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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: June 04, 2014, 06:24:46 PM
where can I buy this coin within its market value?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg7125148#msg7125148

Here is all places to trade.


I am not surprised there were already a lot of improvements here - like this one posted by babybonobo!
 


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An email exchange with someone at CryptoNote that might help others clear up some details...

"Good afternoon,
I was hoping to hear more details about the developers of ByteCoin. There are rumors and fear being spread around online saying that basically 80% of the ByteCoins were ninja-mined from 2012 up until BCN's recent "public release". I can confirm on the blockchain that 83% of the coins are mined already, but I was wondering if CryptoNote had any historical information or more details about working with ByteCoin devs? Who and how many people actually mined these 154 billion coins?
Thank you for your time... "

RE:CryptoNote

"Dear ----,
It is not of our interest to judge the decisions of Bytecoin developers and its outcomes. The coin was indeed released in July 2012 in a cooperation with us. Bytecoin developers are killer coders and are responsible for the vast majority of the CryptoNote's current code base. However, when the coin was released the two teams took completely different paths. CryptoNote went back to the researches, while Bytecoin was focused on building the cryptocurrency and the community. There are polar views on the current distribution of Bytecoin. What we can confirm is that the coin indeed had several groups of early adopters (related to scientific, educational, and gaming industries) and is likely to be spread among at least a thousand users (may well be more). I hope this helps." 

I agree DStrange conclusion about devs inability to change current situation and affect already mined my first-miner teams
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: June 01, 2014, 07:11:21 PM
Just head over MRO! It has volume:) Hope you guys have a bit of it at least, just to hedge your position in case the return of the Bytecoin dev doesnt come true.

Oh and btw, nice reddit Strange! It's full of fantastic stories. I had a nice read, thanks!

I wouldn't worry about the Bytecoin developers, they are working on the coin (there are no signs of it stopping) and will release good stuff.

The Monero developers are also adding good stuff too, I expect these two coins to grow together, using parts from each. I personally won't invest in Bytecoin, I've made that point clear many times. However I see no signs of the developers of this coin going away. So stop worrying people!

Remember that the developers of Monero and Bytecoin will release their code when it's ready and will not over promise on features. These both are not pump and dump coins so don't expect to see the developer worship here or crazy features for no reason over than pump, pump, pump.

These both are good solid coins and will do well.

Please remember that the main areas of development rests mainly with the core code first, transaction processing, the blockchain size, etc...

The last thing the CryptoNote coins need is a GUI right now so it "takes off" and then we get hundreds of complaints about problems with the chain and stuff. These cryptonote coins are actually anonymous, in time they will shine. Marketing something that isn't ready for prime time can be problematic.

You r reading my mind. Agree with you these two coins have potential. And I am against any gui miners. That's the least thing I am expecting from devs
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 27, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
I wonder why till today? I mean there was already a comment describing what dev should do and when why not till that day??
IMo it's pointless to talk what they should do - better to think what we can do

Totally agree, and that's the point of MRO. All we can do is create clones or implement CN ourselves. Then again the point of MRO might be pointless, because they have a 2 year head start on us. Any work done is probably already invalidated, but maybe not if the BCN devs were kidnapped or something spooky.

Satoshi Nakamoto kidnapped the Bytecoin devs.

 What if he is one of the devs? When he had been kidnapped by himself  ?  Grin
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 25, 2014, 10:43:00 PM
Monero and Quazar are on Bittrex now, why isn't this coin on Bittrex yet Angry

Because they only see dollar signs

Yep. That's the case with majority of exchanges. More paid votes get you listed quickly.

Maybe it's easy way to get an exchange. don't care much about the way how it appears on exchange - the result is more important. I wonder why it has been added to poloniex and comkort still hasn't added it to their exchange?

Keep calm, the sun will shine down our street. I've heard c cex exchange it going to add BCN

Any links to prove it? I won't believe until I see it by myself
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 24, 2014, 05:43:46 PM

Not the best joke I've read.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 22, 2014, 08:01:12 PM
One more update is already here : even more optimized binaries are at official Bytecoin site https://bytecoin.org/ now

Windows https://bytecoin.org/download-windows-bin.php
Linux https://bytecoin.org/download-linux-bin.php
Mac OS https://bytecoin.org/download-mac-bin.php


Up-to-date hash optimization (from the community) and improvements in JSON RPC are included.

