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1801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rating-Trading on: December 04, 2022, 02:43:06 PM
I am one person who doesn't believe in trading signals or trading signal VIP groups. Most if not all are just scam. It's better learning how to trade and then creating a strategy suitable for your trading style.

Many people doesn't understand the concept you made via the emphaises of, i do understand majority of people prefer taking signal of trading from people instead to look for the possible way of learning trading on their own.and secondly learning of trading as a beginner supposed to start by understanding the market chart, because chart is basics thing someone who wants to understand trading have to understand first.
1802  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The patience to hold is a gift on: December 04, 2022, 01:45:04 PM
To hold especially for an average investor is a strong contention to deal with. Over and again we hear the echo of hold from every where around the crypto industry. Long term will always pay big someday but for the investors who have nothing to spare their investment could be tempting. The urge to withdraw will always come. Sometimes not for pleasure but to solve pressing needs.
It's on the detriment of an investor to decide when to make withdraw of it's investment, it's not mandatory that you keep holding your funds when you are encounter with a problem. So that's why in every time we so emphasis that the best way of investment or holding a coin is with your spare funds.

Some investment that will trigger the investors to cash out the investment when theirs pressing issues to the investors, meaning that such investors to have a target before venturing into the investment, so any long term investment have a specific target and duration because cashing out the investors funds.
1803  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Will Be bottom Of BTC in 2022 Year ( Current Price= $16000 ) on: November 29, 2022, 10:42:20 PM
The difficult thing now is because the price looks difficult to rise, even 2 days ago the price drops below $ 16k, fortunately the price can return to $ 16k again, hopefully FTX will be finished soon and there are no big cases that make the market drop, if it doesn't happen FTX I'm sure at this time the price is more than $ 25K.
Do you know that their is nothing we are experiencing in cryptocurrency now we have not experienced before, the price of Bitcoin stand to flow up and down, and it's very clear that Bitcoin price can rise today and fa back tomorrow, let us have its in mind that's the nature of Bitcoin.
1804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's understand about what can be the actual long term holding... on: November 29, 2022, 10:37:10 PM
Long term investments should be multi-year investments where the holders must be willing to put up with market fluctuation and avoid them as much as possible. They just need to be optimistic that in the long term bitcoin can provide good return for the holder even though no one can guarantee return. They shouldn't ignore risk, it's more important than aiming for big long-term gains.

However, there is nothing to force, they can be holders for 2-4 years, 3-5 years, or 10 years, the important one they know that bitcoin is the best investment in the long term.
Actually you are right, some people misunderstand the scenario of long term investment in cryptocurrency, I'm referring us during the time Bitcoin were established, and people who happen to purchase Bitcoin at affordable price and kept for more years, they made a reasonable profit through the increment of Bitcoi. So long investment of for some years are best that can give an investor a mega profit due to bullrus of Bitcoin over the years.
1805  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you think the market will take to recover? on: November 29, 2022, 10:29:15 PM
No one can tell the exact timing of how long it will take for the market to recover there is always volatility in the market and the value of currencies is not fixed.  markets is not unusual.
You are perfectly right, because Bitcoin is a digital and a decentralized currency which i believe that Bitcoin the volatility is dependable by anyone, predicting the exact time it can rise or recover from price downfall will be unethical and assumptions by people, because everyone is aware that Bitcoin price is been regulated via price through people who is investing for cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin.
1806  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when trading gives you heart problem. on: November 29, 2022, 10:22:20 PM
Mainly the reason why I stopped trading. lol. I tried trading for a month and with how uncertain the market is, I decided to just stop. My anxiety can't take the daily pressure I get in it.  Cheesy
In everything you do, you most have the key of the things you are curious having, trading demands for attention and focus and if you have divided attention in trading you might continuously having loss at every season through my view. What trading needs, is to understand the rudiments, when you understand it and be able to understand the movement mof the chart and the candle sticks theirs nothing will make you not to be profitable via trading.
1807  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why everybody is panicking ? Its a game of greed and fear ! on: November 29, 2022, 10:16:22 PM
As strange as it may sound, this is to be expected. It is important to understand that the market is partly a game on the feelings and emotions of traders. So, it's all quite understandable.
The one of the reasons while some people are curious or panicking to sell out their coins, is because, some of the investors mindset in cryptocurrency is that the price will not quickly ressurect, and it's obvious and understanding that cryptocurrency is unpredictable and can be described as market rotation. Because no one can have the time of the bullish even been a master of chart interpreter.
1808  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long term Crypto winning strategies on: November 29, 2022, 10:00:59 PM
In my opinion that we should hold Cryptocurrency for long term until 2025 and we might see results that might be astounding and that could be the future.
And also I want to say that crypto market is good for us long term not short term and it could be a future. So also I wanna say I am holding my crypto till 2025.
It's very encouraging and acknowledging to hold a coin and especially a coin that have a potentiality like Bitcoin, so i believe some people today who are millionaires and billionaire through cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin started with when Bitcoin price is low before the invest and hold for long periods of time. In the aspect of Bitcoin increasing in 2925, it's not stamped that Bitcoin most experience bullrun in 2025, theirs every tendency that Bitcoin can fall beyond people's imagination in 2025, and their is every tendency that the price can accelerate more than our expectations in 2023 which is next year, everything is dependable by the investors.
1809  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Secret of success in futures trading on: November 29, 2022, 09:53:22 PM
Nothing shows you to be the best trader. Traders that are good don't brag about it. Moreover you have not shown your past trades since you claim to be the best. ..

