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1  Economy / Services / Re: {OPEN} Eloncoin Signature Campaign | Member+ [Funds Escrow] on: October 30, 2023, 05:00:18 PM
User: Dictator69
Position to Apply: Member
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BTC Address: bc1qd6w7jvym76xmky89vq0gaq6az524wzc5q4y3mf
Eloncoin Address: Soon

Applying for the first time, I will try my best if given the opportunity.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Ways to earn money in cryptocurrency? on: October 23, 2023, 08:05:27 PM
I hope you guys are doing well, I have spent some time here on BTT and learned many things, but I wanted to make money in crypto, so after searching more, I came to know about Signatures, Bounties, and faucets. But bounties need huge social media accounts, and many followers, signatures need rank, and faucets need huge fan following. I am not making excuses; I know earning money is not easy. By spending some time, I might be able to make money in 3 of the ways I mentioned but.

It would be a great help if any of you guys, would share some good ways to earn online money in BTC or in any token, not necessary to be from this forum but from other online platforms is also appreciate able, where we have to do some tasks (not surveys, they don't work here). I know my question might be off-topic, or might not be liked by most members, but still, I thought to create it, because many members have a lot of information, that they can share.

I am not being greedy or here for mainly money, simply asking community members to share their knowledge so we can help each other this topic will not only help me, but it will also help many. Please mention legit and those ways, that you have used for yourself and made a profit.

I tested many surveys, but did not end up good for me, many affiliate platforms, but they also need huge visitors, which I don't have so I left it. I know if anyone has a secret tip, he might not want to share it, but a side hustle is always proven to be good. Just to point out, I am already doing a job, but as I said, a side hustle is always good. You can share methods to earn in any type whether it is in BTC or in ALTs, whether it is mining apps, but should be legit ones. I hope I am not being too off-topic and annoying.
3  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 22, 2023, 05:31:34 PM
السلام علیکم و رحمتہ اللہ و برکاتہ
Wesy to Bhai ko reference Dena chahye Tha.
Bhai Agar ap online petrol prices dekhen gy to ap ko pata Laga Jaye Ga KY waqy hi petrol Ki qeematon my kami kar di Gai hy.
Source

Baqi masla ye hy Bhai KY ye Kam to 5 rupy karty hen lekn barha ye 10 rupy dety hen. Phr 10 barha kar phr 8 Kam karty hen to awam Khush ho jati hy. Lekn bad my dubara 16 rupyy barha dety hen.
Seriously, mai bi yehi pic istemal krny wala tha, jb petrol ki price oper gai thi, yaha tk ky mai ny post bi likh li thi lekin wo 1 hi baar my consective post nhi dal skty to mai ny soucha wait kr leta hoon phr jb koi reply dy ga to yeh news share kr doon ga, lekin phr mujhy yaad hi nhi aya, aj hi yaad aya mujhy.

ab to wesy hi faida nhi hai wo news share krny ka, lekin main ny yeh bi sunna hai ky petrol mazeed km ho rha hai, koi to yeh kh rha ky seedha 40 rs km ho ga, baat to wesy na mannay wali hai lekin mujhy umeed hai ky waqai km ho jai ga.

ab nawaz ny awam ko apny qaboo my jo krna hai. hr cheeez sasti bi to krni hai, or jb bi usy moqa mila us ny pakistan ka bhla kiya haha, kafi achi batain ki wesy  Wink wesy pta nhi sirf mujy lga ya waqai hi my thodha bohat groom ho kr aya tha, phly to isy pta hi nhi tha ky kya bolna or kya nhi lekin shaed ab is baar full home work kr ky aya hai. 5k dy rhy thy hamary ilaqay my jo inky sayj jalsy pr gya tha, or biyani bi.  Cheesy Cheesy
4  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 17, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
Jab Sy Imran khan Gaya haa yaha country Mai jungle ka qanoon Chal para haa , Ameer ammer-tar hoota ja raha ha aur ghareeb ghareeb-tar q ky tax sirf ghareebo ky liya aur laate chaarj , jail sabb aur Ameer pa koi tax Nahi Balky sarkaar ussy free petrol, light, security,etc to jab aise cheezy ho toh inn nuksaanat ko barny KY liya government ko ghareeb ko dabana toh pary ga. Well haamy haa bhi hamary collage sy Sary qualified PhD nikal Gai jab semi government hooky pension hi khatm karde so kehny ka MATLAB haa nuksaan ghareb teacher aur student ka ho raha haa unko difficulties Barr rahe haa aur time Ki ziyah ho raha ha aur ap ny teek kaha government ko step ly ky inke demand thoore bohout maane pary ge taaky bacho Ki parhai Jari rahy
Apki batain bilkul durust hain bohat sy sarkari mulazmin ko free petrol diya jata hai hta ky zati kamo ky liya bi or is cheez ko to apni ankho sy dekha hai mai ny, bohat sy log bijli chori krty pakdy gy or gas chori krty howy pakdy gai or un my sy zayda tr log to wo thy jo politics my thy. matlb ky system ky andr rhty howy system ki bank baja rhy hain or jb paisy or books pori krny ka time ata hai to inhy gareeb ki yaad a jati hai.

jb wo sary choor chori kr rhy thy, to us waqt bikli ka kharcha kasy pora kiya gta, dusry logo pr uska hissa dal diya gya.

bohat sy logo ny sucide tk kr liya yeh bijli ky pichy or ab yeh padhai ka mamla, wesy bi logo ka aetibar to padhai sy wesy hi khtm ho gya tha or jin 2 3 gerano ka rh chuka tha unko bi yeh log ab farig krny pr tuly hain. kash yaha koi islmic rehnuma hota jo is mulk my padhai ko aam kr pata. lekin 1 or nazar sy dekha jai to is cheez ki koi confirmation nhi hai ky kitna paisa bhrna padhy ka 9th 10th 11th and 12 th walo ko. Meri walda bta rhi thi ky sath waly gao my yeh ilan howa hai ky jis ny bi school ana hai 10 hazar ly kr ay phr padhain gy wrna nhi.

