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Ищу работу в сфере Гэмблинга, большой опыт в работе с ними, знаю поведение проф. игроков, бонус-хантеров. tg: @kapkanaru
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csgo500 completely made of scam, I remember back in October, they probably had instant withdrawals, a great atmosphere in the chat, I was sure that they would withdraw my money and instantly, now I hear that they confiscate balances, delay withdrawals, changed the line to sports, good there was a bookmaker, but now they do not inspire confidence.
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I have a little problem accessing the Vave.com site. I first use the desktop to access and it's very slow even though my internet network is very fast. then I tried again on my mobile and the result is the same when accessing using desktop or mobile it is very slow.
or someone here feels the same way? or is there really an error in my internet network?
I waited for almost 5 minutes but no images appeared on the Vave web site screen.
I have just opened the website and it seems functional and responding fast. Why do you only answer questions that are convenient for you? Hello, could you please explain to me the timing of the withdrawal of funds? I play on your site, I found out about you on this forum.
And is it normal to delay payments after I won back my minus and went into profit?
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Hello, could you please explain to me the timing of the withdrawal of funds? I play on your site, I found out about you on this forum.
And is it normal to delay payments after I won back my minus and went into profit?
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December 6th? All 3 of us were banned on the same day.
Laki21000, is OP your friend? TRC20 USDT, from the same country, banned on the same day.
You're laughing? I don't know who it is at all. But it looks suspicious. Apparently, he was blocked recently, in any case, I would not advise trustdice to any of my friends, then I will definitely be left without friends  Let's make sure it's an accurate claim before jumping on trustdice. @Coinbox1 you might look at how many players were banned for the same thing these guys are claiming and look for connections to each account. I'm not defending anyone, by any means. |
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And hello again @coinbox1, OP was blocked for me for the same reason exactly the same as yours, check it out. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425888.0I'm not surprised at all that you haven't changed your attitude. However, we are waiting for a response from the casino representative, perhaps there will be evidence of blocking. |
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I removed my support for the flags but I ask @Coinbox1 do you actually acknowledge your mistakes and know what they are/were? Or are you just agreeing to let this accusation go away? I removed my support for the contract violation flag since the victim has forgiven the casino's wrongdoings. My personal opinion is that this casino is a danger to the community. They are either incompetent and have no idea how sportsbook operations are supposed to work or they are plain and simple scammers. You can see how much drama they attempted to create around the do US sports begin with a delay or not issue. That was an attempt to deviate from the topic of them confiscating someone's money for no reason. It didn't work. My guess is they were hoping to get the community behind their back in trying to portray me, holydarkness, and Poika5 as the bad guys and them being the innocent victims. Since that didn't work, they figured it's better to return the money and salvage the reputation on the forum. Most importantly, they wanted to get rid of the flags and the warning that appeared above their ANN informing the community that the casino is suspected of being a scam. Trustdice.win is a platform I will recommend that players stay away from. @Poika5 any news about your case? As I wrote earlier, I am of the opinion to leave flag 1 so that beginners see the possibilities of this casino, flag 2 does not actually correspond to its value at the moment, the money is withdrawn, if @Poika5 does not withdraw money, he will be able to create flag 2 where users decide , whether to support him or not, I will support him anyway, because the situation with my case is ambiguous, and I'm sure that they gave me the money just to save their reputation, but this is the Internet, and the Internet remembers everything) now in Google if you score "TrustDice scam" gives bitcointalk topics, but my topic was decided, but I will not change the name of the topic from "Trustdice scam" to something else so that people can read what is happening here by keywords. --------- In any case, if you decide to advertise your bitcointalk casino among gamblers, be kind enough to accept complaints and resolve them with users. They still do not answer me by mail, it feels like they are sitting in a bunker or simply do not read their mail. |
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as i see flag 2 is removed. but I agree with the opinion that flag 1 should be left so that in the future beginners know that an untidy situation with their funds may occur. however, we are waiting for a decision on the user @poika5
the flag you left is still there, but it is inactive because there is not enough support after my withdrawal and opposing the same flag. User poika5 also creates a flag referencing this case. since this case is positively resolved, the second flag also has no reason to be active. after all that, he no longer has any influence on that flag. nor can he erase him, and his vote is not as strong as the votes of DT members. if you or anyone else wants to mark their profile, do it via the feedback. I'd say that's more appropriate. speculating whether they will make the same mistake in the future or whether there may be another case is still only speculation. the assumption is still not enough to mark someone as a fraud. I would also keep this in mind. this case was resolved due to pressure on the forum, Trustdice team decided to try to protect and preserve the reputation here. if we were to punish them for a mistake they admitted and corrected, I don't know what will be their motive in the next case. how to remove flag 2 from me? I don't know |
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as i see flag 2 is removed. but I agree with the opinion that flag 1 should be left so that in the future beginners know that an untidy situation with their funds may occur. however, we are waiting for a decision on the user @poika5
