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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Need help and advice about some investment, only personal experiences! on: July 14, 2022, 11:02:59 PM
Has anyone dealt with crypto-arbitrage? Is it really such a profitable thing? And how difficult and risky is it? I 'm asking cause I talked to the guys from the firm, so they offer 20% per month. So I'm thinking, should I go try it myself or work with them? If anyone is wondering what i'm talking about, here's the link: https://intelfin.io/
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 05, 2022, 12:03:26 PM
You posted the same topic on different boards, Altcoin Discussion and Marketplace (Altcoins).
Other thread: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404918.0)
You have to close this thread or the other if you want to continue with same topic.
I'm trying to find answers and real experinces, not just opinions of "experts"
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 05, 2022, 12:01:03 PM
I haven't looked through the project yet because I see with a profit of 13%/month I can be sure that it is a scam project nothing more.
I would advise you to stay far away from it, and to never consider investing even a small amount of money in it.

As a newbie, don't just try to invest in scam projects with high-interest offers, you should focus on knowledge and then try to get started with bitcoin, beyond the top coins head instead of anonymous projects like this.
I'm not newbie, I have btc already
Whay you think this is scam project. Do you have personal experince? It looks legit to me
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 05, 2022, 11:44:28 AM
Guys, has anyone heard smth about Intelfin Group companies? I read the reviews, it seems fine. They work with crypto. The yield is around 13% per month...
Of course, I just wanted to hear personal experiences but there is no one, only "experts"
Thanks mate

You do not need to make an investment decision based on the advice of third parties, as you yourself must be responsible for your capital. But I still want to warn you against investing in such projects, since the profit of 13% per month looks too attractive for it to be true.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 05, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
Guys, has anyone heard smth about Intelfin Group companies? I read the reviews, it seems fine. They work with crypto. The yield is around 13% per month. Their plans seem to be serious. They even do co-financing. I'm lost whether to try or not. I 'd be grateful for any info. Here's the firm’s link: https://intelfin.io/


if I will invest of course I will do the overall analysis first.  and if there is an investment like the link you shared I will be more careful, believe me to get 13% per year it is quite difficult especially if someone offers 13% per month.  this doesn't make sense, I didn't see the link you shared but with experience, be careful with investments like this usually investments that offer high interest lead to ponzi schemes.
My opinion was same as yours but I know few people from my block that actually invest some money, but small amounts and they are satisfied. I'm writing here just to hear more opinions and experiences because my plans are bigger then just few k
Thanks anyway
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 05, 2022, 11:32:17 AM
I agree with the opinion with the people before me. Seems like it's a scam.. Excluding the moon percentages that they are promising, I have looked up the site, couldn't find the team neither there neither on linkedin.. They have quite botted replies in the Trustpilot review and botted twitter.. Definitely don't invest there
Well i did found those things
Anyway thanks 😊
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 03, 2022, 10:33:01 PM
What are you looking for specifically, is it developers, marketers, parties that gain valuable content.etc?
What are your areas of work, mining, savings, solar energy? How to pay (in Bitcoin or another currency)
Have you studied the market situation because the time is not ideal for launching new projects?
I'm looking where I can invest money because real estate bussiness is not good anymore
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 02, 2022, 11:53:33 AM
3. Mates, wanna try working with one firm engaged in trading on the crypto market. They use bots with AI. The profit is promised to be real good in general. Maybe someone knows smth about them? Here's the link ro their site: https://intelfin.io/
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help and advice about crypto investment on: July 01, 2022, 11:51:43 AM
I don't think you will really make a good profits from that project because all those new projects, it hard for traders to enjoy their rewards compare to old projects people have tested and trusted in terms of investing a huge amount of money. There are many potential project you can invest in with a small capital and start earning a good profits that will keep you happy through out the seasons. The most important thing in crypto investment you must learn how to carry out your personal research before investing on a particular project in the community.
It's not a new project
I did research, but I like to hear other people opinion
Thanks
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Need help and advice about crypto investment on: June 29, 2022, 10:40:40 AM
Guys, has anyone heard smth about Intelfin Group companies? I read the reviews, it seems fine. They work with crypto. The yield is around 13% per month. Their plans seem to be serious. They even do co-financing. I'm lost whether to try or not. I 'd be grateful for any info. Here's the firm’s link: https://intelfin.io/
11  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Have you heard about Intelfin Global? Experience? on: June 27, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
It's just the typical scam trading bot promising high returns. Let's wake up, low risk + high returns doesn't exist. It's the reason why these people are bothering recruiting for memberships instead of taking the easy route of investing themselves. There's plenty of ways to get a starting capital especially if you're confident you'll be making a profit 24/7 lol.

