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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: December 19, 2023, 06:51:10 AM


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2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: December 10, 2023, 12:34:06 PM


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This is a promotional post for the Vip Club from Cryptoplay.io
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: December 01, 2023, 06:02:54 AM
The Roulette game is programmed by a third-party developer.
I can't answer you about this situation now because we don't know the full code of how is made, but our developers are checking this situation and will come back with more details as soon as possible.

After a month and a half, it seems likely that your developers have had a chance to look in to this. Can you provide an update?

Hello cwil, as I know from developers they updated the Roulette. Unfortunately I don't know more technical details.

Hey there, welcome to the forum!

I must say, I really like the animated announcement. How secure are your inhouse games? I imagine since they are either third party white label games or your own homebrew? In the latter case I am sure there has been an audit or perhaps your game code is open source?

Security and fair-play is really important to Bitcointalk members.

We hope to see you active in the forum community, with a green reputation!

Hello goldkingcoiner, the code is not open source, I know that the safety of the players must come first and that is what we are trying to do, to perfect ourselves and at the same time to update the site to the latest security systems.
Right now we are developing a new very big update that I hope to finish in the shortest possible time. The new update will have to bring more security, speed and dynamism.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: November 30, 2023, 02:51:51 PM


777 Jackpot

In order to get the jackpot you have to hit 777 as JP number ( in my bets section ), also your bet id should end in 77 or 777

If your bet id ends in 777 then you get up to 100% (based on your bet amount) from Jackpot value , but if the last 2 digits of your bet id are for eg. 277 you will get only up to 10% from Jackpot value

Jackpot value for bet ids that end in 777 are calculated with the next formula: {USD_BET_AMOUNT}% * JACKPOT AMOUNT , the USD_BET_AMOUNT that is higher than $100 will be calculated at 100%

Here are some examples:
You bet with $0.1 hit JP 777 and your bet id ends in 777, you will get $150.00
You bet with $0.1 hit JP 777 and your bet id ends in 877, you will get $15.00
You bet with $1.0 hit JP 777 and your bet id ends in 777, you will get $1,500.00
You bet with $15 hit JP 777 and your bet id ends in 777, you will get $22,500.00

Latest Jackpots Winnings

5  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: November 16, 2023, 04:38:56 PM


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This is a promotional post for the Race and Rise to Riches contest from Cryptoplay.io
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 14, 2023, 09:48:27 AM
Would you mind explaining the results of the following bets?

869601854
869602054
869602352
869602473

The result of bet id 869601854 is as follows:
Code:
{
    "id": 869601854,
    "game": "Roulette (EU)",
    "slot_name": null,
    "slug": "roulette-eu",
    "slot_slug": null,
    "slot": 0,
    "currency": "BTC",
    "options": {
        "20": "10.000",
        "66": "10.000",
        "67": "10.000",
        "89": "10.000",
        "101": "10.000",
        "124": "10.000",
        "125": "10.000",
        "135": "10.000",
        "136": "10.000"
    },
    "data": [
        26,
        []
    ],
    "payout": "0.00",
    "amount": "0.003362466992",
    "profit": "-0.003362466992",
    "hide_bets": 0,
    "username": "Acer64",
    "xp": "900.00000000",
    "datetime": "12 Oct 2023 22:18:22",
    "avatar": "8",
    "avatar_bg": "f34135",
    "avatar_builder": 1,
    "server_seed": "2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d",
    "client_seed": "d64b8399a89512",
    "reveal": 1,
    "nonce": 2,
    "server_seed_hash": "e4fb55e2493e8cca556690c91bd22d1050a83dd6c50c328fb111d5ceeb9efd5f"
}

The first value of the data array is 26, and this is the value recorded as having been the result of this Roulette game.

At https://cryptoplay.io/help/fairness, the following code is available to check your provably fair implementation:
Code:
  $seed = hash_hmac('sha512', 'my server seed', 'my client seed'.':'.'my nonce');
  $seed = hexdec(substr($seed,0,10));
  $roulette_number = $seed % 37;
 
  return $roulette_number;

I wrote the following Node.js adpation of the PHP code:
Code:
const crypto = require('crypto');
const hex = crypto.createHmac('sha512', 'd64b8399a89512:2').update('2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d').digest('hex').substring(0, 10);
const res = parseInt(hex, 16) % 37;
console.log(res);

This code indicates the result of the game should have been 21, which would have been a winning result for this particular game.

