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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 15, 2022, 01:30:29 PM
KYC does not verify a players identity, it simply verifies that the specified documentation has been submitted.

KYC and AML regulations and procedures do not stop money laundering. Those involved in that activity find
their way around regulations because they are highly incentivized to do so.

Pre-verified accounts are being bought and sold online by enterprising individuals who are addressing a
demand in an emerging market.

The inconvenience and the cost of KYC procedures is therefore borne by the majority of ordinary users who have no intention
of breaking any laws, they simply do not wish to risk having their personal identity documents stolen when a casino's database is inevitably hacked.

2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 14, 2022, 05:57:23 PM
We have to allow all regulation from casino gambling trough required with KYC or not, I don't think have serious problem when submitting KYC in casino account because we have upload document ID on exchange market although have been collapse like FTX. Securing or not our document used in casino gambling later actually depend with how reputation from one casino, I think we know about experience and trusted casino allowed for KYC.

Don't blame with any one still not agree with KYC in casino gambling, you can get many casino not requiring with KYC but you have accepted term term of service limited withdrawing and depositing your fund.
Reputation will always be the key. I don't mind sending my information to a well-known gambling platform. It's just the same as how I trust a reputable exchange with my details to enable maximizing the withdrawal limit benefits. Because that's just how it is, when they grow bigger as a company they tend to be a target by the government using the money laundering act.
What I don't really like about KYC's is the annual updates, I think they should stretch this up to 2-3 years before they re-check the players if they are changes with their profiles.


Consider the casino that;

- makes a choice to operate in a jurisdiction that does not require them to implement kyc procedures through regulation.

- chooses a jurisdiction that offers no legal protection to the player.

- selectively imposes a "kyc" like policy on the player, but only does so in instances in which it is to it's own financial advantage.

-publicly states through multiple marketing channels that it never witholds funds from players.

-witholds players funds as a means of coercion in order to obtain data of high commercial value which they sell to any interested parties who are prepared to pay the price.

- quotes "regulatory requirements" when asked to justify their behaviour, in full knowledge that they operate outside  of any legal framework.

- actively encourages players directly and indirectly to create multiple accounts, offering level up bonuses and other incentives on those alts, then banning those accounts before they have to payout those bonuses.

-uses the excuse of multi accounting, which they encouraged, to deny paying out to players.

Then ask yourself what kind of person would promote such a casino. I suggest you do your homework before you promote stake.com here in this forum.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 14, 2022, 05:37:33 AM
Fortunately I will say that a casino verification is something that will determine or attest that this person is credible and also part of the platform by 4 ft documentation to the platform but some people do not like to accept some verification of kyc in a platform because I find it very difficult to verify why it is something that protect you from having a miss found in your account
KYC is good most time to verify the identities of users and need to be less for requirements. Some casinos asking for KYC do have another purposes for this which is why many gamblers do not like to use a KYC casinos. I can see that some of the verification is to ensure the users identities so that there will be less complains from users a out account problem or difficulties.

I'm going to quote both of you for shitposting and spamming the thread with your never-ending 1xbit signature. Did 1xbit tell you to tell people that an Identify account would aid in the identification of people's funds? That is deceptive, and please refrain from disseminating false information. What happened to the emails and mobile numbers they all requested? I believe the same 1xbit has that option, as well as an ID number for each player/user.

KYC is a choice, and I will continue to refuse it. Only if you know how the mini war that has been going on with Binance and some users on Twitter space these few days, you would not want anyone to know your identity because they will come after you both online and offline, you must not trust anyone with your documents.

I'm happy to see an intelligent response. Reading through the forum in the last days, l'm left with the image of the parasite that poisons the host from which it feeds by shitting in its own food supply, and a host who's health is in rapid decline.
4  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: December 12, 2022, 09:40:50 PM
I read the original post and before reading any further I hit reply to say that in my opinion the original post was written by an AI.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 12, 2022, 09:28:52 PM
2: an imagination and an IQ slightly above the average intellect of  recent respondents to this thread
4: the ethical values of the average casino owner

I was laughing on this a bit too much Cheesy

I loved the overview, and you're completely right, it would be doable.

haha thanks, I'm trying to figure out who is running AI text generators on their accounts.


6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 12, 2022, 12:57:22 PM
Text to image generation software using deep machine learning,
can already generate KYC images and ID documentation that can pass KYC acceptance levels.

The issue for KYC is being able to determine if there is a real person at the other side of the process.

I didn't know about this, do you have any examples which I could take a look at?

I'm aware that AI content is entering it's renaissance period, I'm dodging those AI writers as crazy this year, but to generate KYC imagery is a new thing that I didn't know exists Cheesy  

There are no off the shelf services made for this specific purpose, at least none that I'm aware of, also I suspect that any currently available off the shelf text to AI service would have anti-counterfeit features in-built.

