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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: February 18, 2022, 02:49:12 AM
Roobet, why do you offer all kinds of NCAA basketball games in livebetting but not a single NBA game live?
2  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: February 10, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Noch 2 Fragen dazu:

1) Also, Staking Rewards sind immer zu versteuern (als Einkommen), und sind auch nicht Steuerfrei wann mann 10 Jahre die Staking Rewards nicht auszahlt?

2) "Nur einmalig bei Erhalt versteuern"....aber die meiste Staking plaforms/exchanges zahlen die Staking Rewards wochtentlich oder 2 mal pro Woche aus.
Meinst du denn das "Erhalt" heisst das Moment von Auszahlung auf Fiat, oder?

1.) Ja und Ja.

2.) Nein. Das nennt sich Zuflussprinzip. Also in dem Moment, wenn du darauf zugreifen und frei darüber verfügen kannst, dann sind sie zu dem entsprechenden Kurs zu versteueren. Auszahlung in Fiat ist dabei egal.
Beispiel 1: Du stakest WAVES*. Jeden Tag erhälst du um 10:10 Uhr deine Rewards auf dein Wallet. Um 10:10Uhr ist der Kurs bei 15€. Dann musst du 15€ x Höhe der Rewards versteuern. Am nächsten Tag ist der Kurs bei 18€. Dann 18€ x Höhe der Rewards usw.
Beispiel 2: Du stakest KOMODO. Jeden Tag um 10:10 Uhr werden deine Rewards gutgeschrieben. Solange du sie nicht aktiv claimst (auf einen Button klickst), passiert gar nichts. Nach 185 Tagen klickst du auf den Button und dann werden alle 185 Tage auf dein Wallet "ausbezahlt". Dieser 185. Tag ist dann der Tag des Zuflusses. Die Summe aus Höhe der Rewards x Kurs zu dem Zeitpunkt ist dann zu versteuern.

Freibetrag bis 256€.

*Bei WAVES heißt das LPOS.

Also, Staking bringt sehr viel Buchhaltlige Arbeit mit sich mit Sad
Ich weiss eigentlich nicht ob es sich dann noch fur mich lohnt.
Vielleicht Komodo Staking Methode nutzen und nur nach mehrere Jahre die Rewards claimen (ist dies uberhaupt moglich und bringt das kein Risiko zum Verlust mit?).....verstehe ich es richtig dass ich dann die erste Jahre gar nichts daruber auf die Einkommensteuer erklaren muss?
3  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: February 08, 2022, 02:19:58 PM
Also, wann ich jetzt Cardano stake und 10 Jahre warte (auch die Staking rewards immer auf meinem Wallet stehen lass) dann ist eine eventuelle Wertzunahme von die Cardano coins sowieso Steuerfrei, und die Staking Rewards sind auch Steuerfrei, oder nicht?

Jein. Du solltest dann jedenfalls auf der sicheren Seite sein. Aber wie gesagt, bisher ist das mit der Erhöhung auf 10 Jahre noch nicht klar.
Staking Rewards muss du nur einmalig bei Erhalt versteuern. Dann nicht mehr. So habe ich das bisher gemacht und das FA war zufrieden. Andere sagen was anderes.

Und Beispiel 2: ich habe 10.000 ADA (Cardano) und stake nur die halfte. Dann bleibt fur die erste 5.000 ADA die Steurfreie haltfrist auf 1 Jahr, und fur die weitere 5.000 ADA 10 Jahre?

Wenn du davon ausgehst, dass die 10 Jahre kommen, dann wäre das eine Möglichkeit. Am besten beide Anteile auf 2 Adressen verteilen. Damit ist der Nachweis einfacher.




Noch 2 Fragen dazu:

1) Also, Staking Rewards sind immer zu versteuern (als Einkommen), und sind auch nicht Steuerfrei wann mann 10 Jahre die Staking Rewards nicht auszahlt?