The results of the next bet in this series, bet id 869601961, follows:

Code:
{
    "id": 869601961,
    "game": "Roulette (EU)",
    "slot_name": null,
    "slug": "roulette-eu",
    "slot_slug": null,
    "slot": 0,
    "currency": "BTC",
    "options": {
        "20": "10.000",
        "66": "10.000",
        "67": "10.000",
        "89": "10.000",
        "101": "10.000",
        "124": "10.000",
        "125": "10.000",
        "135": "10.000",
        "136": "10.000"
    },
    "data": [
        8,
        []
    ],
    "payout": "0.00",
    "amount": "0.003362466992",
    "profit": "-0.003362466992",
    "hide_bets": 0,
    "username": "Acer64",
    "xp": "900.00000000",
    "datetime": "12 Oct 2023 22:18:28",
    "avatar": "8",
    "avatar_bg": "f34135",
    "avatar_builder": 1,
    "server_seed": "2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d",
    "client_seed": "d64b8399a89512",
    "reveal": 1,
    "nonce": 3,
    "server_seed_hash": "e4fb55e2493e8cca556690c91bd22d1050a83dd6c50c328fb111d5ceeb9efd5f"
}

We see here that the reported result of this bet is 8 and can confirm that result with the code written above.

Lastly, it's noted that this behavior disappears once below a certain bet threshold. For instance, the bets in this post are all around $90 and a winning bet was never seen in a sequence of 10 bets that should have had about a 25% chance of having some return. Of course 4/10 bets actually did return, the casino just misreported the actual outcome. This behavior was not seen at bets closer to $10.

I assert that this casino is fraudulently marking winning bets as losses in a very obvious and easily confirmable way. For that reason, I am leaving a flag.

The Roulette game is programmed by a third-party developer.
I can't answer you about this situation now because we don't know the full code of how is made, but our developers are checking this situation and will come back with more details as soon as possible.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 14, 2023, 05:23:45 AM
Everyone is free to express his own opinion, but this does not mean that it is true.
Do I think it is necessary to answer why I stopped the Signature Campaign?
It is not stopped permanently, we will resume it at another time.
Unfortunately, the feedback and statistics so far have not been according to our expectations.
We are thinking about new promotions for Bitcointalk members that I hope to finalize and launch next week.
So the main reason why we stopped is that the ROI did not come close to our target.
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 12, 2023, 04:14:10 AM
I also checked it on my mobile phone and see that we got the same result.
It is good to know it is your issue but in my opinion, visually it is not a big problem. At least I see small differences in visual displays on mobile and PC.

It is not like a big part of signature can not display on mobile like some signature designs show so this design is good to use. It still fully shows but perhaps you want to have perfection with no strike in signature display on mobile.
These have been discussed ussed in several topics before,  I can't point to any of those now,  but as long as visuality is concerned the screen of the device and its configurations play a significant role in what makes up for the best of the display some screed are HD while other are led screen all this is only present on the PC,  although we may also have such screen resolution with mobile devices but then I like playing of PC since it offers more trying games experience along the line.

Between,  we have to always be in touch with both versions to get the best results and at some point be able to meet up with the demands,  in the case where we are not getting the best in one of the versions be or PC or mobile device.

Display and visibility do play a major role, no matter if it is related to playing gambling games or display of the gambling site signatures across multiple platforms.

Usually, gamblers will prefer to gamble on desktop devices or laptops and may not want to gamble on mobile devices due to their small screen. It sometimes becomes difficult to focus while gambling on a mobile phone and that is the main reason why we see gambling sites not much interested in the development of their gambling site apps.

Usually, if you want to bet or gamble on mobile, you can only do it through the mobile browser as in most cases you will not find a dedicated app for this purpose.

