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4641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the heck is a private key...exactly? Someone help please. on: November 21, 2020, 09:09:35 AM
Still not sure what my private key is exactly.  I also saw in some places where they said Ledger does not give you the private key.  So more confusion. 

This is an example of your public key - 1D7sLmEpzUKkZT2YFsDNZtXZEQax3LiWt1
This is an example of your private key - L5HWPGe9hwLrkWGAppL1HxoaVBSHMQMfadT9uX1S3Nx3F2DHZwXc
(of course, that address has 0 balance and never used, this address created for example purposes)

If you want to sign a transaction, you need a private key.

your private key is in the ledger wallet, it doesn't show you in PC. the private key is a child key generate from master private key where generated from your 24 seed. so, what the important is you have to keep your 24 seed in a safe world, just it.
4642  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [BOUNTY][INJ] Injective Protocol - Protokol Perdagangan Terdesentralisasi 🚀 on: November 20, 2020, 12:07:30 AM
nah,, aku setuju dengan agan erep kalau karena foto berarti hanya hype dong agan khiholangkang juga bilang kalau gak ada berita apapun dibalik itu semua jadi menurut ane mah itu cuma foto biasa seperti kita berfoto dengan pak jokowi
Tentu hype lah,jarang kita lihat CEO proyek Crypto berpose dengan presiden Amerika terlebih Joe Biden baru saja memenangi pilkada pilpres di Amerika,Saya kira investor akan dengan berita ini menjadi yakin pada proyek injective protokol.
Beredarnya Foto CEO INJ dengan presiden terpilih Amereka(Joe Biden) sangan berpengaruh besar bagi INJ, setelah biden memenangi pertarungan di pilpres kemaren, harga BTC terus meroket. Munurut ane, CEO INJ sangat pintar mengambil kesempatan, besar kemungkinan dengan beredarnya foto tersebut, investor akan semakin menarik bergabung dengan INJ.
Siapa pun bisa berfoto dengan orang terkenal (atau belum terkenal), contohnya begini:, ketika jalan ke mall tiba-tiba ada presiden jokowi lalu ada kesempatan berfoto lalu pamer ke sosial media kalau ane kenal banget sama presiden dengan menunjukan poto tersebut. Kalau temen ane ngelihat pasti yakin banget kalau ane kenal dengan presiden. Padahal sebenarnya tidak kenal, baik ane atau pun preseiden, intinya cuma numpang poto. Ini yang harus digaris bawahi.
4643  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] LYRA Block Lattice (Bahasa Indonesia) on: November 19, 2020, 12:15:16 PM
Project Lyra berintegrasi sama shopify ya,  saya pernah bertanya ke ownernya katanya tidak bisa berintegrasi sama platform sekelas Amazon
Beda jenis juga gan, Shopify itu sejenis builder toko online, cara kerjanya daftar lalu bikin toko. jadi, jelas berbeda dengan namanya Amazon di mana pengguna hanya "menitipkan" dagangan tanpa perlu beritegrasi.
4644  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $60/Week on: November 19, 2020, 01:29:34 AM
How many of the projects you managed i applied for, you didn't even take me to one.  Cry
Maybe because you didn't earn enough merits during the last 120 days.
Bounty posting only and never posting on gambling board. he could be a spammer if changing the habits.
4645  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Money laundering via BTC on: November 18, 2020, 10:27:33 PM
It is difficult to do that with bitcoin, many exchanges ask you to KYC if you want to make a large amount of withdrawal, but actually bitcoin is only a tool used to launder money, can't gold and others be used as a money launderer, this question every so often and it's boring
binance is the best, they required 2 BTC withdrawing without KYC. but the problem is how to deposit fiat.
4646  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Diskusi Harga Bitcoin Diamoind(BCD) on: November 17, 2020, 11:07:50 PM
Apakah BCD ini bagus untuk investasi jangka panjang ya gan? Saya lihat harganya turun jauh banget dari harga tertingginya Rp 1.973.489 sekarang harganya Rp 7.023,29 (coingecko)
Bang, pakai logika deh, kalau melihat harga disebutkan, itu tidak normal. Apa sesuatu yang tidak normal gitu mau nyimpen duit di sana?. yang pasti-pasti aja deh kalau mau jangka panjang,

semua koin hasil fork BCD memiliki ATH yang tinggi,
Ane kira maksudnya bukan BCD tapi BTC, karena setau ane BCD tidak Hardfork coin yang disebutkan di atas. kalau newbie baca pasti akan bingung.

