I'm trying to imagine, after reading the infamous 60 btc loan thread and this one, the type of arguments one could expect from dank about loan repayments. Not just any loan, but the largest loan being asked for on this forum at the moment.
Expecting a payment on Friday, and he missed it? You have no soul and obviously don't understand the way the universe works. He even called his previous lender greedy for holding him to an agreement that was LESS than dank offered himself in the first place.
I can't imagine a worse person to deal with trying to get repaid from, especially after seeing how dank spoke to his previous creditor. He ended up making up hypothetical situations about losing an arm and his mother dying to explain why he was late, in THEORY. Compound that by 10000x (I didn't know how much charcoal costs! I ended up having to get permits! trash bags are expensive! my landlord doesn't take bitcoin and I haven't heard from the exchange I've been using for days!) to get the slightest hint at how bad this would be for the lender.
The hookah lounge is a temporary idea though, dank will move on. The loan isn't for the lounge it's an investment in him, as a person. As an anonymous, unknown, musically talentless, 18 year old child that cannot for the life of him understand why people don't see how great he is.
Whew!
That's what you got out of the 60 BTC loan thread? I had lost all my money, MtGox locked my account with $300, and nckrazze wouldn't give me a break off the 1.5% daily interest (he said he would at first, but I took too long, obviously, since I was waiting on MtGox). The dude could have not been greedy and adjusted the interest rate for what was supposed to be a 2-3 day loan. The best part, though, is that I paid him every bit back, even with his 1.5% daily interest. People like to leave that part out, it seems. By the way, I'm not anonymous, I've confirmed my license with two members. Nobody is talentless - you just have to make your talent, which I am in the process of doing. And it's been, what, a month? I believe I've progressed quite well for a month of practice. You are actually lying about the length that loan was supposed to be. Lying. Willfully lying. You are anonymous to the people in this thread that you are asking to invest in you. You understand that, but are being willfully dense about it. You are a talentless musical hack who hasn't been playing an instrument long enough to call yourself a 'beginner'. How is this thread still even open? Nobody is taking this seriously..... right?  |
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I'm trying to imagine, after reading the infamous 60 btc loan thread and this one, the type of arguments one could expect from dank about loan repayments. Not just any loan, but the largest loan being asked for on this forum at the moment.
Expecting a payment on Friday, and he missed it? You have no soul and obviously don't understand the way the universe works. He even called his previous lender greedy for holding him to an agreement that was LESS than dank offered himself in the first place.
I can't imagine a worse person to deal with trying to get repaid from, especially after seeing how dank spoke to his previous creditor. He ended up making up hypothetical situations about losing an arm and his mother dying to explain why he was late, in THEORY. Compound that by 10000x (I didn't know how much charcoal costs! I ended up having to get permits! trash bags are expensive! my landlord doesn't take bitcoin and I haven't heard from the exchange I've been using for days!) to get the slightest hint at how bad this would be for the lender.
The hookah lounge is a temporary idea though, dank will move on. The loan isn't for the lounge it's an investment in him, as a person. As an anonymous, unknown, musically talentless, 18 year old child that cannot for the life of him understand why people don't see how great he is.
Whew!
