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I’m generally very supportive of all crypto projects as I believe in a more decentralized society. As a person who loves and believes in the democratizing power of BTC, I regret to say that I am not a fan of this particular project. For what it’s worth, I’m not going to impugne the motives of the project’s developer, but there are two main reasons that I’m not going to take part in this one:
1) The idea that burning 1BTC in exchange for 1 unit of this new coin holds a reasonable value proposition is lunacy on its face; and,
2) I genuinely believe that this is a solution in search of a non existent problem. BTC does not need to be replaced (obviously I don’t believe that this project could ever achieve that even if the need existed). The anti crypto / pro CBDC demagogues already erroneously cite environmental concerns as a reason to oppose crypto, and we don’t need that sort of rubbish from inside the community. Crypto, and BTC specifically, are not a threat to the environment. If people are concerned about the pollution generated by the generation of electricity, then by all means, go invent a functional and economical renewable energy source. Don’t blame BTC. As a miner, if I could operate near a hydroelectric source, or use some other renewable source of energy, I would; it would increase the profitability of my machines! The incentive already exists.
Let’s not pretend that BTC mining is a serious power consumer compared to other industries either please. The entirety of the BTC mining industry’s power consumption is a veritable drop in the ocean, never mind the proverbial bucket. As I said, solution in search of a problem.
Thank you for sharing your opinion with such class and poise. A lot of people on this forum have forgot how to disagree with someone in a productive fashion. We are all in pursuit of our own truth. Your truth does not take you down the path of Bitcoin Eco. We respect that 100%. Does not mean we disagree on everything. Both share the love for decentralization of society. We both seem to love blockchain and crypto technology. If we where to sit down for tea. We would become friends over mutual shared interest. Conversation would be effortless and we would share so many similarities in our passions. Thank you again for sharing your opinion is such a positive way and even if we disagree on certain talking points. We are all here for the promise of a better tomorrow. Even if we don’t share the same outlooks. We all subscribe to the freedom of a decentralized free society. Your account is very new but you have an amazing quality about you.. Allow us to share some merit with you. The way you disagree with such integrity is merit worthy |
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This is an amazing project. Been using the Qortal decentralized internet for about a week . It is truly amazing. Has very active development on git. The team and community are amazing. Love what you are doing. Keep it up. They have a clear path to decentralized domain hosting. The trade portal is in fact a TRUE decentralizes exchange. They have a very neat low carbon footprint “minting “ reward structure. The decentralized Q-chat is a lot of fun. The UI is elegant with a strong low power consuming core. All around great project with a bunch of much needed decentralized utilities . Currently we established a “bitcoin eco “ group on Qortal . So join us on Qortal@bitcoin eco.  |
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This is a meaningful project. Whether there is an official telegram group and Twitter, I want to know more about it and continue to pay attention.
Thank you so much for the kind words. Means so much to hear some positive feedback. We currently do not have a twitter or telegram. As a very new community we wanted to start off using decentralized communication so we went with Qortal. Currently we established a "group chat" on Qortal decentralized internet .It's a true p2p technology with no centralized control . If you prefer true privacy chat get the Qortal Core and UI here. Then you navigate to Group Management. Scroll down and find "bitcoin eco" press the join icon. Then navigate to your Q-chat and you will see the decentralized bitcoin eco community chat group . You can find more info here https://qortal.org/ |
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It took you a whole week to come up with those 479 characters? Damn, you must be really struggling out there! Been busy working . You know that thing productive decent people do? Sorry don't troll the internet looking for people and project to put down |
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 Look, another shitcoin coming out of the sewers and claiming it can out do at least 1/20 th of what the Bitcoin network has achieved so far  I bet this shitcoin won't live to see the next bull run. For fuck's sake, if you are dreaming of creating a better coin, start by using an original name for your coin. Not the nonsense of naming coin names like Bitcoin Eco, Bitcoin green, Bitcoin water or Bitcoin whatever. You really look so stupid doing such, but you don't see it anyway. Yet here you are trolling. We know we are onto something when haters take the time to spout off nonsense. If this was indeed a shitcoin you would have not taken the time to post. Your post was 92 words and 492 characters. A lot of energy for nothing right? If we are crawling from the sewer you are obviously down here sloshing around in it? Your gonna look really stupid in the not so distant future for the nasty little words you type.  |
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This back and forth between slander and insults can go on forever. The fact remains is nothing you say about Bitcoin Eco matters. Nothing we say has equal weight in its overall success of the project.. What will define Bitcoin Eco’s success is action, not words. Words are cheap actions are tangible . Bitcoin Eco will define itself on the problems it solves and the functionality it builds. Inside of it’s utility it will build it’ s value. A project cannot stand on the back of pretty words. It must be forged in the hearts of its user by use case alone . It must build that relationship. Bitcoin Eco is not a person or people but an entity unto itself. Belongs to not you nor me but everyone. It will out live us all. This is a concept that even the Bitcoin Eco core developers must keep in mind. Getting hung up on this game of words is beneath us. We would rather be measured on actions over words. Over what we do rather than what is said. Action is what we declare. Action is what you will get. |
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If you where dumb it might make it excusable. You willfully spout off ignorance. That's the game you play as a forum troll. Twisting and spinning your little narrative to somehow feel like you have won something. Bet you have an awesome social life? Bet your a real winner in the game of life? If you where winning the game of life you would not be on here seeking out these perceived victories.