2) "Nur einmalig bei Erhalt versteuern"....aber die meiste Staking plaforms/exchanges zahlen die Staking Rewards wochtentlich oder 2 mal pro Woche aus.
Meinst du denn das "Erhalt" heisst das Moment von Auszahlung auf Fiat, oder?
4  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: February 06, 2022, 05:48:16 AM
Leute, eine Frage:

Ich habe Bitcoins, XRP, Ethereum, Cardano und Polkadot. Wann ich nur Cardano und Polkadot mit Staking beteilige, dann bleibt die Steuerfreie Haltefrist fur Bitcoin, XRP und Ethereum immer noch 1 Jahr? Nur fur Cardano und Polkadot bekommt dies 10 Jahre? Stimmt das?
Und sind die Staking rewards Steuerfrei wann ich sie nicht auszahle und auch die ganze 10 Jahre behalte?

Also bisher steht das mit der Verlängerung auf 10 Jahre ja noch nicht fest. Aber wenn, gilt das sicherlich nur für den Coin/Token.

Generell müssen die Staking Rewards nach dem Zuflussprinzip dann versteuert werden, sobald die wirtschaftliche Verfügungsmacht gegeben ist.

Also, wann ich jetzt Cardano stake und 10 Jahre warte (auch die Staking rewards immer auf meinem Wallet stehen lass) dann ist eine eventuelle Wertzunahme von die Cardano coins sowieso Steuerfrei, und die Staking Rewards sind auch Steuerfrei, oder nicht?
Und Beispiel 2: ich habe 10.000 ADA (Cardano) und stake nur die halfte. Dann bleibt fur die erste 5.000 ADA die Steurfreie haltfrist auf 1 Jahr, und fur die weitere 5.000 ADA 10 Jahre?
5  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: February 04, 2022, 10:27:42 AM
Leute, eine Frage:

Ich habe Bitcoins, XRP, Ethereum, Cardano und Polkadot. Wann ich nur Cardano und Polkadot mit Staking beteilige, dann bleibt die Steuerfreie Haltefrist fur Bitcoin, XRP und Ethereum immer noch 1 Jahr? Nur fur Cardano und Polkadot bekommt dies 10 Jahre? Stimmt das?
Und sind die Staking rewards Steuerfrei wann ich sie nicht auszahle und auch die ganze 10 Jahre behalte?
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: January 28, 2022, 02:48:21 AM
Hello Roobet

Wanted to try out your sportsbook but there is no NBA to be found anywhere? Not in pre-match betting and not in livebetting?
Why are you offering all kinds of basketball leagues but not the most famous and popular one in the world? Very strange....
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: NITROGEN SPORTS | Over $14K in BTC Prizes on Nitro's Holiday Spectacle 🎅💰 on: December 26, 2021, 05:43:45 PM


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Create an account on Nitrogen Sports.


You asked for my ID 7 days ago, I gave it to you and then after that I don't hear anything back from you and you even ignore my post here and go on posting promos like nothing happened?

Why did you ask for my ID and what are you going to do with it?

Give them some time to deal with the information and the situation. I think the site also has KYC procedures, which can take some time. All you can do is wait patiently. I am confident it will be resolved satisfactorily. OP may also be able to shed some light on this issue. As long as you haven't violated any terms, don't worry to much about it.

ya.ya.yo!



It's not about verification or KYC. I wasn't talking about government ID, I was talking bout account ID.
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: NITROGEN SPORTS | Over $14K in BTC Prizes on Nitro's Holiday Spectacle 🎅💰 on: December 26, 2021, 03:02:49 PM


Back at it with more football in less than 12 hours!

Create an account on Nitrogen Sports.


You asked for my ID 7 days ago, I gave it to you and then after that I don't hear anything back from you and you even ignore my post here and go on posting promos like nothing happened?

Why did you ask for my ID and what are you going to do with it?
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: NITROGEN SPORTS |🏈 Exclusive Rebates on NFL Bets All Season Long 🏈 on: December 22, 2021, 06:47:38 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377164.0

See here my complaint about what happened to me tonight on Nitrogensports.....I invite you to defend yourself in there Nitrogensports. See if you have any decency.