We also have a version for mobile, it is not really an application but you can add Cryptoplay to the screen. Google Chrome is used and the search bar disappears. When you enter cryptoplay.io from your mobile, a notification appears asking if you want to add Cryptoplay to the screen.
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 08, 2023, 05:38:14 PM
Overall the sportsbook look quite nice

i have additional questions regarding the future

Are there plans for Inplay section?
Without inplay its hard to be competitive i think
And to find the right games its also not so easy without any country and sports section to select and have a look into it.

at the moment for me not useable unfortunately in that way as a punter

Yes, the sportsbook is still in development and I hope it will be complete as soon as possible.
At the moment it is possible to select only the events from a certain country by clicking on the respective country.

This is the 2nd Race and Rise to Riches session, the first was in September.
The last competition with a total value of almost $500,000 for 10 players, had as a prize for 1st place a Porsche 911 Carrera 4s or $200,000. Each time the winner of the 1st place was asked if he wanted the car or the money and so far everyone chose the money (for the car there were additional costs that had to be paid by the winner such as transport, taxes, and time until the car was purchased and delivered). It was not profitable to buy dozens of cars before I knew who wanted the car and not the money!
The promotion video was made by a third party, I just requested a video promotion for our contest, I can't control where the assets were taken to create that video and I don't even know under what conditions - they procured. The fact is that I paid for that promotional video and it was delivered to me as you see it.
I don't expect to make tens of millions of profit from the Race and Rise to Riches sessions. My expectations are to increase the number of players. So if the players' losses cover the prizes offered, it's a win for me.
The leaderboard changes when the competition is close to the end, then most become more competitive. Before I launched Race and Rise to Riches, I had discussions with the Cryptoplay staff in which I told them that I could support this competition for 3 months if there was not enough profit. If after 3 sessions, this competition is a hole in the budget, then it will be stopped. The first month was satisfactory, I cannot give exact data if I or the winners made a profit but it was not a hole in the budget. Unfortunately, I cannot expose exactly all the insides of an online casino because it is possible to disturb many casinos, but I try to be as honest as possible.

P.S. Wager competitions bring the biggest profit in a casino.

Peace and respect,
"The Buffoons"

Thanks for clarifying it's only the second and not the third month of a 2 million dollar race. Won't address the next two points, rubbish.

Did you just say the leaderboard is static and does not change until towards the end of the race? I can't find any disclaimer anywhere on the website that elaborates on this, so what you are ultimately saying is players are duped by numbers on the leaderboard purposely not updated and misled to bet? Did I get that right?

Don't resort to the peace and respect facade, stick to manipulating the leaderboards. I'm usually reserved but in rare instances I hold reservations on bad actors. No doubt there is foul play going on here, you just admitted to it.

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The leaderboard changes when the competition is close to the end, then most become more competitive

P.S. If the leaderboard remains static until close to the end of the race, are the numbers currently displayed fabricated? Or will you claim it's merely on pause after the first few days?

How can the ranking be static when players bet? It is logical that the more you bet, the bigger the wager you make and it is normal that at the end of the competition, the players become more competitive as in any competition. If you are in the final, don't you try harder to be number 1?
If you bet 1 million tomorrow, in one day, does that mean that the ranking remains static?
Please re-read what I wrote and try to understand what I said, not what you are looking for!
If you don't stop with the insults, this will be my last answer for you.
If you have any accusation against Cryptoplay, you are free to open a new topic.
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 08, 2023, 08:15:05 AM
You guys hosted the 2 million dollars monthly race in both August and September, and you are currently running it this month as well... By the end of this promotion, you will have given away a total of 6 million dollars, is that correct?

Another question - quick glance across social media, it seems like you guys have given away a handful of Porsche 911 Carrera 4s. The car advertised as the prize for the monthly wagering competition before it was substituted for the 2 million dollar race. How many of these cars have you given away so far? I imagine the dealership must be quite pleased, as I've noticed that the prize for the monthly race was a Porsche 911 Carrera 4s in many different months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgRhjkyAmsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pctaqk-ldng

First video showcases Cryptoplay's promotion video featuring a Porsche 911 Carrera, second being the source of the video. Did you guys purchase the Porsche from the Porsche Centrum Groningen dealership?

Considering that a third of the month has already passed, it's surprising to see that the top 100 on the leaderboards wagers combined would only hover around $50,000 in EV. This isn't even including the rakebacks you guys supposedly offer. Notably that I could bet $1,000 and be in the top 50 on the leaderboard. Is this indicative of a slow month, or is my BS radar accurate?