You do realize that Ad hominem, if not used correctly, is a horrible way to argue and signifies a lack of valid arguments? With that being said... You're an idiot! (explanation below ...)
There is no doubt these are not burn addresses someone has the keys for the addresses  Regardless of whether they are, anyone dealing with this charlatan faces a very high risk of losing money. Some DT members should paint this joker red. Do your research before spouting off nonsense. /cut/ Why are you replying to my post? I never said it wasn't a burn address. Please learn to quote properly. In light of that, you sound like a real smartass. Funny, since you had no idea how to create a burn address just a month ago.  Does a PUBLIC Bitcoin Burn address really exist?
Out of all of Bitcoin history has one address been rendered a certifiable "Bitcoin Burn Address". An address the Bitcoin community can trust 100% that the Bitcoin sent to this address CANNOT ever be recovered . A Bitcoin address so completely unrecoverable the Bitcoin sent to this address could be considered "removed from total supply"
Hence, my conclusion - You're an idiot!Awwww look how smart you are. Arriving at your own conclusions. Everyone clap for the really smart person here. Tell them what you won today...a perceived victory . Must do wonders for your Self-esteem . This person is a winner . Come on down |
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Of course you twist everything to fit your on little narrative.
What narrative? I genuinely believe you are employing dishonest tactics and people should know what you're trying to sucker them into. Everything about this is setting off alarm bells and you only have yourself to blame for that. There is a distinct (and, in my view, likely) chance that anyone buying into your scheme, or even simply being associated with it, is going to end up losing money, damaging their reputation, or both. There's nothing " environmentally sustainable" about using electricity to secure a network which uses tokens that no one accepts as a valid payment method. Yes, Bitcoin does use a lot of electricity. But people can use it to transfer value to anywhere on earth with a reasonable chance that the recipient can later redeem those BTC in exchange for goods or services. Your token cannot effectively transfer value from one person to another because it has no network effects. It cannot be redeemed for goods or services. It won't have the same level of security. It won't have the same network governance. As such, you are literally wasting electricity by creating yet another pointless token that no one will ever use in the real world. I've seen hundreds of these vanity projects over the years, every single one of them as arrogant as you and thinking their coin offers some bold new vision. But all you really offer is some fluffy words and wishful thinking. I'm sorry, but the rest of us are forced to reside in the real world. I can't join you in your fantasy land where you believe that your coin will magically succeed where so many have failed. Bottom line, you can't create something from nothing and expect it to share all the same traits as the thing you were trying to emulate. You are asking people to make a leap of faith and destroy something that does have a known value in the vague hope they gain something that could, theoretically, one day, have value, but probably won't. You can make precisely ZERO credible guarantees to anyone that you are foisting these tokens upon that they would actually have any worth. Either you don't know that and you're simply a wide-eyed, pretentious, naive fool, or you do know it any you're deliberately attempting to mislead people. Either way, think again. And don't even get me started on that stunt you tried to pull where you were asking for the names of community leaders so that you could covertly manipulate them into endorsing this farce. That was beyond shameful. Granted, I've never seen anyone attempt that before, so if you truly are that ruthless and mendacious, perhaps you will enjoy some success after all, at the expense of those you've exploited.  I call it as I see it. You look, sound and act like scum. So I call you scum. There's no "narrative" here. Blah blah blah . Your opinion .blah blah Your 2 cents . More yada yada yada. And some blah blah Look I spend most my time writing on a forum so my opinion must be valid. Look my legendary account gives me validity. Troll Harder. Its the same old thing with you. Boring.. You used to be a little entertaining . We can buy 20 Legendary account right now. Would my opinion matter as much as yours? |
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Fitting that you see yourself as the villain of the story. Of course you twist everything to fit your on little narrative. “Leave no FUD unchallenged” Right ? That’s your claim to fame? All you do is create FUD . You don’t think people here know your little game you play? You understand your words are FUD. You go around posting your opinion and try and pass it off as TRUTH . You create nothing..You offer nothing….Your not dull witted and that somehow makes it worse. If you where dumb it might make it excusable. You willfully spout off ignorance. That's the game you play as a forum troll. Twisting and spinning your little narrative to somehow feel like you have won something. Bet you have an awesome social life? Bet your a real winner in the game of life? If you where winning the game of life you would not be on here seeking out these perceived victories.
