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61  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == Bitcoin challenge transaction: ~100 BTC total bounty to solvers! ==UPDATED== on: December 03, 2022, 07:36:00 PM
I have millions of millions of #120 puzzle ranges ran over the years.
I will post them if someone knows a good site to post them where the links don't expire so I do not have to keep updating them.
Each file I will post roughly has 25 million ranges ran; each file size is about 1.5 gb. So a site that will allow multiple big files and the links do not expire lol.
Thanks.

Ask LoyceV, maybe he can help  Smiley

Background
To follow up on List of all Bitcoin addresses with a balance and this post, I made a list of all Bitcoin addresses that have ever been used.
62  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 07:28:25 PM
~
No, this 'NFT' is a bit different but it works. Again, read the 'how it works' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425241.0
The idea behind that is a 'signature transfer chain' that can only work if the private key holder/owner of the initial address signs a 'transfer message'.
Thereafter the initial owner can't sign a valid transfer message (we won't accept it as valid) as the 'transfer transaction' to the new owner will indicate the transfer of ownership.
So there will be exactly one owner at a given time who owns it and can transfer it.
63  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 07:12:49 PM
thus VALUELESS
please check the project 'how it works'
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425241.0
updated it
it works
64  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain - 'signature chain' on: December 03, 2022, 07:11:18 PM
Interesting. I am following the development. Let's see how it works.
Thanks.

Updated 'how it works'. Would be glad to hear your comments  Smiley
65  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 06:46:38 PM
~
No, the holder/owner of the private key will not sell their private key or give it to someone else.

The ownership transfer will work through a 'transfer signature' that will be signed by the holder/owner of the address.
The message in the signature will contain the address of the new owner, but the new owner won't have the private key of the old owner's address.

Started a new thread
old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425241.0

franky1, give it time. Then you will know that it is a 'good' project.

btw, you did forget that I'm also user yhiaali3 who suggested to make NFTs out of it  Smiley

Someone may want to convert old BTC addresses into NFT and sell them for large amounts later, this idea may achieve great profits after 10 years have passed, as these old addresses become of archaeological value as they are old Bitcoin addresses.
In this case, it does not matter whether you own the private key or not, because this address will not be used to send or receive bitcoins, but only as an NFT.

I'm not.
66  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain - 'signature chain' on: December 03, 2022, 12:36:41 PM
--reserved for signatures and for further notices--


If you understood 'signature chain' and like that idea and want to create one through sending from an old account, please use one of these addresses:


1DUdEjKdyFdpw9K4w23bPGLmCyK3BnuBYC

1CRAfffFRAqw7ptEGGzcrVaX8cKUvAfQhi


You can DM me the signature or post it on this thread and it will be listed here.

Thank you.


_________________________________________________________________


'siganture chains' on the Bitcoin blockchain:


