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@Bumbum @fred9999
We should see a new high next week which could be as soon Monday with a decline thereafter into the week of the 18th(TP) which should be a panic cycle to the downside. a lot of these moves will be determined by the reversal system, so as long as the Dow does not elect its next bullish reversal at 24765,
the market should decline into the the week of the 18th.
The 2nd quarter is a turning point so we either have to make new lows or close below the 1st quarterly close. The intraday low may occur in May, with June being the lowest monthly closing.
So should you short the market? Or should you just wait until something happens and then proclaim Martin was right again in hindsight? How does this verbiage even help traders make a definitive trade? Martin proclaims the ECM is accurate to the date, but yet his forecasts are wishy washy with no definitive action to take and are written in a way to make him look right in hindsight. If you think the above information is not helpful then you are not a trader. You can short the market against the next daily bullish reversal(24765) the array forecasts turning points and the reversals will determine the direction going into them. The array does not say whether the turning point will be a high or a low, that is why you have to use both the array and reversals together. Armstrong cannot foresee what reversal will be elected or not elected, what you are suggesting is that Armstrong must somehow know the direction before a actual buy/sell signal is given which is absurd. Do you even read what you write? Why would you short against the next daily bullish? You just said the market will decline if it's not elected. So if it's not elected then what, do you short? This is so silly, how can any trader make a decision from your statements. Armstrong's ECM shows directions to the date, why can't his forecast? why would you short against a daily bullish? because a daily bullish is a key resistance level. @Caymanjack, when do you short this market? you short when a bearish reversal is elected which is a sell signal, or you can short against a bullish reversal and exit if elected which of course has more risk. @bumbum 24765 is a daily bullish reversal as long as that is not elected we can move lower. you can short the market intraday and exit if elected at the close. the weekly's are at the 27000 level. June only has to close below 21917.16 to confirm the quarterly turning point here in the 2nd quarter if no new lows are made Ok, then what is the magic number for shorting this market? Short the market after it has already declined? You will find yourself sitting on the sidelines waiting for these magical numbers to be or not be elected only to see the goal posts constantly move. What a joke. |
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@Bumbum @fred9999
We should see a new high next week which could be as soon Monday with a decline thereafter into the week of the 18th(TP) which should be a panic cycle to the downside. a lot of these moves will be determined by the reversal system, so as long as the Dow does not elect its next bullish reversal at 24765, the market should decline into the the week of the 18th. The 2nd quarter is a turning point so we either have to make new lows or close below the 1st quarterly close. The intraday low may occur in May, with June being the lowest monthly closing.
So as long Dow close below 24765 on a weekly basis on May.11.2020, then the above applies? That's a steep decline if the intraday low occurs in May. The question should be, when do you short this market? Martin Armstrong/Socrates will not give that answer. How can anyone trade using his could, should, maybe statements. |
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@Bumbum @fred9999
We should see a new high next week which could be as soon Monday with a decline thereafter into the week of the 18th(TP) which should be a panic cycle to the downside. a lot of these moves will be determined by the reversal system, so as long as the Dow does not elect its next bullish reversal at 24765,
the market should decline into the the week of the 18th.
The 2nd quarter is a turning point so we either have to make new lows or close below the 1st quarterly close. The intraday low may occur in May, with June being the lowest monthly closing.
So should you short the market? Or should you just wait until something happens and then proclaim Martin was right again in hindsight? How does this verbiage even help traders make a definitive trade? Martin proclaims the ECM is accurate to the date, but yet his forecasts are wishy washy with no definitive action to take and are written in a way to make him look right in hindsight. If you think the above information is not helpful then you are not a trader. You can short the market against the next daily bullish reversal(24765) the array forecasts turning points and the reversals will determine the direction going into them. The array does not say whether the turning point will be a high or a low, that is why you have to use both the array and reversals together. Armstrong cannot foresee what reversal will be elected or not elected, what you are suggesting is that Armstrong must somehow know the direction before a actual buy/sell signal is given which is absurd. Do you even read what you write? Why would you short against the next daily bullish? You just said the market will decline if it's not elected. So if it's not elected then what, do you short? This is so silly, how can any trader make a decision from your statements. Armstrong's ECM shows directions to the date, why can't his forecast? |
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@Bumbum @fred9999
We should see a new high next week which could be as soon Monday with a decline thereafter into the week of the 18th(TP) which should be a panic cycle to the downside. a lot of these moves will be determined by the reversal system, so as long as the Dow does not elect its next bullish reversal at 24765,
the market should decline into the the week of the 18th.