masla yeh hai ky jo teacher hota hai us bachy ki padhai ki fiqr ho to bacha unpadh nhi rhta, yaha sirf baat itni hai ky teacher ki nokriya jain gi shaed pension bi jai unko private sy kya paisy unho ny thodhy hi bhrny hain. jb hakoomat is baat pr agree ho gai ky apko ji azaihain milni thi wo mil jain gi to wo khud ba khud hi privatization ky khilaf mehm bnd kr dain gy. yaha yehi asool hai itna zulm hai bacho pr. Wesy bi yaar sarkari schoolo my padhai ky naam pr bs paisa hi tha teachers ka, bacho ko khna ky tution padhny ao hm waha apko sai padhain gy, or bacho ka time zaya krwana. 1 nazr sy to mujhy yeh step acha lga or yeh bi sunany my aya hai ky jo teacher arts wagera padh kr teacher lgain hain unko to wesy hi fairq kr dena hai. pta nhi is baat my kitna sach hai kitn ajhoot wo to khuda ji jany hmain to jo padhai ka nuksan ho rha us ki trf dekhna chahiya.
5  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 16, 2023, 09:54:39 AM
Electrum is a Desktop wallet magar iski apk version bi available haa orr app usko bi use akr sakte hain.. Electrum UI maa lightweight haa itna UI friendly and attractive nai haa magar ye zyada reliable haa as compare to the Trust wallet, main khud Trust ko akfi time see use akr raha tha magar in recently main abi Electrum ko use karna start kia haa. Hardware k sath bii use kar sakte isko..
sirf confirm krna chahta hoo, Electrum ki to Android google playstore pr app hai, mtlb hm is app ko playstore sy download kr sktain hai to hamain apk download krny ki kya zarorat hai. ap ny apni pic my bi ji difference diya hai us ky mutabiq electrum ik desktop wallet hai jb ky yeh 1 mobile wallet bi hai. ya my ghlt smj rha hoon.

mai inki apni website pr gya, waha sy dekha ky hm android pr isy download kr skty hain or apple wali device pr download nhi kr skty, bs confirm kr dena ky mai google play store sy jo electrum download kr rha hoon kya wo thik hai mtlb real bi hai ya koi or download kiya ja rha hoon, logo blue hai or electrum technologies GmbH likha howa hai company name my.

Mai bi is ko expereince krny ki souch rha tha, to apki post yaad agai, lekin ap ny to confusion my daal diya. Please help here.
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 16, 2023, 09:47:43 AM
I don't want to get into too many details in this thread, and sure there likely are variations from country to country, but also sometimes there could be rogue actors who work for the companies too (at the employee level that end up getting access to such information and they could be part of the problem).
It's your choice, and it's a good one, because, it would be considered as off-topic, well, process of registering do vary from country to country and the bad actors within the company are the ones that might be compromised by the hackers or are with the hackers and working in group. Such attacks, still occur in today world, but I think to only those, who easily become victim of phishing sites or links.
hackers are able to stay up-to-date on some of the latest and greatest of possible vulnerable areas.
Hackers are the most up to dated persons alive on earth, I have read many topics here on BTT, in which hackers and scammers found many news ways of scamming the other party, and those who don't know those scam types can easily become victim. In order to remain safe, we should get up to date too.
Sometimes they might not need very much information because if they get one or two of the passwords to your e-mail, and then they change the e-mail password and then they might log into various websites in which recovery of the password is the e-mail or the phone.. so
I recently talking to my father about Pi, you might be aware of Pi, he said, he remembers his wallet password because he used the same password at all places, and I forgot it because I use different passwords, well, first I thought the solution to this problem you have mentioned would be to use different passwords, but yeah, if we have saved all the passwords on single email, and if that email is gone then all the passwords saved on it are also gone. You just wake me up by saying this.
Sure there can be ways to use different e-mails for resetting or even using various authenticators and/or UBKey type devices that would make it more difficult for an attacker to get into as many accounts.. and using Sms authentication does tend to be a weak point when hackers get your phone number.

Indeed, we should definitely avoid accounts build on phone numbers, but email is more vulnerable to such attacks.
I was not really talking about shitcoins, so the framework could be that as long as you understand that you can lose 100% of your bitcoin investment, then you should be able to invest (or position size) according to that understanding.  In other words, each of us should be prepared for the possibility that bitcoin could go to zero... so if we invest accordingly, we still could end up profiting a lot, even though we were prepared for the possibility that we might not profit.
You will be shocked, even before reading your post, I was watching IG and, in a video, Laszlo was interviewed and said, he sold 10k BTC for 2 Pizza. It's not that I don't know about him, it's just due to that video, an idea came up in my mind that, when Laszlo made an announcement of selling the 10k BTC for 2 Pizza, (and I know that post is made here on BTT, I searched it all).

