I was going to respond to everyone here but due to this post and me having stuff irl happening to me but that is not the point (as in, I have been trying to get a life and focus more on the real world more than online) I had it about halfway done and it is saved on Grammarly, will PM it to anyone who wanted to see the long reply.

Now, back to the new reply JollyGood created

So now let's break this reply down. I will not be responding to your comments calling me a "nuisance" any longer after this reply as I have already proven otherwise with section 3.3 of this thread. You became aware of your misuse of the term after I highlighted my reasoning of it, and you replaced your term with "obnoxious" as proven with your original edited reply.

I was inactive for a month prior to my "quitting", and I was inactive upon several occasions I did NOT write a "quitting thread" I just needed my question answered, and since I thought it would be my last time there I didn't care what I posted along with my question. If you need proof to my story regarding the "second chance" I can and will gladly show you clear proof if you let me hear out my side. I will prove it via screenshare+refreshing of trades and chatlogs, and crypto transactions. Rather than trying to hear me out, you are still under your own assumptions, which is wrong. I am willing to prove the "second chance" / lucky deal I have received to anyone here.


My inactivity as well as my main reason of being on this forum being no longer an issue is the proof that supports my claim of why I wanted to quit. I do not have an issue with money, therefore I do not need to rely on a $40-80 a week campaign. If I had no "intent of leaving" wouldn't I have been active this whole time? Me personally this was not "sudden" it was expected of me to leave especially if my main reason of being here is no longer necessary for me. Even if I was enrolled in a campaign today I would definitely be kicked based off inactivity. Just look at my inactivity gap upon my forum posts It's happened like 2 or 3 times now.


You seem to talk about "Drama" often on this thread, let's discuss it, starting with the "goodbye quitting" thread.

For my "goodbye" post, as I said, I genuinely assumed it to be my last post, I just wanted my question answered along with my few ramblings in that thread. The point of that thread was to ask for a proper wallet to store crypto under. I have installed both BitcoinCore on May 6th, 2024 and Electrum to my PC on May 1st, 2024 which can be proven with me screensharing my "Properties" tab.

I never saw your reputation until after the thread was created. You should have notified me about your new accusation that way I had the chance to defend myself, especially knowing my Last Online at the time. If this was the other way around where I saw your new reputation first, and then said I was "quitting" after this "drama" was fully resolved then no one would have issues and it wouldn't be awkward as it is.

Now let's discuss the "Drama" relating to this thread, and my original thread as well as proving the point that making an argument does not have to involve drama.

Although I view my original thread as "drama" I do not view this new thread as "drama". Unlike last time, I am trying to be civil, focusing on the idea of the argument you support, explaining how it is weak in a constructive matter and encouraging you to think better regarding your supporting points. I am trying to not focus on your personality as well as trying to keep my feelings out of it. I wanted to create a respectful closure for the both of us, where we can either constructively agree to disagree or realize. I can offer this privately too via PMs or Discord. I am just trying to offer a peaceful discussion where we can both state our points and get each side to realize what we believe in, I am not trying to be disrespectful to you unlike last time, where I was using my instinct reactions and feelings to reply rather than calming down and thinking about the situation logically. I always argue, and I use these arguments as testaments as to how I have been talking to people online. As you can see with my original thread, I have a clear problem with controlling my feelings and initial reactions. The same can be said with my first thread on Bitcointalk which is about Rollbit, which was disorganized and clearly based from desperation and sadness feelings until I calmed down. And even with these feelings, I had no intent of attempting to destroy Rollbit's credibility or reputation, but rather to reason with them over their actions. That thread not considered drama in the slightest, right?

Not all Arguments do not have to be classified as "Drama" which is my response to you for this part. It just depends on how you approach it as well as your intentions.

Now let's talk about the points you've made from this new thread.

You initially tried to strawman my current thread using contradicting statements diluting my thread from the point and main argument, calling my thread "Ramblings. Nonsensical" when you admitted you didn't even read it yourself. Once you glanced at it, you tried to be a little more serious with me with editing your post with your reasoning against Section #2, as well as at least realizing that I'm not a "nuisance" account, replacing it with "obnoxious" and realizing I put effort and learned from my previous threads mistakes. It's not ramblings or nonsensical when you clearly learned value from the little bits you glanced over. You couldn't address the main point of the thread very well with all of your points addressed. If you don't want to read it all that is fine. I believe you are trying strawman again with this reply, focusing on how I was planning to leave rather than addressing my constructive criticism against your most recent reputation.

I am not trying to be rude or undercut your credibility, but I hope people realize that you aren't giving me a chance to show you my side here. So far you have just completely ignored me and tried to strawman instead of focusing on the main point, I do not get it, considering you're a highly respected investigator here. Shouldn't you be trying to verify my points as well as solidify your points instead of all this "distracting"(i dont know what to call it)? In the past, you have retracted your reputations in the past after hearing people out, which is why I thought you were a decent user, because I thought you could be good at criticism and admitting when you are wrong what is making you not give me a fair chance?

