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621  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 28, 2015, 01:53:32 AM
I see now that Doug is the principalofficer of the frat, must just be his HQ. Smart little MIT kids, should have run a mile when Homero slobbered over heavy breathing to the unless he landed a monster sack of FIAT in their laps.
622  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 28, 2015, 01:48:42 AM
The idea was you could communicate directly with him over the air waves since he is the co-founder of Zinc, that Homero claims to have purchased, and perhaps have a good chat with him. Also noted in one of Homero's past interviews he claims they were the one's who told him that he would have direct purchase relationships with the main vendors.

Be interesting if you could chat with him over the airwaves about all of this. No email servers, no logging of anything, unless Homero has his own spy in the sky of some sort to intercept even that.
Eric is now asking if you or someone else could provide some links to where Josh claimed anything regarding him or Zinc since it is obviously not true.

Scott-


hmm can't be two things with the same name can it?

https://archive.today/DbKmw

http://www.businessinsider.com/zinc-save-bitcoin-extension-for-amazon-2014-3


Is the same two guys:

http://zinc.io/about/

http://zinc.io/docs/



Go to the Zinc site.  Click on JoeLister.  Note the phone number.  Compare that phone number w/ the number listed here (ohio area code, btw): http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2013_11_EO/04-2665319_990O_201305.pdf

Frat house. What the heck. What is he running it through there as a tax exempt entity? Or just runs or operates it from?

The whole zinc thing, was the quotes of users  from a while ago, where there were quotes on the site even before the operation was launched people lauding paybase adn how much they saved etc. Everyone queried it starting here asking if they bought zinc save:

Did GAW buy Zinc Save?

https://archive.today/RG01e

which leads to the query:

Paybase.com - Where did the user quotes come from?

https://archive.today/VyVZE

wherein Homero says he bought it and it came like that lol

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since we bought this feature (company), they gave us the reviews with this feature

More recently he threw them under the bus, been searching since yesterday, a single very meek sentence to either an interview or a posters question or something definitely to the effect some asked about direct relationships to merchants and his reply "...the company we bought told us this..." - which would be zinc.



623  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 28, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
The idea was you could communicate directly with him over the air waves since he is the co-founder of Zinc, that Homero claims to have purchased, and perhaps have a good chat with him. Also noted in one of Homero's past interviews he claims they were the one's who told him that he would have direct purchase relationships with the main vendors.

Be interesting if you could chat with him over the airwaves about all of this. No email servers, no logging of anything, unless Homero has his own spy in the sky of some sort to intercept even that.
Eric is now asking if you or someone else could provide some links to where Josh claimed anything regarding him or Zinc since it is obviously not true.

Scott-


hmm can't be two things with the same name can it?

https://archive.today/DbKmw

http://www.businessinsider.com/zinc-save-bitcoin-extension-for-amazon-2014-3


Is the same two guys:

http://zinc.io/about/

http://zinc.io/docs/

624  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 09:25:36 PM
I haven't maybe coinfire can and make a story out of it.  Cheesy , actually who coinfire should contact is Terry Li, who started Zeus. He had quite the clash with Homero earlier on and can probably give some very interesting insight into the type of nutjob he is. His email is on the first page here:  https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=16301.0

625  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 09:13:21 PM
So in trying to show them that they are here to stay and in for the long run, has Homero inadvertently revealed the term of the Honor Program?

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In 5 years, when we look back to where Paycoin started, who do you think deserves to be remembered?

https://archive.today/iAHqJ

So it will take 5 years to get your piddly 20 dollars back?

If this is true can someone work out the math now knowing the term is 5 years.

As for longevity of the actual company, how about renewing all your domains for 5 years in stead of 1 Geniuses at Work.