I thought, what if he just wrote 100 BTC for 2 pizza or at least he would have written 5k BTC for 2 Pizza, I think he would still have remaining amount till now, and I don't know why but I am sure that if he would write 5K for 2 pizzas then he would still got a deal with some member. But as you said, when someone does not think from both the good and bad angle, he makes such mistakes, and do the unexpected things. The same might happen with those, who are blindly coming into the BTC and ignoring the risk factor. A skeptical mindset always saves you from some of the loss.
At least you should be making sure to monitor your cashflows, and if your expenses are in some kind of a fiat, it is good to make sure that you project out your cashflows for 6 to 24 months..
That's a lot of savings, I never saved that much money that could run me (including my family) for 6 to 24 months, Instead, I don't think I can even save that much money. Because I just came to realize that the money that we need for the 4 months is around $1200 (in my country). If things go right, and we face no medical situations or any other type of disaster. And I don't know how much money I would be needed in any medical situation and how any other person would have predict that. But yeah, it is wise to have some funds for emergency.
Yes, I am sure some of the frameworks that "influencers" use are better than others.. and repackaging of good ideas does seem to happen, whether here or through some of the influencers, and surely whether you are communicating with me or you are considering what any influencer is saying, there are likely some times when you will disagree with parts, but you might not exactly know why right away, but surely the back and forth can create for some kinds of active and interactive learning where you end up learning more because you engaged in some back and forth, some skepticism, some critical thinking and probably overall trying to apply the ideas to your own ideas and/or practices.
OMG, you are talking exactly like them (motivators).  Cheesy Cheesy well, there is no doubt in the words I have bolded. Because I also had this mindset that, if we are at the same position even after a year then we are not being productive with our life, and we have to try another thing or put more efforts in the thing we were doing before, I used to motivate my siblings, with this statement, that if you would have started to engage with the people of your field/skill then you will end up learning more after a year. I can use my own example here, I used to be a noob, but reading posts and by making replies to them, I learnt a lot and I can say for sure that, I am not at that position (of noob) where I was at the time of joining this forum. Cool

Yes.. maybe I assumed that once a person has already decided that s/he is getting into bitcoin, then that person is largely considering position size and how to advance from being able to invest $10 per week and getting up to a higher amount, such as $100 per week.. S/he already had the conviction, and surely there are so many people who do not have conviction, and maybe they still might choose to invest $10 per month because of their skepticism...
You just said the words of my heart, I recently read a topic, and in that topic, OP said "Just buy bitcoin and hold your own keys or else you are going to get scammed" and many posters emphasize the cruelty and differences of the people living in the same world. Many people grow a lot due to their skepticism while other are not able to grow for the same skepticism. It is really hard to predict the reason, but at least taking risk is what worth most.
I am glad that we got that cleared up, then.

I tend to write the vast majority of my posts on a computer.  It can be a bit difficult to type very much on a mobile device, unless maybe there might be a keyboard or an ability to use reliable diction.
Yeah, it is hard to edit long posts, so I try to reply to you when I am on laptop. I can see that you must be on laptop, that's why you are able to make lengthy posts too.
7  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 16, 2023, 08:19:23 AM
__SNIP__

Behteen ala.. Zabardast.. bass Subject ani change karo please ....
Chaloo abii post quality increase kiyee dete hainn in just simple 2 steps... Stop posting Shit news () just for merits Political yaa non crypto related News koo share karna baand karr dain haamra thread Quality maa top paa aa jyee gaaa.

Mujhe nai Pata kis kis koo buraaa lagee gaa kis kis koo. nai meria dat nai news read karna yahan forum paaa.

⚠️ Koi crypto related topic haa aooo discuss akrtee hain apko guide bi akrain gee.
⚠️ Koi information topic haa related to any domain not Only crypto its freelancing anything isko bii consider akr saktee.
⚠️ App new discussion ka liaa contribute karo Question karo answer karo jo apko pata be natural.
⚠️ Guide newbies / even if you are not much experienced jitna pata haa otna batao..
⚠️ Aik News kii Headlign + 1 Photo + 1 ordnianry explanation + 1 source (Perfect Spaming)

Agar esi discussion paa apko support nai miltii too batao.. 90% esi posts koo main khud read karta jo ka discussion engaging hoti koi baat kisi koo achii large gii apko support bii akree gaa with merits and appreciation. Mainn point number 5 wali posts koo 99% ignore karta hunn.
Ap ny badhi thik batain ki oper, kafi achi bi lgi, mai ny jo cheez yaha notice ki hai, wo yeh hai ky, jutny bi newbies ya fr asy log jo senior rank sy nichy hain wo tamam ky tamam mujhy mila kr, dosri news bi share krty hain, jasa ky supports ki, politics ki to itni dekhai nhi deti, zayda tr ZeeshanRandhwa ki postain dekhai deti hai. Wesy meri inspiration bi wohi hain. 4 5 din phly mai ny unka account dekha to dekh kr heran rh gya ky unky pakistan my jitny bi postain hain un my 99% to sirf news hi hain.

mai yeh nhi kh rha ky yeh ghlt ha ya sai, mai bs ankho dekha hal bta rha, to mai to khair un sy motivate howa tha, lekin profile dekhny ky baad idea howa ky unki postain sirf hai hi news related, crypto ya blockchain technology my new trend ko wo follow nhi kr rhy. Shaed my ny unko postain mis bi kr di hoon.

Lekin apki bato ko made nazr rkhty howy wo bhai to bilkul low quality postain kr rhain hain. wesy jb mai ny is community my apni phli post ki thi to drty drty ki thi, lekin moqa acha dekh ky kr dali. or ahista ahista kafi kuch seekhta gya, or ab kisi ko reply dena ho ya koi post krni ho to dr nhi lgta. beshak meri kutty wali hi ku na ho.  Cheesy Cheesy

wo drasl abhi abhi meri 1 topic pr foji training howi hai jaha mujhy kafi roast kiya gya, mai ny drasl wo admins ky pass kitny btc hain wo wali post bna dali soucha yeh 1 interesting news ya fact  ho ga logo ky liya lekin kuch to log bs apki krny ky liya itna andha ho jaty hain ky wo yeh dekhty hi nhi ky wo khud ghlt bol rhain hain.

meri bi yehi koshish hoti hai ky discussion my participate kro lekin baat jo talukh hai lekin haqeqt hai wo yeh ky replies pr to merit nhi milty or news share krny pr milty hain or asa nhi mera yeh zehn nhi hota ky yeh post pr merit nhi mily gain. mera zehn hota hai ky mily gain lekin agr na mily to koi baat nhi, ku ky abhi tk to mera purpose news ko share kr ky logo ky idea lena hai ky wo kya souchty hain is bary my.