block 1,018  -  19/Jan/2009 10:41 AM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj - #1
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 128,482  -  04/Jun/2011 03:54 AM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1H3TAVNZFZfiLUp9o9E93oTVY9WgYZ5knX - #2
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1Pex1JK5w9VTGwohc3pqjfU72AmTgdi3r5
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1H3TAVNZFZfiLUp9o9E93oTVY9WgYZ5knX
HNLJsfUlWe8OjHTsO2lbz++afWbRFoz1ZRshxHJNvk1RZQdhppAQTiy9JZPCjVHOCn/uRlEmwfYxrylmdDSTYWA=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 765,894  -  04/Dec/2022 07:19 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1NCLNyKPGjx2GwdRSPB5xqfy58WtGtgNgo - #3
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1M4wDv1tGEt2yPL6FrkM6o19jxV6mdopnP
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NCLNyKPGjx2GwdRSPB5xqfy58WtGtgNgo
H5U5G/qQy2pk5Es6LCFrfzKuA5vFnpq7oBT4/V91jhGRafWg9Bq8A6Au+tPYNE/kdAm07JkcL82QTJ6QlSPr86Y=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1B2a3bau6T5jHRgzWo4pzRj93fkPNaPZHj
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1M4wDv1tGEt2yPL6FrkM6o19jxV6mdopnP
H22/CTmYHFL5SPorqchj44pya7QRVYekvBxiqVslfMJechxQ1hE0tYpRjCxB/77A3tohMuhC1Pafa44wDgqlrWY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 766,041  -  05/Dec/2022 08:12 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1234n5z7EmsNaibnybrRi3YbBEPBgCAMbC - #4
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
17pspAdnfa19gTX926FYKfx5tVfNJCXCQ8
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1234n5z7EmsNaibnybrRi3YbBEPBgCAMbC
IEMtMYwuX9YyczBRyGFEip5gjVQUqKDtXEVG8U63ERZQYbH6fn74FVPoUVF9R5uMvQPfvE0DIYp7FhAvQSk6suo=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 766,050  -  05/Dec/2022 10:22 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV - #5
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
14ivWoBRgpfMbyiWqyjuDFnch6sGpsxKTV
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV
IBNSqTqvnbppr24p5yLGfAhki47DRCOTH6D4DQ/07LePPjqRTNna/SyL3KcSLgUP2GNYsG5N+El6EnoEU5P95VA=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 766,072  -  06/Dec/2022 12:46 AM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1PiN2bq1xLXt8Jb4XnJRwWfVEmTfcGM8iV - #6
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1CLoAKmgiMrE3nnwvqZNydcsVDVCoLTKzd
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PiN2bq1xLXt8Jb4XnJRwWfVEmTfcGM8iV
H/fKgbt+JNkeBAkv+5lmhy3vigirOmeJdqufcKV2NCmTOFtRi71s4YBG03HuAYpSne6flLgeoMboQw3sKoG1tsQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 767,374  -  14/Dec/2022 10:58 AM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1Not1fWnZwiKJe4GKa9GujV2PXypYuxXkZ - #7
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1J2QARtbXjsF7UjPYywVbaxavvD5qaCHaf
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Not1fWnZwiKJe4GKa9GujV2PXypYuxXkZ
G86xn1/3wleht2xAWmbOtkAQgyzvkpO4rYfdvPD53C+pPXcHOFVGUikSejNp6bH4iac3K2KER57nt5Jve3GP+k4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


block 776,230  -  12/Feb/2023 09:04 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1DUdEjKdyFdpw9K4w23bPGLmCyK3BnuBYC - #8
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1NC6jpyF6jQyrA7MvbMGC4QcnhrmhUQ5Ln
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1DUdEjKdyFdpw9K4w23bPGLmCyK3BnuBYC
H9v6ftDlThA1yj+6LUN/K40Whuo9jwCL69emfkl/VNV5Bd54SuySCJDdEJUGIg6J970DSnEPlNPtfkucLyTJRYk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----



block 776,230  -  12/Feb/2023 09:04 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1By1a6KCFNneEf3MawrYdNcWMzwVZMPVz5 - #9
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1CVmaLQoPBvVnbtRhdcieXWuPKkKTSRnhi
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1By1a6KCFNneEf3MawrYdNcWMzwVZMPVz5
IC3FWHHmr+wmCKbMfOVzMF84oxXgPEMaGPNrqID8yJFvGQgo1N8FCBMtn1laFe1pJhQxZxn5ZwQM/toswFAXyPE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----



block 776,230  -  12/Feb/2023 09:04 PM UTC  -  'signature chain' ID: 1DjccyvVCfYY6U18fM84XFcF9uyqkrAdJm - #10
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1GEavqPv9gWYp8oJkvmwJx6vRRCg3DL2gG
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1DjccyvVCfYY6U18fM84XFcF9uyqkrAdJm
IJ+pKb1sAAqWmShFTXerSL9hVqyULCjuV1bsmsUiBHz0TZNIRyqHNWneoSZ/XQ6xTwfbK6w3/e36xbF6q2GATco=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
67  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain - 'signature chain' on: December 03, 2022, 12:33:24 PM
how it works - will be updated


'signature chain' rules


Only legacy addresses that start with '1' and had at least one incoming transaction that is on the Bitcoin blockchain can become a 'signature chain.'

