But we have to deposit twice to withdraw? :c
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Jaaawshy on twitter here. Thanks for the giveaway! I won
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Ummm i think that this is a great idea for people that want to play other casinos besides BTC ones
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I agree that the trust system is incredibly flawed.
When someone that's never done a trade or been trusted with anything can go around ruining the reputation of people that have done actual trades with other people (like my scenario) or never done a trade with me in any way just because he's gotten some BS positives from people in 'the circle', there's some big flaws.
This jerk gave me a negative trust rating that wasn't even based on anything, go look at his reasoning... He claims it's because I 'may' delete some of his comments (which I never did) and that I was paying myself some salary in my proposed investment scenario (which was never stated). He is leaving me a negative trust rating which devastates my bitcointalk account and any chance at getting investor cooperation because the first thing they are going to see is a big red negative from some guy that's unfairly judged me based on 0 factual information.
How could anyone support this guy and his actions...?
That what I bolded. That what I bolded! Exactly what I'm saying!
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Bullshit, its everyones job to keep scammers off this forum. I should not say this cause people pay me to find scammers. I have seen people lose bitcoins in the amounts that would make you shit yourself to scams. While vod may be quick to throw negative trust up, it makes scammers have to try a little harder which is great.
Yeah and it also ruins, good, trust-able people's accounts. Throwing negative feedback willynilly.
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escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48) 2014-06-18 0.00000000 Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O. Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community smooth 4: -0 / +5(5) 2014-04-25 0.00000000 Respected member of lending forum and scam buster John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120) 2014-04-18 0.00000000 The neighborhood scam-buster. KWH 1: -0 / +3(3) 2014-02-24 0.00000000 Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job! cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9) 2013-11-09 0.00000000 This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Reference Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3) 2013-08-22 0.00000000 Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community. Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed. NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETCNot one. How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it. And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out. Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you. And it's not "petty sniping" it's called being mad about something that you have the right to be mad about.
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escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48) 2014-06-18 0.00000000 Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O. Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community smooth 4: -0 / +5(5) 2014-04-25 0.00000000 Respected member of lending forum and scam buster John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120) 2014-04-18 0.00000000 The neighborhood scam-buster. KWH 1: -0 / +3(3) 2014-02-24 0.00000000 Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job! cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9) 2013-11-09 0.00000000 This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Reference Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3) 2013-08-22 0.00000000 Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community. Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed. NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETCNot one. How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it. And how are you supposed to obtain Trust? There isn't a unicorn riding fairy magically handing it out. Let me give you some free advice: All this petty sniping is doing nothing to help your Trust. In fact, it is doing just the opposite. It seems you feel entitled to more Trust for whatever reason you see fit and that makes you look petty, bitter and jealous. After both of your uncontrollable displays of anger, I would refuse ANY trading with either of you. You could um... take out/give loans, sell/buy stuff, exchange currencies. All in the forum, and earn your trust like you're supposed to. I "FEEL ENTITLED?!?!" to trust. Oh my god, unlike Vod I actually earned my trust by showing that I repay loans, don't do chargebacks, etc. Then he basically makes all that irrelevant with his trust he got from being a "patrol man". Not even doing stuff that would actually earn one trust.
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It only says Warning: Trade with extreme caution! which is true since you want to sell your account. Nothing about you being a scammer. Sorry you can't understand this. Have a better day. WHAT DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE TRUST SYSTEM CAN'T RECOGNIZE THIS. A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK IN ON SOMEONE'S TRUST, ESPECIALLY FROM YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET'S THEM LABELED A SCAMMER BY THE FORUM. So really you might as well of just written scammer on my profile. Sorry dude, but Vod is right. Selling one's account is a sleazy move that helps scammers. Since you communicated your intentions to sell your account, no one should trust your account and therefore the negative trust is appropriate. Last time I checked people also bought accounts as an investment because they plan on joining signature campaigns. Also because some people don't like the post restrictions on newbies, and it does take a few weeks to become atleast a Jr. Member. Last time I checked: selling account =/= scammer goin' take it over. Selling an account is allowed because it can't be stopped. Any accounts sold should have a warning that the account was purchased and to protect someone from potential scams. It really is that simple. I like your suggestion. Vod should take a page out of your book, and come up with new ideas like that, rather than naming himself "the mighty forum patrol man who must stop all potentially scammy situations" Not. Your. Job.
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escrow.ms 66: -0 / +48(48) 2014-06-18 0.00000000 Man, I've seriously never given you trust before o.O. Trusted Scam buster and an outstanding member of the community smooth 4: -0 / +5(5) 2014-04-25 0.00000000 Respected member of lending forum and scam buster John (John K.) 150: -1 / +120(120) 2014-04-18 0.00000000 The neighborhood scam-buster. KWH 1: -0 / +3(3) 2014-02-24 0.00000000 Helps keep the waters clean of potential scammers. Good job! cooldgamer 7: -0 / +9(9) 2013-11-09 0.00000000 This guy really is karma, always helping to weed out the scammers Tomatocage 33: -0 / +24(24) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Reference Vod has been instrumental in helping to compile a list of tell-tale signs to look for to identify would-be scammers Damnsammit 3: -0 / +3(3) 2013-08-22 0.00000000 Vod helps keep scammers at bay in the Loans subsection. Very good person for the forum and the community. Blazr 7: -0 / +5(5) 2013-07-07 0.00000000 Very trustworthy, helps prevent people from being scammed. NOT ONE POSITIVE TRUST IS FROM REPAYING A LOAN, HANDLING SOMEONE ELSES MONEY, ETCNot one. How does that in any way show that he is a trustable person? Trust system way flawed, and older members who are friends with eachother are taking advantage of it.
