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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 30, 2023, 01:22:18 AM
Guess, you don't follow test cricket? Name one spinner who comes close to Ashwin in the red-ball cricket in the last decade. Nathon Lyon is the second best and compare his home-away records. Nathon's Home record and Ashwin's away record are almost the same and stark difference when you compare their home records. In fact, in the last 5-6 away tours Ashwin's numbers are getting a lot more juicer in Australia and England and he's even outbowling Nathon Lyon. Not even bringing Ashwin's batting numbers with 5 tons.

If we follow your argument then the likes of Bradman and Shane Warne also fall in the same category. The former never batted in Asia and the latter performed like a club cricketer in India.

Agreed. During the last decade, Ashwin managed to win countless matches for India. Anyway, we don't have a lot of world class spinners active right now. Gone are the days when there was fierce competition between Muthiah Muralidaran, Shane Warne and Anil Kumble, with Rangana Herath, Harbhajan Singh and Daniel Vettori in the fringes. Right now, Ashwin is the only one who can dominate a test match. Lyon is noway near him, IMO. He is far too incosistent and injury prone. Sri Lanka has some good spinners such as Theekshana and Hasaranga, but they still have a long way to go. 
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 30, 2023, 01:04:47 AM
No matches are scheduled for today at the Asian Games Men's Cricket Competition. However, the Nepal vs Maldives and Hong Kong vs Japan matches are scheduled for tomorrow at Hangzhou. And the final group match will be played on Monday, when Malaysia takes on Thailand. As per current trends, the teams that will qualify for the quarter-final phase will be Nepal, Malaysia and Hong Kong.  These three teams will join the 5 test nations (India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan) at the quarter-final phase.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 ACTUAL DISCUSSION THREAD! on: September 29, 2023, 10:03:21 AM
I am sure the authorities must have kept the weather in mind before scheduling the ODI world cup. The monsoon spell is now over in South Asia but even the humid atmosphere makes it difficult for players to survive 100 overs in the field. It will be a good test of fitness for all team and the team having physical fit players will defiantly have edge. Today we have three warm up matches and today's game will give good idea of weather.

With 3 months every year blocked for the IPL, it is really hard to find suitable slots for major ICC events such as the ODI World Cup. The ICC has also increased the number of such events. T20 World Cup will be played every 2 years now. On top of all this, we have all the useless bilaterals going on. And it is just bilaterals now. Previously we used to have triangular and quadrangular tournaments, but such tournaments have gone into oblivion now. BTW, it is not supposed to rain this heavily in India at this time. These rains are mostly unseasonal and unexpected.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 09:52:44 AM
Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat first. It is warm up match that will  give confidence to  perform well in ICC World
Cup. Pakistan is more confident  team than New Zealand. Pakistan played well in Asia Cup. Now   , it is time to perform well in ICC World. Which will play well in World, would have more chances to win World Cup. Now, Pakistan is playing. Pakistan score is 26 with fall of 1 wicket. Asad Shafique and Babar Azam are on wicket. They are playing well. Babar Azam score is 11 in 21 balls and Asad Shafique score is  12 in 19 balls. Henry took one wicket. In my opinion, Pakistan will win. Pakistan has stronger side than New Zealand. Pakistani bowling is top class whole the world.

Pakistan bowling used to be top class, but that is not the case now. Some of their bowlers are out of form, and some others are injured. But the latest update is that there is a rain interruption. At this point Pakistan are at 80/2, with Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam at the crease. They have made some sort of a recovery, after Henry and Santner reduced them to 46/2. At this point, two of the matches are held up by rain. The other match at Trivandrum, between Afghanistan and South Africa is yet to start as a result of incessant rain.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 29, 2023, 07:36:39 AM
Maldives winning this match by 9 wickets a huge achievement for Maldives. Mangolia was a weak team they only score 60/9 wickets in 20 overs. Davaasuren Jamyansuren is out in 15 score in 39 balls and Mungun Altankhuyag score only 8 runs in 16 balls. Tur-Erdene Sumiya is Not out in 9 runs in 15 balls. Azin Mohamed Rafeeq took 3 early wickets give 10 score is his bowling spell. Mohamed Rayan Tholal also took 2 wickets and all out Mangolia in just 60. Maldives Chase down the target in just 7th overs 62/1. Azin Mohamed Rafeeq also batting very well Scored 24 Not Out and Reward player of the match.

