Honestinvest.net || Completely honest investments! || 10% week/45% monthly

[Honestinvest.net]

Feel free to have a look at the warning about us being a ponzi scheme and the reason why there is a negative rating on our profile below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345269.0

The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see?
You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building!

Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable.

As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page wouldn't explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists.

And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time.

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[Honestinvest.net]

Feel free to have a look at the warning about us being a ponzi scheme and the reason why there is a negative rating on our profile below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345269.0

The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see?
You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building!

Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable.

As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page wouldn't explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists.

And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time.

On the other I also understand the scepticism when it comes to investing or entrusting money into something you don't know everything about. Even more so when it is stated that your money is not guaranteed to be paid out. On the other hand there is no way in this world how to make money without risks or leap of faith. When people go to job they rely on their employer to pay them their wage. The employer has to rely on demand of anything he is offering on the market. Market in general has to rely on the economical stability that can change when pandemic breaks out or economic depression occurs. In everyday life you have to take risks in such a spectre you are even not aware of and yet you do it with no hesitation. I understand that giving money to people on the internet is somewhat different, but principle is the same. And also the minimum deposit a investment plan we offer doesn't involve huge amount of money. Some people lose money beacuse they are heavy drinkers or heavy smokers, and yet they don't mind. We offer interesting gain after rather short amount of time under very low non-zero risk.

[Honestinvest.net]

Feel free to have a look at the warning about us being a ponzi scheme and the reason why there is a negative rating on our profile below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345269.0

The reason is simple and pretty obvious. You running a Ponzi scheme which by definition is fraud/ scam. What else to see?
You offer weekly returns of 10% and monthly of 45%, totally absurd interest without any clue of what you will do for getting this percentage. We all know though that you don't do a single thing, just waiting to get as much as you can, and then... puff, Elvis just left the building!

Hello! I am one of the 3 people who run honestinvest.net, my friend told me about some of the arguments, which were stated here. I am here to try to explain, who we are, what are we doing and why are the returns we offer not so unreasonable.

As my friend mentioned, we are a group of 3 people who offer investment opportunities. We try to work and disclose as much information as we can about how we make the promised returns, what are the risks and so on... As stated before we play blackjack with the invested money, I can not disclose much about how we play since it really could be done by anyone, but it greatly involves the logic of choice whether you pick the card or stay. We are well aware of how Ponzi scheme works and this may sound as cliché, but no Ponzi scheme based page would explicitly state, that we are not able to pay the money if it is lost, as we are not using money from one investor to insure money of the other one. In other words no scam page would have so many disclaimers, because in order for scam to work, you have to promise people that they risk nothing and the gain certain, you have to make the page appealing and perfect. We do not do that. We try to explain that there are risks. Our playing strategy is not foolproof and as my friend stated before the beta tests were ran in order to find out, what kind of risk is to be taken in order to get appropriate gain and if such ratio between risk/gain/used capital/invested time even exists.

And the results we achieved were satisfying. The playing strategy we devised through personal experiences, the said simulator and mathematical assumptions that were taken and consequently confirmed or confuted all resulted in this: we claim that we have a mechanism, which allows to make up to 45% of given money under reasonable risk and invested time.

So if you deem 10% or 45% absurd... it is not. We with all honesty say we play blackjack with the money. In gambling world 10% or 45% gain is rather low. But we chose these numbers (10%, 21%, 33%, 45%) because of a specific reason which is connected to the logic behind the strategy we use.

[Honestinvest.net]

To be honest, as much as I admire the honesty admitted, the project still fails to give any assurance to any of the investors. Although investing in general do involve some risk, the business framework of this project shouts really as a scam.

There is no guarantee that any of the promised rates would come into fruition. Even if they do mention their so-called 'secret', I doubt that it will affect the general consensus of this project tagged as a scam.

Thank you for your attitude and commentary. Since our descritpion and arguments are not as valid as we thought then this project has no means of how to give assurance to our investors other than future positve responses and experiences. We agree that our page has few similarities with scam pages, however it differs from them quite a bit as well. Especially in the way we describe the risks, also the fact that we do not desire any money which is existentially important for you (money to pay the rent, money to pay the utility bill, money to pay your loans...). We try to explain that we merely created a mechanism which can be of help to many, while also providing us the benefit of being able to make the mechanism safer and more profitable.

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from what I see you are trying hard to convince people that your project is not ponzi/scam although you use nice words it would be more advantageous if you showed proof. for example:

you could create accounts on the sites that are here on this forum and then you could be posting proofs in the threads of the sites on this forum that you created an account, this would make everyone see your good results and you would gain some reputation later so that people would feel more safe to invest in your project you would use escrow from this forum

I think this would have been the best way for projects of this nature to be legitimate and safe

[jonte]

"Honest"Invest that's classic... If you could reliably make over 45% per month, you'd be a certified investing genius. You'd be marched up and down the streets while everybody cheered you on. Everything is pointing towards a good old fashioned ponzi scheme here.

What proof do you provide investors of your returns?

Oh and nice script too https://codecanyon.net/item/investorm-advanced-hyip-investment-management-platform/32431844

[condoras]

"Honest"Invest that's classic... If you could reliably make over 45% per month, you'd be a certified investing genius. You'd be marched up and down the streets while everybody cheered you on. Everything is pointing towards a good old fashioned ponzi scheme here.

What proof do you provide investors of your returns?

Oh and nice script too https://codecanyon.net/item/investorm-advanced-hyip-investment-management-platform/32431844

The last time that OPie here was active was 17 August 2021. So either his method work out and make him rich (lol) or he couldn't find what he was looking for which was ignorant people. Unfortunately for him, these days people know that these investments are just a Ponzi scheme or a donation to some gambler.