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461  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 25, 2014, 12:26:37 AM
For various reasons I've added a rather nice always online UPS http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/smart-app-ups/paragon-series/ol2200rtxl2u.html?selectedTabId=specifications&imageI=#tab-box to my 2nd s4 and found something rather interesting:

My 1st s4 on it's own same UPS reports a very significantly higher power draw. Like 290Watts more.

Both s4 are Batch-2, the first one possibly was made a week earlier earlier than #2 but both arrived within 1 day of each other (direct vs hosted shipping goof).

The UPS's report
  #1 1,480 to 1,490w load
  #2 1,100 to 1,200w load.
Both consistently reporting as 1.950-2.25THs by my pool.

Anywho, in some earlier threads it was mentioned that on some Batch-2, one of the ASIC chains can't/doesn't change Vcore and pretty much runs near max safe voltage. Wonder if that is the case here? Certainly would explain the 290w higher load...

 I take it that during power-up when the Vcore regulators are either set from a pre-stored value in a Dpot or set by the I2C link one chain is not getting the message...  Any way to fix that by Firmware?

if it happens all S4's same asic freq. like 200Mhz .. this is definitely have a problem. i am first founder this and i wrote this problem before and i am working on it. fpga cotroller board sending voltage and hash data on same TX pin then 12F1822 collect voltage data then send i2c commands to Buck controller on the BOOT. (bitmain designed seperatly but never used pclk-pio-pen pins. Direct FPGA to BuckController)
this is J7 situation you are facing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796839.msg9608656#msg9608656
462  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 24, 2014, 09:17:27 PM
Okay I may grab one or two  of these.  I am interested in under clocked results.  

so is anyone running freq 187.5  with 0.685 volts?       if so what do you  get for hash rate watts/ power numbers and fan speeds?


better yet has anyone done freq 175 with 0.670 volts?  if so what do you get for hashrate watts used and fan speed?

TIA

philipma1957

Ask and yea shall receive (at least sometimes!):  http://puu.sh/d3BqI/ad9aaf7d23.png - 187.5 at 0.685V.

This is my best config, you can leave 2 front Fans. machine temperature not higher 50 celcius. fan speeds around 3000rpm.
you can find my J7 problem with this way.
if your chain 1 (J7connector is chain1) has higher temperature, you must to check voltage and J7 cable. probably chain1 feeding higher voltage, not our setted voltage. This problem is my nightmare. i am working on it.
463  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: SATILIK S3 MINER on: November 23, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
Selamlar,
elinizde S3+ halen mevcut mu ?
464  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: SATILIK Antminer S3 S4 C1 indirim kuponları S4 ALACAKLAR MUTLAKA OKUSUN ! on: November 23, 2014, 11:28:25 PM
 YENİ KUPONLAR EKLENDİ BİLGİNİZE
465  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 22, 2014, 05:04:14 AM
My miner perfect work at a frequency of 268.75 - 275, and outputs the 2500-2700 ghesh

WTF? that's pretty good. Did you have to change the voltage too? Does yours run stable with no X's for a long time?

dont believe some like this, without powerful psu thats meanless..
466  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 05:50:05 AM
One more question:

In your opinion, is there any harm with leaving it at the default configuration as is?


thanks a lot.

answer is simple, if device havent got any problem default config is useful
but you can see my pics i replace all stock screws too, because all of stock screws is big for this pcb and these are not tight.
if you open this case you can remove with your bare hands. poor fabrication. not torked.
467  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 05:32:51 AM
Others perfecly normal only J7 connected hash board is unconfigurable, if you want to proof of that disconnect this board power cord and you will see chain 1 is gone and look at your power wattage. or try to configure voltage and repower again. i have 2 S4 and all of them have same problem.
and i found best configuration and best efficiency (0.52 but not stable) => 187.5 Mhz at 0.685 Volt (you can add this value like that = 0685)
this is the best...

Curious:

Does this also mean board J7 will remain at 0.725 Volts while the others are at 0.685 Volts?  Cause I think you said J7 was un-configurable?

This would mean we can expect this one board to probably be considerably hotter than the other boards.

Yes thats right.  i can measure stable results, only after i found a master problem and solve it

And the way to solve it [for now] is to reduce to 187.5 Mhz at 0.685 Volt?  Just making sure you did not do something else as well?
No... that is not a solution. this is my best working parameters. not a solution........
468  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 05:26:30 AM
Others perfecly normal only J7 connected hash board is unconfigurable, if you want to proof of that disconnect this board power cord and you will see chain 1 is gone and look at your power wattage. or try to configure voltage and repower again. i have 2 S4 and all of them have same problem.
and i found best configuration and best efficiency (0.52 but not stable) => 187.5 Mhz at 0.685 Volt (you can add this value like that = 0685)
this is the best...