Some addresses don't have outgoing transactions, these are valid too.

Addresses can be compressed or uncompressed.

There is no upper limit for the number of incoming or outgoing transactions.

The private key holder of such an address can start a 'signature chain.'

The starting address is the ID (or the name) of that 'siganture chain.'

The blocktime of the first incoming transaction of a given address indicates the 'siganture chain age.'

The ownership transfer happens through 'transfer signatures' + 'transfer transactions.'

'Transfer signatures' are message signatures, where the message is the Bitcoin address of the new owner.

Anything else than the address of the new owner in the message would make the transfer signature invalid.

A transfer signature is only valid if there is a transfer transaction.

A transfer transaction is a transaction from the address of the old owner to the address of the new owner and the value is not important (can be dust).

The transfer transaction can contain more than one input (from the old owner) but it is only valid if it has exactly 1 output (to the new owner).

The new owner is now the sole owner of the 'signature chain' and can transfer this to a new address who will become the next owner.

Only unused/empty legacy addresses starting with '1' can receive 'signature chains.'

It is important to store the signature history of the 'signature chain' as the new owner needs it to verify the ownership.

If a 'signature chain' was transferred to an address, any outgoing Bitcoin transaction from that address thereafter would indicate the transfer of the 'signature chain'. So it is recommended to have a separate Bitcoin address for 'signature chain' transactions.

A Bitcoin address can hold only 1 'signature chain.' (if an address holds one 'singature chain' and receives another one, then the new one is not valid and the sending address will remain the owner)

Any address that received Bitcoin from a legacy address after the initial block (see below) can't receive a 'signature chain' if there is only 1 transaction output as the received Bitcoin could be a 'siganture chain' transfer that will be revealed later by the owner. Therefore it is recommended to use a new legacy address to receive a 'signature chain.'

The first 'siganture chain' of the project (1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj transfers the 'signature ownership' to 1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa) doesn't need a transaction (by definition it is the initial signature like Bitcoin block 0). All other 'transfer signatures' need 'transfer transactions' to be valid.

Invalid 'signature transactions' can be on the blockchain. But they will be treated as not happened.

Valid after block 765779 (03/Dec/2022 11:04 PM UTC) txid 16bb6761cc8d7d393d25a88ec589361c1f0461a9c138ecc2333b0736efe488de = initial transfer (example below)



Example:

we have a signature that 1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj transfers the 'signature ownership' to 1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

we have a signature that 1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa transfers the 'signature ownership' to 1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

then we have a 'transfer transaction': Bitcoin transfer from 1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa to 1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
txid 16bb6761cc8d7d393d25a88ec589361c1f0461a9c138ecc2333b0736efe488de

the 'signature chain'

1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7

has the ID 1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj (= first/initial address in the chain)
and only 1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7 (= last address in the chain) can transfer that 'signature chain'

It is to mention that this example is a special example as the first signature in that project doesn't need a transaction (by definition of that project it is the initial signature like Bitcoin block 0). All other 'transfer signatures' need 'transfer transactions' to be valid.
But it works even without a 'transfer transaction' of the 'transfer signature' for the first project transfer.


Example 2:

It worked. (It should work because Bitcoin works  Smiley)

The transfer to 143NrfsANkM5B2Y3pWeCHNxGQS8kBFceDw is stored on the blockchain, but the 'signature chain' protocol doesn't accept it because the target address was a used address. So the owner 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV was still the owner of the 'signature chain'.

I sent it to the other unused/empty address 14ivWoBRgpfMbyiWqyjuDFnch6sGpsxKTV and now the protocol accepts it.

You have your 'signature chain' on 14ivWoBRgpfMbyiWqyjuDFnch6sGpsxKTV.

txid 387087dddda71c8d48ee1a7ec08652507a32a9a2a2d574884f633065575675c2
block 766,199

signature:
Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
14ivWoBRgpfMbyiWqyjuDFnch6sGpsxKTV
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV
IBNSqTqvnbppr24p5yLGfAhki47DRCOTH6D4DQ/07LePPjqRTNna/SyL3KcSLgUP2GNYsG5N+El6EnoEU5P95VA=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

This signature is proof that 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV gives you the right to transfer this 'signature chain' for the Bitcoin address 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV to someone else. 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV is a newly created address to test 'siganture chain' but it could be for example a very old address and the private key holder/owner of that address could transfer the rights to someone else through signing such a message where the address of the new owner is the message and transferring Bitcoin (value is not important/can be dust) to the address of the new owner.