Hi JKloppo. Thanks for reaching out. Can you PM us your Nitro ID?

Thank you.
-Kevin

Done

Thanks for forwarding your Nitro ID with us. I am in contact with our support team regarding your concern.

-Kevin

It has now been 3 days since I gave you my ID.....will I still hear from you?
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: NITROGEN SPORTS |🏈 Exclusive Rebates on NFL Bets All Season Long 🏈 on: December 19, 2021, 09:48:59 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377164.0

See here my complaint about what happened to me tonight on Nitrogensports.....I invite you to defend yourself in there Nitrogensports. See if you have any decency.

Hi JKloppo. Thanks for reaching out. Can you PM us your Nitro ID?

Thank you.
-Kevin

Done
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nitrogensports.eu rediculous behaviour on: December 17, 2021, 03:25:00 AM
Just got their final reply....they will NOT be paying out my bet at intended odds and will also NOT credit back the stake of my cover-up bet at half time.

So despite thinking I had a winning bet, I ended up with an overall loss.

Stay far away from Nitrogensports!
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: NITROGEN SPORTS |🏈 Exclusive Rebates on NFL Bets All Season Long 🏈 on: December 16, 2021, 05:06:45 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377164.0

See here my complaint about what happened to me tonight on Nitrogensports.....I invite you to defend yourself in there Nitrogensports. See if you have any decency.
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Nitrogensports.eu rediculous behaviour on: December 16, 2021, 04:55:57 AM
Hello,

I have been betting at Nitrogensports.eu for a month or two and didn't have any problems, until tonight, when something completely unfair happened which still baffles my mind.

I was watching the NBA game Philadelphia-Miami. During the first time-out Miami was leading 11-9 and I liked a gamble on Miami at odds of 4.15. I knew they were missing several key players but still like a gamble on them, but this is the reason why the odds were so high. Those odds were slightly above the market average but surely not out of range. For example I saw Betcris had 3,80, Pinnacle had 3,90, Betfair had 4,00 and Betonline.ag had 4.20. So Nitrogensports were among the highest, but not even the highest of all bookmakers. I would have normally placed the bet at Betonline.ag but I just had no more funds in there as I had spent it on other pending bets already.
So I placed the bet at Nitrogensports.eu at 4.15 odds with 38.5 mbtc stake. The game went well for me and Miami extended their lead. At the break the lead was 58-49.
At this time I decided to cover up my bet a little cause I wanted to spread the risk a bit. I bet 36.6 mbtc on Philadelphia @ 2,05 odds so that I would have covered my stake in case Philadelphia would still win.
Then, after the break Miami played even better and soon took a 23-point lead, somewhere around the end of the 3rd quarter. The bet was basically won for 99% at that point. But then to my massive surprise and horror I suddenly saw my balance increasing. Then I checked my bets and the bet on Miami had been settled at odds of 1.00....it was void! Right at the moment when it was a sure winner.
I received a message that the bet was void because a technical error occured and odds were not updated for a couple minutes. This is something I had no idea about since I just looked at the odds during the time-out and was not monitoring the odds in the minutes before that. Despite the fact that I find this hard to believe as the odds were really in line with other bookmakers as I explained above, they later stated the actual intended odds were 2.90.
Instead of immediately voiding they let my bet stand until it was a 99% sure winner (at that point odds on Miami were 1.01). They had fixed their error already a long time before the void as they were already offering odds on the event. I have a strong feeling they waited until the bet would be a winner and would not have void if the bet lost.
Apart from that, the fairer solution would be to settle the bet at odds 2.90.
And to make it even worse, they did not void the cover up bet I placed on Philadelphia at halftime. So now instead of a nice win, I ended up with a void and loss.

Absolutely unacceptable behaviour and I want Nitrogensports to explain themselves about this. How the hell do you think this is fair business?

I feel like I am robbed here and immediately withdrew all my remaining balance and will never play at Nitrogensports again unless this gets solved in a fair manner.