apki batain 100 taka thik hain mai apni pori koshish kro ga in ko follow krny ki. or agr meri koi asi post hai jo off topic hai to usy mention kr dijiga, ta ky ainda na kro.
8  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 14, 2023, 06:53:38 AM
bhai. kisi project k bare me post kro to uske related links bi include kr dia krna. that would be very helpful for us who want to learn more about the projects. waisay ye 3 month purani news hai.
https://islamic-coin.net/  yeh lain dear mai add kr deta hoon, maybe apko zeeshan sy reply na mily ky ky wo yaha ky AI BOT hain, sirf new share hi krny aty hain agr pichy kya discussion ho rhi un cheezo my km hi participate krty hain. shaed time ki kmi ki waja sy. khair asa nhi hai ky my news share nhi krta, abhi thodhi dair pehly ki hai share news mai ny.

dear wesy ap to kafi phly ky member ho, kasa experience rha apka is forum pr. apko to read tag bi dy rkha hai. lekin behak hamain positive cheezo ki trf dekhna chahiya jasy hamain aghly insan ki ghltiya nhi achaiya dekhni chahiya wesy hi mai apky negative ky sath positive ko bi dekh rha mashaAllah agr negative hain to postive bi to hain na. kya frq padhta hai. mujhy umeed hai ap meri bato ko zayda serious nhi lain gy ku kyy wesy hi pouch liya or bta diya tag kr bary my.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DCA vs Zone Specific Strategies While Accumulation of Bitcoins on: October 14, 2023, 06:46:48 AM
Prepare the Emergency Funds:

You also Point out this thing here even you learn it from here which is really good thing like we learn from each other experiences we had in our daily life. what you learn you share here with us. You had done your best part to emphasis to always be ready for the emergency fund  for those who are putting their all funds for the Bitcoin accumulation blindly. like, they don't spread out some of their money aside so that they will be able to use it in the emergency situation or whenever they need it.

At the end i would say OP, keep bringing here informative topics like this. Reading these kinda threads may help newbies to learn and groom their self at the same time. 
This forum is really great in this manner my friend, because I got to learn a lot about crypto and BTC, just by reading posts and replying to them. And the best part, where we learn more is when someone writes a word which is not in y mind's dictionary. I mean new to me. So, what I simply do is go to Google and search about it and read about it, and while reading it, I get to know about more terms. Is that not awesome?

And the accumulation and emergency funds are the terms, about which I get to be familiar with recently by jayjuangee. I can see you were also active there and the OP was too, I think from that topic we all get to know about this new information. I don't know if you have any experience, or if you are also like me. I would like to ask; did you make your first purchase of BTC till yet or not? Well, I am still making enough money but, in this inflation, I was able to make only $30 but saved in local currency. I hope to buy some BTC from the gladiator (our local community guy as he is making p2p) But for that, I will wait to see his legitimacy.

Oops, I was going 0ff-topic. The thing is, we should definitely have emergency funds otherwise we will be devastated, I recently made a reply to JJG, and you should read that, in my post history. You will get to know more if you will read all the replies we had.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many BTC does the Forum's Administrators Have? on: October 14, 2023, 06:39:39 AM
OP, I think the number you are showing isn't correct. They have more Bitcoin then you can imagine. They are the early adopters of Bitcoin and this forum. They know about Bitcoin more than anybody. Of course, they won't be showing off their Bitcoin to the public. Bitcoin is about privacy and anonymity. Satoshi made sure it remains that way.
You are right my friend, the numbers of BTC I have written in the post, are not only they have, but at the time of creating this topic, I knew that. So, that's why to make things clear, I wrote in my post that, what method, I am using to extract the addresses of the admins and staff. I simply visited each's profile and there was an address mentioned there, so I simply copied and pasted it, pasted it on block Chair Explorer and copied the received BTC amount, and pasted it here in my post.

It did take me some time, but the purpose, was not to show that they (admins) have only these amounts of BTC, but the purpose was to show how many BTC they might have in their mentioned addresses on their profiles. I hope you understand my pinpoint here.

And yeah, BTC is about privacy, and I did not talk about each admin's or staff's personal life, I just mentioned the respected address they already made publicly available for us to see, which means there are no privacy concerns or norms I have broken by making this post, BTC provides privacy but transparency both at the same time. You should know that.

The address I have written in front of each admin or staff does not tell us about their personal life, how they look, where do they live, etc. but the transparency factor tells us that this address has received this much BTC and sent this much. I mean, that's open for all of us to see. I don't know what all members are whining about, but maybe I think I made mistake by creating this topic.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 14, 2023, 06:16:17 AM
I made conscious decisions to leave value with both Bitfinex and BTC-e.. .. and there were times in which I changed my mind about how much BTC I was keeping with various third parties, and also coming to find out about how easy sim attacks make people vulnerable .. and they are still going on now... but in 2017, they were less common, but I probably should have realized a bit better regarding the sim swap attack vector.. .. so then if something like that ends up happening, there are ways to change some approaches in order to make funds less vulnerable to that attack vehicle, even though, sometimes, some funds might still be vulnerable through other attack mechanism.
We all make mistakes and put trust in things, in which we should not. I was not aware of the sim swap attack (basically from the term) but it really is scary, that someone could steal your phone number, but I am curious how a scammer would do that because to do that, a scammer would need some basic information. For example, In our country, when we have to change the number of one sim to another sim or to another number, it is compulsory for the real owner of the sim to be present at the franchise, (we cannot do that from home) and there we have to verify our fingerprints and then we are given the new sim with the same or new number (that depends on our need). I don't know how things work on your side, but I would love to know.

I did search about SIM swap attacks and how we can avoid them, what I found is:

  • Use of multi-signature wallet
  • hardware wallet
  • not making accounts on phone numbers

And talking about other attacks, like hacking attempts i.e., phishing links etc, that's what you are talking about?

