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January 10, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
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Very strange that the moderators so lightly to the participants at the forum. As I understand it, no one was able to explain the cause of the ban and the moderator didn't answer.
You are right. The moderator hasn't responded and everyone else can only guess the reason for the ban account, but there is no exact data.
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January 10, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
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No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.

Stop acting dense. Eric Duprat's title is not "General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments."
Saying something like "Eric Duprat, General Manager of Mobile at PayPal" is fine as it is clearly a title, but the latter part is clear plagiarism.

You don't come up with this marketing BS yourself, you have to copy it from somewhere. The chance of creating such a specific sentence yourself is very low.

If you write: "Satoshi Nakamoto is the Creator of bitcoin." It will be plagiarism for which it will be necessary to ban account? No, because it's a declaration of common knowledge.

That wouldn't be plagiarism because it's very short and not specific. But, if you write something like:
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For those new to the cryptocurrency world, Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of Bitcoin.

It would be plagiarism because you are directly copying posts from another source, without citing it.
For the exchange registration requirement post, you would put it in a quote or link to the source.

If you don't like the forum's policy on plagiarism, go join a different forum.

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January 11, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
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No, it's you missed the previous post

In this case, specify the title and position of Eric Duprat. It's like " General field Marshal of the Prussian lands, subservient to the Austro-Hungarian government". This is title and achievements of a famous person and mention this to plagiarism is irrelevant.
Stop acting dense. Eric Duprat's title is not "General Manager of Mobile at PayPal where he played an instrumental role in establishing PayPal as a player in mobile payments."
Saying something like "Eric Duprat, General Manager of Mobile at PayPal" is fine as it is clearly a title, but the latter part is clear plagiarism.
You don't come up with this marketing BS yourself, you have to copy it from somewhere. The chance of creating such a specific sentence yourself is very low.
You have a very subjective opinion.
Some things we remember exactly after reading and in their subsequent presentation, we can reproduce them with 100% accuracy. This expression is not too long to copy and it is enough to read once to remember for a long time.


That wouldn't be plagiarism because it's very short and not specific. But, if you write something like:
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? For those new to the cryptocurrency world, Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of Bitcoin.
It would be plagiarism because you are directly copying posts from another source, without citing it.
For the exchange registration requirement post, you would put it in a quote or link to the source.

You gave an example of 2 sentences. And if someone writes "Satoshi Nakomoto is a famous person because he created bitcoin". Is this plagiarism? As more and more material is written about cryptocurrency, the risk of creating similar offers increases more and more.
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January 11, 2019, 08:31:28 AM
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You gave an example of 2 sentences. And if someone writes "Satoshi Nakomoto is a famous person because he created bitcoin". Is this plagiarism? As more and more material is written about cryptocurrency, the risk of creating similar offers increases more and more.

It would be possible since there are many articles regarding with the bitcoin or any topics that has been discussed here over and over again. But, it will still make a difference because we construct the sentence and paragraph in a different way. If it was being copied and paste word for word then it could be associated directly to plagiarism. But, if it is not then there could be a chance that an individual will become a plagiarist when his/her post and opinion has will has similarities with other's opinion and how it was being constructed. Yet, it would be the slightest chance that will going to happen. It would be a very rare case.

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January 11, 2019, 08:35:08 AM
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The first time I see that for one similar sentence get banned account. Now we have to worry about our thoughts not being the same as someone else?
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January 11, 2019, 08:52:35 AM
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Seems like no one defends you and i also have something to say about this

The rule-> "33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]"

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"

-> Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."

So in other words: This would imply to take credit as your own from someone else's work... not actually failing to put "quotes" on your pure intent of informative post or rather forgetting to link the source. To take credit and to make credit, thus to give credit; it can mean a much broader idea then its objective one.

It does not make sense to take an objective idea and transform it into subjective one, commons sense also prevails
For example, i can say "don't drink water, because you die!" Does this make sense? No, of course you don't die... But, i would prove you wrong, subjectively speaking, because it is forming my own concept of what i would say: drinking too much water in some cases can make you die (and now this is a true statement). See the difference? That's why we would need someone to defend us and our rights...

You broke the rules 2 times yourself. You quoted, but you didn't mention the source.

Plagiarism
"an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:"
- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plagiarism

Rule explained "33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own."
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645

For this, your account should be banned.

But in the case of the account  "Yury1" we are talking about the memorable expression that he used in the dialogue.
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