Is there any difference compare the yesterday's version? The version is the same like yesterday v. 0.8.9.65<>.   

I received the letter from BCN devs. It said new binaries have faster hash function than yesterday's ones.

IMO devs won't give another ver if there is no changes. I mean no point at all to give people bin files without making any improvements
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 20, 2014, 06:44:24 PM
Concerning how useful this tech is, is there any chance it will be adopted into Bitcoin?
If not the core, how about a side chain?
Putting it in the Bitcoin chain itself is a hard-sell because there is a serious scalability downsize (all the cryptographically strong anonymity techniques break pruning), among other pedestrian reasons.  A side-chain using it seems virtually certain to me, limited more by the deployment of sidechain tech than anything else... even more so than the ZeroCash anonymity design simply because the ring signature approach is so simple by comparison.

But it's all a guess at this stage. Technology progress in Bitcoin is slow— for good reason— and now with the prospect that altcoin pumpers may we well funded to try to disrupt that progress… well, it'll be sad if what kills cryptocurrency isn't competition from traditional financial instruments or authorities but just poisonous behavior between competing systems. :-/

It will be sad indeed.

But I tend to hope for the best, competition is a strong instrument and may (or may not) push the tech centuries ahead, including cryptocurrencies.

I don't know about the "good reason" behind the Bitcoin slow progress. It stuck pretty much where it all began - low anonymity, ASIC problem etc. Popularity is the only thing that keeps Bitcoin afloat.

I bet that if some people took some CN ideas and started to populate it in some super accessible (for masses) way - it would become (eventually, yes) more popular than BTC.

Anywho. For now we're just stuck with BTC monarchy and it's sad. Smiley

Indeed, competition would have an influence on tech progress in cryptos and IMO BTC 'monarchy' will turn into another form of rule
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 12, 2014, 06:13:43 PM
I will be happy to contribute some coins to Khan Academy because I like what these guys do.

It's strange that they're putting "Bytecoin" instead of "BCN". Maybe that's in millions of units. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense.

hmm... I doubt they are talking about units. Maybe they just prefer to use "Bytecoin" instead of "BCN"  Huh
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: May 12, 2014, 04:02:59 AM
1. will you be forking bimonero into a new coin or are you expecting monero to fork away into a new coin.

This is always confusing me - IMO why don't you continue to develop only one coin? what's the necessity to make a fork?

2. you now have to projects.   emontmon, you've meed ''W'' Wink


IMO, point #6 was unexpected and as for point #7, I think, this one is clear (but would like to hear TFT answer)
I think that's because TTF has his own view on everything differ from monero's dev team.
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: *[BCN (Bytecoin)/BTC]* Google Spreadsheet Exchange on: May 12, 2014, 03:54:08 AM
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211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
well.

I for one have depended on input from the community. I do not follow all opinions or statements as fact. I measure it and then act accordingly. however, taco has said that we should update the blockchain. cont to mine with current binaries.

i was wondering if the reason I have not gotten any blocks in the last week is because I have been mining on a corrupted blockchain.

thanks.


The corruption involves substituting early blocks with fake ones (I believe blocks 1 to 1400, which was roughly the first 24 hours of mining). It shouldn't have affected any mining.

If it shouldn't affect mining than what has affected? I don't need to choose now (just trying to figure out what coin to mine) and as well as other guys here I have seen a huge changing recently. can't tell whether it is god or not. HR is high but diff is too high and there must be some explanations not only fortune why me and other guys were unlucky to find blocks recently???
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 08, 2014, 08:10:27 PM
Merged mining is what crypto currencies need now. It allows to use resources effectively and as miner I would like to use this feature. Thanks FantomCoin for this ability..I don’t understand authors of BitMonero, why the didn’t they implement merged mining?? Huh Huh

Because there is no reason to merge mine with a coin that has 80% premine.

Can you explain your statement?