However given a combination of:
1: sufficient motivation
2: an imagination and an IQ slightly above the average intellect of  recent respondents to this thread
3: access to the correct training data such as the imagery stored in any kyc data base of any existing casino
4: the ethical values of the average casino owner

then it is my opinion that the quality of the image reproduction possible at current levels is sufficiently high enough to produce persuasive results. The quality of that imagery is improving at an exponential rate. I believe also that the Equivalent levels of high quality real-time video is not far off if not already within the realms of possibility.

I have already stated that KYC data is of high commercial value to a casino like stake.com. They are exerting high pressure on players to hand over that data at minimum cost before any legislation prevents them from doing this. Selling access to a KYC database for the purpose of building a text to image training model for deep fake ID image generation, is just one example of how players can be exploited beyond the traditional levels of exploitation you'd expect from the average online casino.

7  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people cheat in relationships?? on: December 12, 2022, 05:48:53 AM
If I am in a long term supportive loving relationship, and I then have sexual relations with another woman,
and if I have not hidden this act from my partner, where exactly is the cheating?
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 12, 2022, 05:33:33 AM
Text to image generation software using deep machine learning,
can already generate KYC images and ID documentation that can pass KYC acceptance levels.

The issue for KYC is being able to determine if there is a real person at the other side of the process.
This is not really a solution, to begin with this is most likely illegal, then you are also taking a massive risk as the casino could ask for more documentation and you will have no way to produce it as all of it was false, and finally if at some point this became popular among some gamblers then casinos will begin to ask for videos of the gamblers holding their documents or even ask to make a video call with you, defeating the whole purpose of doing this.

Where there is no law then there is no law broken and therefore no crime.
9  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people cheat in relationships?? on: December 11, 2022, 03:29:49 PM
The problem with this thread is that the question itself is preloaded with language that is judgemental. Hard to have open debate in that context.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 11, 2022, 03:23:33 PM
Text to image generation software using deep machine learning,
can already generate KYC images and ID documentation that can pass KYC acceptance levels.

The issue for KYC is being able to determine if there is a real person at the other side of the process.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com: "Sometimes Provably Fair" on: December 11, 2022, 01:38:10 PM
Stake are perfectly entitled to limit the timeframe in which players can verify past bets, however players should be informed.

Inform the players, in the first instance, that a limited timeframe exists, and secondly also inform them as to how long that window is open to the players.


The title is misleading OP is requesting to lengthen the Provably Fair process for players who are late in verifying their bets, why would they not verify within 24 hours or earlier if they want to find out the fairness of their bets I don't think many gamblers will be late if they really want to verify their bets, you should have set up a poll if they want this features added and let's see if this will get 100% support from Stake's players.

You are incorrect. Your logic is flawed. Try to work it out for yourself but if you get stuck let me know and I will assist
The problem is that there is a limited time frame in which a player can obtain the un-hashed server seed.
Not 100% sure that's true but a player should be able to verify the bet they made even after a period has passed.

There is no doubt about this, It is a matter of public record at this stage. Select a hashed server seed from 2020 and try to unhash it. I agree that players should always be able to check bets at any time they deem necessary.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 10, 2022, 11:19:56 AM
well anecdotally I would not disagree with that.
I would also say that new accounts appear to me to have a much higher RTP until deposit number two arrives.

It's all in the stake rule book.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 10, 2022, 09:33:41 AM
Well, about a Week ago I started a thread there to determine if people want these Bonus drops with a sucky RTP or if they just want a normal RTP on original games without the "feeding" mode turned on..... and it was deleted. (I started a Poll on Strawpoll to see what people want)

Now, it can be one of two things....

1. They did not want people to know that "feeding" mode is turned on during Bonus drops. (Which is perfectly legal, as long as you show the correct RTP being used)

or

2. They do not agree with me that "feeding" mode is turned on during Bonus Drops. (I base my observation on tests that has been done by myself and 50+ of my friends that help me test this... we discuss this in our own WhatsApp Stake Group)

I think it would have been better, if a Mod just replied to the thread and then denied that the RTP are altered during Bonus drop periods. (They could then just closed the thread)  Huh

In any way.... my experience with Stake has been very good, so things like this does not influence me to not play there. They do a lot other things correctly, so I forgive them...  Tongue

I don't think it is acceptable behaviour to delete someone's post without any justification. You put thought and time into writing that, and you are contributing in a meaningful way to the community there. It's disrespectful behaviour... however every action communicates something and that action communicates fear, so it's useful either way XD



I'm a long term supporter of stake, however I draw a very clear line between the current individuals who are temporary and make up the ever changing management team,  and Stake itself which is essentially the players.

So what is feeding mode? it's when the casino eats players coin?


14  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people cheat in relationships?? on: December 10, 2022, 09:22:46 AM
there are 3 seperate drivers at play here

1: Desire
2: Romantic love
3: attachment

You can desire one person
Be romanticly in love with another person
while also maintaining a supportive loving committed relationship with a third person.