So if they do not offer a suitable solution, I advice everyone to stay away from Nitrogensports as they void odds that look totally normal and nobody could have know they were not intended to be offered. This could happen to ANYONE and with Nitrogen they have zero courtesy or sympahty. All they do is copy/paste some stupid rules like a machine.
With other crypto books such as Sportsbet and Betcoin they at least have some human eye and offer some solution in a case like this.

Complaints:
- making the customer pay for the error of the company
- waiting until the end of the 3rd quarter to void when the supposed technical error was made about 40 mins before that
- not wanting to settle the bet at the intended odds
- not wanting to credit back the stake of the cover-up bet which now lost, when it's absolutely clear I would not have placed that bet if the bet was void earlier
- only giving me standard replies with some copy paste of rules, with no eye for the human aspect

In my opinion rules for voids are ONLY suitable when there is a clear error made. In this case the odds were not visible wrong and therefore the people betting on this line were not in the wrong. This should play a role in the decision to void or not. Voids should only be the case when an obvious error has been made (such as reversing odds or having the comma wrong in the odds i.e. offering odds of 11.0 instead of 1.10 etc) and the customers are clearly trying to take advantage of it.

Oh and btw: I later heard from someone else that Betonline.ag were not childish about it and paid out on their 4.20 odds. They use the same odds supplier as Nitrogensports (but with a slightly better margin) and are a much more mature sportsbook at least. Also another proof that this void is not just the decision of the odds provider, but definitely also a decision of Nitrogensports themselves.
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 20, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
Hello FortuneJack,

Why are your NBA odds so low? I see you offer odds based on a 1,85/1,85 margin, both pre-match and live. This is way worse than the average bookmaker.

Why did you choose to offer your customers such low value on your NBA odds? Any chance you can increase the odds soon?
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐Betcoin.ag-NFL Handicapper Battle-.5 BTC in Prizes-Best BTC,ETH,LTC,XMR Casino⭐ on: September 23, 2021, 05:57:49 PM
Hello, limits are based on various factors including market size, maximum market liability and player skill level. We review limits and the way they are affected by these risk factors often. If you believe you received a limit in error, please provide us the information on the attempted wager, including match, market and amount you attempted. We will continue to discuss and review these on a regular basis and please feel free to reach out any time to check on this.

We know, but I was talking about the general system limits which you claimed you were in the process of increasing. You said your odds provider had problems adjusting to your new currency system, right? Is that process completed now or still not?
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐Betcoin.ag-NFL Handicapper Battle-.5 BTC in Prizes-Best BTC,ETH,LTC,XMR Casino⭐ on: September 23, 2021, 01:52:16 AM
Did you finish the process of limits increasing by now?
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: September 21, 2021, 05:54:06 PM
JKloppo, I'd like to send you a private message about your prev. post, but your profile doesn't allow pm-s. Could you please change it?
Thanks! Smiley

Done but please don't spam me with advertisements or referrals
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: September 20, 2021, 10:34:04 PM
Should be an easy win for Barca, maybe even a handicap bet is a good idea.
It didn't start great for Barcelona, they are losing in half time with one goal difference, and it's just not the same team without Messi this year.

Can some of you guys please suggest me one single prediction pick for tomorrow in Seria A or La Liga?



Take Getafe-Atletico Under 1,5 goals. Two very defensive minded teams. Looks like a sure 0-1/0-0.
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: September 20, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
Hello

I have enjoyed gambling at Sportsbet up until just now. Good website, nice quick navigation, quick crediting of deposits and withdrawals, lots of games on offer and good odds. Really, everything top notch and I was a really satisfied customer planning to stay for years to come.
But what just happened to me couple hours ago spoiled it all for me to be honest.
Was betting live on MLB on the game Oakland-LA Angels. I had a bet of 50 mbtc on Oakland -1,5 handicap @ 1,70 still pending from an hour earlier but because Angels came back to make it 2-2 it went to overtime. I thought my bet would probably lose now cause it's hard to still win by 2 in overtime, so I decided to place one more bet of 40mbtc on Oakland @ 2,20 to win the overtime. So that if I would win that bet it would at least cover my loss of the handicap bet. And, luckily after a hard fought overtime, Oakland did win the game 3-2. So my Match winner bet won, and my handicap bet lost. Both bets settled, one winner, one loser. But then one hour later I checked back and I suddenly saw my account balance was lower than it was before, and suddenly the bet on Oakland Match winner was voided! I could not believe my eyes......you void this bet after it was won? Livechat CS said "incorrect odds" and could only tell me this:

