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To be honest, as much as I admire the honesty admitted, the project still fails to give any assurance to any of the investors. Although investing in general do involve some risk, the business framework of this project shouts really as a scam.
There is no guarantee that any of the promised rates would come into fruition. Even if they do mention their so-called 'secret', I doubt that it will affect the general consensus of this project tagged as a scam.
Thank you for your attitude and commentary. Since our descritpion and arguments are not as valid as we thought then this project has no means of how to give assurance to our investors other than future positve responses and experiences. We agree that our page has few similarities with scam pages, however it differs from them quite a bit as well. Especially in the way we describe the risks, also the fact that we do not desire any money which is existentially important for you (money to pay the rent, money to pay the utility bill, money to pay your loans...). We try to explain that we merely created a mechanism which can be of help to many, while also providing us the benefit of being able to make the mechanism safer and more profitable. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable. As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page would explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists. And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time. So if you deem 10% or 45% absurd... it is not. We with all honesty say we play blackjack with the money. In gambling world 10% or 45% gain is rather low. But we chose these numbers (10%, 21%, 33%, 45%) because of a specific reason which is connected to the logic behind the strategy we use. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable. As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page wouldn't explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists. And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time. On the other I also understand the scepticism when it comes to investing or entrusting money into something you don't know everything about. Even more so when it is stated that your money is not guaranteed to be paid out. On the other hand there is no way in this world how to make money without risks or leap of faith. When people go to job they rely on their employer to pay them their wage. The employer has to rely on demand of anything he is offering on the market. Market in general has to rely on the economical stability that can change when pandemic breaks out or economic depression occurs. In everyday life you have to take risks in such a spectre you are even not aware of and yet you do it with no hesitation. I understand that giving money to people on the internet is somewhat different, but principle is the same. And also the minimum deposit a investment plan we offer doesn't involve huge amount of money. Some people lose money beacuse they are heavy drinkers or heavy smokers, and yet they don't mind. We offer interesting gain after rather short amount of time under very low non-zero risk. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable. As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page wouldn't explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists. And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable. As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page wouldn't explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable. |
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Its useless to try to change the minds of people who are already decided.
We will either post our results here soon or we will fail with our own money.
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We thank you for your feedback. 1 - you are in a forum where there are dozens of casino threads, why you do not create accounts in these casinos and play there and then come show your results? this way you will have a little more transparency than what you really do to earn money 2 - this minimum value is exaggerated, many ponzis offer $10 as a minimum investment value in all plans, and this minimum withdrawal value is also a very high value, you should offer a lower value something like $1 as a minimum value of withdrawal. 3 - 3 people that say they earn money honestly are hiding their faces? 1 - we have accounts in a few, where we were playing during our "beta" tests, as we are just starting the real runs (we were waiting for the simulations and edited our strategy according to them) we dont really have anything to show yet, all our test runs have busted (of course), but the minimum profit we have achieved before busting was around 300%, we were basically just winging it as we didnt have the proper probabilities and the averages from our simulator yet, that is why we have decided to offer the plans we offer. 2 - the minimum value should be around 50$ as that is the minimum we decided is worth to get the minimum profits (for us and investors), we have to spend a considerable amount of time in front of the computer per day to get to the promised profits, so we really dont want to do it for near nothing. 3 - yes that is correct, why should there be a reason to show our faces on the internet ? Its a crypto world, anynomity is one of the main points of it. |
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Only results can a bit. As soon/if we get some investors and people will see that we really do what we tell on our website maybe the opinion will change.
Since you already state that you don't actually need anyone's money, you don't have to "wait" for investors to prove that you say the truth. Besides, your strategy is working without limits, right? So better start building your reputation by proving your sayings with your own money and then ask others for their funds. as explained already, we are playing with our own money already. But that cant really be proved as we arent gonna release our own financial information. And yes we have to wait for investors, as only them being paid can prove that we are saying the truth, even if we released information about how our own investments are going, people like you wouldnt believe a word we say anyways, so its pretty pointless. There are limits and they are explained on our FAQ, its gambling so there is always gonna be a bust sooner or later. Other limits are the min and max betting limits on the websites we play. |
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We understand the opinions and are glad to see some feedback, sadly nothing we say will change the minds of already decided individuals. Only results can a bit. As soon/if we get some investors and people will see that we really do what we tell on our website maybe the opinion will change.
We thank you for your feedback.
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! And that is completely false, as we have explained in the thread above and on our faq page. Explained what exactly? That you don't need other's money but in fact you do? That you will gamble people's funds based on some strategy of yours? And what strategy is this, can you explain it? Can you guarantee that you will even do what you say? Your FAQ page doesn't prove a thing, is just some words on a page. And for you to know, we have seen through the years more than a lot of "projects" like yours, promising huge returns and blah blah blah but guess what. All ended up scam.  We dont need it yes, but its better for us because we can earn more safely with invested money pooled with our own and still get good profits. I mean would it be better if we lied like every other page here and said that we are a group of experienced investors and will do some magic on forex etc ? We think its better to just be honest about where the money will go. If we explained the strategy, we would have no reason to have a website and look for investors as people could easily use the strategy themselves. We can guarantee it by our promise and our word, but its upto individuals to decided if they believe us or not. Yes we know that almost all investment projects have scammed, we cant do anything about that. We really dont think that our profits are huge though, we know that it is more than possible to do it, we are doing it. Its not an infinite, guaranteed promised returns, as explained in our faq, but most of the invested money shouldnt be lost. |
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The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see? You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building! And that is completely false, as we have explained in the thread above and on our faq page. |
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...About the limited warning, we think that we have explained more than enough about the risks of investing in our strategy and the fact that its well explained doesnt change anything about the chances of winning or losing.