Only you can transfer this 'signature chain' for 1MAP7AKiN5Ddce82VE8eFheFfyQ8iffvmV with the private key of 14ivWoBRgpfMbyiWqyjuDFnch6sGpsxKTV. It is important that you store that signature above. Because there is no 'signature chain' explorer at the moment where you could see that. This signature is like the NFT picture that is not stored on the blockchain.

We are doing all procedures manually at the moment. And it is good as people can understand how it works. At some point it should work automatically through a wallet/explorer.

Now we have to see how the community will accept it. But I have a feeling that it is CryptoPunks in the making.  Smiley
68  Bitcoin / Project Development / old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain - 'signature chain' on: December 03, 2022, 12:31:55 PM


'signature chain' - a new type of 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain

OpenSea: https://opensea.io/collection/signature-chain
The items include the private key of the Bitcoin address for the given 'signature chain' as unlockable content that can only be unlocked and revealed by the new owner of this item.

Don't use these addresses for your private/own transactions. These are just for 'signature chain' transactions. You don't need to transfer the 'signature chain' immediately after purchase. You should understand how it works before transferring it. But if you believe in that project, you can get it now.

Rarity: 'signature chains' that start with early used addresses but also early created 'siganture chains' in that project. We are very early (13/Feb/2023).
 




How this started:

Recently there was a post with signatures, that used a key of a very old (January 2009) Bitcoin address.

This is the oldest signature  Smiley  (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


signature chain  Smiley


Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

The discussion was "is it Satoshi or not, who is it" and so on.

Then the user yhiaali3 mentioned that it could be used to create an NFT.

Someone may want to convert old BTC addresses into NFT and sell them for large amounts later, this idea may achieve great profits after 10 years have passed, as these old addresses become of archaeological value as they are old Bitcoin addresses.
In this case, it does not matter whether you own the private key or not, because this address will not be used to send or receive bitcoins, but only as an NFT.

And we want to test a new type of 'NFT' here with that project:

--- old Bitcoin addresses as 'NFT' on the Bitcoin blockchain - a signature chain ---
69  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 12:09:48 PM
I am not sure why there is much urge about finding Satoshi at all?

It's not about finding Satoshi. The question came up as the (OP) mentioned signature has been created with a very old key that has been used in January 2009. Now there is a new theory that they are testing an 'NFT' like ownership transfer of old (empty) Bitcoin addresses.
70  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who has/had the oldest mined Bitcoin? on: December 03, 2022, 12:02:00 PM
I want to know if people from the early days of Bitcoin who mined are still here. If you want, you can post here a signature for the text "bitcointalk" with your oldest key so we can check who has/had the oldest mined Bitcoin. Even when the coins were sent, you can post the signature for that address.
Yeah, for what reasons?
Maybe they are testing a new 'NFT' within the Bitcoin blockchain where old (empty) Bitcoin addresses are the 'NFTs'.

Someone may want to convert old BTC addresses into NFT and sell them for large amounts later, this idea may achieve great profits after 10 years have passed, as these old addresses become of archaeological value as they are old Bitcoin addresses.
In this case, it does not matter whether you own the private key or not, because this address will not be used to send or receive bitcoins, but only as an NFT.
71  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 11:45:15 AM
Someone may want to convert old BTC addresses into NFT and sell them for large amounts later, this idea may achieve great profits after 10 years have passed, as these old addresses become of archaeological value as they are old Bitcoin addresses.
In this case, it does not matter whether you own the private key or not, because this address will not be used to send or receive bitcoins, but only as an NFT.
Can you generate a legacy Bitcoin address (starting with 1..) and post it here? I want to try this 'NFT' idea with old Bitcoin addresses.  Smiley
72  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 11:26:42 AM
Someone may want to convert old BTC addresses into NFT and sell them for large amounts later, this idea may achieve great profits after 10 years have passed, as these old addresses become of archaeological value as they are old Bitcoin addresses.
In this case, it does not matter whether you own the private key or not, because this address will not be used to send or receive bitcoins, but only as an NFT.
Is possible too, and they're creating a new market.

