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1  Other / Meta / Re: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. on: January 27, 2024, 05:11:10 PM
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=63.0

I actually thought to register for a second then I saw this thread above. Look at this beauty^

Conclusion:

This forum is trying to milk their users. If you go there and think you can milk them, think twice. Did theymos ever force any of you to pay for the forum expenses? Ever? This forum (shitcointalk) sells the basic forum features in the name of paying their expenses. (The expenses probably include a 50 feet long sailboat too) And you lose something when you don't post so they are forcing you to be active all the time (unless you pay to stay inactive)

This is worse than yobit's forum. This is a full blown pyramid scheme.

first of all, please remove these images, you are not authorised and we do not wish this to be displayed outside of our forum, you are free to join and write whatever you want, but taking screenshots to criticise on another platform, that's a bit too much, don't you think ?

Second, btt have tons of money, to do whatever they want, we do not have enough money to execute our basic plans, and we want to do a lot, and growth and development requires a lot of money. Startups spend millions on growth and development... Also for the records, paying users are a rarity, almost all special ranks were granted in the early days of the forum ... back in 2017-18!

There are only few features that are paying, and these features are problematic and require close monitoring, hence they were rendered unavailable, but then much much later, they were made available for special ranks and donors ...
Not your business to decide how another forum should be run IMO.

Every feature in altt was well thought about ... It is not bitcointalk, it is an entirely different forum, you sould not expect exact same rules and modus opperendi.
2  Other / Meta / Re: The effect the mixer ban has had on the forum. on: January 27, 2024, 10:22:45 AM
They knew they could get paid by posting in the other forum and knew mixers would be paying the highest rates therefore they followed where another revenue stream went. I have not read any reason from members stating they went there (or want to go there) in order to improve the other forum with their contributions.
Well, that's the sad truth. I refuse to believe someone makes an account there for other reason than money. However, I don't believe the overwhelming majority in bitcointalk would voluntarily contribute to their fellow forum users either. Perhaps occasionally, but certainly not with the same eagerness and frequency.

I can understand criticism about payments and weird rules there, but let's not forget about evil IP that is not available in any other forum, asking people to pay Bitcoin to complete registration is only available on Bitcointalk forum.
Isn't there a list of users who can whitelist you for free?

Another thing about funds for servers and money for maintaining website, it's easy to criticize others when bitcointalk collected enough money from donations and ads to last a lifetime
That is precisely why no other forum can compete. When you have enough money to operate for years ahead, without ads, with paid moderation (even if not enough), even with a YouTube series, you can at least be the one with the aim to be as free as possible.

BlackHatCoiner it is sad to see you leave altcoinstalks, but you can teleport back whenever you want, we will always welcome you with open arms.

Allow me, if you may, give my 2 cents on this discussion.
1- What are forums ? Do forums have a fighting chance against the many centralized platforms ? In the past forums were the way to discuss a topic, now you have facebook groups, subreddit, discord and so on ...

2- What is the purpose of bitcointalk or other crypto forums ? Educating ? Ok, but there are now so many resources out there that are more user friendly and search engine friendly ... And better researched, concise ...

3- Making money is the reason 99% of people got in crypto, some invested, other joined bounty campaigns and some launched some crypto coins, yes a lot want to discuss crypto, but as stated in point 1, they now have a lot of alternatives.

4- Bitcointalk have enough money to last a lifetime, but Altcoinstalks will evolve with time, we will do everything required and needed to stay relevant in a highly changing world. We do not have the money but we have the will and determination to be of service to the crypto community.

5- We do not see Bitcointalk as the enemy,  anyone seeing Altcoinstalks as such, is narrowminded.
3  Economy / Reputation / Re: What is going on??? on: January 25, 2024, 08:20:28 AM
dude, the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version, the answer you got in the link, official statement, passwords are encrypted.
can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

It's literally one line of code to store the original password before hashing it.    For all we know, the bitcointalk hack was just another way Theymos scammed; selling the unhashed passwords under a pseudonym.   (Edit:  probably not though, he scammed much more coin pretending to develop bitcoin)

You, on the other hand, copied this forum so I'd be more likely to believe you have unsalted passwords as well.

there are something called software, both these forums rely on open sourced software, this software used by thousands of forums, thus "copied" is a bit too much ...
anyway, altt forum exists since 2017, that's almost 7 years, with thousands of members. You guys just to argument for argument sake ...





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Of course it's suspicious! Just like altcoins, ICOs, NFTs, DeFi and Ordinals, your forum is also created to make money for the creator. And like many others, you need Bitcointalk to promote your little scheme.

you have trust issues bro
you admit also distrusting ethereum, bnb, xrp ...

from altt perspective, users are asked to use unique passwords, these passwords are encrypted , if you believe the admin or not, it does not matter.
- i am not gonna reply, enough time wasted on too far fetched arguments.

cheers and have a nice day




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4  Economy / Reputation / Re: What is going on??? on: January 25, 2024, 12:05:35 AM
Passwords are encrypted on Altt : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316088.0
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Passwords can not be decrypted they are hashed one way.
That doesn't mean anything. If the site owner wants, he can store all passwords and the users won't know about it.

dude, the software is exactly the same as this forum, even newer version, the answer you got in the link, official statement, passwords are encrypted.
can the software be modified to store unencrypted passwords, probably possible, but then again everything is possible, statoshi being trump is also possible.

I am not going to even entertain stupid insinuations. just because you dislike altcoinstalks, it does not make it suspicious.
Either way, a message is being displayed to all teleported members now on altt to have a different password.