4647  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] XSL Labs - Data Anda Adalah Milik Anda on: November 17, 2020, 12:05:21 PM
Senior -senior yang berpengalaman jadi bounty hunter terhadap proyek seperti ini pasti udah paham dan hapal betul bagaimana kedepannya. Ane kalau mau millih pasti ngikut kata senior yang pernah atau terjebak dalam proyek seperti ini. Itulah mengapa thread seperti ini - [ANN][ICO]HoweyCoins: the only BitcoinTalk-endorsed ICO - GUARANTEED PROFIT ada di pinned board Altcoin, supaya kita terhindar, apa lagi prosesnya panjang sampai tahun depan, tidak ada jaminan akan profit.
4648  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Master Private Key for Beginner on: November 17, 2020, 11:33:25 AM
but master private key has the advantage to be able to be compatible with all bitcoin wallets.
the beginner must be careful, every extended MPK had a specific derivation path, they must know they address using legacy, nested or native segwit.
4649  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to implement bitcoin as a payment method on: November 16, 2020, 12:53:47 PM
I think if you implement PayPal as payment method or as one of your payment method. Playpal accepts btc now. So it will be easy for users to choose within PayPal payment methods
It's not true, you cannot be transfering Bitcoin to other accounts such as your wallet, exchange and etc. you only can hold your crypto into your paypal account

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/cryptocurrencies-tnc

Quote
You currently are NOT able to send Crypto Assets to family or friends, use Crypto Assets to pay for goods or services, or withdraw Crypto Assets from your Cryptocurrencies Hub to an external cryptocurrency wallet. If you want to withdraw the value from your Cryptocurrencies Hub you will need to sell your Crypto Assets and withdraw the cash proceeds from their sale.

so you doesn't own your bitcoin if using paypal.

you have a bad idea.
4650  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Info] List Bounty Campaign Yang Exchangeable [Ter-update] on: November 16, 2020, 12:04:33 PM
New Bounty - [BOUNTY]CTYR CYCLOPS.FINANCE 15 CTYR($2000) pool reward. Available on UNISWAP!

- twitter campaign - maksimum 30 stake per minggu
- artikle campaign - 500 stake per artikel
- youtube campign - 500 stake per video
4651  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to implement bitcoin as a payment method on: November 15, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
Hello everyone,

I have an online store and would like to offer Bitcoin as a payment method in my store.

Now my question: Does anyone have any experience with this and can they recommend some kind of guideline or approach?

Which payment service providers/processors in Germany or Austria can you recommend to me? Or is there a possibility to avoid them?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards!

maybe you have more technical knowledge, you can try use electrum - How to accept Bitcoin on a website using Electrum
4652  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Seed phrase, password, address, public key, private key, master public key..Wth! on: November 15, 2020, 03:40:59 AM
From my tests, it seems that Electrum generates 18 receiving addresses and 10 change addresses when you create the wallet. And each time a receiving address is used, an additional receiving address is created. Still not sure how frequently changes addresses are created though.

If you make a test using https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ to generated more address using electrum MPK.

Electrum Seed
Code:
east alpha glare jealous federal rail bless staff banner unfold crystal excite

Master Private Key
Code:
zprvAZrVEE8P7AUEdxJZFPgVz9cuDbYackc5Gnk6F8ekEMFdCDa7icALWk9edVxT3hm2gqF8sqEEWR8vzaxnWAGqi6wUbh8Hpi5Ng7R8xXRpme8

You will surprise they will create more address (Million) if you clicking more rows, but you need more time to generate a million address, I did testing 2000 need 5 minutes generated.

4653  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Seed phrase, password, address, public key, private key, master public key..Wth! on: November 15, 2020, 12:10:27 AM
1) When do I need to use it?

2) What happens if I lose it?
1. signing transaction and message.
2. you can't access your money.
Private key have one public key (address), mnemonic phrase generate a million Private key and one master private key.
Mnemonic seed  > master private key > private key.
please come to my thread for more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288888.0
4654  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Info] List Bounty Campaign Yang Exchangeable [Ter-update] on: November 14, 2020, 12:29:47 PM
Tetap di topik kawan-kawan, jangan ngobrol ngalor ngidul ke beras dan segala macam hal yang tidak ada hubungan dengan tema. diingatkan sekali lagi, ane tidak segan untuk mereport post yang melantur, Boleh dan silahkan ngepost tapi yang berhubungan dengan list bounty. kalau soal pendapatan dan segala macam silahkan ke ann thread mereka.