Is that the ownership transfer of such signatures? (signature chain)

This is the oldest signature  Smiley  (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----


signature chain  Smiley


Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1KN59gRxD8G9g9smSLTFt9aSgWxYxTzFL7
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
HwvtQmiREYIyZeI9uohqr82d9eiwtcBgbhG5+VR7+ouEDOTgd6EYvcgNQVELLVJnQbYhN6SSv1xPtQ8SmIa10+U=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
73  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 11:11:44 AM
most bankers will still ask for screenshots of transactions from your email or exchange in those dates, not signing. I say this from exchange requests asking to show where it came from.
I'd tell them screenshots can be faked, and prove nothing. Instead, I'd send them a signed message, printed on paper for their inconvenience.
But don't do this with the private key/signature of the OP mentioned address.

These in Januray 2009 mined coins were transferred in 2011 (txid 567a9a7f9191db644a09985fad113dd6ee770eac69454317430e694305be9c56) with several other very early mined coins. So whoever created that transaction, has the private keys of other very early addresses too. And some addresses you can find here:



source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/


Who can explain?  Huh
74  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
It's not perfect, but I don't have a better explanation either.
Yes, could be. But in this case we have a very old address, maybe the oldest. LoyceV, you are an experienced bitcointalk member. What was the oldest signature you've seen?
75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 10:17:03 AM
Why would anyone want to buy a bitcoin address?
For example to claim other coins.
For Transaction History or using for claim another coin. If i remember correctly, they buying address and signed message it to claim free CLAM coin in the past, so i think its work like that too now.

But in our case here, it has nothing to do with claims. This pivate key that has been used to sign that massage is one of the oldest, maybe the oldest that exist.
76  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: December 03, 2022, 01:02:21 AM
Invoking "satoshi" is just clickbait
I am not sure.


This is the oldest signature  Smiley  (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Maybe true and nobody else can sign with a key of an older address. This would be true if they own all older keys.
77  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who has/had the oldest mined Bitcoin? on: December 03, 2022, 12:23:34 AM
This is the oldest signature  Smiley  (please post if you have a signature with an older address)

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1E9YwDtYf9R29ekNAfbV7MvB4LNv7v3fGa
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NChfewU45oy7Dgn51HwkBFSixaTnyakfj
HCsBcgB+Wcm8kOGMH8IpNeg0H4gjCrlqwDf/GlSXphZGBYxm0QkKEPhh9DTJRp2IDNUhVr0FhP9qCqo2W0recNM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This address is included in the transaction input of txid 567a9a7f9191db644a09985fad113dd6ee770eac69454317430e694305be9c56

and some of these too.


 Huh

source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/
78  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Last Stand on: December 01, 2022, 01:56:13 AM
my 2030 machine is saying:

wrong
79  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: What happens if the hashrate drops by 50% at once? on: November 28, 2022, 06:02:24 PM
Maybe this is possible too:

If the hashrate comes down so extremely the 'mining part of the world' would try to get any mining machine as the profitability would go up even for non-profitable miners. They would buy/ship all miners to these places. Even GPU/FPGA mining would become profitable again (for a short time). So my expectation is that the hashrate would rise again but we wouldn't reach the former hashrates. I can't imagine an average blocktime more than 30 minutes for a long period. The mining rentability would correct it.
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Satoshi? Did he sign that message? on: November 28, 2022, 12:33:05 PM
That message signing protocol wasn't invented back then so it couldn't have been signed then.
That means somebody still has the private key and can sign messages. The post above proves that too. But it is amazing that it is a January-2009 address/key. If someone can post a signature with an old key (block 1 - 2000) that's great. I don't think that the address/key was sold/bought because there's no reason for these first miners to do it.
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