On your site, the main place is given to various forms of investment, which offer a high percentage for investment. This is what your site visitors see first and foremost. And, knowing the psychology of most people, they won't even look for a disclaimer after seeing your offer that offers them such a big profit. We could just add a popup when somebody opens the site like those adult webpages have, informing about the risks and having a hyperlink to the disclaimer section |
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Its not a guaranteed profit, we have explicitly explained that on our FAQ and Disclaimer pages.
I understand where you are coming from and i see the reason why you would choose not to trust us and tag us, that is okay.
But let me say it again, we will not use the invested amounts to payout other users, if we lose the funds, the funds are lost and investors will be notified.
You are free to think that its a scam, but thats just your subjective opinion.
About the limited warning, we think that we have explained more than enough about the risks of investing in our strategy and the fact that its well explained doesnt change anything about the chances of winning or losing.
Thank you for your opinion though, have a nice day
There is no guaranteed profit, but the loss is. here you are asking someone to invest in your gambling, are you serious? who you and your other two friends are and why anyone would believe you? I must ask if you are so confident in your skills, why you need someone else's money, why you don't gamble with your own money and keep all profit only for you? Your offer is worst than usual gambling, where people make their own decisions, and here they are waiting for your mercy whether you will report a gain or a loss. To be honest as your service name This is pure fraud, and you are just asking someone to give you money to gamble without risking your property. I am going to add you red tag, people should need to be warned. We dont exactly need the money, its just more profitable for us, the more money we have pooled together (with our own funds) the safer we can play but still gain good profits(a bit better than what we are offering). We are gambling with our own money, that is explained in our FAQ page. You might be right that it seems that its way worse than just normal gambling, the difference here is that we have a tested and working strategy inplay, which we havent really seen being applied anywhere. We understand the tags and the need to warn people from high ranking members of the forum, but we have no plan on becoming a ponzi or a fraud website. We also understand that you have absolutely no reason to trust us and we are okay with that. Thank you for your feedback |
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We are not planning on paying users out of other users money, hence no ponzi scheme. The exact nature of our strategy is explained pretty well in our FAQ section, atleast thats what we think. Its not our plan to take money and run, as that would be disadvantageous to us, due to how our way of making money is. But yes sure, a warning is never wasted in the investment world. If anybody has any question or suggestion our support email is open. support@honestinvest.netThese are just your words. No one can be 100% sure that the blackjack card game will bring the guaranteed profit that you promise your customers. This is most similar to a ponzi scheme, where the income of early investors is paid out of the money of those who joined later. And in the end, these latter will lose their money when the influx of new investors stops. For this reason, I am leaving you a negative tag to warn forum members about your scam and save their money. Your limited liability warning, on the contrary, increases the chances of losing money. Its not a guaranteed profit, we have explicitly explained that on our FAQ and Disclaimer pages. I understand where you are coming from and i see the reason why you would choose not to trust us and tag us, that is okay. But let me say it again, we will not use the invested amounts to payout other users, if we lose the funds, the funds are lost and investors will be notified. You are free to think that its a scam, but thats just your subjective opinion. About the limited warning, we think that we have explained more than enough about the risks of investing in our strategy and the fact that its well explained doesnt change anything about the chances of winning or losing. Thank you for your opinion though, have a nice day |
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I think the problem stems from offering a minimum withdrawal of BTCs for your offers with promises of ROIs in return. I find it very confusing that you offer these packages but you added on your disclaimer that there is that CHANCE of losing your money in the investment. I mean, what is the point of this? The ROIs that you posted looks promising and eye-catching but with that added risk, it completely eliminates its purpose. I think i understand what you mean, let me try to explain First with the minimum withdrawal amount, the 0.0016 BTC is meant to be as the minimum investment amount in any plan +10% (the lowest return), but we have lowered it from 0.00165 to 0.0016 btc We offer these packages because we are confident, that it can be made without any problem a lot of times, as its already tested and tried, but as explained on our FAQ and Disclaimer pages, its still gambling in the end. So to avoid any future arguments and problems for both sides, we wanted to make sure, that everybody who comes on our site knows what the odds are and what the risks are too. Of course we could have just left the profits there and leave out any disclaimer, but that would be scammy in our eyes. |
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We are not planning on paying users out of other users money, hence no ponzi scheme. The exact nature of our strategy is explained pretty well in our FAQ section, atleast thats what we think. Its not our plan to take money and run, as that would be disadvantageous to us, due to how our way of making money is. But yes sure, a warning is never wasted in the investment world. If anybody has any question or suggestion our support email is open. support@honestinvest.net |
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Honestinvest.net aims to become one of the most trusted and worthwhile investment platforms on the web. We offer 4 plans :
Weekly - 10% profit after 7 days, paid once to your account balance
Bi-Weekly - 22% profit after 14 days, paid twice (once a week) to your account balance
Tri-Weekly - 33% profit after 21 days, paid thrice (once a week) to your account balance
Monthly - 45% profit after 30 days, paid once to your account balance
You can deposit via ETH, LTC and BTC
Minimum deposit amount is 0.001 BTC, 0.22 LTC or 0.015 ETH
Minimum investment amount in any of our 4 plans is 0.0015 BTC
Minimum withdraw amount is 0.0005 BTC, which will be converted to the same amount of ETH or LTC if you decide to withdraw in those currencies. Right now we recommend going with the Weekly plan, as that is the one we are most confident in. You can read more about us and our way of making money on our FAQ page on Honestinvest.netAll your answers should be answered in our FAQ PAGEIf you dont find an answer to your question, feel free to ask us below in the comments. We also offer a 5% commision for the first deposit your refferal makes. If you have any questions feel free to email us at support@honestinvest.netWe are here for the long-term, Honestinvest.net
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