There is no doubt these are not burn addresses someone has the keys for the addresses Regardless of whether they are, anyone dealing with this charlatan faces a very high risk of losing money. Some DT members should paint this joker red. Do your research before spouting off nonsense. The only address people send Bitcoin to for Bitcoin Eco evolution is in fact 100% a burn address 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr . We do not have the private key to this long standing burn address. If you did your diligence you would understand that. We have asked no one for NOTHING . Type in “Bitcoin burn address” 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr this address will come up at the top of the list every time. That's the ONLY address we use and will ever use to evolve Bitcoin to Bitcoin Eco Just in case your to lazy to do the diligence here are some highlights about this well documented burn address. 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVrThe first burnt Bitcoins sent to 1Counterparty was on 2014-01-02 17:43
The 1Counterparty address hold 2130.95836818 BTC valued at or around $71,251,725.55
The 1Counterparty address has NEVER had a sent or outbound transaction
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We set out to evolve Bitcoin into Bitcoin Eco.We set out to save bitcoin from itself.
It's hard to say this nicely but, you're a fucking moron! You came to the largest Bitcoin community, to a forum founded by Satoshi himself, "to save Bitcoin from itself"? Who gives you the right to decide what is best for Bitcoin? Who do you think you are? Have you done anything in this community so far? Are you one of the Bitcoin developers? A miner? Or at least a prominent stakeholder? You're some fucking nobody who abuses Bitcoin's name and brand and insults Bitcoin's legacy. And you dare to come here and tell Bitcoiners to burn their valuable coins for your own selfish reasons? How fucking stupid can you be? Your cute There is no way to say this nicely. In the wake of our presence in the Bitcoin space you are but a guppy. Out of your depth in open water. As a guppy has no understanding the migratory pasterns of whales. You have no clue what your talking about. Little guppy…. we have butterfly labs rigs older than you. Our first posts on this forum come from a time in Bitcoin history you cannot fathom. One day when people starts evolving thousands of bitcoins into Bitcoin Eco people will speculate who was behind Eco. No one will ever know for sure. Some might say the proof will be in the thousands of Bitcoins being evolved regularly. In the end it will be speculation and conjecture. After the early adopters of Bitcoin Eco start reaping the first rewards and see the fruit of their foresight. The evolution of THOUSANDS of Bitcoin. Abandoning them to the realm of Burnt and lost FOREVER Bitcoin. This will be the catalyst that sparks the ECO flame. It will be a evolution guaranteed to shine a global spotlight on Eco.You will be as wrong then as you are now. Wont hold that against you. A guppy doesn’t know .What a guppy CANNOT know. |
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As you can see by the explorer the Bitcoin Eco network is primed and ready for full community take over and full decentralized consensus. The Current difficulty is 0.03. This means even if you have the smallest amount of Bitcoin Eco you can stake and power the Bitcoin Eco Core. Then get BTCECO for your efforts. Keep in mind of the 15 day coin staking maturity period. Once you get Bitcoin Eco you must wait 15 days before they can be staked . This will bring a level of patience and stability to Bitcoin never before seen. Overall this will bring a level of maturity to the crypto space in general. A 15 day cycle will emerge and how this will be quantified towards a the broader ecosystem will certainly be interesting to see.