Arbitration bot
Income up to 22.4% per month
What is the winning formula? Low risk + high return. Our automated system works effectively in different markets, making a profit 24/7.
You obviously have no experience so do not comment. I came here to hear other people personal experience. I only heard positive experiences from people who are in the sistem. I'm asking this because I have much bigger investments plans than them. Thanks and goodbye
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Have you heard about Intelfin Global? Experience? on: June 27, 2022, 09:12:46 AM
Hello friends
I have few questations about Intelfin
Do you have experience with Intelfin Global? If you do have can you share them?
Thanks
https://intelfin.io/
13  Other / Off-topic / Have you heard about Intelfin Global? Experience? on: June 27, 2022, 08:57:22 AM
I would love to invest some money in Intelfin Global but before that I would love to hear your experience.
Thanks
https://intelfin.io/
14  Economy / Trading Discussion / Have you heard about Intelfin Global? Experience? on: June 27, 2022, 01:15:38 AM
Do you have experience with Intelfin Global?
If somebody have some experience please share with me/us.
Intelfin.io
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: I want to Believe on: June 23, 2022, 08:51:36 PM
I want to Believe

You want to belive in aliens? They are among us 😊
16  Other / Off-topic / Re: Time Travel? on: June 23, 2022, 08:45:09 PM
Do you believe in time travel? If time travel was real I want to go back in time when Satoshi still exist in this forum. I'll buy BTC as many as I could afford  Grin
AHAHAHAH maybe, you never know 😊
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin Disappointed You ? on: June 23, 2022, 02:52:58 PM
Bitcoin has broken the all time high of 2017 and now it is around 19,000$. The worst part is that even on these level, we are not seeing any pumps and look like price may fall all the way to 10,000$ or even lower.
Once bitcoin was at 69,000$, who would have thought that bitcoin will go so low so fast ?  Now what do think, where we are in terms of bitcoin cycle. I think we are already in th bear market since summer of last year and maybe the bottom/ end of bear market is near ?
I belive that BTC is coming back. I did not expect thet he can go down so fast but you can't know that.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have real value? on: June 23, 2022, 02:43:38 PM
Many people treat Bitcoin as if it’s a value. People trade a lot of money to buy Bitcoins. People spend money to manage their Bitcoins. People spend time to learn about Bitcoins. Given how much time and money are being spent to buy, manage, and learn about Bitcoins; it makes sense to get an answer to the question, “Is Bitcoin a real value?” That is, is it something that helps sustain human life and is to be pursued for that reason?

In my research, I’ve identified four reasons that people give for why they consider Bitcoin to be a value.

The first reason is it’s useful as a type of currency. In fact, Bitcoin’s biggest value proposition is that it can be used as an alternative to fiat currency. This supposedly gives users more freedom than they would otherwise have. For example, if someone in China wants to trade their yuans for dollars without having to deal with governmental control over the banking infrastructure, they can trade yuans for Bitcoins and then trade those Bitcoins for dollars.

The second reason is that it’s finite. This means users should be protected from a third-party (i.e., the government) creating an unlimited number of additional Bitcoins, thus, diluting its value.