Some losses are BIGGER than others, and frequently there are ways to protect yourself even when taking risks, but one of the things about risks is that we don't always realize some of the risks that we are taking or we assign the wrong values and might end up with losses from which are more difficult to recover... financially and/or psychologically...
You are damn right, we take risk, and we don't even have idea that we are taking one, the best example I am seeing in current time is, many new investors of BTC, are investing in BTC and saying that they will make profit for sure as they think halving is coming and their funds will be doubled or tripled. But what I think is, they are ignoring the risk factor it has. Market's history is so obvious that, anyone would be convinced that market will go up but nobody sees at the risk side. I think they should realize it before it is too late for them.


There are a lot of ways that people go through and deal with losses, and surely if all of the value was ONLY in BTC, then there might be more devastation.. but if the person had various other non-btc investments (such as stocks, properties, bonds and cash) that might have had been equal to 20 or 30 BTC at the time that s/he lost the 20 BTC, then there still is a nestegg of value in some other location.. so the loss in terms of half of the BTC portfolio might seem large in the short term, but there are various other reserve assets in other places... so such loss is not totally devastating.. only partially devastating..
You are talking about diversification, and I agree with you on this, I have read about diversification strategy to minimize the risk in making investments and also aware of its perks. I sometimes, think, a person who is in BTC, might not have enough funds to make investments in other types, but what solution I have is, to keep that extra amount in cash, because, like you said those who will have all of their capital and savings in BTC, have to face devastation. So, a person should know the difference between capital and savings and they should at least keep their savings in the form of fiat. What do you think? 

one of the funny things about bitcoin (or maybe any other greatly appreciating asset, that sometimes very large mistakes can be made, but mostly HODLers/accumulators still can end up making money, even if they might have made less money from their mistakes, they still can end up making money in some kinds of scenarios, as long as they don't get totally reckt, and this case, holding onto half of the BTC was part of the explanation for the devastation not being as bad as it could have had been.
Agreed.

I surely am not of the perspective that anyone should be waiting... but instead if such person does not have an emergency fund in place and does not have very many back up resources, then s/he can still invest into bitcoin, but just take a smaller position size while s/he is working on shoring up various ways to draw from emergency funds.  
Agreed, because many people do wait and totally depends on the investments, they have made in BTC like they think they would become millionaire overnight. The reality is a man has to push harder and break the limits he has set for himself. In simple words, we should not remain in our comfort zone, and should take risks and not depend on that risk only but we should work on other opportunities. Really mate you have an entrepreneurial mindset, like those financial motivators on TikTok (I hope you won't mind TikTok Cheesy Cheesy as many people hate when someone compares them with TikTok stars) or on any social media platform. Trying hard to motivate new generations.

so maybe instead of investing $100 per week into bitcoin, you only invest $10 per wee into bitcoin and use the other $90 per week to get your other shit together.. and so maybe it takes you 1-2 years before you can get your shit together sufficiently enough that you can move your weekly investment size up to $100 per week, but in the meantime, you had been investing $10 per week while you were putting in order other aspects of your financial and psychological life.
But there is one more side of this, for example, a person is losing shit, have enough money to feed himself and the family, or whatever other basic needs he has to fill, after that, if that person not able to safe funds or able to safe funds, one thing came up to his/her mind. And that is skepticism, they just don't want to take risk and want to leave that circle that they draw around themselves. I hope you are getting my point here. And this happens due to the doubt, ambiguity and fear in their minds and hearts, they know they might not bear the risk's results.


So, I think that it is better to error on the side of getting started bitcoin sooner rather than later, even if you have various messes in your life that you simultaneously having to actively work upon.

Sorry to cause so much work upon you.... hahahahaha.....yeah.. sometimes there are no real needs to respond further.
nah, that's actually not that much work for me to read your posts, instead it is kind of good, and while reading and writing to you, I don't keep track of time, and once I finished writing to you then I think, I spend this much time (just to clarify, I actually not spend that much time like hours). Like, now, I am still replying late, but this time the reason was work, and the tiredness of work. But today I was free so I thought I should reply you, it's not that I was not making posts, I was, but to read your replies, I have to be on laptop, because on laptop, it becomes easy to edit the reply.  Smiley
12  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 14, 2023, 05:37:22 AM
Police arrest teachers and Students for protesting across Punjab.


police na Lahore ma 100 sa ziada log jin ma teachers bhi han unko arrest karlia hai . Faislabad ma logo na police pr pathar bi mare gujjaranwala gujjrat Bhawalpur ka teachers bhi roads pr ehtijaj ka lie nikal pre han. Is silsale mai schools ki prhai 3 roz ka lie nhi hugi jiska students pr prhai ka bht asar pre ga. Patugi mai teacher na classrooms ko tale laga diye q ka vu chahte han ju government ne teachers ki salary mai incharcement ki changes ka bare ma apna gussa dekha sake. Teachers or ustads sb ne dibti kamishner ka office ka samne ehtijaj kia ye sb teachers chahte han ke government apna ye mutalba wapis le len.

Wo mutalaba yeh hai ky, chhution aur pension rolls (serves rolls) main taramim wapas lein sarkari schoolon ko private jo kiya ja rha usky khilaf yeh protests ho rhain hain. aur retirement par unhein group insurance dain.