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Right? OTC is valueless for a ton of reasons. You can pay people to rank you, there is no attached identity management (even an anonymous identity), and it is in no way accessable. It also isn't kept clean, such as http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Coolio-&sign=ANY&type=RECV This entry has multiple +10 rankings that are obviously accidents 15160 TheBitcoinFox -9 Coolio- 2012-09-25 13:32:35 10 ripped off 600$ in moneypacks from a newby! 15168 insanebit -8 Coolio- 2012-09-25 13:39:42 10 ripped off moscowr 600$ moneypack Both entries, of course, known sock puppets in the system and yet still being tallied The person stolen from has an entry here: 15111 MoscowR 1 Coolio- 2012-09-25 22:55:29 1 thanks for mp->btc exchagne I assume you can only leave one entry for someone, so MoscowR couldn't change this from a suggestion to a -10? In short, it doesn't... suit my needs. Like I said, I'm more likely to point people to my ebay profile right now until something new comes along (or something old is re-appropriated). You can't pay people that matter to rank you. The WoT is a Web of Trust not a Sum of Trust. Ok. What is the system being used in all of this that indicates who matters? The only entity management in all this appears to be Freenode's NickServ, userprofileID / name on this forum, and a handful of strange startup stock markets. Is it a personal case-by-case judgement? If so, that's ok; but if there is another system being worked on I'd like to hear about it. To use. My point stands about the entry by MoscowR earlier, if that works the way it appears if I trusted MoscowR (and maybe filtered out all feedback from non-trusted reviewers) I would think that this user was vouched. Can he change that entry on his own or....? |
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Right? OTC is valueless for a ton of reasons. You can pay people to rank you, there is no attached identity management (even an anonymous identity), and it is in no way accessable. It also isn't kept clean, such as http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Coolio-&sign=ANY&type=RECV This entry has multiple +10 rankings that are obviously accidents 15160 TheBitcoinFox -9 Coolio- 2012-09-25 13:32:35 10 ripped off 600$ in moneypacks from a newby! 15168 insanebit -8 Coolio- 2012-09-25 13:39:42 10 ripped off moscowr 600$ moneypack Both entries, of course, known sock puppets in the system and yet still being tallied The person stolen from has an entry here: 15111 MoscowR 1 Coolio- 2012-09-25 22:55:29 1 thanks for mp->btc exchagne I assume you can only leave one entry for someone, so MoscowR couldn't change this from a suggestion to a -10? In short, it doesn't... suit my needs. Like I said, I'm more likely to point people to my ebay profile right now until something new comes along (or something old is re-appropriated). |
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Yes, the WoT is where it's at.
Yes, the pirate and the pedophile Mircea Popescu started there. Everybody can spend 10 BTC and buy some ratings. Right. It truly means nothing. I'm more likely to use my ebay account than a bitcoin-spawned service. At least, today. In that case what exactly are you doing here? Sellin' surplus and lookin' for next generation reputation and identity management experiments. You? |
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Yes, the WoT is where it's at.
Yes, the pirate and the pedophile Mircea Popescu started there. Everybody can spend 10 BTC and buy some ratings. Right. It truly means nothing. I'm more likely to use my ebay account than a bitcoin-spawned service. At least, today. |
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Hm, as a business owner, would it make you feel better if there was a service doing conversion to fiat at time of purchase? If that's something you've be more interested in... I'm sure someone might be able to point you in the direction of such a service... if not I might just have to design one for you. =P
In theory, sure, though at that point I might as well just stick to USD. My problem isn't with holding BTC it's making sure I decrease my risk to strange market manipulations in the middle of the night. If I had an automated BTC system I'd want it to value BTC at the weekly average, with a manual approval required to update every week. In theory that's what I'd like to use but only experience will teach me what I need. Other than not trusting any of the exchanges, I also value BTC (for now) differently for shipping costs and product. For product I'm valuing BTC at around 10USD but for shipping I'm cutting this in half. For 30 dollars worth of product that costs 20 dollars worth of shipping I'd charge 7BTC. I'm looking to collect BTC in the hopes that later I can find people who will take it for labor trades. Graphics design, web design, sales calling, voice acting, and other remote services are all likely BTC paid candidates. We also use Tradebank in order to gain labor and service trade with local businesses and we get more than a little trade from it. I'm trying to view it like that. Anyone else on here use Tradebank? |
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I just got 15 dual core Lenovo R61 laptops in. I'll have them refurbished and ready for sale by the end of the week. Is there any interest for one on here? If so, I'd let 3 of them go for BTC....
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Do you purchase and or trade surplus? I have some items that I'm looking to sell in a bulk package. I'm also within a drivable distance if I made a day out of it.
We do, but it has to be a really really good price or something a client is looking for. PM me what you have/are talking about and I'll see what we can do. |
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I'm looking at about 50USD for a flat rate international box from USPS. That is.... steep, but if you are willing to pay it.... That's for a medium box. It is only another 10 for a large. If you see more things you want, it might just be worthwhile to cram it full.... |
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I think if you could get a mtgox 'buy with bitcoin' button on the web site you'd sell lots of stuff.