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Upon reviewing OP's submitted info, we discussed with our sports provider as soon as possible to re-evaluate the decision. As a result of such discussion, we have decided to unblock OP's account, return the confiscated funds, and have informed the OP at the first opportunity. We also sent $100 withdraw-able bonus to OP's account to compensate for the inconvenience caused by all the these. It is our understanding that OP has initiated a withdrawal, which has been approved. As the below TX id suggests, the transaction has now been completed: https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/603bc06c1665a40215a4e01e163f1bc9c32ab83e5f800be2592bb4be186fcda5This means OP has received his full balance, plus $100 bonus. We deeply apologize for the inconvenience caused and will work hard to improve our sports betting anti-abuse systems. Sincerely, TrustDice Team I am very happy that you admitted your mistakes after 2 weeks of hard discussion, however give me a couple of answers to my questions, will you progress on the feedback question from the players? they won’t block again with similar extremely gross errors in the study of violations, because for example, I will also bet for my own pleasure and you decide to block me again, only on other points of your rules (I noticed that you block users only if they get a plus) @Poika5 , Did you receive your payment? |
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I received a payment from TrustDice, they also gave me 100 usdt as a bonus, however, I would like to ask the bitcointalk community if it is worth removing the flag and all the negative ratings from the casino?, also let @Poika5 know if the money was withdrawn. I also have a lot of questions from Trustdice, why there was no feedback, why such an incompetent person works as a marketer, and will my account be active further? but will they tell me to make a deposit again in this casino... UPD: The support operator said that I have been cleared and can continue to play on the site, but for some reason I have doubts and they can also block me in the future, only for a different reason, tell me the correct path of events, the employees and business building at Trustdice are terrible, but the software and the line for sports is good, where is it better to turn? P.S. Thank you, @Poika5 @Pmalek, @holydarkness for your work, and for your independent assessment of events, I have no merit to support and thank you. However, behind the monitor, you will take my kind words to yourself. https://imgur.com/a/BXbKaF8
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My first priority is Trust Dice, then others may follows in the like of Roobet, Rollbit, and Duelbit, am the type that doesn't like to have a taste of any casinos which is outside this forum in other to help safe myself from unnecessary stress, they have their discussion threads here and i can easily get updated from them any required information.
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Reputation and years of operations, i put this in consideration because i believe any casino that has been long in operation would have attained a certain level of expertise in their gambling service and gained public trust or distrust.
I understand that you get paid for a signature company, but have you seen my thread? trustdice now looks like a fraudulent casino in my eyes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425888.0 |
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Hello everyone,
Just to let you know that our product team has created a task to track feedback from this thread. (In addition to the feedback already been forwarded to them)
So from now on, ALL your opinions will be counted and documented! We, again, appreciate all your feedback and we look forward to incorporate some of these into our product roadmap.
Sincerely,
TrustDice Team
Wow what an amazing effort from trustdice. They have really put an effort in hearing the community out. Imagine putting out someone to monitor the tread and documenting it. With the proper implementation and marketing, There's a high chance that there are gamblers who will switch in your casino if ever they see their desired wants in your casino. I might personally try trustdice myself in the coming weeks. Goodjob trustdice! Before playing in trustdice, I recommend reading my thread where trustdice casino illegally withholds my funds and refuses to withdraw them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5425888.0 |
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<Snip> I have supported the flag against the casino and its forum admin. When they created the flag, Poika5 mentioned Laki21000's thread (the one we are writing in) and that's why I can support it. I want to remain unbiased and neutral and since I am not familiar yet with Poika5's case and their claim against Trustdice, I couldn't have supported a flag created because of that incident. I would also suggest that Laki21000 create a Type 2 or 3 type of flag for his particular case because he is directly affected by the casino's actions. When you have created the flag Laki21000, you can post the link here so that other users can support it if they want to. Put a link in your first post as well. You can also request support for your flag or the one created by Poika5 by posting about it in LoyceV's thread Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!. Just make sure you follow the guidelines as explained by LoyceV. Check my flag please. I don't know if I did everything right |
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In my opinion, the case has reached a dead end, or they don’t want to solve it, or they no longer have arguments
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@coinbox1, please turn off the who is offended at everyone because you are accused of something, and conduct a constructive dialogue, there are more than 40 messages where evidence has already been provided for my bet, what else do you want? maybe you need to go to the stadium cleaner and find out when the match started? what are you even carrying? @holydarkness told you all the movement of the match and made an assumption, I think they are good in resolving the dispute, but since you ran out of arguments, you decided to behave properly, strange these are all people independent of me, can you still say that I am in cahoots with them? what will you say next to protect your "scam casino"? Make no mistake, some else's behavior won't affect OP's case. We still look forward to resolving this issue with the OP, who’s been labelled as abuser by our sports provider initially. If anyone can find following information, please feel free to send to info@trustdice.win so we can forward it to our sports provider for them to reconsider: - The actual time the game was delayed. - The exact score and countdown at 3:54 a.m. (UTC) on December 1, when the OP placed his bet. - The exact time the timer started running and the actual length of the game. Sincerely, TrustDice Team you write misleading users, you never answered my mail after sentencing me, it’s as if your mail is dead where you don’t answer anyone
Then why you've been ignoring him for the past 5 days?