terima kasih.  Smiley
4655  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Master Private Key for Beginner on: November 14, 2020, 12:13:29 PM
Chapter 5. Wallets (in Mastering bitcoin)
With same seed, you can create a Masterkey, and Child keys then Grandchild keys



Yes, but only created once master key right?. this means we can save that master key only. In my previous post about Derivation Path child key was in index, where 1 is the second address, etc.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki#Private_parent_key_rarr_public_child_key
4656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to generate thousands dogecoin addresses? on: November 13, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
you can use https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

generated seed then select doge coin



On show row below write how much address and private key you want to generate



Don't forget to do offline.
4657  Other / Beginners & Help / Master Private Key for Beginner on: November 13, 2020, 01:42:02 AM
Master Private Key (MPK) comes from Seed generated from Hierarchical Deterministic (HD) Wallet.

from MPK we can generate Million public (BTC address) and private key. when still curious about detail, you have read the source: A, B, C.



MPK is Important, you can restore your wallet using it. I don't exactly understand how to get MPK from various BIP39 Wallet. But you can get MPK by running https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39/releases offline. Just Import 12 or 24 mnemonic seed into BIP39 Mnemonic box, scrolling down Html and you will find BIP32 Root Key and Account Extended Private Key.

Example:

BIP39 24 Mnemonic Seed
Code:
board produce disorder rib behave harbor border pudding radar hip episode loud energy attack friend idle badge click arctic bridge real rotate link choose

BIP32 Root Key
Code:
xprv9s21ZrQH143K413FYiGja2j6ErRSWgZdVfopfqgaNSEJuDkgauSVvw2oCRAXEV6hsi4f9TTxZ5TNNky4zb5vCewdACPnw3XNLKcTzJpMK3U

Account Extended Private Key
Code:
xprv9ymVnwPJTZpaUsFLPnSSpqwCqWZgW3ddFhbnwEbQBK2xkjsstMx2dpF5jhemPXaHhSj7mx3bzAVPRb66aewsDQt8qM7nPunfiLRSYS3mwXX

Public key (BTC address)
Code:
1W8QEako617xt2R1F6jQqx1k6qF25uQAB
14LrwCWqR4nYzLzDaDjgURtXfcnAJGyiTe
17a4wdA4QmNKm2Q82waWehQuWTDuTBJd3D
16YrfyvfzzpXAQ188TVdbR2MzD1sp8neVZ
19L8MKgSDHSHFKhmJ7majiZ1AH1iPSTuC6
1FZ8sJkerQrc8PNPgWJ7zBaaw2k1Hwvr2g
1NiBBgWt4yfPL6M5EcRbQa48mjLYv3Um3c
1BuVM5skScCLngMhnusbMqytdb2JuQHM1f
19UWDgvdhPBdsm54HbGyQwdyWvdtNWK9js
1NiHRRYgQPHKNKrEJMsSMLLQsfXQy7C3HQ
18ffV1ErZQWbEMb5XBXWLvwn2JNiJd1oBi





Okay, Let's experience, close Iancoleman Html, and open it again by import BIP32 Root Key to BIP32 Root Key box, Are you got the same public key? Of course yes. we will get the same BTC Address. But can we get the same address by importing Account Extended Private Key into the BIP32 Root Key box?, of course, yes, but you need Clicking specific path - BIP32 tab, The BIP32 derivation path and extended keys are the basis for the derived addresses.

Okay, Let's experience by importing BIP32 Root Key into electrum wallet. Create new wallet, on keystore box ticking use master key,

you will get address:
Code:
1L1oES4VVTVPhzC1ELDpyRH1CB7x13eiDY
1M5xHAJTKGFkz9Lh7sMoURLLbBjmKcDwPq
16mjp7TkWRYXiT4f1MvgpwoPYpBNnm1d2L
1Nh63pNWKmtP8mLz64SbJHxWskhumHJxLV
12xZpEEJUgPQFF7Gef4eCo7RupFQHrq9jr
159KmH1wZoUYVnpeqyyJtYhccjHxQWGgbH
16LSzyxnfhxNvTJkn9EYpZ5EwBM4msyKRi
126nQtKwr4Ln4YmyvFBd9C8TDH3DzWuYVb
1GjrMQhvH9x9JGSXkzWU1vo6JdVXkQFsWw
1PPTfF7TfqBv1H59hkHXMBNDh5AGKJXmXd
1L9BNXffxA39Fhi5VvgxoRifCG2NZ7eswq

It will get the same address if importing it into Iancoleman HTML to BIP32 Root Key box and select BIP 32 in Derivation Path.