Buffoons


This is the 2nd Race and Rise to Riches session, the first was in September.
The last competition with a total value of almost $500,000 for 10 players, had as a prize for 1st place a Porsche 911 Carrera 4s or $200,000. Each time the winner of the 1st place was asked if he wanted the car or the money and so far everyone chose the money (for the car there were additional costs that had to be paid by the winner such as transport, taxes, and time until the car was purchased and delivered). It was not profitable to buy dozens of cars before I knew who wanted the car and not the money!
The promotion video was made by a third party, I just requested a video promotion for our contest, I can't control where the assets were taken to create that video and I don't even know under what conditions - they procured. The fact is that I paid for that promotional video and it was delivered to me as you see it.
I don't expect to make tens of millions of profit from the Race and Rise to Riches sessions. My expectations are to increase the number of players. So if the players' losses cover the prizes offered, it's a win for me.
The leaderboard changes when the competition is close to the end, then most become more competitive. Before I launched Race and Rise to Riches, I had discussions with the Cryptoplay staff in which I told them that I could support this competition for 3 months if there was not enough profit. If after 3 sessions, this competition is a hole in the budget, then it will be stopped. The first month was satisfactory, I cannot give exact data if I or the winners made a profit but it was not a hole in the budget. Unfortunately, I cannot expose exactly all the insides of an online casino because it is possible to disturb many casinos, but I try to be as honest as possible.

P.S. Wager competitions bring the biggest profit in a casino.

Peace and respect,
"The Buffoons"
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 07, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
This site is one of the new casinos that I find interesting. I don't know, maybe it's because of how the owner behaves; it just seems to have a high level of professionalism. Now, they have launched a new signature campaign. I'm curious about how well or poorly this casino will perform in the next few weeks and months, and how will the community percieve on them. I'm looking forward to it if the OP can provide actual data, like the estimated current number of their users.
Hello, we have over 17k players registered until now, and new players are coming every day.
Cryptoplay is still small compared with other casinos, but with professionalism and trust from the bottom we can reach the top, the important thing is that all this time offer quality.
Trust is earned over time, not through endless advertisements.

17k registered players is a big number, but the question is how many of them who are actively playing regularly? I'm lurking your live bets tab, there are not many players imho because I can see few different usernames only (around 5 different usernames). Chatroom is also not that crowded as well, only few players who are chatting to each other or share their bets in the chatroom. Of course it is not enough to know the actual activity in your site because you are the one who knows about how many active players you have and how much is wagered in average every single day. By the way I have to agree that trust has nothing to do with advertisement, trust is given by your real players who are playing and expressing their experience in your casino.

There are 1000-2000 active players who deposit regularly and a total of 860245703 bets for 12 months.
The bets that are in the All Bets section are not all the bets made in that second. One bet is displayed every second, if 100 bets are made in that second, just one will be displayed.
There would be too many requests/second to be able to display everything and there would most likely be blockages.
Right now when I write this response is 237 bets/sec.
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 06, 2023, 04:17:11 PM
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This site is one of the new casinos that I find interesting. I don't know, maybe it's because of how the owner behaves; it just seems to have a high level of professionalism. Now, they have launched a new signature campaign. I'm curious about how well or poorly this casino will perform in the next few weeks and months, and how will the community percieve on them. I'm looking forward to it if the OP can provide actual data, like the estimated current number of their users.

Hello, we have over 17k players registered until now, and new players are coming every day.
Cryptoplay is still small compared with other casinos, but with professionalism and trust from the bottom we can reach the top, the important thing is that all this time offer quality.
Trust is earned over time, not through endless advertisements.

This is how we love in Crypto casino being advertised here that they are completely aware of the system , providing coppermembership before even posting here.

Welcome to the forum Guys , Have created my account now and deposited small amount to try and observe the sites behavior for players.

The site looks good, simplicity is what I love in portals .

congrats for being here and hoping that you will stay even longer to compete with more bigger site.