I am unsure of what your intent with trying to use strawman to dilute attention from the main point that I have no association with jackpot, but please, respectfully stick to the main point of this thread so we can continue discussing. The important thing to know is that I have nothing to do with "jackpotracer".

What the hell? Rather than try to at least be a reasonable human being, you decide to just try and garbage bin my thread?

Everything I provided here was not "ramblings" or "nonsensical". You can argue that with my original thread, but everything I posted here was straight to the point.

Edit; (all text below)
I see that you've edited your post after I replied. I will reply to it too.



Fair.

Although you have claimed to not read my post, I respect that you read it enough to realize that I'm not a "nuisance". Regardless, it still is not "ramblings" "nonsensical" "unnecessary" or whatever you want to call it. I am trying to offer you direct proof that I am a real person on the internet and you are still refusing to for some reason. How am I trying to be "anonymous" when I'm offering you my digital footprint? My history online just to try and prove this.
As for the "account morphed in to posting in boards and on subjects that newbies simply do not", well, "Reputation" is right under "Scam Accusations"(the subforum of which I came from) and these are the closest I'm getting to the LMAD subforums over 7 years later. I'm no Crypto expert unlike most of this forum so I rarely ever use most of the other ones. I also post alot on Off Topic.


There is no "Drama", I'm not trying to create any. I am just simply trying to prove you wrong in a respectful and civil way. We can still resolve this in PMs or on Discord. If the "reality is much more than that" mind you explain why I waited 6 months after your initial accusation if it was really like that? The "reality" that there is, is very simple dude. I was quite upset that I never had any chance to defend myself or even be notified whilst inactivity all of this was going on without me knowing. I have a life, I have other things to do. I have been inactive on multiple occasions as well.


If you still think I'm that dude after my post I really do not know what to tell you, especially when I've provided everything I could give you.
Also, I no longer care about the $40-80 a week that can be earned here from being in a campaign. I have basically received a second chance of wealth through a lucky trade, and in the past few days have made quite a decent amount. I will still be willing to prove this if you gave me the chance just so you no longer believe that "he will not be able to use this particular account for whatever purpose it was created for...". I have no purpose of being on this website other than to ask for crypto related help every blue moon and that's it, basically making my stay here no longer valuable as it once was.

I respect that you're able to realize that the "wall of text" has effort.

Thank you very much for the help! I will view that thread too.

Everyone here can vouch for Electrum but I would want to believe that Bitcoin Core is also safe? May someone list the differences as to why it is better?

Thank you!

Original Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494655.0
This thread was created because the last thread was disrespectful, unprofessional and included irrelevant text. It was also when I first noticed and used my instinct reactions rather than calm down and think about the situation logically. Apologies to anyone who had to read that. I am keeping the thread up above for anyone to read. I did dislike his approach, but since I've calmed down entirely I will approach it with valid reasoning and arguments instead of anger with barely my point across unlike last thread. I have stated why I was pissed in the other threads if you are wondering why I was upset. (I often notice I repeat myself WAY too much)


This new thread is NOT created to harm JollyGood's reputation as a scam/spambuster or a user in any way. Everyone makes mistakes, and even I have done so too with my original thread. Regardless of his attitude and horrible reasoning he is still a good person in this community and I know that he is far better at this kind of investigation stuff than I ever will be. He is valuable to this community and he shouldn't be thought of differently because of this thread, at the end of the day he is only doing what he thinks best. This thread is created to reason and make him realize that I have nothing to do with "JackpotRacer" nor that I am an "alt".


1) JollyGood's March Reputation (JackpotRacer)
1.1) His claim
1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.

2) JollyGood's December Reputation (The original claim of me being an alt)
2.1) His claim
2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.

3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigation
3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions
3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)
3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call me
3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chance

1) JollyGood's March Reputation

I had to go back to refresh my memory, and I started briefly looking at the replies for little since I forgot about most of this stuff.
Let's start off with why I was seemingly supporting JackpotRacer.

1.1) My reply was not on either side
Here was my only singular post that was "defending" JackpotRacer. I made this reply on March 7th,
 "Are you not going to answer? Where or How did he use these supposed exploits to his advantage? Where is the proof. How come this question is always avoided" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63774318#msg63774318)

Until just now, I thought I was defending him, but it seems like I wasn't even on either side. I was just asking a question to Eva due to some of her unprofessional replies.

If you look at the posts made from the other users and Eva, she only answers like one question rather than all of them. I instantly recognized this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63772872#msg63772872) as part of why I also replied saying my message above. I remember reading at the time and came up to what I posted. There were multiple people agreeing that she fails to answers questions. Hopefully you understand as to why I posted that reply.