He has another thread in which he provides trading signals. But these signals are not accurate. I checked only his last 2 signals and both of them ended in a stop loss - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422855.msg61361951#msg61361951. OP is completely anonymous, so one day he may just disappear, taking your money with him.
In that particular thread, i was emphasizing to op, that saying that people should pay some amount of funds for signal is not totally right, since it's a beginner let op give a bonus of release of fre signal let people check it's credibility in signal dispensing. And right now you have peruse into the signal and understand or find out a loophole. So it's better for we to build up reputation first before venturing into what can not finish because of money.
1810  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when trading gives you heart problem. on: November 29, 2022, 09:47:40 PM
We know that the market is dynamic,as in it changes constantly,and as such,an investor who isn't careful enough to know when he is investing will fall in to heart problems or emotional trauma as a result of a massive fall in value,that is why it is important to condition your mind in a way that you won't get heart failure when you are at the loosing end.
Every investor knows there is risk in the game,and taking the risk is what shows you are ready to eradicate poverty from your life.
Primarily it's advisable or encouraging for any investor in cryptocurrency even outside of cryptocurrency investment to know exactly that in investment two things are been involved either you venture into disadvantages, neither you venture into advantages, so therefore the advice of investment of crypto pin point that " You have to invest with what you can lose"

Because investing what you can't lose can cause a lot of damage in your life and mostly when you lend funds to venture into investment.
1811  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 10K BTC Linked to Mt.Gox Moved! on: November 29, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
i believe that keeping your coin when the market is on bullish is the best method of investment,
The line that I bolded above made me confused.
Because usually when I see that my profit was there when there's a bull trend market, I cut it off so that I already have my profit and the rest just keep it again for an investment for a long period of time. 
sheenshane, you're right. Profit in the pocket is better than one on the screen. There's even a safer way to play in this market and I'm sure those who've kept it that way haven't had any regrets. One shouldn't allow greed overshadow one once it comes to taking profit. At every point, it's better to half the risk by taking half of one's profit off the table and allow the rest run with a stop loss. Otherwise, the profit may return to loss. It's better half a profit in one's pocket than expected full and bloated elusive profit.
You and I knows very well what leads some investors into disadvantages of cryptocurrency, and i believe that market is very attractive because of profit earn at some point, so most of us today who complained of losing funds over investment the beginning or genesis of lose is been determined by the greediness of the investors, some this particular concept is certain already.
1812  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC, more closer bullish days ahead. on: November 29, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
Something good will surely happen in the future, since the bear season is still flowing in the market for those that missed it to use this bear period to buy and hold for bull market to come before they can sell. Many researchers has predicted that the price of Bitcoin will surely make a massive move in this month of November, which there are some signs in the crypto market that, show that bull season is very close to bitcoiners to enjoy in the community. If you are still waiting for Bitcoin price to decrease more than $20k in this month of November before you can buy, I guess, you will miss the opportunity because the price is preparing to increase higher for both traders and investors to experience bull market.
Bitcoin price don't have a specific time of decrement and increment from my perspective, the way i have seen Bitcoin this year of 2022, it was totally under struggle, many people have loose this year because of continuous bearish market in the market, so even this remaining months November and December Bitcoin can not accelerate, but some people have been making some emphasis that Bitcoin price will continue to rise.