Thank you, I try to make everything as professional as possible.
If I "deliver" quality, I definitely get good feedback and then the player base will grow.
And that reflects your teams trust score when you try to deliver everything professionally as nowadays gamblers are  also bright and knows how to find a legit and worth trusting casino.

But Sadly my first deposit seems to be not that lucky and will try once more later today when i got Home , though the fairness is enough for me to trust your site .

Sad to hear that, ask for a bonus on the support, I am sure you will receive an extra lossback.

I am talking to the campaign manager about some promotions on Bitcointalk, when they are ready you will all know for sure.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for being with Cryptoplay and thereby increasing my ambition to take Cryptoplay to a higher level. Peace!
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: October 04, 2023, 09:17:44 AM

Contradicting indeed,but all the complaints of the accuser I think has been actually counter with the screenshot  provided by the OP and I think these stories of users getting their account is actually not a new thing anymore here in the forum and the most annoying part is that most of these so called accuser don't actually provide enough proofs to what they are actually try to claim and we all know how thats makes you look as a complainer. As you are trying to stand on a claim proofs is actually what gives you an edge over such cases because most casino tend to blame the players always where whereas most times latter is the case.
I saw their signature campaign today and I was happy that the casino is already making attempts to established its presence here in the forum,  this is a great way to start and a new casino because in this way you are already letting potential clients know that you have a presence here in the forum,  and one other thing I like to suggest to the ops os that,  you guys should try as much as possible to maintain the current momentum in your response here on the ANN thread because this goes a long way to speak positive or negative of the casino here in the forum.

In the coming days, you may likely get some tough questions from users who may like to get updates on the operational guidelines of the casino and how best they understand it.

Thank you for the feedback. In the last week I was a little busy and offline most of the time.
I am now connected and ready to answer any questions.
I am aware that cryptoplay.io is not complete, we still need updates as any website.

This is how we love in Crypto casino being advertised here that they are completely aware of the system , providing coppermembership before even posting here.

Welcome to the forum Guys , Have created my account now and deposited small amount to try and observe the sites behavior for players.

The site looks good, simplicity is what I love in portals .

congrats for being here and hoping that you will stay even longer to compete with more bigger site.

Thank you, I try to make everything as professional as possible.
If I "deliver" quality, I definitely get good feedback and then the player base will grow.
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 28, 2023, 08:10:08 PM
People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...
OP had easily countered your claims with a simple screenshot they had posted here. If you are confident with your claim against this casino, you can post a scam accusation in the proper board and make sure to put some screenshots. You are lucky enough that OP is willing to return the differences despite the explanation about the the violation you had made. Though I'm still not sure who is telling the truth since no one had provided some strong evidences between both of your claims.

Of course I will publish a scam accusation because I do not intend to stand against a house that has unfair practices. I have screen shots of all my bets, deposits and withdrawals. Cryptoplay can't prove anything because they don't have any evidence. It was confirmed to me that through my personal data that I submitted to them for verification, they allegedly managed to get data on which services (sportsbooks) I have registered accounts on. I am even willing to go so far as to publicly publish a list of my bets from all sportsbooks where I have open accounts and everyone will be able to see that I did not do arbitrage.
If the casino (sportsbook) has solid evidence against the player, then it must also present it, and Cryptoplay does not do that. The OP just says that their sports provider has the proof.
It's funny, they don't have any sports provider, they only publish odds for a dozen football matches every day. They certainly don't need a sports provider for that. After all, the OP wrote this in post #12, which clearly means that they do not have any sports provider or third party: "Cryptoplay is a more classic crypto casino, every game is made by us, especially the sports."

They simply have no money and need new naive players. People, run away from them...

1. You make accusations for which you have no evidence to support them.
2. Sportsbook is made by us (sportsbooks from other casinos is an iFrame and has nothing to do with the site itself)
3. It is logical that we take the events from a provider (not the iFrame), or maybe you think that we have 200 mice that sit and create odds and all the events just for us.
4. The contract with this provider is based on percentage, so it has access to all the bets and informations of a player.
5. I have concluded this discussion with you and this is my last answer (it was seen in your messages what is your actual goal).

I officially ask those who are among the winners (many are members of this forum) of the Race and Rise to Riches competition to say if they have received their prizes or not, so that this speculation of yours can be refuted.

