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821  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: MINING ALTCOIN DI SMARTPHONE on: October 23, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
Dulu bisa menggunakan HP samsung untuk mining namun tidak hanya 1 namun beratus buah.
Yes, modalnya memang tidak sedikit. Namun itu sekitar 2-4 tahun yang lalu.

Yang perlu kita ingat adalah setiap tahun difficulty semakin meningkat arti nya semakin tinggi pula spesifikasi yang diperlukan untuk mining dan menurut saya untuk mining menggunakan HP bukanlah hal yang menguntungkan !
822  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: bitcoin legal or not on: October 23, 2018, 03:54:18 PM
In each country, it has its own policies, especially in finance, and bitcoin is one of the pros and cons in each country, anonymous ownership makes the government lose track of it, but this makes many countries that do not bother, so in this case the government do not prohibit and also do not allow. All risks in bitcoin are left to the holder.

My government against crypto but I'm still able to use it with my own risk so it means that if I got scam because of bitcoin, my police can't help me because there is no regulation for it.

Personally, I believe bitcoin in legal way because it's just like gold , an asset for future investment !
823  Economy / Services / Re: [SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] ETHERMIUM - SENIOR - [CFNP] on: October 23, 2018, 03:37:12 PM
@izanagi,

My name is green in the spreadsheet but it is not in the sheet of week 2 and I have not received the payment so far. Will I continue to participate in the campaign?

Thank you.

Oops, I miss it, will do the payment as soon as possible.
824  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: In this trading battle which side are you? on: October 22, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
I'm an investor and it should be done in that way because if you do day trading on crypto, you will experience major stress just like my friend , losses about $ 5000 and got depressed !
I have proven myself about crypto especially bitcoin that I can made about more than 1000% profit in 4 years just by Holding !
825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Real Estate on: October 22, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
Every investment have their own advantage and disadvantage;

Bitcoin
  • Advantage : Earn quick profit , can be use for global /daily transactio like fiat
  • Disadvantage : volatile, risky investment type

Real Estate
  • Advantage : The most secure investment type
  • Disadvantage :Not liquid, you need to wait if you want to earn "profit"

So it's depend on you whenever do you want to choose that based on your investment need
826  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ASK] Hold Atau Tukar on: October 21, 2018, 06:01:38 PM
Selama anda masih percaya  maka itu akan terjadi. Ingat ETH itu tidak langsung ada dan begitu dia menguasai market, semua orang menduga, inilah investasi yang layak untuk diperjuangkan.
Crypto trading memang hal penuh ketidakpastian namun saya pribadi tetap percaya dengan HOLD btc and ETH , saya akan mendapatkan profit di tahun 2020 !
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with normal games on: October 21, 2018, 04:18:01 PM
Usually it's informal kind of gambling type that usually being held by community,college,etc
IMO, these kind for gambling type have less demand so it's unpopular gambling type that want to be include on bitcoin gambling site.

But if we talk about E-sport, they have a chance for example clash royale or clash of clan war competition that reward in BTC
828  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Chinese man jailed for 3.5 years after stealing electricity to mine bitcoin on: October 21, 2018, 02:48:56 PM
When there is a new job that profitable, human will do anything to achieve it between legal or illegal way.
Crypto mining is new job in this digital era so it's reasonable to happen because as I know that mining require massive amount of electricity.

one of my neighbours told me a story of his brother getting caught stealing energy from the grid
he was mining Etherium and directly wired to the grid, so when he was caught he had to pay around 9.800$ fine
no jail sentence though, but the guy is very very behind on his ROI now  Cheesy
as for the sentence being hars in China, come on if he managed to disrupt train operations and people died
it is not as far fetched as you would think , unexpected powerdraw and vouala - an accident

That's huge, before crypto mining, my people also stole electricity so they can pay their bill with cheap.
829  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which coin best for holding on: October 20, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
For long term still my favorite , bitcoin and ETH optional investment.
Also remember that Doge still alive until now so it can be your option too. Yes, it's too many to choose because crypto are unpredictable things so it's risky to choose the correct on.

My current coin for investment is TEN , you can expect the uptrend on Dec 2018 !
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: High fees on some exchange! on: October 20, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
Luckily my local forum did not charge or change their transaction fee over 4 years.
I'm pretty sure that every country have their local exchange,right ?

