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1  Other / Meta / [BAN APPEAL] "Yury1" on: June 07, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
Account "Yury1" ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056566) was banned due to the fact that in the dispute, he copied and pasted the description of the title of project Advisor: " Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.". Is that a reason to permanently separate a person from the forum? I regret to see how the "bitcointalk.org" ceases to be a forum, and is transformed into an advertising service with strict censorship.
2  Other / Meta / Re: ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 11, 2019, 08:52:35 AM
Seems like no one defends you and i also have something to say about this

The rule-> "33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]"

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"

-> Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."

So in other words: This would imply to take credit as your own from someone else's work... not actually failing to put "quotes" on your pure intent of informative post or rather forgetting to link the source. To take credit and to make credit, thus to give credit; it can mean a much broader idea then its objective one.

It does not make sense to take an objective idea and transform it into subjective one, commons sense also prevails
For example, i can say "don't drink water, because you die!" Does this make sense? No, of course you don't die... But, i would prove you wrong, subjectively speaking, because it is forming my own concept of what i would say: drinking too much water in some cases can make you die (and now this is a true statement). See the difference? That's why we would need someone to defend us and our rights...

You broke the rules 2 times yourself. You quoted, but you didn't mention the source.

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"
- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plagiarism

Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645

For this, your account should be banned.

But in the case of the account  "Yury1" we are talking about the memorable expression that he used in the dialogue.
3  Other / Meta / Re: ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 11, 2019, 08:35:08 AM
The first time I see that for one similar sentence get banned account. Now we have to worry about our thoughts not being the same as someone else?
4  Other / Meta / Re: ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 11, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
Stop acting dense. Eric Duprat's title is not "General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments."
Saying something like "Eric Duprat, General Manager of Mobile at PayPal" is fine as it is clearly a title, but the latter part is clear plagiarism.
You don't come up with this marketing BS yourself, you have to copy it from somewhere. The chance of creating such a specific sentence yourself is very low.
You have a very subjective opinion.
Some things we remember exactly after reading and in their subsequent presentation, we can reproduce them with 100% accuracy. This expression is not too long to copy and it is enough to read once to remember for a long time.


That wouldn't be plagiarism because it's very short and not specific. But, if you write something like:
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For those new to the cryptocurrency world, Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of Bitcoin.
It would be plagiarism because you are directly copying posts from another source, without citing it.
For the exchange registration requirement post, you would put it in a quote or link to the source.

You gave an example of 2 sentences. And if someone writes "Satoshi Nakomoto is a famous person because he created bitcoin". Is this plagiarism? As more and more material is written about cryptocurrency, the risk of creating similar offers increases more and more.
5  Other / Meta / Re: ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 10, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
Very strange that the moderators so lightly to the participants at the forum. As I understand it, no one was able to explain the cause of the ban and the moderator didn't answer.
You are right. The moderator hasn't responded and everyone else can only guess the reason for the ban account, but there is no exact data.
6  Other / Meta / Re: ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 10, 2019, 07:09:39 AM

Um, did you miss this post?

Copy:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.

No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
7  Other / Meta / Re: ban account in Russian local on: January 09, 2019, 05:28:21 PM
I appeal to the global moderators with a request to specify the reason ban account "Yury1"  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056566
 Please, respond.
8  Other / Meta / Re: ban account in Russian local on: January 09, 2019, 04:23:53 PM
"Yury1" is an account of my friend
Stop wasting everyone's time, lock the thread, and tell your "friend" to appeal to the e-mail address provided in the ban notice.
You're wrong. This section is just intended to discuss with the moderators contentious issues.
9  Other / Meta / Re: ban account in Russian local on: January 09, 2019, 02:31:49 PM
Идeт пepeчиcлeниe ycлoвий peгиcтpaции нa биpжe. Кaк зaпoмнилиcь тpeбoвaния, тaк oни пoтoм и зaпиcaны. O кaкoм плaгиapизмe мoжeт идти peчь?

You've copied someone else's text, word for word, without quote marks and link to the source. If you don't understand what plagiarism is, then there is an explanation from the moderators.

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.



Besides you're not allowed to posting messages elsewhere on the forum but only in your ban appeal's thread otherwise it would be considered as a ban evasion.


"Yury1" remember that to register we must: ............ There is a transfer of registration conditions. It's not plagiarism. Not confuse.
If you write: " Satoshi Nakamoto is the Creator of bitcoin." It will be plagiarism for which it will be necessary to ban account? No, because it's a declaration of common knowledge. You are incompetent in this matter.

Besides you're not allowed to posting messages elsewhere on the forum but only in your ban appeal's thread otherwise it would be considered as a ban evasion.
Besides, you're wrong again. "Yury1" is an account of my friend and I where I want and I will be there to write. Because of people like you, misunderstandings arise.

I'm waiting for an official response from a moderator.
10  Other / Meta / Re: ban account in Russian local on: January 09, 2019, 12:07:26 PM
@Pmalek, see the dates carefully. Yury1 was an original poster.

But despite this, most likely that Yury1 has been banned because he has copied text without indicating the sources.


Copy:
Ha китaйcкиx биpжax oбязaтeльнa идeнтификaция пoльзoвaтeля c пpeдocтaвлeниeм дoкyмeнтa: ID - идeнтификaциoнный нoмep кoтopый имeeт кaждый китaeц, вoeнный билeт, пacпopт, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Taйвaня, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Maкao и Гoнкoнгa. Heкитaйцaм, я тaк пoнимaю, зapeгиcтpиpoвaтьcя нa китaйcкиx биpжax нe пoлyчитcя?
Original:
Пpи peгиcтpaции нa биpжe OKCoin тpeбyeтcя идeнтификaция пoльзoвaтeля c пpeдocтaвлeниeм дoкyмeнтa: ID - идeнтификaциoнный нoмep кoтopый имeeт кaждый китaeц, вoeнный билeт, пacпopт, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Taйвaня, вpeмeннoe paзpeшeниe нa въeзд в Китaй для житeлeй Maкao и Гoнкoнгa .