The 2nd quarter is a turning point so we either have to make new lows or close below the 1st quarterly close. The intraday low may occur in May, with June being the lowest monthly closing.
So should you short the market? Or should you just wait until something happens and then proclaim Martin was right again in hindsight? How does this verbiage even help traders make a definitive trade? Martin proclaims the ECM is accurate to the date, but yet his forecasts are wishy washy with no definitive action to take and are written in a way to make him look right in hindsight. |
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No answers to the tough questions huh? Just insults? You are only insulting yourself bud by not answering. Showing your true colors.
Everyone can see you for what you really are. Ask a question that does not gel with your agenda, start the insults and diversions. lol.
Thanks for proving our point.
the answer to all those forecasts is that they are simply out of date. Socrates updates the array/reversals every day/week/month and you want to cling to a static blog post.  New reversals are generated if new highs/lows are made, which of course are not going to be included. That is the mistake that is being made so there is nothing to address and those blog posts prove nothing at all. That destroys all so called claims about failed forecasts posted here. The private blog of course would of included updates but that is conveniently never mentioned. They have already come to their conclusion why should they bother looking any deeper into it. Armstrong claims to be able to forecast long-term trends, years or decades before they happen. Now, Gumbi says that these forecasts are simply out of date. If I continue to change my forecasts all the way dynamically, I can get everything right. I will just stay behind current events by 1 day, and everyday I will come out and say that "see, I predicted the exact things yesterday. You all need to pay me and subscribe the private blogs." Let's see, Dow Jones next major test going to be 40000. On Jan 24, 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJ_BTOLxxoHmm. Isn't that too close to the sharpest stock market crash, and the great forecaster did NOT warn anything about major crash? "Great" call. again you continue to make the same mistake and cling to a static forecast which is what it looked like at specific point in time, but the market was unable to get passed key bullish reversals and time was simply up. Armstrong can predict turning points, such as the one in 2022(ECM date) with the Dow Jones yearly array lining up with the ECM. You can argue whether 2022 will be a high or a low at this time, we will ultimately need to see new highs above that made this year in 2020 and elect key monthly to yearly bullish reversals to confirm that move with confidence that we will see a temp high in 2022. but mark my words 2022 will be a turning point. Armstrong and his model can forecast turning points nothing more, nothing less it is your own misunderstanding but time is more important than price. If you like i can post the yearly array for the Dow Jones, the longer term has the most accuracy when it comes to the array. What a bunch of hogwash. So ECM dates are static and to the date, but forecasts based on the same logic are not? His magical pi dates have no meaning then. You can't one hand say Martin can predict turning points to the date and on the other hand say forecasts are not static. That means every report, etc. that he sells is utterly useless. It's all smoke and mirrors. |
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Your posts are filled with lies and nonsense. My posts are clearly written and understandable. People have independently verified this without solicitation. One last time because you are hard of hearing or just plain stupid: The $5000 gold call was made as to what gold could reach in the event of a currency crisis and loss of faith in the system. You saying that has to be tied to a specific date in time is ludicrous and idiotic. A child could understand this. This quote of mine: You are misinterpreting what he is saying. He is saying that the fact that we can forecast any (meaning even one) event to the day PROVES that markets are by no means RANDOM. addresses the misconception and misinterpretation by another user who tried to insinuate that Armstrong claims all forecasts can be made to the day. He does not and never has. What he means is exactly what I wrote -- that the fact that any (even one) can be made to the date means the markets are by no means random. He HAS made many large calls to the day and is famous for it. That is partially why the govt. went after him. If you can't comprehend what I have written above - there is no help for you. It's pretty clear what you wrote. You keep contradicting yourself or you're referring to the fact that his forecasts are totally random. You're simply an apologist for when Armstrong is wrong which is most of the time, but then will praise him when he finally gets one right. Socrates/ECM are infallible according to Armstrong. If so then they should be forecasting to the day every time. Otherwise they are infallible and Armstrong is lying to his subscribers misrepresenting the accuracy of his forecasts. And if he can't predict to the date every time, then his magical pi dates are totally useless, they have no meaning what so ever. |
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Here is another sample of flawed logic by Anonymous Coder. Her words: To stay within the scope of the current events, we stick with the coronavirus petition Bring in the expert Martin Armstrong to stop the destruction of the world economy (target 100,000 signatures).