Until now, I thought I made more replies that were relevant to the thread but clearly not. This was my only singular reply. If I was an alt of Jackpot, wouldn't you think at the very least I would reply with more posts?

On March 20th, like two weeks after I stopped caring about that thread, Jackpot reposts my comment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63837598#msg63837598) and Icopress calls it out. I am extremely confused about this, because this dude reposting my comment TWO WEEKS LATER shouldn't mean I'm his "alt" all of a sudden.

JollyGood, rather than attempting to investigate to confirm the post, just automatically sided with the reputable member rather than try and verify the claim, even though the point is very weak. How is this my fault in any way that he just randomly decides to copy and paste my text? I'm not trying to be rude, but rather than actually trying to verify the claim using the information below, it just feels like you've only stuck with your assumption because Icopress is reputable, along with your past accusation against me from 5 months ago.

1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.
Let's keep in mind the following; JollyGood is supposed to be a respected investigator on the forums. I am in no means attempting to undercut his credibility with what I'm about to say, but it is insane that I had to go out and find differences that are used to identify alts just to prove that I have no association with him. Also, I'm obviously not an expert. I won't be surprised if something I say here isn't 100% correct when I was checking Jackpot, but I still tried my best.

The Thread;

1)
Someone copying and pasting my text doesn't mean that I'm their "alt". This is just illogical considering anyone can do this. I'm not sure why Jackpot did but it is what it is.

2)
I was not even siding with Jackpot or Eva in that thread, I was just asking questions and then I never replied again.

3)
More replies would have been made by me regarding the topic of the thread. As far as I remember, unless they were deleted or in another thread I do not remember. You can check with ninjastic space to verify.

Comparing the user to me;
4)
Our typing styles and attitudes are very different. Even though we were both pissed, I tried calming down in that original thread I made and offered to resolve your doubts in a civil matter with proof provided.

5)
I've stated here that I live in the USA (my first thread, and I'm willing to screenshare my university IPs if that helps to anyone)
I've tried investigating (point 9) and Jackpot lives in Iceland

6)
This was the only time in history that I remember ever "Defending" JackpotRacer. Please, link another thread where I was "supporting" JackpotRacer

7)
Crypto addresses are different and have never linked back
My address (I have been using since 2021); bc1qunhuvgkahf42regsum6zayvnman0rfzkh9x6da
JackpotRacers address; (I do not even know which one they're all like 2017 old) https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=JackpotRacer

Go ahead, for those who investigate crypto wallets, you can do that to see if any transfers of funds or reposts on the forums containing my wallet were connected with this user, or anyone elses here. I will also provide you my ETH and LTC wallets which I've been using since 2021 too if needed.


Apparently it was a quoting issue?
Timelord2067's post. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64019785#msg64019785)
Timelord actually investigated and clarified the situation, and at least realizes that I'm not JackpotRacer in any way. Apparently it was a quoting issue on Jackpot's end.

9)
This dude even had a whole gambling website.
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110445.msg11796736#msg11796736)
If you go to whois and try searching who owns that domain, it's from a whole different country. From Iceland?
(https://www.whois.com/whois/jackpotracer.com) This also ties in with point #5

10)
I hate gambling, I do not encourage it nor respect people who do it very much. I have said this here long prior not only on Bitcointalk but on Discord. While this dude is seemingly a gambler or a gambling website hoster.

11)
If we were indeed alts, there would be at least one time where I accidentally used his account to post on one of those threads.

I hope the above at least makes Jolly realize that I have nothing to do with Jackpot.

If anyone else has any other points add them in,



2) JollyGood's December Reputation
"when a newbie posts with a deep knowledge of the forum/members in the Reputation board, it is usually to hide other accounts."


2.1) His claim
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476886.msg63296494#msg63296494

I can care less, I've stalked people for ages during late 2023 and Jan 2024 to learn more(NO not personal info, just their posts and accomplishments on the forums). I do not regret it,  I learned alot about crypto in general including the history, some of which is actually useful to me. I also have knowledge on a majority of the people who actively used this forum and because of that I can respect alot of these people and know what they did to help contribute to Bitcointalk.

I actually did the same on another community, and because of that I became highly respected and literally helped tons of people, both with big and small amounts. It got to the point where I could help people save thousands, tens of thousands of dollars for free which made me feel not useless for once. If it wasn't for me, they would have NEVER gotten their lost assets returned or unbanned months and YEARS later. (Will be proving it with 3.4 to JollyGood or anyone interested)

Let's break down my reply in that thread;
This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community? It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too.


"This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community?" - At the time I didn't realize he was a DT1 user nor did I even know what DT meant(proven by my next reply on that thread too..). This was also my first time seeing him. If I'm correct I started to try and become active on these forums during early december, possibly very late november? So I had no information on him

"It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too." Inferred straight off his join date, posts, reputation and the past actions people have said about him. Anyone can do that.