P.S. Rather than paying you the fee so that you don't make me "as negative as possible on the forums", I'd rather give him a giveaway or even do a signature campaign here on the forum.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 26, 2023, 06:40:42 PM
People, run as far away from Cryptoplay as possible. It is the biggest scam in the betting world that I have seen in the last 20 years.

Yesterday they stole all the profit I made on sports betting with the ridiculous explanation that I used arbitrage with another service, but they couldn't provide me with any proof. Apparently, their sports provider has that evidence, but they don't even want to tell me the name of that provider.
If you take a closer look at their competitions and rankings in the casino, you will see that there are very few players. I managed with a rollover of only 6000 dollars (everything was played in the sportsbook) to enter the 80th place of the ranking list in which they supposedly share 2 million dollars. Don't be naive...

You have broken serious rules and as it says in our terms and conditions, "We reserve the right to permanently ban/suspend your account and forfeit your winnings/funds for any type of arbitrage."
Despite all that, I sent you back the money you deposited, even a little more.
I don't want to argue with you here on the forum, I will leave some screenshots from our conversation on Telegram to understand what your goal actually is.




https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/b5f1b3c21dd24b97846c704ffecc3f8508b63de1d63b27e3cead3161db019eca

I apologize to the members of this forum for this situation.

Can you please shed some light on the contract address for the CoinPlay token (CPC)? I've been searching for quite a while, and it's very hard to find that rather new token. Many got CPC as an abbreviation and this one doesn't show up yet.

CPC is our in-house cryptocurrency and its value is equivalent to 1 USD. CPCs are given as a deposit bonus. You can use CPC for playing any games on our platform or you can exchange unlocked CPC to other coins using our exchange function at any time.

16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 25, 2023, 09:08:23 PM

You have just received an answer regarding your problem. Some of your bets are subject to arbitration, which is totally prohibited in Sportsbetting. If you have more deposits than withdrawals then I will return all your deposits but overall you are in profit, from arbitration which is prohibited.


This is the most amazing thing I have heard so far in my career as a bettor, and I have been betting for over 20 years. So if I have more winning bets than losing bets you can void all my bets? And when I lose, then everything is fine?
What kind of arbitration are you talking about? At Cryptoplay you only have prematch, no live betting, no cashout. So how can I arbitrate?

The provider that offers us the odds also offers to other sports betting agencies, unfortunately, this is their answer regarding your bets.
Arbitrage means that you bet on all possible variants, namely 1,2, or x with 3 different tickets, whatever happens in that event, you have a profit.
If you have been a bettor for 20 years, you must know what arbitration means.
As I said, if you lost money at Cryptoplay, it will be returned to you in full, but unfortunately, your account can no longer be used.
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 25, 2023, 07:15:54 PM
I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.
Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

Interesting. I was asked for KYC on Saturday. I registered on Cryptoplay 14 days ago. So far, I have had a total of 10 deposits and three withdrawals. I made the fourth withdrawal on Saturday and after that they asked me for KYC. I sent all the documents they asked for and after that they don't reply. Yesterday I asked in the chat what the problem was, and I got the answer that my account is under investigation. I never got an answer to my question about why and what type of investigation. This morning I asked the question again in the live chat and I got the answer that I have to be patient because their sports provider does not work on weekends. I only bet in the sportsbook, not in the casino. I only have this account, I deposit and withdraw through my Binance account. I don't know how it can be more honest than this. There is absolutely no need to open multiple accounts at Cryptoplay because they do not have bonuses that are profitable for the player in the long run.
The only problem I see here is that after 14 days I am several hundred dollars in profit. I can't even imagine what would happen if I was among the top 10 players in the Race And Rise To Riches for 2 million dollars if the casino had a problem with my $800 payout

You have just received an answer regarding your problem. Some of your bets are subject to arbitration, which is totally prohibited in Sportsbetting. If you have more deposits than withdrawals then I will return all your deposits but overall you are in profit, from arbitration which is prohibited. $800 cannot be a problem for a casino that has been active for almost 3 years with a fairly large player base.

I am open to discuss more details with you on Telegram at https://t.me/andries_cryptoplay
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 24, 2023, 08:29:30 AM
I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.
Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

You understood perfectly.