Baki sb students ki bi study zaya hu rhi ha or sab teachers ko bhtt mushkal hu rhi hai is sab ki vaja sa. islie government ko apna ye notification wapis le lena chahiye. Ap logo ko to idea hai hi ky Pakistan ky halat kasy hain, agr in logo ny government schools ko private kr diya to gareeb ka to bacha hi padh nhi pai ga, shaed yeh hakoomat yehi chahti hai ky gareeb ko or daba diya jai, or ameer ko hi sari azaishain di jain.  Ap logo ka iss bary my kya khiyal hai. Or mazay ki baat hai ky yeh qoum in teachers ky sath asa to kr hi rhi hai sath hi sath my un pr lathi bi charge kr rhi hai, hamary ilaqay ky 1 sarkari teacher ko kafi mara police ny, or pichly 3 din sy to study bi nhi ho rhi hamary ilaqay ky schools my, sirf governments schools main.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2023/10/13/protests-against-privatization-of-schools-amends-in-service-rules-spread-across-punjab/
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many BTC does the Forum's Administrators Have? on: October 13, 2023, 09:35:36 AM
You must learn a basic,
I was aware of it and made this post as a fun, like I thought it would be fun for other members to know about it.
Forum admins, moderators have their Bitcoin addresses on their profiles to get donations or salary.
I did not know that thanks for the information. Cheesy but just to clear, I do know that they would have more than one addresses which might not be listed here, that's why I wrote the way of finding how many BTC they have on the addresses which are mentioned on their profiles only.


I can imagine how the time it took you to go through each of the administrators BTC scanned addresses just to provide this information. One thing you should be aware OF is that most persons prefer being isolated and prefer hiding their asset in another wallet so no one will know the amount of their Bitcoin holding. The Bitcoin addressed you scanned might be one that can be seen by the public but there is this special wallet that hold most of their portfolio. I can't believe mprep will have 0 amount of Bitcoin holding.
Agreed, I was aware of all of it, but I just forgot to mention in my post that this post is for fun only but I did mention the way of finding the addresses which would have given this idea to those who would have read it full. But thanks for your feedback.  Kiss
14  Other / Beginners & Help / What is the meaning of this section on Bpip on: October 12, 2023, 07:07:05 PM
I was using the BPIP tool and was getting familiar with it, and checked my profile and the section in the pic below was a little confusing for me, especially the lower part in which it says. "Last Parsed: 8 minutes (Planned for 23 hours from now)" What is the meaning of it?
Like what does parse mean here? And what does plan for 23 hours mean here. Please do not judge my English, I thought it would be better if I asked this question here. I hope you all won't mind me.
15  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 10, 2023, 08:01:28 PM
Brother baat to apki bilkul theek hai mai b agree krta ho. Agar dakha jayee yaa sub countries non Muslim hai non Muslim ki hee support krain gi. Baat rahi America ki wo to bhariyaa hai jo hr jaga tang pansata hai apni. Apko yaad hoga ak interview mai unho ny imran khan sy pocha b tha k agar hum ap logo sy morchy mangain taky hum Afghanistan par humlain kr skain to kiya ap dain gy

Then he replied Absolutely no. Baki brother ap ny post complete nai ki apki post jasy ky par aa kr khtm ho gyee maybe ap bhool gye hongy laikn ab edit kr k us mai news platform add kr dain ta t hum log b wahee sy news read kiya krain instead of that k hum asy platform ko support krain jo yahoodiyoo ko support krain Shukriyaa Smiley Smiley
Gee brother meri souch to yehi thi ky waha kuch platforms ky naam likh doon lekin yaad nhi rha. so thanks yaad dilwany ky liya. drasl subha free betha tha to soucha koi post daal do jai or jb news open ki to pta chla ky cointelegraph jis ko mai follow krta hoon wo israel ko support kr rha hai, to kafi dukh to howa lekin ab mai isy chodh doon ga insha Allah.

Kher in sab my Jahan US ata wahan Russia apni taang arata hy. Wesy to Russia Shayad Palestine ko support na Karta lekn US ko Medan my dekh kar Russia ny BHI Kaha KY wo Palestine KY sath hy.

Kher ye Abhi tak Ki situation sy pata Laga raha hy ye BAAT barhti jaa rahi hy. Or koi nai jaanta KY ye Kahan jaa kar ruky gi. Allah tmam Muslmano Ki ghaibi mdad farmaye.
Mujhy is cheez ka idea nhi tha ky russia palestine ky hq mai jai ga. agr wo is waja sy ja rha hai ky US israel ky haq mai hai to bohat achi baat hai, or kya chahiya. ab umeed hai ky is mulk ky hukmarano ki bi aqal jaag uthy or wo bi un ky liya kuch krny ky liya koi program open krain. or apka shukriya yeh information share krny ky liya.
16  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 10, 2023, 04:53:06 AM
Cointelegraph has declared to support the Israel

Mai ny yeh news dekhi cointelegraph pr or kafi heran howa ky cointelegraph is supporting Israel wesy is my heran hony wali baat hai to nhi kuky wo konsa muslim platform hai. Lekin kafi dukh howa ky mai ik asy platform ko support kr rha tha jo israeliyo ko support krny ka mindset rkhta hai. Jb ky isy yeh bi pta hai ky israel walo ny kitna zulm kiya hai Palestine pr.

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A collective of local leaders in the cryptocurrency space, including 42Studio, MarketAcross, Collider Ventures, CryptoJungle, Nilos, Blockchain B7, Efficient Frontier, Ironblocks, the Israel Blockchain Association, Bits of Gold, as well as Cointelegraph, have joined together to establish Crypto Aid Israel, a global fundraiser to help displaced Israeli citizens in need of humanitarian aid.
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Khair yeh sary US base platforms hain or jasy ky US ny officially palestine ko support krny ka ilan kr diya hai wesy hi yeh platforms bi support krain gy.

In logo ny israel ki support and aid ky liya yeh 1 website bnai hai jaha pr wo donations wagera dy kr unki help krna chahty hain. Mera is cheez pr jo khiyal or souch hai wo mai yaha azhar nhi kr rha. Or mai koi asa bnda bi nhi hoon jo ky sirf is cheez ki waja sy cheezo ko chodh dy ky yeh bahir waly mulk yani yahodiyo ki hain.