It isn't hard for any new user to correlate to that judgement. Your point is extremely weak, and contains no supporting backbone.

2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476886.msg63298414#msg63298414

I noticed his neutral reputation, and I tried replying to him hoping to resolve it, but he just didn't even bother responding? If you ctrl+f my name and his name on the next page, he made no attempt to reply, he just focused on the topic of the thread. Since it didn't matter much to anyone I thought of it as more of an achievement and didn't really care after that.

It just feels extremely unprofessional on his end and I don't know what else to say. I hope you're able to realize this dude.


3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigation
I will now be getting into his responses to my posts, and proving that they are illogical.

3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions
When I first noticed all of this going on, it was over a month later. I was inactive, and if you check my post history I took several breaks from the forums.
Keep in mind, I did NOT view this whole blackjack fun drama for weeks after my post. I did NOT care about it. That is why there are posts from after the accusation date.
I became inactive again on 3-18, with a thread on 3-22 stating the problem with my class because I wanted to post it somewhere. You could've at the very least alerted me about this or let me have a chance at defending myself, even my last post on that thread was March 7th as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64007651#msg64007651
JollyGood responded with the following (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg64022807#msg64022807)
You only made that point because you are still under the assumption that "I'm JackpotRacer", which was already proven false.

So, if some random member copies and pastes your alt weeks later, does that make him your alt? Please, try and defy this with your reasoning.

Furthermore, with your logic you could also point out that he's blackjack fun/Eva, because in that SAME reply, he copied and pasted a quote from Eva. It just does not make sense. You need more proof than that, and I'm sure you are aware by now. I am failing to understand why you aren't taking it seriously and are just going under assumptions based on what's at hand. Anyone can copy and pastes responses.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494659.msg64011909#msg64011909

It's just sad how you avoid talking about my situation with Rollbit, because it is clear that I have ONLY found out this website through searching "Rollbit stole my money" or whatever. I ONLY made my account here because I saw Rollbit Razer reply to scam/fraud accusations here and since it was hard to contact him via other ways, making an account here was the best option. I had a valid reason to complain, I lost thousands of dollars. You are taking that like some sort of huge negative problem. All of that money went from $4k to $5.2k to $7k to $8k to $12k last time I checked, it just keeps going up. Money is still money dude. No one deserves to have their hard work taken away through some bs. (And yes, this loss was my fault I am aware, no need to reply with that.)I've accepted the loss a long while ago
Thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471380


This will be spoken about at 3.3. This is just completely false.


I am extremely confused here too.
Here is my thread history for you to review; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3585906;sa=showPosts

If I am reading correctly, you are making the assumption that I've made threads just to speak about me being a "new" member. Until I felt offended by your threads I did not give a single care in the world to make threads about "being new to bitcointalk" If you mean my hero rank thread then that's because I needed to know (further reason down below)


Well dude, if you actually INVESTIGATED then you would know why I'm active here. I've already stated that my intention here was public. I started becoming active here on these forums after I saw one of the Rollbit campaigns, and messaged HHampus asking if I could participate in the campaign to earn my money back ONLY if I had the required ranking. He said that I could, but not guaranteed, regardless of my ban on the Rollbit website. I started becoming active after that. I am normally one for providing proofs, but I do not have this message to prove it since it looks like bitcointalk clears PMs after a certain amount of time, I tried checking my PMs the only 2023 PM that stayed was on December 13, 2023, 08:05:50 AM. But if he remembers it then yes, this can be proven easily.

3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)
3.1 can also very easily tie in with 3.2, but I will just show this very quickly

I created my initial thread, which was again not very strong and contained more anger and irrelevant text unrelated to the point of the thread rather than reasoning.


Your words and actions make a difference unlike me. You've been around for years and have proven to be a trustworthy member. I've only been around for about 8 months and I provide very little contribution to this community. What you say here will influence people and make them think stuff, even if it is a false case such as this one. It doesn't help that you have been ignoring or responding very poorly to my posts. You have provided no evidence and very poor backbone to your case.

I will present this again at 3.4 but I tried providing you a way to prove that I have a digital footprint online, that I am a real person behind the screen and not an "alt" or sockpuppet of the forum. Although my tone was pissed, I calmed myself down after that thread and even said I was willing to resolve this in a civil way. Instead, you do not care. I was also going to prove that I have nothing to do with JackpotRacer, but I have already said it here.

If you are putting me under your ignore list due to my disrespect, then it's understandable. But at the same time, accusing someone for over 5 months of being an alt, without notifying them while being inactive or providing them a way to defend themselves is sad. What am I supposed to do when all you've done was assumed and not really cared?