IMHO that GreekBitcoin is trying to support Monero as he is one of it's devs.
The only ''argument'' they have is that BCN was ''premined''!
I would like to quote emontmon as he is independent from MRO and BCN devs, IMO
 
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I don't think it is fair to say bytecoin was ninja mined for 2 tyears. It was most like announced on the deep web. I don't think a third world country can say bitcoin was ninja mined just because they were not aware of it.

I feel as though despite the surface intention of cryptocurrencies to become currency everyone treats cryptocurrency as  comodity. People seem to feel left out easily because they were not part of the early adapters. Bytecoin has my vote because it is easy to mine it and obtain coins.  Now if some one could implement a master coin protocol on top of it to create colored coins it would be great. Perhaps adding it to the exchange is the wrong approach.  It becomes a commodity.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 04:14:05 PM
Diff became really crazy. I wonder why it's so?

Despite the hr is high after several days mining with new Linux miner, 18H/s and nothing. It seems to be more difficult than bytecoin mining.

As for NoodleDoodle would like to quote Hexah

"I remember times when people refused to mine BCN on MinerGate just because it was closed source. And now you have closed source binaries and are happy with it.
Hypocrisy much? Where did all this “open source” fighters go?"


Indeed, why don't you make it open? I would like to see the code, and, IMO, I'm not the only one.
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FCN] FantomCoin. CN-based currency with merged mining. LAUNCHED NOW! on: May 07, 2014, 03:04:52 PM
Is the website down for me only?

Just checked it - it works ok for me. Network problem, maybe.
Try it again!
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FCN] FantomCoin. CN-based currency with merged mining. LAUNCHED NOW! on: May 06, 2014, 07:37:47 PM
GUI has made a difference. No problem with merged mining so far.
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bytecoin (BCN) CPU-mining economics on: May 02, 2014, 02:33:18 AM
Seems CPU mining coins are out dated.

X11 will be the hype soon.

What your prediction is based on?
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 01, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
Hey, guys, are there any other exchange who is going to add Bytecoin for trade?
I wonder it in case Comkort will delay the launch day.
btw, I am good with  spreadsheet one but would like to use professional exchange to trade hereafter
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 01, 2014, 04:17:32 AM
What is the hashrate?

Nearly 30 000 H/s
Wow. Looks like an optimized miner...

What optimized miner do you mean?
I don't know, perhaps someone optimized the miner and is using it... What else could the increase in network hashrate be? gpu miner maybe, botnet maybe..

I think botnet. I dont understand how someone can optimize miner.

Me ever. I was thinking it is pretty difficult to make gpu miner for BCN cause of the cryptonight tech

You never know what programming or algorithmic tricks someone may come up with, but I agree a botnet is more likely.

Don't worry about it, if they want to burn down a botnet to mine a few coins, let them. Self correcting.


I don't think that's a botnet as my laptop is easily doing 2.5 - 3 H/s . So 30,000 H/s is quite normal as there are many powerful cpus out there .

There are many powerful CPUs out there but hardly any of them are owned by people who know about this coin or care to mine it, and it is unlikely that number increased by a factor of three in a few hours.

IMO, that  botnets  are  a lit bit  less risk than massive GPU/ASIC farms. 
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BMR] BitMonero emission curve change (proposal) on: April 28, 2014, 06:04:52 AM
I think sometimes even the small change to the "better state" may have the awfullest results.

You know, it's like drawing. You try to create the best picture ever, it's almost ready but you suddenly find that one line isn't so perfect as it has to be. You decide to use an eraser and draw another line (you are sure it will be better than the first one). No, not so perfect! Eraser! New line! Eraser!.. Ooops, paper is teared. Everything is spoiled.

I'm afraid it may became the story about Monero.
Let's leave this coin as it is.

Superbly written ! very clear comparison you've used here.
   Let's leave this coin as it is.

Can only ass "everyone is perfect in their own imperfect ways"
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: *[BCN (Bytecoin)/BTC]* Google Spreadsheet Exchange on: April 26, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Sold yesterday 700K bcn to Monkeyseemonkeydo! Good trader!

Thanks a lot, dude!

Hello!

For sale: 1,5M BCN for about 0,4 BTC

PM, please



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