626  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 06:12:59 PM
I am digging to see if Homero created a new company which he will claim is the independent third party escrow. he has to generate real coins to pay these people back, either the escrow will charge a maintenance fee which he will use to pay people or Homero through the verification process which is really needed for XYP to BTC swaps, we some how demand you submit your credit card details and from that he will help himself each month to pay back the first inline. Dude is too shady for words. What about cloud mining what is the match today sticking in USD100,000 a month worth of XPY he takes in? Do the numbers gel if he goes that route? What about straight forward mining BTC, what is that 16 BTC / day for 1.7 PH/s.

Just not seeing Homero sticking his hand in his own pocket and extricate even a penny of real money to give to any one of those poor saps licking their lips and fidgeting in the rafters waiting.....and waiting.....and waiting..............for the big pay day.

Real money needs to come from somewhere in order to pay out, and you can be sure it is not from Homero. What you can be sure is, it will come from those poor fools themselves. Peter say hi to Paul.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

627  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
Keats is doing paybase which has still not been assigned an examiner.

It starts out with paycoin and David H. McLain who has done everything for them before

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/44/paycoin-86444905.html

paycoin llc maybe original McLain, applies directly through the system for paybase

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/65/paybase-86465797.html

something goes wrong, probably the conflict with the real owner, lawyer changes over on the 19th to Anthony M. Keats

PAYBASE

2014-12-04
NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-12-05
NOTICE OF PSEUDO MARK E-MAILED
2014-12-19
TEAS REVOKE/APPOINT ATTORNEY RECEIVED
2014-12-19
ATTORNEY REVOKED AND/OR APPOINTED

It is still sitting in limbo with no examiner assigned, letting Homero prance around like he owns the mark.

When you look at paycoin's reregistration it is almost instant:

PAYCOIN

2014-11-14
NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-11-15
NOTICE OF PSEUDO MARK E-MAILED
2014-12-19
TEAS REVOKE/APPOINT ATTORNEY RECEIVED
2014-12-19
ATTORNEY REVOKED AND/OR APPOINTED
2014-12-24
ASSIGNED TO EXAMINER
2014-12-24
NON-FINAL ACTION WRITTEN
2014-12-24
NON-FINAL ACTION E-MAILED
2014-12-24
NOTIFICATION OF NON-FINAL ACTION E-MAILED


Keats looks like their go to man for conflicting trade marks, here ZENPOINTS also filed by him was opposed:

http://trademarks.justia.com/863/74/zenpoints-86374110.html


Homero must be a lawyers dream, every single thing he touches he breaks.  There has to be something behind him because for sure he didn't make money with his shitty little ISP. Deprived of oxygen at birth and a massive hushed  settlement on his 21st birthday? Rich daddy who abandoned him?  He's got all the toys all the cars big house and not a single brain cell. Pissing out money like there is no tomorrow, lawyer here, website there. trade mark this, war chest that, cease and desist everything and anything except making money.

628  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 05:10:44 PM
wow  Cheesy

Checking Homer's trade marks, he's got a new trade mark lawyer

Attorney of Record Anthony M. Keats who registered paybase for him on behalf of paycoin LLC

Anthony M. Keats works for http://stubbsalderton.com who's client is none other than.......

http://stubbsalderton.com/2014/08/congratulations-sam-client-beats-music-beats-electronics-sale-apple-inc/

who's logo Homero filched.

Come on!
629  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 04:37:25 PM
That is interesting,there is definitely going to be some crafty number juggling; no way in hell is Homero simply going to give up 20 dollars to anyone ever. It will be so convoluted that 30 days to think about it might not even be enough for everyone.

This also sticks out, maybe it is tied in?

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$20 USD Payment in Bitcoin at the USD Rate of Exchange

What else can that mean? It should be a given that is USD20 worth of bitcoin, but as you describe above is perhaps the "when" missing?

Also what stands out is

Signup and enroll

You signup for something, you enroll in something.

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30-day Signup: Coin-Holders will have 30 days to enroll in

These are two different things.