Signing this does not cost a thing, so everybody with only half a brain who knows how to fill a form can do it. I can afford to even advertise it here which is the ultimate irony Smiley Apart from the self-documenting incompetence and recklessness of our Charlatan-in-chief as he becomes a Coronavirus Expert overnight.
At this time, the signature count is topping out below the 1% mark somewhere at 850. That is all the support Martin Armstrong has. This bitcoin Armstrong forum gets more viewers in four days. He basically shot himself in the foot by showing everyone that nobody believes him. This petition was not started by Armstrong - but by someone who thinks he can help fix the system. It is not advertised anywhere to speak of and the only way I learned of it was here. There is no way to know who other Armstrong readers or subscribers are - so no way to promote it amongst them. He is not tooting his own horn - others want his help. Most people have no idea who he is. So to say he does not have support is a lie. And there is a pretty good chance his letter to the President and congress swayed some thinking. He is trying to help and you bashers here do nothing but waste time and take up space on earth. Every charge made by the peanut gallery is biased and driven by bruised egos. Where is the proof he sent a letter to the president? And to think the president would take advice from a convicted felon? The news would tear him apart. |
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Just like there's plenty of "demand" for phone, internet and email scams, right?  Your posts don't make any sense. Don't even bother replying if you can't keep up. Read and understand what is written - you clearly don't.
With this Coronavirus scare - might be a good time for you bashers here to take a course in reading comprehension.
Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date.
You are misinterpreting what he is saying. He is saying that the fact that we can forecast any (meaning even one) event to the day PROVES that markets are by no means RANDOM.
It's pretty clear what you said. It seems you have a comprehension problem. Your posts are filled with lies and nonsense. |
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The other example is his book he sells at amazon in 200 lots and then claims it is sold out the fastest ever. He limits it to get the effect. He simply does not have more supporters than that roughly. The poster who said this, Anonymous Coder, simply can not admit that Armstrong's work is in demand and people want his books. The books on Amazon sold out TWICE, and then he listed 200 more on EBAY which sold out in about an hour. Simply based on these actual results - Armstrong has 3x as many supporters than AC says he doesn't have. I am guessing that he has over 500,000k happy Socrates subscribers. I am one of them. It is not difficult to understand the bashers motives - regardless of what they say their intent is. Their ego took a hit and they seek to vilify one of the most knowledgeable men in economics. 500k subscribers? Why aren't they signing Armstrong's petition? I guess they don't care about the country or is his subscriber number is really more likely 500 if that. |
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Don't even bother replying if you can't keep up. Read and understand what is written - you clearly don't.
With this Coronavirus scare - might be a good time for you bashers here to take a course in reading comprehension.
Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date.
You are misinterpreting what he is saying. He is saying that the fact that we can forecast any (meaning even one) event to the day PROVES that markets are by no means RANDOM.
It's pretty clear what you said. It seems you have a comprehension problem. |
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You are misinterpreting what he is saying. He is saying that the fact that we can forecast any (meaning even one) event to the day PROVES that markets are by no means RANDOM.
Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date.
What are you going to eat for dinner in 47 days?
LOL, do you even read your own comments? Your speaking out both sides of your mouth. |
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Is that what your comprehension is of the ECM statement I just posted? Seems pretty clear to me what the ECM is -- and isn't.
Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date.
Armstrong and his supporters claim the ECM can predict things to the date, otherwise what is the point of having specific dates? Then you say people are idiots for thinking so. |
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Wow, you just admitted Armstrong is an idiot. I guess you forgot about his ECM?
No - it's just that I know how to read and understand language: About
The Economic Confidence Model (ECM), sometimes referred to as the Pi Cycle, is a proprietary core model developed to help comprehend the global economy by tracking international capital concentration. While the ECM does not track an individual security or market (and should not be used to define a specific trade strategy), it helps reveal a timeframe for potential shifts in confidence that may lead to major economic events, up or down. So basically you're saying if something does happen then he right, but nothing happens then he's not wrong? |
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Last try:
To put it very simply - one more time - the $5000 gold call is what he thinks gold could go to in the event of a currency crisis. That is not difficult to understand and totally makes perfect sense. That is like any other forecaster making a call of what gold could get to when there is a currency crisis. It is not exclusive to Armstrong.