3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call me
And here you are again, just assuming me to be a "nuisance" account.

1)
My goal, again was to rank up and participate in the campaigns to try and earn my lost money back. With that being said, No "nuisance" account is going to do that, without receiving negative rep or be involved with actions that disdain the community.

2)
If you look at my previous posts, I have actually tried contributing to the forum. No "nuisance" account is going to do that. Albeit not much contribution, I have provided ideas for people to make money as well as opportunities through marketplace. I have reported spammers and some "merit giveaway" scammer as well. I have helped harass scammers too giving them negative reputation, bumping threads both old and new.

3)
Also, "nuisance" accounts are often trolls. If you take a look upon all my posts, do you see me trolling anyone? Until I made my heated original thread, do you see me being disrespectful to anyone except scammers?

4)
Let me remind you what a "nuisance" account is. You've clearly lost the definition of what one actually looks like. Anyone who has had a bit of experience here on the forums will know what one is too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3627273 - that dude who made an account just to post on my thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1043276 - jvanname (a "nuisance" troll)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=980573 - some scammer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3103643 - your impersonator
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2704906 - another person who made an account just to harass you
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2560538 - another person who made an account just to harass you

From looking at your untrusted feedback, there are plenty of these people.


Have I, until my original thread, EVER disrespected you, or anyone?
I haven't ever trolled anyone here either and I haven't scammed or done anything wrong to anyone here. I have only tried to contribute, like I said.

Your definition of "nuisance" account is not accurate if you are bunching me in with that group. What is your definition?


3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chance
As I said, I am willing to prove that I am a real person behind the screen. I will show you my digital footprint over the past 5+ years, including DMs with Rollbit Staff members which will also help prove how I even got here to begin with. I am aware screenshots can be faked, I will be screensharing, I will be refreshing too to ensure that it's not inspected bs. I will be showing you what I do online when I'm not on bitcointalk and how what I do here is similar there, which has ended up making me learn alot more about the other communities on the internet and how I've saved them from losing 4-5 figures worth of money. Someone who sockpuppets under an alt account would not have any footprint to begin with, because besides bitcointalk, they're just merely anonymous alts of a more active user. I am also willing to answer any question you present too.

If you would like to do this, just please message me with your Discord and add me so we can speak there and so I can try to show you all that. I am active there with a long standing history.

I do apologize for my initial anger, but you have to understand that what you're doing is not right. It just becomes even worse when you seem to just ignore me. Again, these threads were NOT made to try and tarnish your reputation or to cause any harm to you, but to reason with you and make you realize all of this.

If anyone has questions, feel free to reply. But please, if you aren't convinced by all this, then provide a way that will.

Also small edit;
Almost everytime I visit here I just search up "bitcointalk rollbit" on Google Chrome guest mode. You can see my thread is the first result because I've been clicking it myself for over half a year each time I want to visit here. Maybe this can help in a big or small way i dont know.

I've taken the time to actually focus on life (my bad for saying May 9th when it was actually today!!, will show the proof if u really need that because theres always someone on bitcointalk who will doubt everything) and I have calmed down since my initial reaction to all of this bs and now I am ready to reply in a more civil manner.

When I made this thread, I was unready and wanted to quickly address it, regardless of the feelings I had or the lack of full context. Now re-reading this thread a second time it is just clearly extremely unprofessional and out of anger with irrelevant things added on my end.

I do understand that neutral reputations mean nothing or don't mean much but I was quite upset seeing that I would've EASILY never known about this if I didn't want to change my email. I was inactive, nobody, not even JollyGood notified me. I understand that mistakes happen, but it still sucks to not even be aware of stuff like this. I didn't even know until a month later (because I was inactive) and I wasn't even going to see it anytime soon either since there were no indicators unless I clicked on my rep page.

Also, another thing to point out is that JollyGood doesn't even investigate or allow me to present my side to him or to answer his questions or anything. He just assumes everything without actually verifying its true(This is not a baseless claim, will be explained in my new thread or in PMs). Isn't he supposed to be some sort of respected user known for being a good investigator on these forums?

Since this thread was created very unprofessionally and at the time I didn't take the time to calm down, it will now be locked. I will be creating a new thread either today or tomorrow in a more respectful, and straightforward manner, also responding to the new JollyGood posts. I am glad that there are people who actually realize this here and if anyone has any questions respond to the new thread or PM me.

The email stuff was something I wanted to know for months, it can easily be a serious security hazard if the user isn't too knowledgeable of the risks.



I will be making a proper response in the Reputation board later today or tomorrow as I am still investigating the full situation along with my life outside of Bitcointalk. But for now, let's start off with this.

And here you are, falsely accusing me of being an alt again without letting me provide my proof to you in a civil manner. Really unprofessional dude.