Curious:

Does this also mean board J7 will remain at 0.725 Volts while the others are at 0.685 Volts?  Cause I think you said J7 was un-configurable?

This would mean we can expect this one board to probably be considerably hotter than the other boards.

Yes thats right.  i can measure stable results, only after i found a master problem and solve it
469  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 05:11:12 AM
Smiley of course that is lower than 2Thash but also eat lower energy Wink and also lower Temperature and lower noise Wink
like 1800Ghash 1060W

i think that voltage adjust problem is master reason of psu's blowing because developers unexpected situation like that.
they put a 12V 120A top limit psu and they expect 1200w power usage but not, some of hash boards still working warning limits...
470  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 05:00:09 AM
Others perfecly normal only J7 connected hash board is unconfigurable, if you want to proof of that disconnect this board power cord and you will see chain 1 is gone and look at your power wattage. or try to configure voltage and repower again. i have 2 S4 and all of them have same problem.
and i found best configuration and best efficiency (0.52 but not stable) => 187.5 Mhz at 0.685 Volt (you can add this value like that = 0685)
this is the best...
471  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 21, 2014, 02:43:26 AM
Hi everyone,
i have got a strange problem with my Antminer S4 batch2, i listed founded problems:
1-my S4's has different connections with FPGA controller, one of them is top left hash board connected to J7, other s4 same board is connected to J6. this is very strange or poor assembly.
2-this J7 connector is going to the first hash board i think, but other  hash boards red led is off except this J7 connected board led blink. 5 minutes waiting then this board getting hot and another five minutes all boards leds are on. then all of them is hot but THERE IS NO ETHERNET CONNECTION.  Huh
3-i worried power comp. and i changed 0720 to 0700 then i measured all hash boards voltages on 1500uF/2,5V capacitor.. wouuwww THERE WAS A PROBLEM! because we can never change 1 hash board's (j7 connected) voltage. this is allways 0750V. than i read confidential pdf of CSD95372B and TPS53641 this is i2c controlled buck converter and this is controlled by pic12f1822 on every hash board. So this 0,750 Volt i measured is over voltage protection limit.
i am an electronic engineer by the way.

I ASK TO BITMAINTECH,
WHY OUR HASH BOARDS HASHING SOMETHING STANDALONE (or why warming up) AND WHY 3 HASH BOARDS VOLTAGE CONFIGURABLE BUT 1 IS NOT ?

thanks, any ideas ?

Dogie said to me "paste pictures to forum" then i did.
Now any ideas for this? Sad when i did sniff controller->buck i2c communication, i will make a seperate or online live voltage changer ):
software bugs are minor but we have got a major hardware bugs.







472  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: <<< SATILIK >>> Antminer S3A+ 290W @ 420 Gh/s <<< SATILIK >>> on: November 19, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
Arkadaşlar , 'lisansız elektrik üretmek' mümkün. 10kW altı ve üstü olmak üzere 1.000 kW (1 MW) ' a kadar kendi elektriğinizi üretebiliyorsunuz.Kendi elektriğinizi ürettikten sonra kalan fazla elektriğide hangi kaynaktan ürettiğinizle ilgili olmak üzere 10 yıl süreyle devlete satabiliyorsunuz.

Devlet elektrigi yurt disindan mesela Bulgaristandan alirken ne kadar oduyor, vatandasi boyle bir sistem kurdugunda kendi vatandasindan kaca aliyor ?

benim bildiğim tam olarak net olmamakla birlikte sanırım vergiler hariç net fiyatın 10da birine maloluyor devlete.
yani biz kilowattını 0.26 kuruşa alıyorsak, onlar 0.026 gibi rakamlara alıyor ya da mal ediyorlar. aradaki fark şirketlerce üleştiriliyor.
473  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 19, 2014, 01:11:11 AM
Wow! 

http://puu.sh/cWvE3/072f5ed8f1.png

Stock is 0.72V, at 0.85V the chip is pulling more than double the power for a 22% increase in performance.  Presuming the GH/s is based on clock rate, that would be:

0.75V at 222MH
0.80V at 244MH
and 0.85V presumably to add stability at the same 244MH, but at a 30% bump in power for that stability.