630  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 04:11:29 PM
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PayBase will offer a Repurchase Agreement to the general public for 30 days, which will establish a contractual arrangement between PayBase™ and any Paycoin™ holder (Seller), whereby the Seller agrees to sell Paycoin™ to PayBase™ at $20.00 USD per Paycoin™.

"repurchase agreement" seems to be a real financial tool or instrument or transaction, whatever you want to call it. Not just smart wording on Homero's part. Someone in this field care to decipher it?

http://www.eagletraders.com/advice/securities/repurchase_agreements.php


631  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 03:57:37 PM
California kicked in new privacy laws 1st of Jan 2015. Not seeing anything begin Feb elsewhere though.

What it all could simply be is which ever new losers are running the show for him, simply promised him that they would be ready to commence at the end of this month.

Only thing that sticks out is his reference 3 times now that paybase and gaw are separate entities which suggests he is setting that up to be the escrow agent.
632  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 03:49:30 PM
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The details of the program will be released when it launches. You will have a month to make your mind on what you want to do. That should be more than enough time

Trying to think what the trick is here with this 30 day period to decide if you want to sign up or not. Why 30 days?  What can possibly take so long or require such a particular length of time. What's the catch?

1. As everyone fears, FC FS even so, that wouldn't require 30 days?
2. Terms are so unpalatable no one dares sign up, but he drops incentives throughout the 30 days to coax them in?
3. Some sort of staggered or tiered thing, 1st week sign up x something, 2nd week sign up y something etc. ?
4. ?

What is Homero up to , seems to blase about it all take it or leave it, you have ample time in 30 days to decide if you want in or not.

Sounds way more complicated than what is on offer, to the point it is yet another investment scheme on top of all his other schemes.

Something stinks.

If you sign up in 24 hours you get your 20 dollars, by boy oh boy, if you give us another 20 dollars, we'll quadruple your paycoin and we'll include this and on top of that, this

Very suspicious.

Is there any significance to the date of Feb 1st? Aside from the start of the month. Any regulations laws, something out there coinciding with this date or exactly a month after?
633  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
The idea was you could communicate directly with him over the air waves since he is the co-founder of Zinc, that Homero claims to have purchased, and perhaps have a good chat with him. Also noted in one of Homero's past interviews he claims they were the one's who told him that he would have direct purchase relationships with the main vendors.

Be interesting if you could chat with him over the airwaves about all of this. No email servers, no logging of anything, unless Homero has his own spy in the sky of some sort to intercept even that.
634  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 02:02:28 AM
Homero is genuinely insane. What he is asking is, when I delete my posts, can I delete the posts that quoted my post as well.

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We have recently hired one of the best legal firms in the country to represent our regulatory compliance and litigation.

Proudly exclaimed only two days ago

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30213/small-update-update


Really is a sneaky around about way to rally the masses by suggesting he is in the know that some information in the newest article is false.
635  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 01:53:11 AM
Still do not understand how two computer companies can have the same trademark

http://trademarks.justia.com/745/52/paybase-74552505.html

http://trademarks.justia.com/864/65/paybase-86465797.html

The original since 1994 and Homero's application only since end 2014. How is it he is allowed to parade around like it is his trade mark?  Perhaps the original mark owner's lawyer is unaware? Surely they would fire of a cease and desist post haste if they knew?  This looks like the lawyer for the original company who filed theirs.

http://www.pierceatwood.com/attorney-gloria-pinza



636  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 01:38:09 AM
Legal adds up hour after hour...after hour...

Scott-

Scott how powerful  is your radio equipment? I think a chat as follows might be in order.

I have had this btc calc. bookmarked for ages, was testing it the other day and for the first time ever, clicked on the homepage of it.

https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

What are the odds of that? Check under Self-Employment . Check his intro at the top first though. Wonder what he would have to say.