The third reason is that it costs energy in the form of human labor and electricity to produce. This can be referred to as the labor theory of value.

The fourth reason is that people believe it’s a value. This can be referred to as the subjective theory of value.

But I’ve found these reasons to be invalid.

First, the fact that Bitcoin can be used as a type of currency cannot justify its value. For something to be useful as a type of currency, it must satisfy all the following conditions:
1. It must be fungible.
2. It must be easily divisible.
3. It must be easy to exchange.
4. It must be a long-term stored value.

Bitcoin does meet the first three conditions.

The fourth condition means it must already be considered a value before it can be used as a currency. If there isn’t independent support for its having value, the claim that Bitcoin has value is circular. See below:
1. Bitcoin is a value because it can be used as a currency.
2. Bitcoin can be used as a currency because it is a [long-term stored] value.

Second, the fact that Bitcoin is finite doesn’t by itself make it a value. Scarcity does not determine whether something is a value or not. Scarcity only determines the price of something that is already determined to be a value because of another reason. For example, certain forms of toxic waste may be scarce but that doesn’t mean the waste is a value.

Third, the labor theory of value is wrong. That is, the fact that something costs energy (human or machine) to produce doesn’t make it a value. Digging a hole and refilling it again consumes energy but doesn’t create anything of value.

Fourth, the subjective theory of value is wrong. People can be defrauded. Theranos is a recent example of this. People can also be mistaken about value. The housing crash or the numerous failed investments in start-ups are clear examples of this. When people are defrauded or are mistaken, this means their belief in something being a value is wrong. Just because a lot of people believe that something is a value doesn’t make it so.

For something to be a value, the reason(s) must be real. Let’s use the US dollar as an example of something that has a real value. The US is a society where producers specialize and trade their products with one another to get what they need to survive. The US government requires traders to give them US dollars whenever a trade occurs (i.e., taxes). This requirement is forced at the point of a gun. The US dollar is, at its core, a type of ticket that you must give to the government to allow you to live. That makes the US dollar valuable to your life.

While it’s true that the US government can dilute the purchasing power of the US dollar, that doesn’t mean that it has no real value right now. A potential is not the same thing as an actual. As of now, the US government still exists, the massive capital infrastructure under its jurisdiction still exists, and its ability to tax trades between organizations or people who use this capital infrastructure is still strong. This is the basis for the US dollar’s real value.

Bitcoin has no such basis or any other basis. Without a valid basis to justify why Bitcoin has real value, the proper default position to take is to assume that Bitcoin has no real value.

Bitcoin has more then one utility.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is million token dead? on: June 20, 2022, 02:39:34 PM
Is million token volume is accurate? I see Million token price today is 2$  and the marketcap is 2M and trading volume  of 17k in the last 24 hours.

Is very low.. Is it dead what you think?

In compassion to other coin   like Derace token has marketcap of 11M and trading volume of 2M

Million token is dead the coin of techlead?
I hope not
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC is coming back on: June 18, 2022, 03:31:35 PM
What is your opinion about BTC and low price
Is this the beginning of the end or just bad period

Beginning of what end? Aren't you been told about how bitcoin operates and the nature of it volatile moves, why will there be a created panic out of nothing on something that does not loose value but only moves in price base on the same economy demand and supply for good and commodities which is only an ordinary room to open for new investors as a result of low in demand and high supply, maybe you're once a victim from altcoins scams and think this also applies to bitcoin but i can tell you vividly that you're wrong, bitcoin still remains valuable and is only gathering momentum for a speedy move up


1BTC is still 1BTC as long as you haven't sold them you still have nothing to lose. Bitcoin is not altcoins, many altcoins have dropped in price and they will probably never return to their original position after going through a bear market like today and our bitcoins are very different. BTC is falling and dropping a lot but bitcoin will end its bear cycle soon and then there will only be up and keep going up. Your failure with altcoin is not like you hold bitcoin, bitcoin is entirely different from the rest of the market.
I agree with you
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