Maldives is not one of the strongest teams in Asia. They have a population of only around 0.5 million and there are no large grounds in the islands. Only when they travel outside their country, they get a chance to play in proper cricket grounds. But Maldives cricket team is active since the 1970s. On the other hand, Mongolians started playing cricket a couple of years ago. And their very first match was against Nepal, which is one of the strongest teams in Asia. But to their credit, in the second match they managed to bat for the full 20 overs.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 07:23:27 AM
First set of warmups are about to start in 1 hour from now, but I am not sure whether we will get to see any action today. Rains are reported in all three cities as of now. Situation in Guwahati is a bit better, but not very encouraging news coming from the other two venues (Hyderabad and Trivandrum). India's first warmup match will be played tomorrow, when they takes on England at the Barsapara Cricket Stadium in Guwahati. They will be playing one more warmup match, against Netherlands on 3rd October at the Greenfield International Stadium in Thiruvananthapuram.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 06:42:02 AM
^^ Idk how credible this "Frosty Relationship" allegation is but the exclusion of Ashwin from the white ball was the right call and it happened during the 2017 Champions trophy. Back then he was in bad form in the white ball and only after that Kuldeep-Chahal duo came into existence and we all know how successful the Kul-cha combination was.

Having said that, it is kinda funny tho, he's a red ball specialist but he got dropped from the WTC finals and somehow managed to get into the T-20/ODI WC squad without any fuss.

I don't want to go into a debate on Ashwin's relationship with Kohli and company, but at least we can agree that he was at times treated harshly by the selectors. And his age is not going to help him either. He is 37-years old, compared to Axar and Kuldeep who are in their late 20s. There is always this argument of giving more chances to the youngsters. At this point I am not even sure whether he will be given an opportunity to get to 500 test wickets (he has 489 at the moment). Overall, Ashwin is a very under-rated player, when we compare him to past legends such as Harbhajan Singh and Anil Kumble.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 29, 2023, 06:30:51 AM
This is the same as if FIFA decided to host a FIFA World Cup in India when India never qualified for the FIFA World Cup. This is strange, isn't it?
The same thing will happen if ICC decides to host a big tournament in the United States of America when they do not have an International presence in cricket. They do play baseball but that is an entirely different sport.

One reason i find is that because USA is a developed country, ICC would want to host cricket competitions there rather than in underdeveloped Asian countries in the hope of getting a lot of funds.

ICC obsession with the United States is well known. They believe that at some point USA will become the cash cow for ICC, similar to the case with India now. But I am quite skeptical about it. Americans have their own leagues such as the MLB, NFL and NBA, and they haven't shown much interest in cricket, which takes 3.5 to 4.0 hours even for the shortest version. Depending on expats from South Asia, South Africa and West Indies also may not work in the long term, as the second generation immigrants show a decreasing interest in cricket when compared to first generation.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 29, 2023, 05:19:38 AM
Without a doubt the low costs of soccer helped its adoption all over the world, as not only a soccer ball is relatively cheap but you only need one, while a sport like hockey is horribly expensive due to the amount of gear you have to get and the same is true for what the people at US call football, baseball is not as expensive but you still need at least a baseball glove for each kid, the only sport that is relatively as cheap as soccer is basketball as you only need a ball too, as depending where you live you could have access to a near basketball court and play there with your friends at no cost for yourself.

In India, a soccer ball of decent quality costs as little as $3. An example here:

https://www.flipkart.com/vector-x-attacker-2-0-football-size-5/p/itm5a496853d67bb?pid=BALGRCAMYH47B2W3

And I agree with you on hockey (both the field and ice varieties). The gear can be very expensive. The same can be said about some of the other sports, such as cricket, tennis, badminton and baseball. On the other hand, there are sports such as basketball and netball, which require expensive facilities. The advantage with football is that you neither need expensive facilities, nor expensive gear. And this maybe one of the primary reasons why football is the no.1 sport around the globe. The situation maybe different in rich nations such as the United States.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: September 29, 2023, 04:59:51 AM
Erling Haaland is a young player that have more years to play football, we would enjoyed every moment during his time as top striker in both country and club football level. On a second thought, he would have gone ahead to nationalized for any strong country like France or Belgium, he would have done quite brilliant because he will play in the midst of outstanding players as teammates and having a tougher coach. Perhaps he's keen on making a name for Norway, he will be the top goal scorer in the country's history if he's consistent in outstanding performance just as club level.