637  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 27, 2015, 01:33:53 AM

The original contained the word: "ligidmency"
638  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 12, 2015, 12:45:54 PM
The only thing guaranteed out of this pile of horse shit, is the inevitable incessant whining that will follow: " but you said..." "but your promised..." "CEO where is the 20 dollars you said you would give us"

Homero's MO becomes tiresome, the intentional lack of full and complete details from the outset confirms this is just another layer to his scam. This nonsense will be hyped up until the full details are released and then the "gotcha" moment will arise. There will be some trick to where all these poor fools are yet again in to deep to back out once the fine print is exposed. Says it himself right here:


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This Paycoin™ Honor Program, for which this post contains an overview of the principal, points (see below) regarding this soon-to-debut proposal, will follow a detailed and timely structure.

Instead of spitting it out now so everyone run for the hills, dribs and drabs will be released as they monitor the market's reaction this this dung pile, then rearrange modify on the fly and then release it.

The "gotcha" has to be in this complicated unnecessary announcement of secret vaults and third party authentications. It is either mere fluff to bulk up the announcement or it will be the moment of clarity when it is announced for what it really is.

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Paycoin™ Will Be in a Secure Third-Party Vault: As part of The Paycoin™ Honor Program, we will have an exclusive – and secure – vault to house Paycoin™. In the interest of transparency, a separate entity unaffiliated with either PayBase™ and/or GAW will manage this vault.
•Third-Party Authentication: Transactions performed or released through this vault will be authenticated by an independent third-party manager.

Simply put if this dunce cannot spell out exactly what it is he is going to be doing today, to everyone, it means nothing is going to happen tomorrow.

Indeed, "incoming" will be the avalanche of howls and cries  " but you said..." "but you promised..." "CEO where is the 20 dollars you said you would give us" " but you said..." "but your promised..." "CEO where is the 20 dollars you said you would give us"
639  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 08:34:46 AM
Half-assed attempt now and back then. Wasn't confident in the original article to begin with with such an important point:

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Ian DeMartino suchmoon • 2 days ago

    I called and asked them. I had similar doubts, but lo and behold at least someone from their marketing department said the wsj article was accurate.

The question is whether the article is accurate or not. The article itself says that an individual who happens to work there is a backer of this kid and his endeavors. Not that the company itself backs his endeavors.

The simple way to flush all of this out, if a self proclaimed journalist cannot even do it, is to from now on refer to this entire escapade as the 'Cantor Fitzgerald funded paycoin'...

then we shall see how quickly they come out of the wood work to correct all of this.

From here forward, refer to it as the Cantor Fitzgerald product.
640  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 11, 2015, 04:11:47 AM
What is going on with this love of ponzis right now? Flavor of the week? Or is it a symptom of the times now that coin prices and difficulty are not allowing any sort of ROI?

It's starting to make me wonder if the bitcoin/altcoin phenomena isn't just some fad that people in 10 or 20 years are going to laugh about or barely remember.

Perhaps some people are drawn to crypto because they want to experience adrenaline rushes from their money. Bitcoin's looking kinda boring atm. They need to get their fix from increasingly risky sources.

Sadly not. Personally I tell everyone to steer clear. It is the likes of the redacteds, the rootdudes, the sburns, the garzas, the assorted muck that need to draw people in in order for the to cash out. Right now it is not for the feint of hart. It is nothing you should draw any uninitiated into at all.  You have scum of the earth like Josh Garza, rootdude, redacted, shrieking, it will balance out to 20 dollars buy buy, sburns and the rest of them over there conning, cheat lying thieving all those people into getting in, solely for their own benefit. Filth. Scum. Undertakings are underway to see if that filthy liar read Briggs or whatever his name is is even a marine.

No one needs any adrenaline rush with their life savings based on the calculated lies of a floppy faced piece of shot called Homero Joshuah Garza.

Scum like this and his whole band of merry men need to be locked up for a very long time before anything to do with cryptocurrency is taken seriously.

These filthy parasites need to flushed out and shattered with all measurable means so that they can never recoup and appear in another form to repeat ever again.
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