I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.
Do, you mean if I have only one single account and I don't have anything unfair then you will not ask me for know your customer information? If yes, then it will be good for me and others and hopefully think you will get more and more audience.

Their term about KYC is interesting for those who do not like mandatory KYC including me but it is obvious that having this good point is not enough to get more audience. I just explored a bit especially the VIP club page, unfortunately I have to say that their offer (level up bonus) seems to be the lowest one compared to other casinos with the same level up bonus scheme. Maybe it is because of their level up rakeback and cashback system. Anyway I also checked their $2M race, the current leader has wagered less than $2M with possible prize of $500k. Seems that there are not too many whales at the moment in this casino. It is actually good opportunity to be one of the 100 winners compared to other races in other casinos where the competition is tougher.

The bonuses for level up are worth $1,000,000, and the climb is very fast for the first few dozen levels.
You always benefit from Rakeboost with which you have up to 12% more Rakeback depending on your deposits.
Rakeback and Cashback are instant, you don't need to wait for the "cashback day".
It's the first round of Race and Rise to Riches, before we had another contest where the total prizes were $500,000 and only 10 players were awarded.
Now we reward the first 100 players and so far the result is satisfactory.

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Welcome to the forum! It seems that we have another operator entering the crypto gambling space to compete. So far, I am impressed with everything that I have read. The OP seems very professional and knowledgeable about what he or she is doing. The playmoney feature that "generates" CPC is also a good idea. But... how much do these BM tokens cost when bought? That should be less than $1, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

There's a typo in the OP's post, specifically in the part about the 3rd deposit bonus. Best of luck!.

BM Token can also be bought, we have different packages in our store at https://cryptoplay.io/buy-bm

Just found this thread and absolutely loved the ANN presentation though the site design is alright and needs more improvement. It's good to see how responsive you are in thread op and I hope you stand by whatever you stated regarding KYC.

Also, I observed that the sportsbook section only lists soccer events and I feel more sports markets need to be added asap.

Sportsbook is still under development, we have integrated all the sports but not yet for the public. In the shortest time we will add new sports.
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 12, 2023, 09:43:38 AM
welcome to the forum, your casino has a very beautiful designer, I see that you have also gotten used to the forum, I searched about your casino on Google and saw this on casino.guro:



https://casino.guru/cryptoplay-casino-review

From what I understand, casino.guro says that a license was listed in your casino that casino.guro was unable to verify whether it was true, this means that when casino.guro tried to verify at the source whether your license existed and was true, in source your license did not appear, so casino.guro raised the possibility of it being a fake license. well, it turns out that some members asked you in this thread why your casino didn't have a license, that's because these members didn't see a license in your casino and you said that your casino didn't have a license because you don't ask for kyc. But the question here is this:


7. Know your Customer (“KYC”)

Cryptoplay reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Cryptoplay reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Cryptoplay’s sole discretion. Cryptoplay also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Cryptoplay, and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

source: https://cryptoplay.io/help/terms-of-service

when people create an account at your casino, they are agreeing with your TOS, even if you in this forum keep saying that you will not ask for kyc at your casino, yet at your casino the TOS says the opposite and what counts is not your word, but what is in your TOS. Since you don't have a license and have no intention of asking your customers for kyc, then why didn't you remove this part about kyc from your TOS?

Now returning to the issue of the license that casino.guro says it had in your casino they were unable to verify the veracity of the license and for that reason they suspect that it was a fake license, I found this in your casino's TOS:


15. Governing Law

Governing Law

The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed under, the laws of Curaçao. You irrevocably agree that subject as provided below, the courts of Curaçao shall have exclusive jurisdiction concerning any claim, dispute, or difference concerning the Agreement and any matter arising therefrom and irrevocably waive any right that it may have to object to an action being brought in those courts, or to claim that the action has been brought in an inconvenient forum, or that those courts do not have jurisdiction. Nothing in this clause shall limit the right of Cryptoplay to take proceedings against you in any other court of competent jurisdiction, nor shall the taking of proceedings in any one or more jurisdictions preclude the taking of proceedings in any other jurisdictions, whether concurrently or not, to the extent permitted by the law of such other jurisdiction.

source: https://cryptoplay.io/help/terms-of-service

This means that before you had a license at your casino and casino.guro was unable to verify this license. You don't have a Curacao license, so why don't you remove this whole part? I have not seen any accusations of scams against your casino that you have not promptly responded to on trustpilot, this clearly shows your casino's good intentions. Therefore, the only error that I see that needs to be corrected is in your TOS, you should remove these parts of the KYC and the part where it talks about the Curacao government, because you do not have a Curacao license. I wish your casino every success



It is displayed on the website for each slot, the maximum win in Slots is $50,000 per spin.