Rikafip made some very interesting observations. Erling Håland is just 23 years old. Martin Ødegaard is just 24. Their attack-midfield looks quite OK. The issue with Norway is with their defense. But similar to the emergence of Håland and Ødegaard, there is a good chance that in due course of time some yong player may emerge and fill the gap in their defense as well. If that happens, then their team balance will get much stronger and they will be able to perform much better in both the Euro qualifiers and the FIFA World Cup qualifiers.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 ACTUAL DISCUSSION THREAD! on: September 29, 2023, 04:48:05 AM
I am not sure how many of the world cup warmup matches will get completed today. One of the friends from Trivandrum (which is hosting the Afghanistan vs South Africa match) told me that it is raining continuously from morning. Other two warmups are being hosted by Guwahati and Hyderabad, and heavy rains are being predicted for these two venues as well. I am still OK with wamups being washed out. But the main tournament will start by 5th October, and it will be a tragedy if any of the group matches need to be abandoned as a result of rain.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 04:38:31 AM
Yes absolutely right. In indian pitches, Ashwin’s spin will surely create an impact in the team. Moreover Ashwin’s experience will also help Team India to tackle the batsmen more easily. Ashwin really did well in the 2nd ODI vs Australia. So yes the selectors did the best changes this time. I would like to include both Ashwin, Kuldeep along with Jadeja in the playing 11. Siraj and Bumrah will do the pace attack along with Pandya, so 6 bowlers are sorted, and 5 primary batsmen. Then this team will surely remain unbeaten.

The issue with Ashwin is not about performance. It is rumored that he has frosty relations with the senior members of the national team, such as Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma. As a result, a lot of times he gets overlooked in favor of low quality spinners such as Yuzvendra Chahal, Washington Sundar and Ravi Bishnoi. Anyway, since the tournament is being played in Indian pitches (which are supportive to spinners), Indian selectors may include both Ashwin and Kuldeep this time (with Jadeja as the backup allrounder). Also, with Axar out due to injury, they don't have too many options to replace Ashwin. 
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 04:12:55 AM
The Indian team performed well in the beginning but the worst performance came towards the end of the match. Although the opening first pair stayed on the field for a long time, the fall of wickets was high later due to which the Indian team lost by a wide margin. Meanwhile Australia team's batting performance was very good. I thank Maxwell. He has done the best bowling performance. He took 4 wickets with 40 runs in 10 overs which is the biggest achievement for the Australian team. It was because of this performance that the Indian team faced the toughest time and was forced to lose.

Maxi (who is near retirement BTW), is not a regular or reliable spinner. Although he picked up 4 wickets during the previous match, I don't expect him to repeat that performance everytime when he plays. Australia doesn't have a quality spinner at this point. Adam Zampa is the only full-time spinner they have included for the world cup squad, but he is quite inconsistent. I guess some of the spin duties will be performed by Glenn Maxwell and Marnus Labuschagne, but overall on the spin department they looks quite weak.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: September 29, 2023, 03:57:01 AM
Went to the Eagle Pass border crossing to see what’s really going on

Source https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707565081750290910


In any case, this will grow into a bigger storyline when the election is near. The Whitehouse should begin working with local politicians in those counties before the storyline starts to mention the word invasion.

Situation at the southern border is just appalling. 8,000 illegals are crossing the border each day, as per news reports. Just in the month of August, a total of 232,000 migrants crossed the border without any sort of paperwork. Rolando Salinos (mayor of Eagle Pass) was forced to declare state of emergency. Border agents can't just deal with the huge numbers who are crossing the border and it is quite possible that some may be slipping through without any background/biometry check. And from the pictures, I can see that >95% of the migrants are military age men, with very few women or children among them.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 03:07:46 AM
India make a big change in world cup squad after the defeat from Australia, Ravichandran Ashwin is back in India ODI World Cup squad 2023. I think this is good addition in team india spin bowling attack. Ashwin is a thinking bowler and a very useful batsman, and in Indian conditions he will be very effective. He replaced the injured Axar Patel in the team. Its a good decision by Indian Cricket Board, Ravindra Jadeja and Aksar Patel are bowlers alike but the World Cup is being held in India an experienced cricketer like Ravichandran Ashwin will certainly benefit Team India and hopefully india has good chance to win world Cup.

Ravichandran Ashwin can be very lethal in Indian conditions (although he has recently improved his performance in the SENA pitches). But it needs to be seen whether he will get a chance to play in the ODI World Cup. For India, the first choice spinner will be Kuldeep Yadav, with Ravindra Jadeja backing him up. Ashwin will get a chance only if India decides to go with 3 spinners. But if they do that, then either one among the pace trio needs to be dropped (Mohammed Siraj-Mohammed Shami-Jasprit Bumrah) or Shardul needs to warm the bench.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 29, 2023, 02:57:32 AM
Ironically, the plan of the governor of Texas of shipping migrants to New York and other blue states may help the Trump campaign in the next year. I have already seen authorities in NYC asking the federal government for help and even people within the democrat party to get worried on the thousands of migrants who have arrived to the city.

