giving the developers a motivation to keep working at it.  I prefer an imperfect Ripple that actually happens in the real world than a perfect, idealistic Ripple that languishes as an idea on a mailing list for 10 years. 

All this discussion about the XRP price is petty.  Speculators are gonna speculate.  There isn't much anyone can do about that in a free market, not even the Ripple founders.  Who cares if there is hoarding of XRP? Who cares if there are XRP bubbles?

It terms of Ripple functionality, none of that matters. Neither does it matter that a single entity holds 80% of XRP.  That does not make them a "central bank".  Even if OpenCoin held 99% of XRP, once Ripple transitions to a community project, this will not allow them to "buy" consensus or to block certain transactions.  Maybe they can manipulate or crash the XRP market. Who cares? That will only affect people who transact in XRP, not those who transact in other currencies.  And the ability to transact in arbitrary currencies is the main selling point of Ripple. The XRP are just an auxiliary tool.
 
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: February 24, 2013, 04:51:43 PM

I have a similarly long trust list. I think this is our urge to connect with people driving us to do this...

As said before by more knowledgable people than me, this might not be the best way to go about this. It was suggested we should all trust a handful (currently there only is bitstamp) gateways instead of building a WOT-like net of trust.

I just can't make up my mind (it is that way with many things ripple) wether such community-trust-clustering is a good idea or not.

On the one hand we're distributing risk. Bitinstant runs with our BTC => all gone. Molecular runs with our BTC => only a fraction gone.

On the other hand you'd probably have a hard time collecting your USD 0.1 from me in meatspace somehow. With bitstamp there could at least be joint effort to sue them or whatever.

Thoughts?


The problem I see with trusting too many people is that ripple money will seek the "path of least resistance".

If you grant trust to hundreds of people, all it takes is for one of those accounts to be hacked,  and some anonymous hacker ends up owing money to you instead of the person you trust.

These might be concerns for the future, but right now, we need to start somewhere. In order use/test the full functionality of Ripple I need a minimal web of trust. I don't mind losing a few bitcents just for the entertainment and educational value.

The reason I am only granting BTC is that they are easy to collect both in meatspace and outside.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: February 24, 2013, 03:24:58 PM
Ok. So far, I've granted trust to:

bbit
Severian
Peter Lambert
lebing
Belkaar
Melbustus
gweedo
phelix
kokojie
Mageant
herzmeister
ribuck
AlexNeto
molecular
grondilu


I granted tiny BTC amounts for testing purposes.  I'll keep it tiny until I figure out how exactly Ripple works.

I'd be very grateful if some of you reciprocated, so that I can play around with finding paths etc.

Me: rG8VFQPaJB2gNjx29Et1wKUJettQP1eLmk
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: February 24, 2013, 12:14:12 AM
molecular: will you send me 0.01 Ripple BTC if I send you 0.01 Block Chain BTC?

I am:

rG8VFQPaJB2gNjx29Et1wKUJettQP1eLmk

sure. 1K9Q8MsfchVbbkJUe66vW44zHfKRo7HYpS in case it arrived.


Received ripple BTC and sent blockchain BTC!
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: February 23, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
molecular: will you send me 0.01 Ripple BTC if I send you 0.01 Block Chain BTC?

I am:

rG8VFQPaJB2gNjx29Et1wKUJettQP1eLmk
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ripple: let's test it! on: February 23, 2013, 08:04:00 PM
Here's mine:

rG8VFQPaJB2gNjx29Et1wKUJettQP1eLmk


[edit]: Trusted molecular for 0.1 BTC
217  Economy / Economics / Re: I think the concept of saving has been lost with this generation. on: February 22, 2013, 11:47:54 PM
It's about taking responsibility for your actions and having a reliable place to save the money rewarded for your hard work.

Nobody ever got rich through hard work alone.  Making money is all about controlling capital. Money is poorly correlated with work.  Why does a quantitative analyst earn 10 times the salary of a physics professor, even when they have similar skills, and even when a physics professor's job is 10 times more intellectually demanding? It's because the quantitative analyst controls a huge amount of capital and the physics professor almost none.  

It has always been like this, but this generation is more aware of it. If you have a friend who makes easy money in finance, real estate, or whatever the next bubble is going to be, then you are going to think, why should I bother working my ass off as a teacher so that I can save $200 a month?  I want to have a good life too. Fuck the future.

The fact that savers are being punished by governments and debtors rewarded aggravates the situation even more.

  
218  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Warning: blockchain.info may register you IP, even if you don't use them! on: February 22, 2013, 11:14:22 PM
Tor is over complicated and correct me if I am wrong, Tor even do not have a non-GUI version?

Then use a VPN instead of Tor.  In the age of data retention, not using a VPN for all your internet activity is like handing over your privacy on a plate.  They are not that expensive anymore and they are easy to use. There is no excuse not to!


219  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Warning: blockchain.info may register you IP, even if you don't use them! on: February 22, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
Blockchain.info only shows which IP address relayed the transaction. This is not proof that the transaction originated from that IP address.

I suggest you hook up your full node to Tor. That way you will relay random transactions from the inside the Tor network, in addition to your own transactions. This will give you plausible deniability, because it will be impossible for an external observer to distinguish your transactions from random Tor users'.  

220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The block size limit controversy: a proper poll (30 days) on: February 22, 2013, 03:27:03 PM
Please stop asking for a hard fork, people doing this are destroing Bitcoin image and credibility. No one of you are entitled to make a poll in the name of the comunity, a few people on these forums don't represent the whole comunity.

¿Do you realice how many people have invested their live savings here? We are speaking at the moment of 318,709,754$, you are all playing with fire and people lives.

Do you expect, all of us selling our Bitcoins and switch to Bitcoin 2 at no loss? People will lose money, a lot o money if a panic sell occurs. Bitcoin will lose credibility for YEARS and investors will flee for ever.

If you want a hard fork, no one is stoping you taking the source code and doing an alt currency but don't name it Bitcoin.

What gives Bitcoin it's value are the rules. Protocol rules must be set in stone, unalterable for ever.

There are good alternatives around there if anyone whant instant transactions like VISA/Mastercard and Ripple.

Sorry to be rought, no offence, but these are my feelings.

Regards.

We should be very careful about the hard fork, but we shouldn't be paralyzed by fear either.

One could equally argue that NOT upgrading is playing with peoples' lives.  Nobody knows what's going to happen.

I am still undecided on this issue, but I doubt that a conservative hard fork will trigger panic selling. Eg. increasing the limit from 1 MiB to 10 MiB, as sugessted by Peter Wuille, will bring benefits of a higher transaction rate while still allowing normal users to run a full node.  Investors understand this.  

The switch doesn't need to be catastrophic. It can be announced 6 months in advance and it can be done in a way that it only happens once 99% of users have upgraded to the new client already.

As for people putting their life savings into bitcoin, well, they have been repeatedly warned against this by Gavin and other community members, and you can't really blame the developers if people invest money that they can't afford to lose.
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