I am unsure of why you are calling me a "nuisance" account. I have never disrespected you until that thread a couple of weeks ago because I felt disrespected.

As for your "I do occasionally wonder about their long term intentions."
I have already made my intentions clear within multiple posts. My intent (which again, stated multiple times) was to get enough merits to rank up to be able to participate in the Rollbit campaign in order to work for my money that I lost back.

You are a respected investigator on this forum, I am unsure of why you aren't actually investigating for small details like this. You also failed to investigate properly when you called me a JackpotRacer alt, because he RANDOMLY decided to copy and paste my text a few weeks later.


P.S I still wondered why for a while as to why it wasn't removed already, hence this thread's creation.

Thread will now be locked since the question is answered. Further discussion regarding your points will be made in either my current thread about you, or my new thread if I decide to make one. This time, it will be organized and respectful unlike my original thread, where I just saw everything out of the blue and got upset of how I wasn't notified about all this.

You said "I wish I could take a big massive shite in his mouth- and then slap his mother (1) for birthing him."

Remove that part of your post please. Joseph van was the only forum member here to act like a complete weirdo saying that type of stuff whenever he wasn't funny, hence its you. No one needs to see disgusting garbage on my heated rant thread.

And I remember looking at his reputations months ago and there were other people yeah you are right. But those people were literally alts or actually did something wrong.

Anyways I got logged out while editing my last reply to add more text This is the second time now I'll now head to bed since its 3 am and if I'm not asleep I wont be surprised if I'm viewing the replies of this thread while randomly checking and end up logging in to reply since there's always going to be someone saying the most surprising or unreasonable stuff that I've always had to disprove or clarify.

Small update

Will not be on until May 9th due to this notification
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090209918654611488/1234459241574694932/image.png?ex=6630cf42&is=662f7dc2&hm=bc08c0edf480587d670ac6e2843657a6224b3c89890a80641d445fc7cb212d7d&

That’s now 2 exams I have to take on the same day IRL. Great. I will now be gone again and not respond to anything after I reply with this message until this is over

I was inactive prior and only meant to be here for 5 mins or until someone responded to my wallet choice thread,
I only even saw this new bs when I clicked on my reputation.

You guys will either make up the weirdest conspiracies while i’m away or choose to try and be reasonable and notice how dumb this all is. Either way, will be right here responding to whatever retarded stuff there is on this day (May 10 for some of you people on the other side of the world)

Nothing is going to intervene with my studying being interrupted, especially not an online drama subforum

Damn, so that means if I ever visit this website in the future the UI will most likely be changed. I personally didn't mind it. Thanks for informing me about it.

I've never enabled that feature due to how weird it was. I just don't see it being useful at all unless they're using a company email or are aware of the risks.

Bro? Are you that Joseph van PHD guy.


Edit: (bolding my original reply above)
Anyways I don't want to click "Edit" anymore to my OP I'll just type this here since for some reason I did not think of this to add prior

The first reputation I was like "welp that sucks but whatever i havent done anything bad and besides that hes the good guy of the forums whos mostly accurate and he's brought alot of people to justice" I thought of that to be more of an achievement because who the hell else is new here and gets falsely accused of being an alt.

The second one, without notice or anything just feels like straight disrespect. Fact I had to see this randomly after me being inactive a month later is absurd. And then I see the reasoning and it's because this dude randomly copy and pastes my message 2 and a half weeks later. From what I can tell, Jolly didn't bother investigating or anything he just assumed what another trusted reputable member said?

And he also, never gave me any sort of chance to disprove his bullshit claims, just slapped there out of the blue. And the time where I did reply it was just ghosted entirely by him in December. For JollyGood Message me your discord so I can add you and we can talk things there(Respectfully of course, regardless of the original threads tone) because I am more active there and to show I do not like to be falsely accused of stuff especially in a random scenario like this.

Initially, i was not planning to stay here for more than a couple of minutes. This was the first topic I posted when I first logged in, because I needed to find an answer to this question. I believe I have been answered this before when making a thread about Exodus but I completely forgot other than "trezor" and "ledger". I check my reputation and I see another false accusation from jollygood so now I might as well be back here until I clear it up fully with him. And I've also realized I accidentally left people here on read.

No one is interested about my stories and life rants, I've made threads before about it and even when making them I made sure to add that in to show that I'm aware. Everything here is going to be forgotten and I'm probably never going to be remembered by anyone who's ever viewed either within a few years at most.


 "never say never." Exactly

I will listen to you. This thread will be closed now. Thank you as well



I am not quitting due to accusation,(I was already inactive prior for a while) I am quitting because I was only here to make money, but $40-80 a week isn't enough. It's just that this nothing that I can really do here anymore except learn more about crypto and the evils of gambling websites(I DO NOT GAMBLE it is horrifying). I am also aware that there is nothing I can do about my Rollbit wallet loss(which is why im here to begin with) and I'm warning people to this day to avoid my mistakes. I will still refer to people who are in need about this website because I believe this can still serve a purpose to those who need to make money or learn about crypto facts or security. I was mostly inactive recently due to me wanting to only focus on school and sad irl events that I do not want to state here and prior because of december exams.