How to get the same address when importing MPK into electrum?, by importing Account Extended Private Key into Keystore box when begin to create a new wallet.





Can we import electrum MPK? sure. I did a test. how to get MPK?, go to console and write getmasterprivate()

Electrum Seed
Code:
east alpha glare jealous federal rail bless staff banner unfold crystal excite

Master Private Key
Code:
zprvAZrVEE8P7AUEdxJZFPgVz9cuDbYackc5Gnk6F8ekEMFdCDa7icALWk9edVxT3hm2gqF8sqEEWR8vzaxnWAGqi6wUbh8Hpi5Ng7R8xXRpme8

Public key (BTC address)
Code:
bc1qymy0auqu48yzd9aqswfzu753txu6rsux6epm0h
bc1qfxrjyq78z7puvcjegfx957vldhfdawjzwcsdv9
bc1qv2g455q2cfwn7nzzp0h7qd5cg73wzh2u3z4jyy
bc1qxhp3eukw9qt9ptvf6rfgem4hy90xtrxy68kmaj
bc1qx3mc6390qud2uyn8tkyja7a7hy9we82vjrt9yy
bc1qysz4gtl3jr0jsyrv4xquc44nfscff94vqwvkkk
bc1q7yxjm6ed5ck5gty35x4epzep7rfjqj43h97tcr
bc1q3aayrtmgseugru39cj7fwhaqjak22lwstm7thp
bc1qdzfcxymmy6fwkcghj5m754elj2myk80pmzkfzs
bc1qnwrwky7gdm8lwv0w94sxj86kg5ghfk63hsu6nq
bc1qygmtr6x0a62yc3nrys2t575v8d2256yuu397e4

By importing MPK into BIP32 Root Key in iancoleman html then select BIP141 on derivation path tab, choose P2PWKH



You will get the same address as an Electrum wallet.





Okay, this guide may be difficult when reading either, you must practice using that tool and create your own experience using it. because Experience Is The Best Teacher

Creating this guide, beginners do not worried if you lost a wallet and still keeping MPK only, but it's more technically difficult to recover an account. So, please keep you 12 or 24 seed in a safe place you will be saved.

A. https://learnmeabitcoin.com/beginners/keys_addresses
B. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=19137
C. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki
D. https://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/40821/difference-between-account-extended-private-key-and-bip32-extended-private-key
4658  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Tokocrypto launch toko token on: November 12, 2020, 10:24:53 PM
Jadi rasanya ga mungkin kalo indodax bikin token / koin lagi
Bisnis sapa yang tau gan, apa lagi hype defi gini. TEN diluncurkan saat Hype ICO, kalau otak bisnis main, tentu akan ikut juga main di defi dengan meluncurkan hal yang seperti itu. atau jangan-jangan udah, https://tadpole.finance/

kalau mau baca whitepaper nya dsini http://bit.ly/WPTKOIn_ETC
entah napa WP token selalu bentuknya gini, ujung-ujung bisnis dan uang. tidak ada yang sebagus WP dari ini atau ini
4659  Other / Meta / Re: Is this place ever going to get a mobile view option? on: November 12, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
I accessing forums using Firefox browser, look mobile friendly. for more comfortable, rotate your phone into a landscape. It's safer than using a third party.
4660  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dangdutcoin ---distributed ccoin for dangdut comunity--- on: November 12, 2020, 11:20:47 AM
kemungkinan dia sibuk lagi membuat whitepaper, lihat akun nya sudah tidak aktif dalam seminggu lebih,
terakhir aktif di 4 november, sangat disayangkan jika tidak ada kelanjutannya, padahal projek ini cukup membuat saya penasaran haha,
saya juga penasaran tentang team mereka, apakah memang real atau bukan, atau hanya omong kosong saja.

Banyak yang harus diurus ama OP, bukan hanya WP tapi juga hak cipta, ujug-ujug karena ribet konsep tdk jadi alias batal.

Sebetulnya kalau mau ditelisik lebih dalam OP ane kira hanya kasih lelucon, dia terakhir ngepost mei 2017 dan woke up oktober 2020 langsung bikin thread ini. kelihatan tidak matang dan tanpa persiapan apa pun. oleh karena itu, sesuai petunjuk senior di atas ane, jangan diharapkan.
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