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As said before NO one person built Bitcoin Eco but a collective of Bitcoin enthusiast. Some have been members of this community from the very START of Bitcoin. So when you reference ME your not talking to a person but a collective of people just like you. People that LOVE bitcoin. Not for financial gain or fame or fortune .No one will ever step forward and claim “I built Bitcoin Eco”.
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Despite what you keep repeating, we have yet to see any evidence that backs up your claim. Why do you insist on referring to yourself as "we" while there ain't no team and there's only one person behind the curtain? You claim that some of the members of your so-called "collective" have been part of this community since the beginning, so if that is the case, they need to stand out and give your project credibility. Otherwise, your statements are nothing more than a mere attempt at manipulation and misrepresentation, as we have already seen countless times on this forum. We will know in time how this project will progress. Can this project deliver what is being promised on their objectives? Right now, it is too early to give conclusions on this project. And if you are in doubt, no one is obliging to send money to this project. We have the freedom to choose which project are we going to invest with. If they can't deliver what is being described on their mission, then, it will show in the very near future. If only talks and no action, we will also see. We will under promise and over deliver. We have NOT asked for and funding. We have only asked for people to send BTC to a burn address to evolve to BTCECO. We gain nothing without doing the work. We gain nothing tell we facilitate a environmentally sustainable Bitcoin value transfer through mainstream adoption to Bitcoin Eco . This was never going to be easy. We are ready for the challenging road ahead. Nothing worth having comes easy. We set out to evolve Bitcoin into Bitcoin Eco.We set out to save bitcoin from itself. We are well on our way. What comes easy won’t last, what lasts won’t come easy. There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Bitcoin and it's history has taught us what NOT to do. |
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As said before NO one person built Bitcoin Eco but a collective of Bitcoin enthusiast. Some have been members of this community from the very START of Bitcoin. So when you reference ME your not talking to a person but a collective of people just like you. People that LOVE bitcoin. Not for financial gain or fame or fortune .No one will ever step forward and claim “I built Bitcoin Eco”.
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Despite what you keep repeating, we have yet to see any evidence that backs up your claim. Why do you insist on referring to yourself as "we" while there ain't no team and there's only one person behind the curtain? You claim that some of the members of your so-called "collective" have been part of this community since the beginning, so if that is the case, they need to stand out and give your project credibility. Otherwise, your statements are nothing more than a mere attempt at manipulation and misrepresentation, as we have already seen countless times on this forum. Bitcoin Eco does not require credibility from outside sources. As Bitcoin risen from nothing to everything by its deeds alone. So shall Bitcoin Eco. We will show you the work. We will build value through utility. We WONT rely on on the credibility of others to propel Bitcoin Eco through the ranks of value systems. Best part about the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency space is your opinion of this project means little to nothing. You participate or don’t. You can troll or embrace. No matter what Bitcoin Eco wont be stifled by your biased or opinion. It will keep pushing forward tell it reaches mainstream adoption and a seat at the global table. With or without you. You can cast your suspicious shade . You can attempt to bring negativity to this thread. Guess what? Nothing you say slows down the progress. Your negativity only quickens the resolve . Your criticism only fuels our determination. Thank you seriously...Thank you |
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Beware those with ulterior motives. OP is just looking for people to legitimise their crapcoin. Pay them no attention. The intent behind creating this list has absolutely nothing to do with supporting Bitcoin. They believe if they can name-drop some respected members, people will be more likely to send BTC to their burn address in order to redeem the shitcoin they're attempting to shill. If you aren't endorsing their Bitcoin-Ego vanity project and your username is on this list, you might want to get it removed fairly promptly. This "Bitcoin-Eco" user is a truly cancerous leech: Stewardship protocol- In the event NOT enough participants are available to provide a strong decentralized CORE network for Bitcoin Eco the stewardship protocol would be implemented. The protocol distributes small about of BTCECO to long standing Bitcoin stewards. This will ensure the direction of the Bitcoin Eco project will be protected by steadfast Bitcoin community leaders that have provided the environment for Bitcoin to blossom to what we see today. These stewards will have just enough BTCECO to stake to ensure maximum decentralization of the Bitcoin Eco Core Network.