Usually in November or December every year the price always rises, but in November 2022 it makes us have to be patient because the market continues to decline, of course we never think that the market is too fast to drop and if we count the decline of more than 75% compared to the price of ATH in the year 2021.
That's misconception and believe of people, because it's not systematic or been assured that such will be repeating itself every year, they might be occurrence of Bitcoin price been increased in same months in three consecutive time's, that doesn't mean that, it's stable or stagnant. So their is every tendency of reoccurrence of month change in Bitcoin price, because the major objectives that causes Bitcoin increment is been determined by the ratio of the investors purchasing large quantities of Bitcoin.
1813  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long term Crypto winning strategies on: November 28, 2022, 04:54:32 PM
In my opinion the best strategy for Hold Top Coins such as Bitcoin, ETH, BNB and others is long -term hold, I'm sure the market will continue to grow so that with strong coins and hold for long term, we have the opportunity to get large profits. Whereas daily trading is great for new listed coins.
The main important reason of holding a coin for a long period of time, is because of increment of a particular coin, and that increment can take place in a situation whereby Bitcoin have experience a bullrun. And advising someone to hold a coin for long period, it should be determined by the validation or how potential is the coin. Because sometimes people do not care for the coin that's in their portfolio and they decide to hold for long run. The coin that is advisable to invest for long time is Bitcoin only, because it's increment determine the increment of Ethereum.
1814  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reminders to all Crypto Lovers on: November 28, 2022, 04:43:49 PM
Scammers have a diversified method of scamming in exchange, sometimes if you are novice in some certain exchanges you will lose your coin through a scammer's who update a scam payment receipt to claim the payment of another person, so we have different kinds of scam and we have to be watchful concerning cryptocurrency scam, and secondly cryptocurrency investment scam that always take effect in the telegram social media platform and Facebook social media platform. So all these are a place whereby scammers do capture people who are curious via investment.
1815  Economy / Speculation / Re: How low will BTC's market price go? on: November 28, 2022, 02:07:54 PM
Bitcoin price prediction is impossible but with my thoughts and desires I also want bitcoin to drop below $12k. If bitcoin can drop below 12k it will cause extreme panic in the market and many people leave the market. But for me it will be an opportunity, when others are afraid we should be greedy. Although it would be a bit cruel but if there was no panic in the market who would sell cheap bitcoin for us to buy.
Everyone wants the stability of Bitcoin price that will be favorable for him, Bitcoin price going to twelve thousand (12k) will be a very big lose for some people while some people whose their target is to buy more of Bitcoin will be a beneficiary to it. But in some point, Bitcoin going to twelve thousand to ten thousand (12k-10k) is totally a disadvantage to people who purchase Bitcoin when the price was at stage of thirty thousand and twenty five thousand (30k-25k) so it's depends on the individual target of investment.
1816  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hello Im trader i do binance futures trading see what i can Do here on: November 28, 2022, 01:56:29 PM
Do you know that this concept you are using is totally unethical, indecencies that many people mindset will go directly that you are curious to obtain from people. Actually  if you want to be given people signal concerning trading, you have to give some of the preamble of your strategies first.

And secondly in some extent nobody have seen or notify any explanation concerning the formation of the signal, nobody can agree to make any payments of having signal for trading with having free first that will make him to believe how your trading signal skill should go.
I don't see anything wrong with showing some signals here since this is a crypto forum. OP is trying to do business here and I think this is the way he think in gathering potential clients here. But yeah I agree that it is better to share some clue on how he get the signals that he shares, A chart would be enough I guess and some explanation would be better since I'm assuming that his potential clients has a little knowledge about trading. I haven't verified his signals, I hope someone could verify his accuracy at least.


Yes i think it's right for me to show my activity here to traders so they can decide If they can make profit together with my trading skills.
Im sure If people watching here then they can decide i want to build my own trading team.