you cant achieve 0.8V. S4's hardware voltage top limit is 0.75V
474  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 18, 2014, 01:20:29 AM
Hi everyone,
i have got a strange problem with my Antminer S4 batch2, i listed founded problems:
1-my S4's has different connections with FPGA controller, one of them is top left hash board connected to J7, other s4 same board is connected to J6. this is very strange or poor assembly.
2-this J7 connector is going to the first hash board i think, but other  hash boards red led is off except this J7 connected board led blink. 5 minutes waiting then this board getting hot and another five minutes all boards leds are on. then all of them is hot but THERE IS NO ETHERNET CONNECTION.  Huh
3-i worried power comp. and i changed 0720 to 0700 then i measured all hash boards voltages on 1500uF/2,5V capacitor.. wouuwww THERE WAS A PROBLEM! because we can never change 1 hash board's (j7 connected) voltage. this is allways 0750V. than i read confidential pdf of CSD95372B and TPS53641 this is i2c controlled buck converter and this is controlled by pic12f1822 on every hash board. So this 0,750 Volt i measured is over voltage protection limit.
i am an electronic engineer by the way.

I ASK TO BITMAINTECH,
WHY OUR HASH BOARDS HASHING SOMETHING STANDALONE (or why warming up) AND WHY 3 HASH BOARDS VOLTAGE CONFIGURABLE BUT 1 IS NOT ?

thanks, any ideas ?
475  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: <<< SATILIK >>> Antminer S3A+ 290W @ 420 Gh/s <<< SATILIK >>> on: November 13, 2014, 04:21:54 AM
Kaçak elektrik hapisle cezalandırılıyor.Bilginize...

Aynen öyle, buradan arkadaşların mevcut kurallara riayet etmelerini temenni ediyorum,
aksi takdirde bu ve bu tarz girişimlerin Türkiye şartlarında düşünsel olarak her ne kadar kendilerini haklı görseler de yanlış bir tutum olacağı konusunda ve bu işin şakaya gelmediğini belirtmeden de geçemeyeceğim. Bu konudaki yapılan başlıca hataları sıralamak isterim:
- kendinize ait olmayan bir iş yerinde bu cihazları çalıştırmayın (datacenterlar hariç)
- elektriği kekolar kaçak kullanıyor bahanesiyle siz de bunu yapmayın
- kolaya kaçarsanız ürün geliştiremezsiniz kafa patlatamazsınız, çalar çırparsınız bununda kimseye bir faydası olmaz
  adamlar bunları solar panellerle, biodizelle, biogaz la çalıştırmaya çalışırken siz de kafa yorun, şayet yoramıyorsanız edilen kar bellidir buna tamah edin.
- birlik olmak her konuda esastır , bireysel çıkarlarla hiç bir ülke bir yere varamımıştır, şişkin faturalar için toplu başvuru yapılabilir, belirli lokasyonlarda yer kiralanıp elektrik ucuz alınabilir.

Saygılar.
476  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: SATILIK S4 MINER on: November 05, 2014, 03:22:21 AM
Smiley alemsin izmirli
477  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: SATILIK S4 MINER on: November 02, 2014, 03:28:07 AM
mailimi sms olarak attım yanıtınızı bekliyorum.
478  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: <<< SATILIK >>> Antminer S3A+ 290W @ 420 Gh/s <<< SATILIK >>> on: October 22, 2014, 11:56:25 PM
 Shocked Ahalinin elektriği taktığı yok anlaşılan... Roll Eyes
479  Local / Pazar Alanı / Re: SATILIK Antminer S3+ indirim kuponu 0.14BTC on: October 21, 2014, 11:02:16 PM
Smiley Bu kuponlar Antminer ları üreten Bitmaintech firması tarafından yüklü alım yapan alıcılara, diğer alımlarında indirim olsun amaçlı olarak sitelerinde  otomatik olarak ekledikleri kuponlardır. değerleri yapılan alımlara göre değişir ve bitmaintech e üye başka bir kullanıcıya aktarılabilir.
480  Local / Pazar Alanı / SATILIK Antminer S3 S4 C1 indirim kuponları S4 ALACAKLAR MUTLAKA OKUSUN ! on: October 21, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
2014-11-30 tarihine kadar geçerli bitmain firmasından;

1 tanesi 50$ değerinde, SATIŞ FİYATI 0.1 BTC
4 adet S3
4 adet C1 (kullanıldığında 300$ a gelir)

1 tanesi 400$ değerinde, SATIŞ FİYATI 0.7 BTC
12 Adet S4 (kullanıldığında 850$ a gelir)

KUPONU SATILIKTIR.
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