I always use a PC when dealing with all my crypto transactions. I could never trust mobile apps for storing crypto. I believe there is no specific requirement


Do not worry about it, I am grateful for the reply though but let's just hope that no one else here has had a similar issue. I'm going to improve my life as a whole and try to get the best outcome. I just do not want to put what's basically a second chance to waste. Electrum seems good so far and I'll definitely use it for the future. I'm grateful for what I've learned from this site over my time here, every minute spent here was not put to waste and there are always a majority of good community members here.

I have a long story about all about this stuff but I don't want to blow my brains out typing it all. They weren't the entire cause to everything bad and I can only blame myself for being friends with them for that part of the retarded stuff I have had to go through for the past year and a half. I just wanted to warn some of you because there's always gonna be at least one person who needs this thread.

Be careful stay safe.

I've changed it to a throwaway email address. I'll see if I can PM a staff member in the following days about my request. Thank you.



Six years is a very long time. I am aware that theymos has definitely improved security by alot here and knowing that there hasn't been a breach in like a decade it's good to know at least. I would just rather not take the risks though. I've been deleting some of my online accounts and I have stopped using emails that have been in at least one breach and I'm still trying my best here.



To both; welp that sucks thank you for informing me that there is no delete button and the helpful information as well. Somehow I've either forgotten about this or missed entirely until now.

I've always wondered. Why does bitcointalk allow that garbage option. Unless you are aware of the risks or are using a company email it is such a stupid decision. You are allowing everyone to see your email...

And why does bitcointalk allow these 1990s 2000s ass options that no one nowadays ever uses.
AIM:
This is your AOL Instant Messenger nickname.
MSN:
Your MSN messenger email address.
YIM:
This is your Yahoo! Instant Messenger nickname.

I understand that this forum still has the old old form theme and I respect that very well, which also makes this website unique. Respectfully though, I am confused as to who uses "instant messenger nicknames" in 2024. I hate yahoo and aol because they delete old inactive accounts but it is what it is, rules are rules.

I'm glad you guys allowed 2FA too somehow. It's a smart security option you people added here which is good that I was surprised was even added knowing this site when I first saw it.

Damn, sorry I did not see these posts until now!

I've been recovered from the absolute year and a half torment I've been through and now I'm quitting YouTube as well as other ways of making small money. I'm giving my channel to my friend and I'm going to be telling him about my initial plans and how he can make money using my strategy on youtube.

I'll try to see if you guys can get hired still!! Will not be instantly by the way but I'll still try out of the gratefulness of my heart

Edit; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5481289.msg63484146#msg63484146
You should also read my older thread. This is one of the channels that make money easily on YouTube, and I know this dude owns several.

Going to be doing so soon, not "immediately" but maybe in a week at most. I'm sorry but I can't just have my account here under an email I used for a while as well. Hopefully its not in your past history because I had to change it like 20 mins ago. I used my main IP when signing up for this website and I do not want it saved just incase you people are ever breached again. Most of y'all are genuinely great people but I dont wanna stay and I haven't. I quit a month ago and I was semi inactive prior.

So like, wheres the button to delete my account?


P.S; I was logged out when I clicked "post" I forgot to click that checkmark where it said to stay signed in. Shocked me due to how unexpected that was and thought a staff member listened to me and deleted my account already for me for a moment.

I do not blame Bitcointalk for any of my problems. Everything I've had bad luck with was outside of this website. I actually learned alot about this site too and I'm grateful to even learn about this website. Also, there is always going to be people going through worse than what I went through. I tried to be "grateful" during the bad times but it's like really difficult especially at bad luck that seems to never end seemingly forever and ever til recently. I'm going to use my story and experience to try and help others when I am more prepared to. I actually do have a good reputation on another website non crypto related where I'm basically some "trusted" figure in their community for doing this type of stuff. I'm sorry for typing alot I just probably won't be using this website again anytime soon as soon as some random drama in the rep board is over, and I like to be happy during good times. The number 1 thing I always think about when I think about bitcointalk is all the people and friends I've met and came across over the years of my life who I will probably never speak to again sadly, due to the simple fact that I can't find them due to their inactivity, which is sad honestly.




As for both responses, I will check Electrum out right now, thank you


I only know about a long majority of the history of this forum and some small things here and there that's about it. Maybe I will learn someday, but right now until my exams are over I will just be focusing strictly with school.