Usually higher cost of fee because it's international exchange so maybe they need to adjust their cost operation world wide !
831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: goodbye fiat and USD. on: October 20, 2018, 04:08:30 PM
IMO, the fact is it will never happen because crypto and fiat are completely different platform of transaction.

Crypto is an asset just like gold etc meanwhile fiat is legalized transaction so if the government want to legalized crypto as fiat, I'm sure they need to make new regulation and the process is complex because crypto security still flaw and the value still volatile !
832  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Coin/Altcoin bagus buat Long Term 2018 on: October 19, 2018, 05:27:07 PM
Tentu saja bitcoin menjadi pilihan saya untuk long term investment karena itu benar benar terbukti pada saya selama 4 tahun sampai sekarang.
Untuk coin alternatif lain nya , ETH bisa menjadi pilihan.

Kenapa ?
4 tahun yang lalu , ETH belum ada dan sekarang dia mampu menggeser dan menyaingi popularitas LTC !
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost $350k / 54 BTC gambling, need help :( on: October 19, 2018, 04:14:03 PM
Bitcoin world are riskier than ordinary gambling like vegas so it's normal and you must aware for this.
I know that gambling able to make you rich but cryptocurrency gambling can't make you as rich as Dan Bilzerian !

So before it's too late, you need find another way to multiple your bits ( For example : I'm invest on other platform with the profit that I got from crypto )
834  Economy / Services / Re: [SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] ETHERMIUM - SENIOR - [CFNP] on: October 19, 2018, 03:33:00 PM
Payment has been made for who qualified
b5fd93bdb0da6ef4e860e7b2da0e219b0bacd28b80b3db2951260a1b2d978db8

Unfortunately some of you will not able to continue since the owner decide to cut down into half for next week.

So on google spreadsheet for who mark in green are qualified for the week 2.
And for who are in orange mark, thanks for being apart on the campaign.
Will let you know if there are some spot open in the future.



835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Acceptance. on: October 18, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
IMO yes it is but if you want to being legalize by government, it's only the way,right ?
Remember , by being legalize, your government also support cryptocurrency and the impact that we are expect , yes it's the uptrend world wide.

Don't you want to experience it when you've hold your btc since $299 / btc ?
I'm sorry if it's not you but me  Wink
836  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pegadaian Kripto on: October 18, 2018, 04:46:31 PM
Segala sesuatu yang memang ada resiko nya apalagi hal yang baru.
Menurut saya sih kalau memang ingin pinjam uang , forum ini sudah ada member tepercaya jika ingin meminjam dengan syarat adanya jaminan.

Namun tidak menutup kemungkinan platform tersebut benar - benar legit jadi satu satu nya cara dengan mencoba nya sendiri dengan nominal yang sedikit sebagai pemulaan.
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody knows why there was this big pump today on: October 17, 2018, 05:15:02 PM
IMO, tether Pump's effect especially on whale trader on bitfinex seems pessimistic about the global value.

As long as it's not keep happening, you shall worry less but if you want to make the profit , just sell order on preferred value just like I did on my local exchange

People are running away from tether and buying some other things with it.

So, the reason of pump is tether dump.

Bitfinex people really affect the global market ( From tele group )
838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency requires small spaces for discussion on: October 17, 2018, 03:54:54 PM
Yes, crypto is something new and IMO, it's require some time to learn it especially for new people.
But generally , it isn't difficult to understand, as long as they able to use internet and a little knowledge about digital transaction such as Ali Pay.

I've told about 20 of my friend and they understand quickly without too much effort of explanation !
839  Economy / Services / Re: BITCLOAK BITCOIN MIXER [SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] [CFNP][Merit ++] on: October 17, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
Payment for :
16 Oct 44d1e8904e40fb58a474cf58b46118c55137904242bd47cd0d54f2654c857a75
17 Oct f2d9cd0c7b070b5049b1e34bb8c756a96d9ce80df63a3eee7d83465b1e72cbba

The campaign is officially finish, thanks for being apart , guys
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better in poker: bluffing or playing only with good cards? on: October 16, 2018, 05:14:04 PM
That's why people can entitled a millionaire by bluffing on poker match.
Why ?
Eventhough if you have poor card, you can still win.

Let's see the real man, Dan Bilzerian that succesfully entitled a millionaire from Poker
And yes, it's become the advantage if you can do it both !
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