I went to that link you posted on Armstrongs post on gold - and he was very consistent in his calls. Goldman Sachs also proposed sub $1000 gold. For all we know we may see $700 gold soon... or less.
I'll make a prediction on Bitcoin: $2100 or less by 4/2021. Lower if the Coronavirus escalates.
So essentially what saying is Armstrong can't predict anything to the day, but Armstrong says he does? Then what is the point of the ECM? |
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Bullshit excuse. What kind of forecast is that - eventually. Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date. What are you going to eat for dinner in 47 days? The point is: that $5000 call is what he has said gold will go to when there is a currency crisis. That's not a bullshit call. The bullshit is you thinking it has to be pegged to a specific date and not an event. Do you bashers even comprehend written language ? Wow, you just admitted Armstrong is an idiot. I guess you forgot about his ECM? |
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I agree with Urex. There are extremes on both sides.
AC has made many points that probably can't be denied. Your points are extremely well
documented on this thread over and over and anyone reading through here can't miss
them. Give it a break and get a life. As you say the war is won, so move on already.
The people who weren't drawn in hook, line and sinker by what MA is selling and didn't
get burned might want to have a forum here where they can freely discuss what they
think might be of value without being harassed be people who are unable to come to terms
and accept their own failings.
Anonymous has made his point very clear why he is doing this. Simple, provide some factual material that people can't dispute and not spam useless nonsense. Over45 likes tell everyone how great Armstrong is without any evidence. If he's not going to provide anything, then why is here? |
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The mere fact that you're on here incessantly praising Armstrong and providing zero evidence proves that you're either the man himself, paid by Armstrong or a lonely troll with nothing else to do.
People want to see the facts which have been documented thoroughly on this site against Armstrong and no one can dispute them. I am not on here incessantly praising Armstrong. I sometimes post within a reply that his service has worked for me and saved me a ton of money. That is a fact -- and absent of me providing documented trade receipts - bashers like you and others will never accept it. I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else, nor would I want to. He is by far one of the smartest financial minds on the planet and his grasp of macro economics and geo-political history is in high demand. I would bet that you and most everyone else here checks his blog numerous times a week. There is not one thing that I have ever posted that is false. Not one. Can't say the same about the childish bashers here. They make false accusations, come up with wild theories and questionable assumptions to berate someone who doesn't deserve it. A totally unbiased poster recently nailed it: there are some here who's egos were hurt and they are acting like children. Time to get over yourself and get a life and get a job. You've have proven my point. |
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Anonymous Coder writes: The previous 3 messages by truth727 are spam paid for by Martin Armstrong. You have zero proof of this. You have been called out before on your lies and hide behind your anonymous internet ID. You have accused me of being Martin Armstrong himself. You have zero credibility. Zero. Take him to court. Take me to court. Loser pays. Ready when you are. The mere fact that you're on here incessantly praising Armstrong and providing zero evidence proves that you're either the man himself, paid by Armstrong or a lonely troll with nothing else to do. People want to see the facts which have been documented thoroughly on this site against Armstrong and no one can dispute them. Armstrong couldn't forecast his way out of paper bag because he would undecided on which way to go. |
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Fred - see what the adults have to put up with ? This whippersnapper actually believes I am Armstrong himself writing these posts. Ego is right.
Cayman - can't help you if you don't listen or understand what I'm posting. Good luck.
No, I'm just merely correcting you and you're misunderstanding of what Martin said in his private blog. But hey, I'm sure you're happy trading this vertical market too. Money well spent. |
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I don't think most of MA's haters are here to help save others but more likely on here because both their pocketbooks and their egos took a big hit Spot on. Thank you Fred. Cayman - 2032 is not the vertical market date. You misunderstood. 2032 is the end of the grand super cycle - all bets are off - kiss your loved ones and pray for a better life date. If you read Socrates you would have a good idea of when the vertical is likely to happen (following a series of events). As far as the collapse - Socrates has been updating trends all along. That is what it does. Sorry, but he did postpone it until then in his private blog posted after the close of 2019. Again, why not prepare subscribers for the coming crash? Everyone keeps saying he predicted it, yet no proof. But he does have that report on how to trade a vertical market that has happened, but instead is now crashing. |
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