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Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)
100% agree, especially in this case. Vod does nothing but go around judging people and marking them negative. I'd be willing to bet that he tries to leverage his positives (which seem like they've never been given for anything that actually requires any trust) to get stuff. Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)
So, by your own logic, both of you are probably the same person? It looks like the train has left Realityville. How do you think that in any way? I know that not everyone with huge positive trust is the same person. All I'm saying is that it seems to be a club, all of Vods positive trust is from "Being a scambuster" how does have anything to do with trust? Has he handled your money? No. Did you trust him with something valuable? No. You're all just buddy-buddy with eachother. It's like the popular kids in school, really.
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It only says Warning: Trade with extreme caution! which is true since you want to sell your account. Nothing about you being a scammer. Sorry you can't understand this. Have a better day. WHAT DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE TRUST SYSTEM CAN'T RECOGNIZE THIS. A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK IN ON SOMEONE'S TRUST, ESPECIALLY FROM YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET'S THEM LABELED A SCAMMER BY THE FORUM. So really you might as well of just written scammer on my profile. Sorry dude, but Vod is right. Selling one's account is a sleazy move that helps scammers. Since you communicated your intentions to sell your account, no one should trust your account and therefore the negative trust is appropriate. Last time I checked people also bought accounts as an investment because they plan on joining signature campaigns. Also because some people don't like the post restrictions on newbies, and it does take a few weeks to become atleast a Jr. Member. Last time I checked: selling account =/= scammer goin' take it over.
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Anyone else notice too, that all of these users with the huge positive feedback are all connected through their feedback? Having positive trust seems to be more like a club now, rather than people who actually deserve it/ contribute to the community in positive ways/ give out loans and actually do business (not just criticize other's)
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Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.
Nice guess, but if I rated a single person with negative trust that didn't deserve it, the people who have trusted me would remove it. The system is self correcting. I only have the trust I do because I always do the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the positive trust you gained were from your own alt accounts. Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system. Sure, that's a canned response from 95-99% of those receiving the negative. I have plenty myself. I am 100% sure that not all of the ~300 people Vod has given trust too are people who deserve negative trust. Like I've mentioned before, either here or somewhere else. I've always felt this way, I was LITERALLY TOO SCARED to say anything and attract attention (negative seems to be the only kind he gives unless it's to one of his alt accounts) from Patrolman-Sam over there.
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Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.
That means I'm making a difference here.It takes 10 seconds to create a throw away account and post negative feedback on me - that is why it is "untrusted" feedback. People have been creating throw away accounts calling me a paedophile, incestuous, faggot, etc. Obviously I put a dent in these people's scams. You are deluded. Extremely deluded. There's plenty that say "picking on newbies", "bullying", "offering loans to newbies so he gave me negative trust" Most of your trust ratings are red. And they're from ALLLLLLLLLL sorts of members, not just "newbie/alt accounts"
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Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.
Nice guess, but if I rated a single person with negative trust that didn't deserve it, the people who have trusted me would remove it. The system is self correcting. I only have the trust I do because I always do the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the positive trust you gained were from your own alt accounts. Also, just take a look at your feedback that for some reason doesn't count against you. You have soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people accusing you of abuse of trust system.
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"trade with extreme caution"
What the fuck does that mean besides, "watch out this person scams!"
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It only says Warning: Trade with extreme caution! which is true since you want to sell your account. Nothing about you being a scammer. Sorry you can't understand this. Have a better day. WHAT DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE TRUST SYSTEM CAN'T RECOGNIZE THIS. A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK IN ON SOMEONE'S TRUST, ESPECIALLY FROM YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET'S THEM LABELED A SCAMMER BY THE FORUM. So really you might as well of just written scammer on my profile.
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I didn't think you'd have much of a response to that. Cat got your tongue? Where are you getting your facts from because it's clearly not from anything that I've stated.
Freaken Jerk off.
If you want investors, this is not wording you should be using. In fact, if you were actually seeking investors, you wouldn't be using that wording. You either are extremely naive, or a scammer that just wants to take the money and run. I don't blame him for talking that way. He has a full member account that just got rated negative for no good reason.
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So far everyone agrees that your feedback and wrong, undeserved and abusive.
You reading the same thread I am? I don't see that at all. Anyway, thank you for showing everyone how you would react should things not go the way you plan in this business. You are an immature hothead who has probably never run a company in his life. You can delete these messages now. I made a thread on you directly in the general forum, regarding your abuse of the trust system. This is what I'm referring to. Perhaps you should go read it. I did. You claim EVERYONE AGREES THAT MY FEEDBACK IS WRONG. So I'll ask again, are you reading the thread yourself? Everyone just afraid that if they get on your bad side you'll give them negative trust. Like you do to most people.
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