I did not have a license and not now there is no license for Cryptoplay, I said in previous posts.
Why would I put a fake sticker on the site which can be verified?
Casino.Guru is probably referring to the fact that they did not find a license on the site, I don't think they meant that they found a license on the site and it was not valid.

One of the license requirements is mandatory KYC. We do not require mandatory KYC, it is optional.
We usually ask for KYC from those who abuse such as multiple accounts, sale of accounts, double spend transactions, etc.
As a note, in 2 and a half years of operation we have requested KYC from a maximum of 15 users.

I agree with you, the Terms of Service need to be redone and I will take care of modifying them these days. Unfortunately, I cannot delete the KYC part because it helps me not to be "scammed".
There were withdrawals on Cryptoplay of $100,000 in a single transaction and that user has not even completed step 1 of KYC.
I repeat, KYC from Cryptoplay is not made for players who play fair.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cryptoplay.io - Casino and Sportsbook | Race and Rise to Riches - $2M | VIP ⚽️🎰 on: September 11, 2023, 07:57:11 PM
Welcome to the forum. Does your casino have a license?
I spend around 15 minutes to find some information about any licensing. I think they don't have one yet but that should not be a concern at all. We have many casinos in bitcointalk who does not have a license and they are doing well. Hopefully Cryptoplay will do well too.

The site looks very different at-least the homepage than all other casino those launches regularly.

I answer honestly to any question and do not hide the fact that we do not have a license. One of the requirements of the license is to implement mandatory KYC, this is also one of the reasons why we did not add providers, because in a cryptocurrency casino, players must remain anonymous and we don't want to have mandatory KYC at Cryptoplay. We are mostly Classic Crypto Casino and not a "face of providers casino".
I don't think I and many others who do not like KYC, they do mind at all. A crypto casino does not need a license but you need to accept the reality too. There are gamblers who feel safe [false hope of safeness though] when there are a license involved. But I have seen very little time when things went wrong a license provider was a help for the gamblers.

It may take time for you to build a good reputation but if you are taking care of your public relation then you will slowly have loyal gamblers in your platform and will do just fine. Good luck.

Cryptoplay has been active since 2021, now we have also come to bitcointalk, after 2 and a half years of operation. When you enter into a community like this, you must have something good to offer, trust and brand growth are earned over time, and if you offer professional services, of course.

that is true, credibility is important in this business. so your track record is a good reference if you are doing well on this part. and from the looks of it, checking the trustpilot - https://www.trustpilot.com/review/cryptoplay.io, you have a general rating of 4.5, which is not bad.
though as a player, one should also check the legitimacy of those reviews.
and it seems you already earned some loyal patrons just looking at the numbers in your race and rise to riches contest. so it means, some high rollers are already trusting your site. license can wait. but make sure you will always promptly address each complaint or issue on your site. that's one way to earn trust from the community here. no existing complaint would be a good indicator that the site is quite trustworthy.

Trustpilot has a very good system to detect fake reviews, most of the reviews are from Cryptoplay users, some names I recognized.
I answer and try to solve any problem in the shortest possible time, my Telegram is public and with some users I talk on WhatsApp.
It is impossible not to have complaints at a casino no matter how big and safe it is, after all the casino is a place where some users lose money and get frustrated, and because of this different complaints can appear.
Apart from that, there are those people who are "body and soul" for a brand and then throw "mud" at everything that is new and maybe threatening, some call them "haters" and no matter how perfect your system is, for them is unsatisfactory.
I am grateful that until now I have not met such people and I have turned all the upsets into loyalty and respect. Peace!
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