Team work is always better Smiley
I think that i have responded this above the comments that we have been discussing here.have not condemn the fact that your ideology is bad, but i tried to let you know that you have portray your things in accordance, you and I knows that community of bitcointalk welcomed development, we all embrace innovation and this your kind of innovation. You building a personal team is a welcomed development but try as much to have or build a reputation with your team.
1817  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 10K BTC Linked to Mt.Gox Moved! on: November 28, 2022, 01:33:07 PM
Nothing we can avoid, even that whale just dump all of his bitcoin, we can only do 2 things, just keep Hodl or buying the dip when he dumped his bitcoins. No need reason to sell as well when he dumped.
You are right, some of our people does not comprehend the investment of Bitcoin during the bearish market and bullish season, in actual sense for people who have known the genesis of cryptocurrency investment, they do not invest in shitcoins during the period of bullish market, i believe that keeping your coin when the market is on bullish is the best method of investment, some people do panic and sell out their Bitcoin when market is going more dip, the only way we can make profit via cryptocurrency investment is through long hold of Bitcoin and buying addition of Bitcoin for investment.
1818  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hello Im trader i do binance futures trading see what i can Do here on: November 28, 2022, 01:22:44 PM
don't see anything wrong with showing some signals here since this is a crypto forum. OP is trying to do business here and I think this is the way he think in gathering potential clients here. But yeah I agree that it is better to share some clue on how he get the signals that he shares, A chart would be enough I guess and some explanation would be better since I'm assuming that his potential clients has a little knowledge about trading. I haven't verified his signals, I hope someone could verify his accuracy at least.
I'm not against op sharing it's knowledge of signal trading via the community, just try to peruse into my comment, i only emphasizing on the simple or little explanation of it's trading signal, actually some people use formation to lead some people into negative of trading after been paid for the fees to obtain the signal. So i still emphasis on the point that op should give a bonus of free signal in order to create awareness and also build it's reputation first. Before asking or demanding for any fees first.
1819  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Share your Crypto experience. on: November 28, 2022, 01:14:27 PM
Trading with analysis is a must needed. My experience about crypto trading is not so good at all. I lost a huge amount got liquidated in future trading. We need to make short trades according to the analysis chart. That will be a great experience of trading.
What i want to make you to understand concerning trading of cryptocurrency, is that it needs more information and research, when you get updates from people you know that is master of trading and obtain knowledge of cryptocurrency from them. It will make you to understand the concept of cryptocurrency very well. So therefore i believe that cryptocurrency is trading is not easy and if precaution is not taken very well will be having a constant lose in trading. And that's while am telling you to know the rudiments of crypto trading before venturing into it.
1820  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long term Crypto winning strategies on: November 28, 2022, 12:03:38 PM
the only winning strategy that matters is called bitcoin.
as any other currency has been created for expenses. however since there is not inflation you can even hodl and wait for better time.

the rest, the various altcoins or shitcoins are just a big risk and something truly different from bitcoin.
Isn't easy at all to understand, even because everyone is shilling their coin Wink even because it's not easy to digest all subtle implications of an innovation like bitcoin.

Anyone who knows about Bitcoin supposed to know that Bitcoin is the best among other cryptocurrency for investment, whoever investing in altcoins in the name of best to invest don't no actually the best kind of cryptocurrency investment someone can venture into and obtain a profit for the investment, should be Bitcoin.

Altcoins can be good to be invested when their is a bullish market, because i believe that all this shitcoins always give off on the way if cryptocurrency experience a bearish market, so no one can at this particular time cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin is experiencing constantly disvalue in the price.
Bitcoin is indeed the safest investment compared to other coins. Everyone should realize this that if we want something that is less risky in the long term then bitcoin is the first choice.
I personally place bitcoin as an asset that I must have before other coins, say like ETH, BNB or other coins. I think it would be very unfortunate to hold other coins but not hold any bitcoins. For me whatever the amount is, I have to have it.
We are deriving in a particular direction, because it's very obvious that cryptocurrency have branches and Bitcoin is the genesis of cryptocurrency and also most the valuable coins among other cryptocurrency someone can invest and have rest of mind. Other coins is good to be invest when you scrutinized the chart of the market and notice that Bitcoin is about to rise.

so that's the opportunity you can invest in altcoins and make profit, so that when invest and bullish market meet up the investment, it's the process whereby altcoins investment can profitable. But in terms of long term investments Bitcoin is the best among any other coins. I want to remind you that Bitcoin is the father of other cryptocurrencies and other coin's are subcoins.
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