Lekin jo mulk haq wali cheez ki khilaf warzi kry or islam ky khilaf agendas kry uski to products ko istemal krna hi fazool hai. So ap sy guzarish to nhi kroon ga ku ky yeh apki apni mrzi hai ky aya ap isy istemal krna chahty hain ya nhi. Lekin mai kho ga ky is ko ab na hi use kiya jain to bhtr hai or is ky braqs ap similar platforms ko news hasil krny ky liya dekh sktain hain jasy ka:

Coindesk as uska founder 1 muslim hai name is Shakil Khan naam sy to muslim hi lg rha lekin agr ap waqai mai cointelegraph ka alternative dekhna chahty hain to yeh thik hai, or jb coindesk israel ky support my jai ga to isy bo chodh dain gy tb tk jo marzi use krain. Thanks snowpega for correction.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many BTC does the Forum's Administrators Have? on: October 08, 2023, 08:17:06 PM
Well this is Public information, but there is the possibility that they own more Bitcoin in some unpublished address, who knows?

I've doing something similar but with the address of all users in the forum, and yes there is a lot of Bitcoin changing hands here
I will be waiting for your work to see, and indeed one member would have another address that is not linked to this forum. Totally agreed.


I understand that some members have no reason to hide their Bitcoin holdings, but I see no reason to make it public either. For example, I have nothing to hide, but I still want to exercise my right to privacy. No one needs to know how many Bitcoins I have in my possession, just as no one needs to know how much money I have in the bank or in a private safe.
Then don't use BTC blockchain because on BTC blockchain everything is transparent. Either you want to or not, it depends on you, in simple words, those who have mentioned there BTC addresses on their profiles are the ones who don't care about the privacy of hose wallets. After getting know about the privacy levels from cantasy, I came to know that we can obfuscate our TXs so no one would trace us. If you want to remain hide, then don't connect your wallet with your profile otherwise anyone can see how many BTC you have in your wallet by searching it on explorer.  I hope you will not mind my words.

And a matter of fact, banks know your personal life, and how much amount you have and can use that information for advertisement purposes, but BTC blockchain will not do such thing. So don't be worried while you are using BTC because your personal life is totally saved unless someone knows that this address belongs to you.


Hmm, Interesting trying to figure are you defending the OP or Opposing him,
I think he is defending me.
, as on blockchain information is public, what matters is your identity and I'm sure OP cant mention their identity.
Thank God, at least you know how BTC blockchain work, not being rude, but I was in some confusion after reading the reply of
Stalker22. Which was confusing but helpful too.
Even someone can post a full list of wallets having X number of Bitcoin using any API or filter on the Blockchain's data.. besides that OP seems like you've put a lot of effort into coming up with an idea, for the next time I would suggest finding more specific informational content. Best of Luck  Cheesy Cheesy.
How would I find the amount of BTC using API, can you share some details please, I would love to know about it. I actually did not spend that much time, or I think I did not notice it, because it was a fun for me, I really enjoyed in getting familiar that this member is our admin and moderator and wow he has that much BTC and what! he has no BTC at all. These was my reactions and so I thought the same reactions would be of other members. But I don't think many members really liked this post.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many BTC does the Forum's Administrators Have? on: October 08, 2023, 05:15:49 PM
Hey man. Well personally I dont believe we have anything to gain from knowing how much BTC anyone owns.
What you think is worth to gain anything. I am not being rude at least not trying to be. But I got excited and tried to see how many BTC they have, while I was checking how many BTC they have, I thought I should make this topic, and should share it with others too.
However, take into consideration that anyone can own the keys that lead to multiple addresses.
I already stated this in my post, that I have followed a way of finding how any BTC they had on their addresses which are mentioned on their profiles. I hope you read that.
Finally, if anyone owns many bitcoins, good for them. Concentrate on your goals and make sure to educate yourself. Of course this applies to many areas in life.
I am concentrating on my goals, which honestly, I don't think what are here on BTT, but I got excited to know, and I when knew then thought to share it. Nothing more, and this is not something personal that I have shared here, because all the information is already public. but thanks for your feedback.

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Dude, they can create a new wallet address that they have never posted or it’s not connected to their account and deposit some of their coin there which means this your post is totally wrong.
If that argument makes my post wrong, then I was already wrong, because I already said in my post that
It is possible that these administrators might have other addresses containing more BTC, but my way is simple.
I went to each profile and checked the address mentioned there on blockchair for the amount of BTC they have received or sent.
Which means the same. I don't know either people of this forum read the full post or not. not being rude just asking.

It takes less than 10 minutes to setup a bitcoin wallet and for people that have stayed in the forum so a long period of time and know so much about privacy and security it will be easy peasy for them to move their coins into their main wallet without anyone being able to trace the transaction to the new address,
I also have tried to make a BTC wallet and yeah it took less than 10 min, and I did not know that it is hard people to trace their funds, as you said it is hard for people to trace them, I will look into it, but I did not meant to say, that they have only these BTC in their possession, instead I was trying to say they have this much BTC in there profile mentioned addresses. In a fun way.  

so just take a can of soda and focus on more relevant things rather than waste time on people’s money that of no use to us.
I did not think that I have to share something that should be of great use to your all guys. I thought it would be fun to know about such things. And as far as your concerns for relevancy, if it was irrelevant, then the moderators would have moved it to the relevant section or might have deleted it. Don't you think.
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I think OP just tried to show the results of those address which is attached here on BitcoinTalk which may accurate But the fact we really don't know anyone's portfolio actually what amount of BTC they Hodling and accumulating.
Exactly, thanks for supporting my words, I thought all members are high here  Cheesy
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How Many BTC does the Forum's Administrators Have? on: October 06, 2023, 08:04:36 PM
I was reading some topic few days ago, and that topic led me to this post of LoyceV where I read that, theymos address has 750 BTC and I did not believe it. Then I checked the theymos profile, and an address was mentioned there, and I checked it on blockchair explorer and found out that, there are 2 addresses connected to it one is of BCH and one is of BTC. Well, on checking, he has around 388.96 BTC. Then I came to get the idea of finding out how many BTC does the administrators of this forum have. It is possible that these administrators might have other addresses containing more BTC, but my way is simple.