The Stewardship protocol will only be enacted in the event not enough early participants evolve BTC to BTCECO to launch the Bitcoin Eco Core network with maximum decentralization.
Stewards will be selected among the Bitcointalk community. The qualification to be a steward of the Bitcoin Eco CORE network will be determined among the Bitcoin community . Insight will be taken and final selections will be determined by a method deemed decentralized.
Translation: " No one cares about my shitcoin, so I'm just going to rope a bunch of prominent people into it without making that clear to them". “Beware those with ulterior motives.” You are correct. Look at your signature. One could say the only reason you post is to get people to see your click bait. One could say that every ounce of your Activity: 2730 is to promote your Chip mixer As always your words are but conjecture and your own salty opinion. You can be hateful all you want . The outcome remains the same. You being historically WRONG. Its never good to be on the wrong side of history. 
The candidates on this list must LOVE Bitcoin.
And also mandatory, hate every damn shitcoin that is trying to piggyback on bitcoin's name, right? Anyhow, remove my name from that list, I've seen what you're capable of and I wouldn't be surprised you edit this list tomorrow and make us look like shitcoin-eco supporters! Beware those with ulterior motives. OP is just looking for people to legitimise their crapcoin. Pay them no attention. The intent behind creating this list has absolutely nothing to do with supporting Bitcoin.
Of course he has other motives, he talks about love for Bitcoin while he says stuff like this, his 3rd post here: Bitcoin will eventually destroy itself. In a world taking extreme measures to limit carbon footprints.
How could Bitcoin ever survive such an obvious infrastructure built on wasting energy?
He always claims that he is trying to make those changes because he likes bitcoin, lol! If you like PoS that much why not switching to some crap coin that is a basic copy of BTC without PoW and cling to it. The whole topic is just to gain exposure for his "project". Funny how you reference this account as a “He”. So females have no place in Bitcoin? Females must not have the capacity to be creative? Obviously a women is not capable of having a seat at the Bitcoin table? Excuse me but your male chauvinism is showing. Unbelievable that in 2021 we still have this prejudice against women in Bitcoin. Its not just you. You never hear the word “her” anywhere on this forum.
Does anyone have resources that might have a list or collection of data on Bitcoin Talk users that could be used to determine LONG standing in the community. Any resources that could better quantify the most positively legendary figures from THIS community.
BPIP.org is the best available one for you. It is the first third-party website to scrape the forum data, after the merit system was kicked off in January 2018. I am not sure what indicators you want to use but BPIP gives you a few to choose from: Most merit, Most activity, Most trusted, Most recognized. Two other websites Thank you so much for your insight and the resources you provided. Will look into data tools to better gain variables to compile a more comprehensive list of the top 100. Thank you again. Time is precious and we thank you for yours. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Does anyone have resources that might have a list or collection of data on Bitcoin Talk users that could be used to determine LONG standing in the community. Any resources that could better quantify the most positively legendary figures from THIS community.