They are 3 different things and most people are capable of having all 3 at the same time. The existence of one does not diminish the feelings you have in either of the other two.

If people understood this, there would be a lot less drama in the world.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks do not want bitcoin to become popular on: December 10, 2022, 09:01:51 AM
hmm... look its quiet simple, financial institutions are 100% in support of anything they can turn a profit on, including Bitcoin.

But large financial institutions have to buy in large volume, if they attempt to do this the market responds by driving the price up, so in order to do this efficiently they will do everything they can, to push the price as low as they can, which includes making statements in the media that bitcoin is f*cked.

When the retail traders who aren't diversified, panic and sell, the large financial institutions will buy as much as they can at a low price.
 
Once they have their volume they will do a U-turn and drive the price up.... rinse, repeat ad infinitum.

The best time for them to do this is to coordinate with a seasonal dip. Bitcoin has always dipped prior to chinese new year, and recovers afterwards. I don't see why this year will be any different.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 10, 2022, 08:46:08 AM
KYC should never be required on withdrawal of winnings, as that money has come from the casino.

If a casino is concerned about money laundering they should only be allowed to ask for KYC prior to deposit.

The KYC system is being abused by the casinos, who will do anything they can to delay a withdrawal, in the hope you will start playing again.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 10, 2022, 07:59:43 AM
no offence, but any proof that you actually are who you say you are? also, as Slow death has mentioned, any evidence to support your claim? I am not telling you that you are lying but with the number of scams I have seen here in the forum, it would be best for me and the members to be cautious and verify that you are who you say you are.

Thanks for your response. A lot of people would know me from bustadice originally, as for stake I think anyone who frequents the stake forum would know my writing style. I can't think why it would be necessary for me to prove I am the same individual as Ghostnipple at Stake.com and Ghostnipple at Bustadice.com, but if a good enough reason arose I'm sure I could find a way to prove I am the same individual.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 10, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
If you are serious, we are here to help you, but the issue requires real evidence, and in the absence of it, we have no power. You can also contact support and file a complaint with them. I think they will help you, And if the process doesn't work for you, you can take a screenshot and share it in the dedicated section.


Thanks for your response, actually I'm not looking for help or anyone to do anything nor am I looking to convince anyone of anything. I'm just reaching out to those who supported me in the stake forum who are unaware of my situation. I just want to inform them that I'm excluded from posting and can't reply to their questions there and also notifying them of the actions taken by moderators. I do this here as I know there is cross over between forums.

I'm also informing stake.com that they have an issue relating to IP ownership of posts made on site. Whether they pay any attention to me or not is not important.
Well, I totally understand or rather get the angle you are coming from, this is not like you are accusing the stake casino itself of doing you wrong, but the stake forum which according to you, and to what I understand, have been hijacked(if am allowed to use that word) by some unethical people with the moderators status, in other words, we can say that they are abusing their power as moderators by using it to silence some important contributors on the stake forum which you happen to be one.

Well, things like this are common anyway, so I am not surprised, all I can say or suggest now is, depending on how serious you take the issue, you might want to report this to those at the top at stake.com, you can contact Stunna here on bitcointalk and discuss the issue with him, I believe that if he understands and see reasons with you, he can help pass the issue to those who can take action on the moderators perpetrating such act.


Thanks for the advice. Im not so concerned on a personal level, but it is very alarming to see staff hack into a players account, modify that player's profile without permission, in order to hide a ban they actioned without due process.

The management team dont have time to engage at player level, so to get their attention sometimes you have to start a fire. If you don't do this your message will be lost in the background noise. I have started many fires in the stake forum each with its own message, if they are smart they see the point I'm making, some only see the fires.

19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 09, 2022, 05:37:57 PM
If you are serious, we are here to help you, but the issue requires real evidence, and in the absence of it, we have no power. You can also contact support and file a complaint with them. I think they will help you, And if the process doesn't work for you, you can take a screenshot and share it in the dedicated section.


Thanks for your response, actually I'm not looking for help or anyone to do anything nor am I looking to convince anyone of anything. I'm just reaching out to those who supported me in the stake forum who are unaware of my situation. I just want to inform them that I'm excluded from posting and can't reply to their questions there and also notifying them of the actions taken by moderators. I do this here as I know there is cross over between forums.

I'm also informing stake.com that they have an issue relating to IP ownership of posts made on site. Whether they pay any attention to me or not is not important.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake.com Ghostnipple: Identity Theft and IP Theft on: December 09, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
Before you come here to do such accusations you should gather some proof. Pointing the finger without any proof whatsoever is just playing dirty.

I think you mean "evidence".

I do have documented evidence.

However I see no reason to post it here, as I am not trying to convince anyone of anything.

Believe what you want it is of no consequence to me.
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