If Greg Abbot and other southern governors continue to send migrants to blue states and even purple ones, Trump could take leverage of such situation and regain power over the switching electoral votes. If he goes by such strategy, I would not be surprised to see his odds increasing.

Well.. what else Greg Abbot is supposed to do? His arguments are correct. Why should states such as Texas and Arizona take responsibility for something that resulted from failed policies of the Biden regime? He is doing the right thing by shipping these migrants to sanctuary cities such as New York and Washington DC. That will reduce the burden on southern states such as Texas, and at the same time, citizens in deep-blue cities such as New York who love these illegal immigrants will get an opportunity to help the very people whom they support.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: September 29, 2023, 02:47:30 AM
I wish Haaland had a different nationality.  Grin  I mean I would have liked to watch him playing for a strong national team which is a title contender in big tournaments. Norway are far from that level I'm afraid. They don't have many qualified players in their squad. If they have a golden generation in the future then maybe things would change.

I also don't expect Norway to qualify for Euro 2024. Scotland are doing even much better than Spain. Norway are competing in a group like this now so it is too hard for them to make it to the main tournament.  Sad

This time Norway was unfortunate that they got placed in an extremely strong group. And who expected Scotland to perform the way they are doing now? Spain has been pushed down to the 2nd position, as young Scottish players such as John McGinn, Scott McTominay and Callum McGregor are completely dominating Group A of the qualifiers. Norway may still qualify for the Euro Cup on some other occasion. If not in 2024, then definitely in 2028 or 2032. But I am sad that we may never see them in the FIFA World Cup. With such pathetic defense, they are not going to qualify anytime soon.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 29, 2023, 02:37:20 AM
Even this is first time experiment for them, but I have been believing this is going to be had good profitable for the ICC and media stakeholders because ticket price and media rights are going to give them good profit specially for the matches where we will have subcontinent teams because of their local peoples interest in this game.

Mostly SENA nations will not have luxury like subcontinent in this region but still this is going to be overall good for the all stakeholders because now we have the good number of peoples those are from subcontinent countries and their contribution is going to be vital for this event and all stakeholders.

Now here I want to mention one more thing in which matches we will have India these could be most profitable as others can face some low interest but Indians surely going to have big marginal edge.

I am not sure how profitable it will be to host the major tournaments in the United States. Whatever benefit that comes from the increased gate collection will be neutralized by decreased viewership in India due to unsuitable timeslots. Staging such tournaments in regions such as the middle-east would be a better option IMO, as the time zone is not too different from that in India. USA is significant because there is a cricket loving expat community with huge purchasing power. But their numbers are not very significant. If the ICC wants to grow the game in the US, then they need to involve the locals as well. They can't solely rely on the expats.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 29, 2023, 02:27:41 AM
Just noticed that ICC Men's T20 World Cup Sub Regional Asia Qualifier A is ongoing, with 4 nations participating in the tournament. Apart from Maldives, all the other countries are 100% expat based, so I don't have much interest in the matches. Winner of this tournament will join other 7 teams in regional final, from where the top-2 countries will qualify for the ICC T20I World Cup in 2024. Only the America, Asia and Africa qualifiers are remaining for the world cup in 2024. Other regional qualifiers are already complete (Europe and East Asia-Pacific).
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 29, 2023, 02:17:15 AM
No doubt in his performance. Best out of Labuschagne is taking responsibility and playing when there is continuous fall of wickets. In many matches he had contributed good and saved the team from losing the matches. When it comes to spin bowling we can't be sure that India will dominate and Australia will be down. Aston Agar is a good bowler. Look at the previous match kuldeep Yadav had the economy of 8 rpo. At times spinners used to be dominant and I'm sure weather conditions were gonna be a big trouble throughout the tournament.

Marnus Labuschagne is scoring runs, but he has been unable to convert the good starts that he got to 50s and 100s. Look at his performance during the series against India and South Africa. He has only one hundred to his name, although he made double digit scores in all the 8 matches (3 against India, 5 against South Africa). Anyway, he is a crucial player for the Australians in this world cup and if they want to lift the trophy then Marnus need to step up his game. One positive aspect is that he seems to have got adjusted to the weather and pitch conditions in India.
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