To Icopress; (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485686.msg63837598#msg63837598)
Respectfully, I have no beef or any hatred with you, but I am confused as to why just because this dude copy and pastes my message 2 weeks later all of a sudden I'm an "alt" of his. Have you not looked at his grammar and spelling or any other factors, because I defend him for a few moments out of both of our entire history I'm seen as an "alt" of his. What do you want me to do to prove I'm not him over something he's done?



To JollyGood; You've been a complete clown for several months to me with these reputation points. I understand this forum doesn't tolerate disrespect but what the hell.

Here you are, accusing me of being an alt of JackpotRacer because he decides to copy and paste my exact text, two weeks later. You also gave no notice to me, I had to check my reputation just to see it.

In all honesty, as well as this forum is good at investigating, you guys suck sometimes. JollyGood is a genuine schizo (ONLY SOMETIMES, because it is unfair to exclude all the good work he's done for this website) and because of me saying that my words are now going to be taken with a grain of salt by the people viewing this thread.

I quit a month ago, after this drama is over I can care less. But if you're going to all of a sudden spew out bullshit then at least tell me or give me the chance to disprove it then I won't be accepting that. You're a clown dude.

If I randomly used some old ass account, knowing all the blatant bs that I've received here I would probably be seen as more of a real person than me using this account, which is my first account (with a secondary account I made just to ask some privacy question that I forgot the user to) but thats about in terms of my accounts here on bitcointalk. Oh, YOU PEOPLE BETTER NOT GET BREACHED AGAIN TOO OR I'LL BE FUCKING PISSED. Whatever IP it is I didnt use a VPN or protection upon sign up so thanks bitcointalk if that ever happens.

I'm sorry JollyGood but I'm not from India Philippines or some other struggling third world country unlike most of the forum that has been caught using alts to do the rule-breaking shit like what you've mentioned. Keep your expectations to yourself or share them with me instead of being a literal pussy. I am willing to screenshare anything from other websites with my history on the internet or whatever the fuck I can do to help prove otherwise. I have a decent reputation outside of crypto to prove that I'm not an "alt" just simply because you decided to care this much. As much as no one else cares, I know you will because you seem blatant on disproving an alt. Change my reputation for being disrespectful to you after I prove myself. I would rather prefer to have a reputation that is correct than 2 wrongful reputations of being an alt. And you all can do the same too when this is over. I stalked you all for like 2-3 weeks straight of my time during December and January when I was more desperate to earn money and escape the living torment I was in. All the bitcoin history was fun and learning all the random stuff I never knew. I've been mentally fucked for ages but I can care less I'm finally recovering after removing some fake people and getting a decent amount of cash which just seemed like some "second chance" out of the blue. Now I'll finally be able to improve my life and help others, and change my mood and daily thoughts back to the way I was prior to all this bad luck happening in my life.

I'd rather verify that this account is "me" and rather face the consequences of my mental problems than to be falsely accused. Doesn't matter what new reputation point is because I'm quitting anyways only as long as the reputation is saying the truth about me and not some unfair lie where I don't have the chance to disprove because I'm not even notified about this. (And dont take this sentence out of context i know some of you ppl do that shit)


I don't want to be apart of your little random "rent free in your head" grudge where some people here seem to be unforgiving towards others after half a decade, only for me I just stalked people 24/7(just history only) and spooked the fuck out of some of these decade long old people here. I had one of the highest online to activity ratio times but I've moved on a while ago so thats now all gone. 4 years from now I'll be getting my degree and making 6 figures a year off the job I love man. And here is how people commonly throw an insult in this particular sentence(Saying "while you..."), That is wrong for my case, as I do not know you well, and you by now probably living a far better life than I'll have. At least I'm fair.


The point is this;
I would like you to add me on Discord, where I will be sharing my screen or answering whatever questions or what you have, all in a respectful manner, since I want to have a "fair trial" at proving whatever the fuck your alt accusations are. I dont want to view this forum 24/7 365 for replies and blah blah but that's probably what will happen either way.


I was gonna leave this account dormant but I realized this dogshit ancient website has been database breached twice. I'm gonna get this account deleted too once this is over because I can care less about this site. I'll return here again if I'm ever struggling again somehow in the future. I cant be bothered looking at all the cringeworthy posts I've made they're just like my youtube comments. I've never been involved in a crypto forum but it was damn the closest thing to the older forum communities I was in. I can only see myself only EVER using this forum to hire people from the third world to do stuff for me cheap Or to just to carefully examine and see who here on the forums is poor, but has common sense and needs help escaping their financial problems or life struggles, or in the rare case I'd probably need help with crypto related stuff since everyone here is 10000x more knowledgeable than I will ever be at knowing crypto.

Hello, I just noticed this through https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3585906

I dont know why he copied and pasted my message but that isn't proof.

I'm sorry that I'm not a no life that hasn't been around the forums just to have a high status to not have incidents like this happen.