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Stewardship protocol... Obviously, let's just make up shit as we go. Are you worried that not enough idiots will be willing to burn valuable coins for your utterly meaningless shitcoin? I guess your 21 million "temporary premined" coins won't be burned after all? LOL! The 21 mill premine will be burnt. We however do have contingency's to launch the Bitcoin Eco Core network with or without people evolving BTC. "meaningless shitcoin" cannot wait for you to see...  We will show you. Show you what is possible. You obviously live a limited existence. To many doors have been shut in your face. You have no idea what is truly possible. As a brief reality check, everything in the universe has a limited existence. The accident of birth gives us all the same beginning and the same ending. What differs is how we choose to live our lives within those parameters. Good luck to you on your life choices. Limited experience in terms of NOT being able to breach what most assume is impossible. Our goal is not to put people down but to build EVERYONE up. Come and attack Bitcoin Eco and we will defend it viciously . As said before NO one person built Bitcoin Eco but a collective of Bitcoin enthusiast. Some have been members of this community from the very START of Bitcoin. So when you reference ME your not talking to a person but a collective of people just like you. People that LOVE bitcoin. Not for financial gain or fame or fortune .No one will ever step forward and claim “I built Bitcoin Eco”. To finish what Bitcoin started. To build upon the principles of decentralized value. Bitcoin created a energy consuming Monster that has an unnecessary carbon footprint that fuels centralization. We seen the rise of ASIC. We seen people willingly feed this monster to secure personal financial gain without ANY concern on the effect it will have on mother earth or the principles of decentralized value. Satoshi would not approve of this. This was not the VISION. What we see today with Bitcoin energy consumption and the Corporatization of Bitcoin goes against EVERYTHING Satoshi sought to defy. Sotoshi aimed to build a better system . One that at the CORE of power was the people not industrialized corporations. You NEED a corporation to compete in today's Bitcoin mining. Do you really think Satoshi stood for corporations controlling the decentralization of the Bitcoin network? Its not decentralized if the entities that power Bitcoin Cores are of the highest of centralized authority. The story of Bitcoin does NOT have to end in the fashion . Decentralization of value CAN return to the Bitcoin community and the world. The evolution away from POW and into POS will shift the power dynamic back to the people as Satoshi envisioned. It takes 5 watts to power a Bitcoin Eco Core. You will NEVER need a corporation to power the Bitcoin Eco Core. Evolve Bitcoin. Save Bitcoin. Stop accepting the reality that Bitcoin is now owned by the centralized powers and corporations. The solution's is right in front of you. Are you Satoshi enough to take it? “Good luck to you on your life choices. “ Choosing to make a positive difference in the world . Is not really a choice for some but an unavoidable constant. Thank you for the wishes of good lucky. Our choices are to take action and not to sit idle while Bitcoin is reduced to what we see today. A global power struggle of who can waste the most energy for something that can be solved with 5 watts. A single Bitcoin transaction can consume more electricity than an average U.S. household over 54.87 days up to or 1600.77 kWh or as much as 1,600,770 Watts . That is ONE Bitcoin transactions. Your life is defined by the system or how you defy the system |
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Stewardship protocol... Obviously, let's just make up shit as we go. Are you worried that not enough idiots will be willing to burn valuable coins for your utterly meaningless shitcoin? I guess your 21 million "temporary premined" coins won't be burned after all? LOL! The 21 mill premine will be burnt. We however do have contingency's to launch the Bitcoin Eco Core network with or without people evolving BTC. "meaningless shitcoin" cannot wait for you to see... We will show you. Show you what is possible. You obviously live a limited existence. To many doors have been shut in your face. You have no idea what is truly possible.
Only a fool would throw 30K a piece to a drain. What on earth mind do you have?
Perhaps nick the "temporary premined" and the BTC! Nice try! LOL
"What on earth mind do you have?" One with the sense to see the fall of Bitcoin and the Rise of something truly extraordinary. Don't taKe our word for it. Let us show you. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Stewardship protocol- In the event NOT enough participants are available to provide a strong decentralized CORE network for Bitcoin Eco the stewardship protocol would be implemented. The protocol distributes small about of BTCECO to long standing Bitcoin stewards. This will ensure the direction of the Bitcoin Eco project will be protected by steadfast Bitcoin community leaders that have provided the environment for Bitcoin to blossom to what we see today. These stewards will have just enough BTCECO to stake to ensure maximum decentralization of the Bitcoin Eco Core Network.
The Stewardship protocol will only be enacted in the event not enough early participants evolve BTC to BTCECO to launch the Bitcoin Eco Core network with maximum decentralization.
Stewards will be selected among the Bitcointalk community. The qualification to be a steward of the Bitcoin Eco CORE network will be determined among the Bitcoin community . Insight will be taken and final selections will be determined by a method deemed decentralized.
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The candidates of this list are right in front of us. Literally. This Forum has been here from the start. Why would we not consider the members here to be the most suitable candidates? The heart and soul of Bitcoin was born here. Everything else trickles from the source BitcoinTalk. The record is HERE. We just need to quantify the data
Updated:6.21.2021 - As you can see the list below is growing. We will develop other variables to classify ranking from 1-100. One variable is Date Registered. Some more to come will be Actions, Deeds , Well Spoken, Diligence , Weight of words. If you have any other ideas of how we can more accurately rank the list or other variables that should be considered please let us know.
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