I want to revisit this sometime in the future, but I'm not going to do this. For one, I'm terrified that someone will manipulate the value of BTC one night and I'll end up stuck with an order for 10k USD worth of printers on a skid to be shipped to Germany for like 10BTC or something, with the buyer claiming I'm a scammer for not wanting to go through with it. I also don't value BTC at 'the most recent price from MtGOX'. I don't care if BTC are going for 30 USD each right now, if the average price over the last few weeks has been 10 then around 10 is what I'm going to value it at. I cannot imagine opening myself up to potential ruin by allowing an automated BTC system into my business right now. The community has proven to be very scammer-laden and hacker-laden, I don't even find any reason to trust MtGox to not manipulate the market itself for their own whims. The thought of a glitch in MtGox systems allowing people to put PO's in for almost no BTC... and then have the printers in my shipping department kick out the PO's automatically (which our system does when someone pays for an item) means that by the time I catch it dozens of labor hours may have already been wasted. So, for now, I am not considering doing anything other than what we are doing here. I'm receptive, but critical. |
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Can you post some pics and quotes?
Thanks.
Please please PLEASE search for 'motor' on the inventory page and link what you are interested in. Pics have already been taken, and a rule of thumb price attached. |
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Any price on the NEMA 23 motors and a guideline price for shipping to Europe?
How does 1btc each sound? As for shipping, tell me how many you want and I'll get it weighed and I'll come back at you with a shipping cost. Note: they are heavy. http://www.kpsurplus.com/buy/astrosyn_automation_stepper_motor_drive_23km_k370_07v/65266 <--- these motors Funny, every single one of these I've sold has gone to Europe. Edit: Just updated the first post with some pictures of our operation! |
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I'm sorry, I'll have to pass - really just need standard rackmountable compact panel. Thanks for looking tho.
Alrighty! I'll send you a PM when I see a more compact one. We constantly get these kind of panels in, but we also sell them very fast. I am positive I'll find something within the week. I need NEMA 17 stepper motors if you have them.
I have NEMA 23 stepper motors that have been driven by a RAMPS board before, by the dozen. They are overkill for a 3d printer, perfect for a CNC mill. I'll check around for 17's but they are rarer. The 23's all come from thermal printers during demanufacture. Any interest in linear rails? Got any window motors? Jaguar controllers? Spike relays?
Motors of many sorts, including the steppers mentioned ^. No and no on the controller and the relays. Got any window motors? Jaguar controllers? Spike relays?
Building a robot? haha. Hey now! Robots are hobby tech now. |
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... Not to say that there aren't strange things in the way stuff is priced. Use the prices on the page as a rule of thumb, I have the authority to sell things at whatever prices I see fit so if something isn't appropriate I'll adjust it. eg: I'd sell you one of those, working, for 7btc.  Nice to hear that, I will definitely buy stuff if that is the case then. Can we PM here you or make the order on site? PM here, post in this thread. The site won't allow you to pay btc, and I don't plan on automating any kind of BTC processing in the future. I like being able to make a judgment call on each item for now until I feel more comfortable with the ins and outs of using BTC. There are tons of things that aren't on the site as well, and I think it might even help with 'trust issues' if I make a quick tour through our facility. What do you think? |
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Great service and welcome. I think I could use some stuff you have there, but the fiat prices are a bit higher than I was expecting.
Prices are high on some things, sure. I am willing to negotiate on almost any of it, and am VERY willing to negotiate for larger orders. List what you like and see if I can come up with a price you can handle. edit: Your example is perfect, the price working and nonworking is the same. Many surplus buyers purchase items specifically to repair something they already have, usually taking parts from the surplus replacement. There are multiple parts inside both of those units worth 60-120ish USD each, it being functional is somewhat besides the point. Those cash registers are the exact same make and model that McDonalds uses in some stores. Not to say that there aren't strange things in the way stuff is priced. Use the prices on the page as a rule of thumb, I have the authority to sell things at whatever prices I see fit so if something isn't appropriate I'll adjust it. eg: I'd sell you one of those, working, for 7btc. |
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I could use a pair of 48 port cat5 patch panel or a pair of 24s.
Couldn't really navigate that site in Opera, not going to use IE.
If you want to find and quote me on the above... that'd be great.
Ortronics 24 port telco patch panel OR-808044320 2RU I can send you two of these: http://www.kpsurplus.com/buy/ortronics_24_port_patch_panel_or_808044482/66923 for 6 BTC, including shipping inside the continental us. There should be empty room in the box to cram some small things if you need them. Cat5e cables, power cables, etc if you can think of anything you need. |
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