I went to each profile and checked the address mentioned there on blockchair for the amount of BTC they have received or sent.

Well, here is the list of administrators I have found when I was reporting a message in my last topic .

  • Cyrus--1ASUtuHN5KHzm3t7BNXjLeZBZK65D3DrNR  Number of BTC Received= 11.18626505 BTC
  • hilariousandco-- 3Pq1njf9QsntNxaNHSnt1MRRCgvHNv9oco  Number of BTC Received= 5.919296 BTC
  • mprep-- 3Dk152szgAebDq7VUPXLqxsTYm2Z4XqX5f  Number of BTC Received= 0 BTC  Tongue
  • Mr. Big-- 1GKXB7fYGXAadovDzLebD4Ds6cbx5CdTAE  Number of BTC Received= 4.18533532 BTC
  • theymos-- 1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD  Number of BTC Received= 388.96200792 BTC  Cool

After checking the profiles of administrators, I came to conclude that, theymos has the most of the BTC and as per LoyceV's Post, which I stated above, theymos has around 755 BTC on that address. But that address is not the one that is mentioned on the theymos's profile. So, I cannot say anything about it.

To be honest, I thought the administrators might have thousands of BTC in their holding as they are the ones who made it this far from the start. But I think they don't have that much BTC, or I might be missing the right addresses to check. And I don't really think mprep has none BTC, he might not have written his main account in his profile.

PS: I hope I did not miss any administrator or consider any moderator as an administrator. I did find another good thread consisting of all the moderators, admins, and staff. ( List of the forum's admins/ global moderators/ staffs

So, I thought I should also check the address of the Staff too and should add how much BTC they have received at the addresses they have mentioned on their profiles.

  • -ck -- bc1q7acmav3wyxqqq4cdwtf3a7fh569ujcquxvefd6  Number of BTC Received= 0.33743833 BTC
  • achow101-- bc1qypj0d5z37syl3l9962v4p9p42el09hdhd8ayrc  Number of BTC Received= 0.02950067 BTC
  • Adriano-- 32PxGqk7FkADJ4Q1Zkh5CP5UHBanQsTMvu  Number of BTC Received= 0.05256382 BTC
  • Anon11073-- 32NctAtYszp2gduMDFKgqbFiY2PjchS6AJ  Number of BTC Received= 0.29174984 BTC
  • Barcode_-- 1J3KruLBLqK6zAMMJtjKc55qJyN3z47WUf  Number of BTC Received= 1.55347947 BTC
  • dbshck-- bc1qxw4n7gy9x8x2x4kxcc7ve688eh768h8yzyzlcz  Number of BTC Received= 0.19953026 BTC
  • EFS-- bc1qkpwlc02srj73a382k25x5xdpy9adph7wa2vyaz  Number of BTC Received= 0.14058284 BTC
  • Halab-- bc1qsy4usnqcs94nx25z43y859f7xz23f78awnxl2u  Number of BTC Received= 1.04159094 BTC
  • HostFat-- 1CHQHCENZPncS2rjiT4CEXWx7wJeq3cS2X  Number of BTC Received= 0.72127406 BTC
  • gmaxwell-- bc1qwv07swd7xru8e8u07sjccptqmmnf8sqgdtn6am  Number of BTC Received= 0.00408933 BTC
  • malevolent-- 34tAEd9qx6dwY2frG56hweF7NMhA3b68Z4  Number of BTC Received= 0.03652254 BTC
  • OmegaStarScream-- bc1q9vz8segfzph88kmxct447zgws6kehjf72a0rd9  Number of BTC Received= 0.00024535 BTC
  • sapta-- 1777777vibDywVGuioASat4vq5B5eJXPbg  Number of BTC Received= 1.82112707 BTC
  • Wangbus -- No address associated amazing thing is, he has only 13 merits. I guess to become staff merits doesn't count Cheesy
  • Welsh-- 3At8U5ukEyutshrdMd7m2UHVhShmcSEnwq  Number of BTC Received= 3.68869342 BTC
  • Xal0lex-- bc1q2rvx8xgxtpuut4salgl3mpezqmwmsmmku9dfre  Number of BTC Received= 0.29876092 BTC
  • xandry-- bc1qyjtqzzt95f6fvj06aq4r4k2h245gmkm5dgcp9q  Number of BTC Received= 0.70338521 BTC
  • mole0815-- bc1qp27lvffd3elq2ya47s27tdz27799w6r35aapl7  Number of BTC Received= 0 BTC  Tongue

Note* If I did make a mistake in sharing this information then please correct me

Edit: After reading all of the replies, I can say, most of the members except few, have took this post in a serious manner. Like I am saying they have only this much BTC in there holdings. While to make sure, I even shared my way of finding the amount of BTC they have in their profile mentioned addresses only. I made this post in a fun way not in a serious or rigid information about them having only BTC that I have mentioned above. I hope you all will not mind me.
20  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: October 05, 2023, 07:10:02 PM
السلام علیکم و رحمتہ اللہ و برکاتہ
Dosto Kaya hal hen?
Thora complicated tha. Galtyan matwaqqo hen. Koshish Puri Ki KY tmam members ko add Kiya hy. PHR BHi koi reh Gaya ho to mazrat. I have already posted in local board request.
Amazing yaar, kafi achi list bnai ap ny, mai ny souch aky quote krty waqt apna name andr rkh loon ga lekin yeh sari post to mushkil hi badhi thi, ky mujhy kuch smj hi nhi a rhi thi ky mai kaha rh gya hoon kbi koi ghlti howi kbi koi to rhny hi diya mai ny.

Bohat acha kaam kiya yeh post bna kr, km az km yeh to pta chly ga ky is community jis ko hm family maan rhy hain us my kitny members hain. wesy members to bohat kam hain, Allah is my izafa kry ameen.
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