Quote
I don't have this information, unfortunately. Please refer to our terms and conditions:

16.5. Sportsbet.io reserves the right to declare a wager void, partially or in full, if Sportsbet.io deems it obvious that there was an error, mistake, misprint or technical error on the pay-table, odds or software.

But the bet was placed in the break between regular time and the overtime starting. Since when are 2,20 odds for the away team with a 2-2 score and both teams the same amount of innings to go "obvious wrong odds"? I am absolutely in shock and I withdrew all my funds for now and will not come back until this is resolved. I do hope someone reasonable of Sportsbet is on here to take care of this. If this is a void then everything can be void.......please Sportsbet have a look at this and manually credit the missing winnings of 48mbtc.
The bet I lost on this game is not void and the bet I won on this game is void. I would have ended up break-even (almost) on this game and now I am at a big loss, this is unfair. And even more unfair to first settle it as won and then change it to lost, after the game was finished....wow!

I'm not someone who complains often and in fact I didn't have a void bet before in any book (only started gambling online since this summer), but this one....sorry I can't just swallow this.

Screenshot:


Please someone from Sportsbet send me a PM and I will give you my username and the bet ID. Thanks.

Steve just solved this for me, great service, thanks! He credited the missing winnings to my account.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: September 20, 2021, 01:09:09 AM
Hello

I have enjoyed gambling at Sportsbet up until just now. Good website, nice quick navigation, quick crediting of deposits and withdrawals, lots of games on offer and good odds. Really, everything top notch and I was a really satisfied customer planning to stay for years to come.
But what just happened to me couple hours ago spoiled it all for me to be honest.
Was betting live on MLB on the game Oakland-LA Angels. I had a bet of 50 mbtc on Oakland -1,5 handicap @ 1,70 still pending from an hour earlier but because Angels came back to make it 2-2 it went to overtime. I thought my bet would probably lose now cause it's hard to still win by 2 in overtime, so I decided to place one more bet of 40mbtc on Oakland @ 2,20 to win the overtime. So that if I would win that bet it would at least cover my loss of the handicap bet. And, luckily after a hard fought overtime, Oakland did win the game 3-2. So my Match winner bet won, and my handicap bet lost. Both bets settled, one winner, one loser. But then one hour later I checked back and I suddenly saw my account balance was lower than it was before, and suddenly the bet on Oakland Match winner was voided! I could not believe my eyes......you void this bet after it was won? Livechat CS said "incorrect odds" and could only tell me this:

Quote
I don't have this information, unfortunately. Please refer to our terms and conditions:

16.5. Sportsbet.io reserves the right to declare a wager void, partially or in full, if Sportsbet.io deems it obvious that there was an error, mistake, misprint or technical error on the pay-table, odds or software.

But the bet was placed in the break between regular time and the overtime starting. Since when are 2,20 odds for the away team with a 2-2 score and both teams the same amount of innings to go "obvious wrong odds"? I am absolutely in shock and I withdrew all my funds for now and will not come back until this is resolved. I do hope someone reasonable of Sportsbet is on here to take care of this. If this is a void then everything can be void.......please Sportsbet have a look at this and manually credit the missing winnings of 48mbtc.
The bet I lost on this game is not void and the bet I won on this game is void. I would have ended up break-even (almost) on this game and now I am at a big loss, this is unfair. And even more unfair to first settle it as won and then change it to lost, after the game was finished....wow!

I'm not someone who complains often and in fact I didn't have a void bet before in any book (only started gambling online since this summer), but this one....sorry I can't just swallow this.

Screenshot:


Please someone from Sportsbet send me a PM and I will give you my username and the bet ID. Thanks.
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