i wouldnt say it was a 'education state' id say it is more of a influencer state we are seeing more prevalent in the last couple decades

more kids 'learn' from influencers. whether it be a teacher, or their parents or even TV/media
kids are influenced to act a certain way by what they have observed by influencers.

even things like what the president of a country does influences people. there are the idiot community that believe trumps words even when he is being an idiot they patriotically follow him like drones

then there is the social media influencers that make kids think they deserve to be famous without putting in any hard work (millenials).

then there is the news medis influencers that make the poor feel like they should remain stuck in their situations an not better themselves by pushing the stereotypes.
yep black slavery ended many decades ago. but media push the 'black lives matter' as if its still the 1800-1950's of segregation..

even now media try to push the racial divide.
in the UK during march 10.7k whites died of covid. whilst only 470 indians died of covid. yet media is pushng hard and trying to promote community groups that are shouting out that indians are more at risk of covid than whites.

so yea.. its a influencer state not education state. because true education is about learning useful things. influencer state is brainwashing people with stupid thoughts

Yes, if the state requires an education for employment, then it must pay for education. And then everyone will decide to learn it or not.

Not sure yet, but I do know that I started learning a lot more since I got out of school.

One thing I did learn in school, was not to let school get in the way of your education.

I believe that the state should pay for education only. Special education must be paid by the business which then employs qualified specialists in their enterprises. So many talented young people cannot afford to pay for education and therefore remain unclaimed. It is not correct.

I accept as true with you that nobody will consider education during the war everyone will fight for survival Education acquires and develops our knowledge But money is required in life. Everything is feasible with money but the urge to survive through education can't be found Therefore albeit the state of education is unbroken money is required.

Education = money

Throughout history, civilizations have formed around different guiding principles or philosophies.  Different types of states utilize different methods of maintaining political stability, governing birthrates and resource consumption in order to facilitate social and economic progress.  Yet, usually, one method is dominant and thus forms the basis of state power.  Over time, civilizations may take on different attributes of each type, or move from one form of state to another.  These types include:

• The Warfare State -- Help your friends.  Harm your enemies.  Plunder the countryside.  
  • Monarchies tend toward the Warfare State.
  • Prerequisites: resource scarcity, economic dependency
  • Examples:  Roman Empire, Imperial Britain, Imperial France, Imperial Germany, Imperial Japan, Imperial Russia.
  • It works because:  You either win and get more resources or you lose and have fewer mouths to feed.
  • It stops working when:  You run out of enemies who are better-off than you.
• The Welfare State -- Re-distribution of wealth.  Equal poverty for all.  
  • Democracies and oligarchies tend toward the Welfare State.
  • Prerequisites:  wealth disparity, strong central government
  • Examples:  USSR, 20th century Britain, USA & Europe, some ancient Middle-Eastern societies
  • It works because:  Non-starving people have fewer children.
  • It stops working when:  You run out of wealth to re-distribute and/or the economy implodes.
• The Eugenics State -- Survival of the fittest (in theory, at least).  
  • Republics tend toward the Eugenics State.
  • Prerequisites:  cultural diversity, economic austerity
  • Examples:  Sparta, Roman Republic, Nazi Germany, Colonial America
  • It works because:  You can have as many citizens as you want if they are all hard working.
  • It stops working when:  People find out how it works.
• The Education State -- Big Brother sends you to re-education camp.
  • Technocracies tend toward the Education State.
  • Prerequisites:  resource abundance, economic stability, diffuse government structure
  • Examples:  19th century USA, China, 21st century Africa?
  • It works because:  Educated people work productively in their own self-interest to support themselves.
  • It stops working when:  You run out of new technologies or resources, and growth stagnates.

This thread is primarily to recognize the existence of the Education State as a thing and to discuss its properties.  Though all discussion is welcome.

So what properties make the Education State superior?  Education is ultimately just information transfer, which theoretically has a zero bound on cost.  Education is ostensibly meritocratic, hopefully avoiding the unfortunate economic results of the Welfare State.  Compulsory education has relatively few downsides in terms of human rights.  Furthermore, unlike some others, the Education State can be global, egalitarian and completely decentralized.

What are the downsides of the Education State?  These include the downsides of any state, including corruption, abuse, and perversion of ends.  As social critics have pointed out, perverse consequences of the Education State can be especially nefarious due to its cloak of benevolence, which can be used to hide ill intentions.  One generally unrecognized potential downside of the Education State is a downside of any centralized technocracy or meritocracy, namely technological economic centralization, leading to magnification of risk and likely systemic failure.  Another downside of the Education State is that it tends towards utopianism, and thus fails in natural competition with more realistic alternatives.

Where is the Education State today?  With the internet and computing revolutions, the increasing tenuousness of the Welfare State in developed Western economies, and the opening of sub-Saharan Africa to development, much of the world is currently moving toward the Education State model.  At the same time, however, resource conflict, advanced propaganda techniques and information censorship are pushing the world back toward the Welfare/Warfare States.

I believe that the state should pay education to low-income families if their child is talented or children who do not have parents.

I believe that the state should pay education to low-income families if their child is talented or children who do not have parents.

Education = money