And as i mentioned previously, altt admin does not need the money, altt admin distributes few hundred dollars monthly, every week there is at least a giveaway or raffle or revenue share ...

cheers, and have a nice day.
5  Economy / Reputation / Re: What is going on??? on: January 24, 2024, 12:47:04 PM
Passwords are encrypted on Altt : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316088.0

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Passwords can not be decrypted they are hashed one way.
6  Economy / Reputation / Re: What is going on??? on: January 23, 2024, 04:15:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/V7zECKQ.png

altt TL users are asked to have different pwd - just in case.
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: What is going on??? on: January 23, 2024, 02:58:37 PM
hello bitcoiners.
Altcoinstalks admin does not need your money to hack your accounts.
the software operating on Altt is similar to the one used on btt >>> in both cases the passwords are encrypted!

The crypto community is full of dishonest people and scammers. Everywhere ...

Altt admin does not need your money to scam you, and honestly have no idea what half the shit you have here on btt is (including loaning)!

here's a topic to read : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.0

8  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk mixer ban, Altcointalk is active in that scope. on: January 17, 2024, 05:22:27 PM
1- strength is not in centralisation, the more bitcointalks the better
2- the more exchanges the better
3- A lot of new forums have came and went, who knows maybe altt will disappear one day, maybe not ... maybe it will grow ... who knows!
4- Links to btt were blocked because some users just spammed their link to the original btt campaign back in 2017-2018, it is no longer the case :
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.0
5- Admin on altt does not have a paid for signature, nor operate any account that have a paid signature.
6- Btt is part of history, nothing can change that, but the defiance have long been lost, it has been replaced with yachts and mansions and compliance.
7- The soldier does not know the importance or not of his sacrifice, but the general surely does.  Bitcoin need altcoins as altcoins need bitcoin.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: January 21, 2021, 12:01:58 AM
I will maybe create an official post with all updated details ?
Sure go for it
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: January 06, 2021, 07:31:24 PM
damn, I almost missed this news. it turns out that now there is a teleport program, so I can join 2 campaigns at once using the same account but different forums. This is very profitable Grin
You are welcome to join
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 27, 2020, 01:29:36 AM
It's a good information to hear, i was a member on Bitcoin Garden forum but never knew about AltcoinsTalks till this moment. Could you guys mention what's special about that forum apart from its main role which is included in the title? It's for Altcoins but do you guys know the people behind that project?
bitcoingarden is an old forum, however it is now mainly articles site, forum almost dead
It is not a competition though all crypto entities have their role
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 23, 2020, 10:41:22 AM
I think DT is direct trade ?

No DT means= Default Trust .

They are the person who can send negative feedback or trust  to other  users that they think is not trustworthy or have scam Accusations open to that users here . It's work only in this forum but i don't know if altcoin talk also have the same position there .maybe , but I'd never visit that forum yet.
Oh interesting concept
Who can issue negative trust? Mods?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 23, 2020, 01:29:18 AM
waw waw waw, finally everything I wanted could come true, to be honest I have known the forum for a long time but I'm just a little lazy if I have to start from scratch, but with this teleport it can make me participate in the bounty campaign there
Btw I just registered there
thank you AlttAdmn
Hello buddy,
It is done  Wink
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 19, 2020, 12:42:46 AM
What do you mean by tagged ?
Tag means when someone's account is marked red by a DT member for an offence.
DT ? T i guess trade, but D is what ?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 17, 2020, 10:44:47 PM
it's quite unfortunate that it has a limitation of Full member which lower rank can't take part it. could it be that they are not qualify or don't make reasonable comment and contributions?

Don't some of you ever read! even members can teleport their account, if you had spare a few minutes to read from top you will see that this has been answered several times, it always pay to go through previous post especially the immediate post to know what has been said, hope you get it.
Haha 😂... no i don't think people actually read replies, unless directly addresses to them ...
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 11, 2020, 07:08:38 PM
Yes I have a high rank here too.

You are a Full member. Do you consider a Full member as a high rank? I do not think it is. But this is just by the way. My question on this is "does the Altcointalk forum have the same ranking scheme as Bitcointalk forum? Since an imported rank will take on the same rank over there. Another question is this, 'will a tagged account here also appear as tagged over there?
What do you mean by tagged ?
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 09, 2020, 12:31:28 AM
O ah nice short
Although i haven't fell clear there instruments which is indeed for teleport rank in altcointalks. I was creating a account in altcointalks with same username even i had sent a message by fourm admin but her respons not clear to me.
was the issue resolved ?
We are working on it, soon. Jocus check your pm
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 08, 2020, 12:43:26 AM
O ah nice short
Although i haven't fell clear there instruments which is indeed for teleport rank in altcointalks. I was creating a account in altcointalks with same username even i had sent a message by fourm admin but her respons not clear to me.
maybe you can provide in detail what is less clear? I also follow their features, and it goes well, the admin there is fast in responding to my chats, and gives directions to me so I can start telepor to altcoin
I pmed him, see if we can resolve this communication issue
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 07, 2020, 12:55:58 AM
O ah nice short
Although i haven't fell clear there instruments which is indeed for teleport rank in altcointalks. I was creating a account in altcointalks with same username even i had sent a message by fourm admin but her respons not clear to me.
I contacted you? I will check. But what wasn't clear?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New feature on AltcoinsTalks forum - you can teleport your rank from bitcointalk on: December 06, 2020, 06:26:15 PM
This is a good move by Altcointalk forum people, if they can retain the loyalty of these new accounts porting over there it would help the forum a lot. Bubalex is championing this and I believe with the level of trust and influence he commands on this forum a lot of people would jump on this opportunity
Indeed amazing observation, retaining the loyalties is key
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