Идeт пepeчиcлeниe ycлoвий peгиcтpaции нa биpжe. Кaк зaпoмнилиcь тpeбoвaния, тaк oни пoтoм и зaпиcaны. O кaкoм плaгиapизмe мoжeт идти peчь? Плaгиapизм - этo кoпиpoвaниe чyжoй мыcли или идeи. A в дaннoм cлyчae пepeчиcляютcя тpeбoвaния.
 This is a listing of the conditions of registration at exchange. As remember the requirements, so they are then recorded. What kind of plagiarism can we talk about? Plagiarism is copying someone else's thoughts or ideas. But in this case, just the requirements are listed.




Copy:
Eric Duprat was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments. Eric Duprat one of the team members Monetha and send tweets about Monetha. And developers UTRUST nobody knows.
Original:
Prior to Verayo, Eric was the General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments.
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B дaннoм cлyчae yкaзывaeтcя звaниe и дoлжнocть Eric Duprat. Этo кaк "фeльдмapшaл пpyccкиx зeмeль, пoдвлacтныx aвcтpo-вeнгepcкoмy пpaвитeльcтвy". Этo звaниe и зacлyги извecтнoгo чeлoвeкa и yпoминaниe oб этoм к плaгиapизмy нe имeeт никaкoгo oтнoшeния.

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
11  Other / Meta / ban account. I appeal to the global moderators on: January 09, 2019, 07:32:33 AM
I would like to know frome global moderators reason ban account "Yury1" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056566
12  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: January 03, 2019, 05:57:38 PM

А толку от этих стейблкоинов? Это ведь аналог доллара в криптовалютном мире. Происходит подмена децентрализованной крипты стейблкоинами, цена которых стабильна. Все идет к тому, что все эти биржи спустят цену на настоящую крипту до нуля и начнут пропагандировать использование стейблкоинов как чего-то стабильного, чему можно доверять.

Мне тоже кажется, что жулики хотят монополизировать этот рынок с помощью таких бирж как Битмекс, а потом они сами же скажут, что эксперимент с биткоином не удался как это уже заявлял Артур Хейс https://cryptofeed.ru/news/eksperiment-bitkoina-prodolzhaetsya/
13  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: December 26, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
Вот в этом и будет сила сообщества, если все вместе выведем средства с бирж на кошельки. А до тех пор разрозненных оленей и будут нахлобучивать такие дельцы как Артур Хейэс, который когда хочет на свое усмотрение опускает цены в разы и потом смеется всем в лицо.
Очень точно подмечено. Пока сообщество само не позаботится о создании неудобных условий для манипуляций ценами, такие скамеры как Битмекс будут продолжать дампить рынок.
Интересно, почему SEC не обращает внимание на манипуляции с помощью Битмекс. Всем ведь очевидно, что рано или поздно эта скамина закроется и будет очень громкий скандал из-за тех, кто не успеет вывести свои монеты.
а что вообще господ не устраивает в битмексе? Заявления СЕО, которые периодически попадают в точку? Объёмы? Или просто то, что рынок посыпался и надо найти крайнего?
Ну, да. Все помнят как Хейэс высказался, что эфир должен будет упасть до 100$ и тут откуда ни возмись появляется биржа Битфорекс с анонимным учредителем на которой рисуются объемы в 50% от всего рынка торговли эфиром и начинает укатываться цена вниз с 500$ до 200$. Потом Хейэс высказывается о падении биткоина и на Битмекс рисуются объемы в 10-20 раз больше чем на других топовых биржах и цена начинает лететь вниз с 6000$ до 3000$.
Действительно, при чём здесь Битмекс и Хейэс?   Grin Он ведь просто так это сказал и обороты на бирже почти настоящие   Grin

Странно, что его еще не посадили. Хотя вполне возможно, что вскоре он станет сокамерником Винника. Этим парням будет о чем поговорить  Grin Хотя у Хейеса подходы более утонченные  Grin
14  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: December 26, 2018, 10:31:21 AM
Кто что думает по поводу вывода своих средств с бирж 3 января? В связи с этим призывом https://hello-crypto.ru/polzovatelyam-predlozhili-vyivesti-vse-bitkoinyi-s-birzh-3-yanvarya/ многие биржи могут объявить себя банкротами. Неужели это будет конец скамной бирже Битмекс?
15  Local / Трейдеры / Re: А вы стали бы брать биткоин ценой меньше 1к$ ? on: November 15, 2018, 06:16:28 PM
Я сейчас жду биток по 2000$. Думаю, недельки через 2-3 такая цена станет реальностью. Ну, а там посмотрим.
16  Local / Новички / Re: Что будет дальше с криптой? on: November 15, 2018, 06:09:36 PM
Не вижу повода для беспокойства за будущее крипты. Крипта продолжает получать все большее распространение в мире и с этим все ровно. Другое дело задаться вопросом какая в ближайшее время будет цена на крипту.
17  Local / Новички / Re: Покупать ли BTC on: November 15, 2018, 06:01:09 PM
Главный вопрос не в том, чтобы покупать или не покупать, а в том когда именно покупать. Понятное дело, что цена на биткоин со временем будет расти, но намного приятнее сделать покупку пока цена находится у дна.
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