Your sports provider wouldn't label OP as an abuser, they are not that stupid
because they don’t care about us, the players, they are sitting here to protect their reputation, nothing more, this is done so that new players come and leave money with them, they don’t care about me and you, judging by the behavior of @coinbox1, this is obvious _______________________________________________________________________________ __________ https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20221130/20221130_HOUDEN_book.pdf (OFFICIAL NBA SITE) go to the site nba.com and there will be match statistics, I will attach it now, I hope this is the right source for you _______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ Can this be considered evidence that the start time of the match was indicated in the official report of the NBA, on the site nba.com? https://imgur.com/a/ohe6Mh4https://imgur.com/a/W9u4Y8fMy bet was made at 8:53pm, match started at 7:10pm, 4th quarter started at 8:48pm, match ended at 9:13pm, match duration 2 hours 23 minutes, I think that's enough to understand everything. I do not know what time zone is indicated in the document. (Time is from NBA report file) I consider this the most official of the most official sources to prove all match times. |
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According to the terms and conditions of the TrustDice website, *19.4 In the event of any dispute, you agree that the server logs and records shall act as the final authority in determining the outcome of any claim. You agree that in the unlikely event of a disagreement between the result that appears on your screen and the game server, the result that was logged on the game server will prevail, and you acknowledge and agree that our records will be the final authority in determining the terms and circumstances of your participation in the relevant online gaming activity and the results of this participation.consequently the claims that were made against me are not true, according to the terms and conditions, I ask for my winnings to be withdraw to me.  |
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Nevertheless, OP's betting behavior clearly constitutes "late betting abuse" which is prohibited by our T&C. He captured some early- or pre-game odds that should have ceased to exist hours ago. In addition, OP's betting behaviors also violate our Sports Betting Rules: * In the case of any obviously incorrectly displayed or calculated prices, we reserve the right to void betting. This includes a deviation of more than 100% in the pay-out compared to the market average.* In the case of an incorrect settlement of markets, we reserve the right to correct them at any time.As a result, the overwhelming evidence suggests that OP is an abuser rather than a regular sports bettor. No legit sports bettor can pull this off. The bottom line is that OP somehow found a way to capture extremely favorable odds that are not supposed to be available at the time he bet it. And he managed to do it repetitively. Such odds do not exist for other players. This is by no means a regular sports bettor. Hope this helps. TrustDice Team I read your accusation in my favor and I’m just shocked by them, your accusations simply do not coincide with reality, if they were true your provider would have canceled my bets long ago, but now you already attribute to me that you can return the bet with the wrong odds or an error in the market, above, Mr. @poika1 gave you evidence that there is nothing wrong with my bet, it was not made at the end of the match, and without mistake, you are also trying to attribute new accusations to me, which is not entirely correct on your part, because now you are trying to catch on to any snag so as not to honestly pay me my winnings, honestly this is ridiculous, I'm just now watching the scene in the theater as the prosecutor is trying to accuse the victim of what he did not do, your messages simply do not match what is happening, please pay me my fair winnings and conduct honest business on your part, I am open to communication, I am ready to provide you with any information and prove to you my honesty, but to unfortunately, I see that you are trying your best to totally ignore me, which is not entirely correct of you, the trump cards are of course on your side, because in your possession is my winnings, which in my opinion you appropriated illegally, it’s very strange, @poika, I didn’t even know such services are what I cited as an example and figured out the bets, thank you very much friend, you obviously know more than the trustdice security service I also want to say @pmalek that I found this crypto casino here on bitcointalk, I registered here on November 3 and started looking for a good crypto casino, I saw that the casino is responsive and openly responds to players, makes contact (so I thought), I registered 6 -November 8 there and began to place bets |
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Didn't mean to be rude, but maybe you both want to dial it down a little on commenting on each others thread? Although your way-too-frequent exchange of comments is the reason that pushed me into curiosity and to look into Laki21000's thread and ultimately brings me to look for each cases against Trustdice, it's still... too much and borderline spamming the accusation board, IMO. Just try to dial it down a little if you two don't mind, ok?
No problem, I understand you, but how would you behave when you get scammed for ~2100$? without reasons and strong evidence, if you read all the branches, two topics, then you will not see something good that coinbox1 would write to doubt my words. You know, it's not every day that I get scammed for ~$2100 |
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